Lurker > andel

yeah...it just saddens me the emphasis has shifted from making quality games to making pretty games with online play. what happened to the epic, story driven rpg?

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it just seems to me that after the pinnacle, it is getting gradually worse with respect to rpgs in general. still alot of solid ones appearing, but I dont get the epic feel I do when playing the (self imagined) classics.

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16 bit era was ceetainly great, it just reached a pinnacle for me the next gen. while games like earthbound and ffVI are among my all time favorites, I feel that square (and def working designs) produced an onslaught of quality rpgs the likes of which we wont likely see again.

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bioshock and borderlands (not sure if borderlands really counts though)

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if you want innovation look at the star ocean 2 battle system/item creation system. it was way ahead of its time and I really havent found a comparable one to this day (including any other star ocean game).

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Saturn did have an amazing library of rpgs considering it was a flop...shame as it was a good console.

I have no problem with wrpgs, morrowind is in my top 20 all time for sure. I just dont think any 'generation' can stack up to that of ps1 as far as quality rpgs.

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sampras no question.

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I like a variety of different kinds of games, but jrpgs from that era are (at least from my perspective) the best. it was an era of many innovations in the genre, but there was alot of consistency as far as dialogue, character and story depth, replay value and overall enjoyability.

what generation would you say trumps psx era with regard to rpgs?

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with classics like ffVII, VIII, tactics, star ocean 2, suikoden II and a lot of others its hard to argue with psx generation rpgs. also, the best localizations (mostly from working designs) including the two Lunar masterpieces and the arc the lad trilogy put it head and shoulders above the competition.

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lunar bump...

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easily lunar sssc. best game ever. also, star ocean 2 is a must, as is lunar 2. but out of that list they are all really solid games. also try the arc the lad series...

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articuno-9.3/10. nothing wrong with any of these, good selection.

shadow ryoko-9.0/10. all solid selections, a little ps2 heavy but what can you do, cant really go wrong.

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murph-9.3/10. all solid choices and all games anyone should be proud to own.

todbot-9.1/10.-would have rated close to perfect as 4 of the 5 are all time greats...I just think the original ff is vastly overrated.

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ayuyu-8.4/10. solid choices, and morrowind is a solid 1 for sure, but I would consider everything below morrowind a notch lower.

metalslug-7.8-not a diablo fan...some good overall choices though. not bad

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leon-9.9/10. some of the greatest games ever...a list that rivals any (at least any absent lunar games)

pj-6.9/10. some solid choices, I just dont really think chrono cross and kh are top rpg material

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75. Lunar 2

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mgs3

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wow...first lemme say this is the best contest on the board leon. easily. helluva lotta work you put into it, helluva job. and I will be voting in the next to 25 with smb3 at 1 and lttp at 2...this is so much fun...

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pokemon r s e
final fantasy VIII
Mortal Kombat 2
Legend of zelda link to the past
suikoden II
Chrono Trigger
Final fantasy X
persona 3
xenogears
mother 3
ace combat 5
super mario bros 3

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lunar 2

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panthera-9.9. doesnt get much better, cant be perfect without Lunar tho...

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evilordex-9.7/10. dont know what live a live is, others are alltime greats

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psycho-9.2/10. def a stellar list with classics through and through. hurrah!

ryo-8.6/10. didnt really like deus ex, the rest are great!

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yep

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ffXII

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74 Lunar SSSC

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dragon quest 8

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suikoden III

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she would make a killer girlfriend...

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disgaea

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star ocean 2
disgaea
metal gear solid 2

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rby. easily

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mgs 2

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these were always fun...*signs up*

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dumbass jury...wow....how stupid can they be.

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It is actually cheaper to house an inmate for life than to excecute them. capital punishment is antiquated and barbaric, not something that should be implemented in modern america.

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the original ff is just not that great...most of the other ones I would have voted over paper mario...not ff though.

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a hung jury means some jurors are morons in this case...

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yep

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81 6randia II

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74 Lunar SSSC

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yes...they are great with ranch or just plain..

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I really enjoyed it...probably in my top 10 psx rpgs.

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I think LttP is easily the best LoZ game and the best non rpg ever...

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and far inferior to Lttp

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ness

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paper mario

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yeah, Andel is a 'bad guy' in Arc the Lad.

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honorable mentions include ff tactics, lunar 2, earthbound, morrowind, suikoden II and others.

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pac-man.

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