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Topic | So, why do some think Trainers are getting past Mario/Bowser? |
iGenesis 12/15/11 9:11:00 PM #7 |
From: Boomerang78 | #006 Because they're actual rivals? And Bowser isn't? He's the most frequently recurring villain of any gaming character, well, ever
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Topic | So, why do some think Trainers are getting past Mario/Bowser? |
iGenesis 12/15/11 9:05:00 PM #2 |
Because Pokemania is all over this site.
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Topic | Somebody banked on Link/Ganon vs. Alucard/Dracula, of all matches O_o |
iGenesis 12/15/11 9:02:00 PM #1 |
Now we have 59 perfects left (excluding that one alt.)
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Topic | Spread Betting RR - Mario/Bowser (-11) vs. Red/Blue |
iGenesis 12/15/11 8:19:00 PM #3 |
1.00 * Bankroll on Pokemon > 0.445
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Topic | Spread Betting RR - Cloud/Sephiroth (-45) vs. Squall/Seifer |
iGenesis 12/15/11 8:19:00 PM #15 |
1.00 * Bankroll on Cloud/Sephiroth > 0.725
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Topic | C/D if you don't already own a 3DS, you would get one for Pokemon... |
iGenesis 12/15/11 6:29:00 PM #5 |
Deny, unless it actually evolves the series in the magnitude of Mario Bros. 3, Mario 64, etc. (something I don't see the current Gamefreak exec team doing any time soon)
Sick and tired of playing the same old thing.
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Topic | Calling the 60 still-perfect battlers...PLEASE TAKE THIS SURVEY! |
iGenesis 12/15/11 1:58:00 AM #16 |
Also, I remember having a really lousy tiebreaker for Best Series Ever, yet I somehow won 9th place on a 55-way tie. Are ties broken by | TB - Actual |, where | | = absolute value?
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Topic | Calling the 60 still-perfect battlers...PLEASE TAKE THIS SURVEY! |
iGenesis 12/15/11 1:57:00 AM #14 |
From: -Tofa7- | #010 If you have a bad tiebreaker, take a gamble on Trainers > Mario or Cloud > Link. There may only be a 10% chance of either happening, but at least you took a shot. And if it does end up happening, you'll be golden since majority of the leaderboard would have ****ed up. In that case you'd just bank. Assuming that the B8 hivemind really is in full force (the number of perfects has been stuck at 61 for a while now), everyone will screw up together and you'll end up winning without having to gamble on whether it'll be a Pokemon upset or a Cloud upset. I really think the odds of either upset are incredibly slim, though; it'd require a big rally from external forces, yet public levels of enthusiasm for these contests have dropped dramatically from previous years. From: PartOfYourWorld | #012 All the prizes after third place are no big deal anyway. Indeed, the prizes do stink. Heck, if you live in California, most notaries charge the maximum legal limit of $10, so if you end up in #11-20th place you might as well not bother claiming the prize at all.
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Topic | Calling the 60 still-perfect battlers...PLEASE TAKE THIS SURVEY! |
iGenesis 12/14/11 10:31:00 PM #9 |
From: Azp2k32 | #008 You can already figure out like, half this stuff (at least, the stuff that matters) just by looking at the leaderboard and seeing who has what winner.... Only the bracket leaderboard has that information. Clearly, people make different picks for the battles than for the bracket. This explains why there are 60 perfects vs. 4 perfect brackets. If I were GranzonEx (#4 bracket #37 battle) I'd go for a Cloud or Pokemon upset on the battle contest, and win at least one contest no matter the outcome.
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Topic | Calling the 60 still-perfect battlers...PLEASE TAKE THIS SURVEY! |
iGenesis 12/14/11 10:10:00 PM #1 |
I understand that not everyone may want to share this information. The choice is entirely up to you. Let's face it: barring some freak upset, there is a very high chance the winners will be determined by tiebreaker, so at this point I don't see much harm in doing so. Current leaderboard position: # Entry Type: Tiebreaker: Pick #61: Pick #62: Pick #63: Spreadsheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al8wr56R4v2tdDQtMWJmeGpOVldOTVd6WkVYQkFnc1E&hl=en_US#gid=0My entry:Current leaderboard position: #50 Entry Type: Prize-eligible Tiebreaker: 98517 Pick #61: Mario/Bowser Pick #62: Link/Ganon Pick #63: Link/Ganon
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Topic | Rank each of these 8 scenarios from most to least likely. |
iGenesis 12/14/11 3:58:00 PM #8 |
My ranking:
Most likely (no upsets): 1. SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Link > Mario
I think the Cloud > Link upset is more likely than Mario > Pokemon: 2. SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Cloud > Mario
3. SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Link > Pokemon
Two upsets: 4. SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Cloud > Pokemon
Not happening (Pokemon & Mario just aren't at the same level as Link & Cloud) 5. SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Mario > Cloud 6. SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Pokemon > Cloud 7. SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Pokemon > Link 8. SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Mario > Link
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Topic | Rank each of these 8 scenarios from most to least likely. |
iGenesis 12/14/11 3:50:00 PM #1 |
SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Mario > Link SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Link > Mario
SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Mario > Cloud SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Cloud > Mario
SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Pokemon > Link SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Link > Pokemon
SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Pokemon > Cloud SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Cloud > Pokemon
Potential Upset
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Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1036 |
iGenesis 12/14/11 3:47:00 PM #200 |
Only 8 possible outcomes remain.
SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Mario > Link --> Not happening. SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Link > Mario
SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Mario > Cloud SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Cloud > Mario
SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Pokemon > Link --> Not happening. SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Link > Pokemon
SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Pokemon > Cloud --> Not happening. SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Cloud > Pokemon
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Topic | So uh the new pokemon game's been announced? |
iGenesis 12/14/11 11:52:00 AM #27 |
third version with 5 minutes of new content? battle rev/mystery dung/ranger rehash number infinity? OMG I'M SO STOKED!!!!
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Topic | About how many hours do I have left in Skyward Sword? |
iGenesis 12/14/11 11:50:00 AM #6 |
From: GranzonEx | #004 If you take your time, about 5-10. more like 1-2, but depends on your pace. My first playthrough ended at 33h without Sheikah Stones.
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Topic | About how many hours do I have left in Skyward Sword? |
iGenesis 12/14/11 11:47:00 AM #2 |
It's not a temple. It's called the Sky Keep, last I checked.
Anyway, finish up the dungeon, fight a succession of bosses then you're done.
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Topic | ITT The reason Pokemon has been a formulaic rehash franchise for the last decade |
iGenesis 12/14/11 1:38:00 AM #27 |
From: The Real Truth | #026 Pokemon has a ton it could change to make it more interesting than it is, but there's seriously no reason to. for the last f***ing time, it's not just about sales and making money.
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Topic | ITT The reason Pokemon has been a formulaic rehash franchise for the last decade |
iGenesis 12/14/11 12:26:00 AM #21 |
From: Kenri | #020 Like, Nintendo did an actual survey of the people who bought HGSS and determined it was generally not a game purchased by those in the age range you're suggesting. LOL, HGSS that's marketed at the GS nostalgia crowd.
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Topic | ITT The reason Pokemon has been a formulaic rehash franchise for the last decade |
iGenesis 12/13/11 11:48:00 PM #18 |
From: MarvelousGerbil | #016 Except the series has evolved... a lot. If you compare even FR/LG to R/B they're extremely different games in ways other than just graphics, fixing the plethora of bugs from R/B, and adding new Pokemon. I believe someone a while ago started a topic where he went over every new aspect of pokemon since the RBY days. I don't think it got very far off the ground, but there were a ton of changes. If you don't see a huge number of changes in the past 15 years, you haven't been playing the games. It's front heavy. D/P and B/W's changes are minuscule compared to the leaps G/S and to a lesser extent, R/S did. Gamefreak's execs are getting lazier and lazier because they know the games still sell. From: Team Rocket Elite | #017 I'm saying DON'T shake up the series. Leave the mainline game alone for the people like me who like the rehashes. Whether you like it or not, there's millions of people who like them. If you have some great new idea go make a new series. No. Rehash lovers like you definitely make up the minority of pokemon's fanbase. this is why the pokemon fanbase is ever shifting (except the nostalgia fanboys from RBY's days) and new kids constantly replace the 11-14 year-olds who start outgrowing the franchise.
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Topic | ITT The reason Pokemon has been a formulaic rehash franchise for the last decade |
iGenesis 12/13/11 10:55:00 PM #15 |
From: Team Rocket Elite | #007 Sequels for those who want more of the same with minor tweaks. New games for those who want something different. What's wrong with that? Wouldn't you prefer new works to have new characters rather than forcing older ones into it? They're not even "minor" tweaks...just nonexistent. The ability to evolve and balance innovation vs. familiarity is what separates Pokemon from Tier 1 franchises such as Mario, Zelda, Metroid, ... You can't be serious when you claim that the only way to shake up the Pokemon formula is through a spinoff.
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Topic | ITT The reason Pokemon has been a formulaic rehash franchise for the last decade |
iGenesis 12/13/11 10:01:00 PM #4 |
From: MarvelousGerbil | #003 TBQH, wouldn't games like Mystery Dungeon and Rumble be considered "something new" for the series? <_< No, just as Mario Sports Mix wouldn't be considered something new for the Mario series.
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Topic | ITT The reason Pokemon has been a formulaic rehash franchise for the last decade |
iGenesis 12/13/11 9:52:00 PM #1 |
Official Nintendo Magazine interview with Junichi Masuda (director):
ONM: Pokémon is now over 15 years old. In that time have you ever considered reinventing the series or do you think fans like the fact that it's familiar?
Junichi Masuda: If we thought totally reinventing the series would be attractive enough, we would definitely try. But, if we want to simply try something new, then, I just add those ideas to a new series. (laugh)
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Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1036 |
iGenesis 12/13/11 9:37:00 PM #80 |
From: LeonhartFour | #073 And yet R/B/Y never managed more than 36-37% on OoT at any one time. Because more people have rosy nostalgia for OOT than Pokemon G1.
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Topic | Do Link/Ganondorf have any chance of beating Cloud/Sephiroth? |
iGenesis 12/13/11 9:33:00 PM #6 |
Also, Skyward Sword just came out. That's sure to boost Link's popularity yet again, the mute hero who has no more personality than a Pong paddle.
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Topic | Do Link/Ganondorf have any chance of beating Cloud/Sephiroth? |
iGenesis 12/13/11 9:30:00 PM #2 |
FF7 is no longer relevant in modern gaming.
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Topic | Spread Betting RR - Red/Blue (-20) vs. Samus Aran/Ridley |
iGenesis 12/13/11 8:38:00 PM #16 |
30% of my bankroll on Samus/Ridley > 40%.
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Topic | Grenade-wielding Belgian man shoots up Christmas Market |
iGenesis 12/13/11 6:30:00 PM #3 | |
Topic | Idea: Why not let GF users pick the GOTY for each year...in a contest tournament |
iGenesis 12/13/11 5:25:00 PM #11 |
From: KingButz | #005 There already is a set of polls for this. yes, but it's not a full tournament. From: GuessMyUserName | #008 not enough good games in a year it doesn't matter. there aren't enough household-name characters for 64-man tournaments, either. in fact, it'd be fun to predict the winner amongst two obscure games just because it's not predictable and there are no x-stats to help.
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Topic | Idea: Why not let GF users pick the GOTY for each year...in a contest tournament |
iGenesis 12/13/11 5:06:00 PM #3 |
From: X_Dante_X | #002 I have a feeling it'd have to be for no prize because I doubt allen could get sponsorship for it. why wouldn't he?
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Topic | Idea: Why not let GF users pick the GOTY for each year...in a contest tournament |
iGenesis 12/13/11 5:04:00 PM #1 |
So instead seeing the same characters win every year, we can have an interesting contest that's not easily predictable: the GOTY selection ensures that no game is ever entered twice into a bracket tournament.
It'd be fairly trivial to come up with a shortlist of ~10 potential GOTY candidates (Arkham City, Portal 2, Skyrim, Skyward Sword, ME2, LBP2, GOW3, MW3, etc.); however, it's not clear which of these would win in a 1:1 polling format. And if we were to expand the list to include Tier 2 and Tier 3 games (for example Sonic Generations vs. RAGE), it'd be hard to submit a perfect bracket.
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Topic | Future Zelda games will retain motion controls. |
iGenesis 12/13/11 2:00:00 AM #49 |
From: The_Djoker | #047 Ss has more filler and padding than all other zeldas combined OOT has the least substance of any 3D Zelda game. It's just a dungeon grind with no inter-dungeon content. I can put a slant on any opinion to make a point, too.
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Topic | [Bet 171100 points on Samus v. Ridley] [Bet 171100 points on Red v. Blue] [Bank] |
iGenesis 12/13/11 1:59:00 AM #13 |
From: LordoftheMorons | #012 Mario/Bowser>Link/Ganondorf at like 15%? what are you talking about?
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Topic | [Bet 171100 points on Samus v. Ridley] [Bet 171100 points on Red v. Blue] [Bank] |
iGenesis 12/13/11 1:40:00 AM #9 |
Choosing Red/Blue is a no-brainer decision for me, but not for the same reasons. Unlike you guys, I actually don't think PKMN Trainers > Samus/Ridley is a foregone conclusion. However, being fortunate enough to be among the 7 users who are on both bracket & battle leaderboards, I can afford to hedge my bets on the final "debatable" match of the contest*. I already have Samus v. Ridley in my bracket, and I know they're not the current favourites. So I go for Red/Blue in my battle entry to maximise my overall chances of winning. Whatever the outcome tomorrow, I'll be staying on the leaderboard for one of the two contests. All that's left is the hope that no surprises come up in the last 5 battles...especially the last 3. *based on B8 board odds project (BOP)
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Topic | [Bet 171100 points on Samus v. Ridley] [Bet 171100 points on Red v. Blue] [Bank] |
iGenesis 12/12/11 9:30:00 PM #1 |
My Bracket Entry: My Current Position: # 47 My Current Score: 92 / 96 (100 / 104 with Mario victory tonight) My Next Pick: Samus vs. Ridley My Last 5 Picks: Link, Cloud, Mario, Link, Link
My Battle Entry: My Current Position: # 50 My Current Score: 1596 / 1596 (1653 / 1653 with Mario victory tonight)
Possible actions: [Bet 171100 points on Samus vs. Ridley] [Bet 171100 points on PKMN Trainer Red vs. PKMN Trainer Blue] [Bank]
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Topic | All 61 battle perfects had Squall vs. Seifer last night. |
iGenesis 12/12/11 9:02:00 PM #1 |
Just wow.
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Topic | Spread Betting RR - Mario/Bowser (-34) vs. Mega Man X/Zero |
iGenesis 12/12/11 8:58:00 PM #14 |
5% on Mario/Bowser
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Topic | What did everyone get for Final Grades? |
iGenesis 12/12/11 8:15:00 PM #8 |
Not a student.
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Topic | I'm glad SBAllen got rid of the LusterBoard from last year |
iGenesis 12/12/11 2:15:00 AM #1 |
I had 66600 pts at Golden Sun vs. GTA3. I went for GTA, lost a multi-week streak, and dropped back down to 20k or so pts.
The lowest score needed to win a prize was 73100 pts at the end of the contest. There were over 40 matches after GS vs. GTA. If I had banked, I would DEFINITELY have won a prize in that contest.
But the LusterBoard misled me; I mistakenly thought the competition was a lot stronger than the reality (which was the leaderboard being occupied by 200 prize-ineligible alts.) or I would have banked and played it the safe route.
Now all alts are grouped under a single entry on the leaderboard, although the score/count distribution is still screwed up (it still says there are 171 perfect brackets with 92 pts each, as opposed to 6.)
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Topic | How did Board 8 mess this one up so badly? |
iGenesis 12/11/11 9:30:00 PM #9 |
From: Paratroopa1 | #006 iGenesis | Posted 12/11/2011 9:22:41 PM | message detail | quote If Sora/Riku do end up winning this one, this would be the highest-percentage B8 consensus to miss, right?
Not even close. which was the highest?
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Topic | How did Board 8 mess this one up so badly? |
iGenesis 12/11/11 9:22:00 PM #1 |
From Matchup Stats: http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.phpMatch #56 (R4) [Who Picked Whom] Squall/Seifer - 186 (84.55%) Sora/Riku - 23 (10.45%) Dante/Vergil - 6 (2.73%) B.J./Hitler - 5 (2.27%) And these were based on the beginning of the contest (that's why eliminated contestants Dante/Vergil and BJ/Hitler have nonzero percentages) If Sora/Riku do end up winning this one, this would be the highest-percentage B8 consensus to miss, right? Last night, going off of those numbers, I didn't even think this match would be a potential bracket-killer, or I would have banked.
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Topic | Spread Betting RR - Squall/Seifer (-14) vs. Sora/Riku |
iGenesis 12/11/11 8:55:00 PM #18 |
0.2 on Sora/Riku > 43%
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Topic | This is not the "most predictable contest." |
iGenesis 12/11/11 12:06:00 PM #9 |
From: LeonhartFour | #008 We could have 139 perfect brackets at the end of this contest, man! har har I only count the prize-eligible entrants. Nothing's technically stopping you from making 2^31 accounts or however many are needed to exhaustively brute-force every possible combination.
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Topic | The Cloud/Sephiroth Hype Train Topic |
iGenesis 12/11/11 12:05:00 PM #10 |
Skyward Sword just came out. Cloud hasn't made a major appearance since FF7. This is why FF7's popularity has been on the decline relative to OOT/LOZ series/Link.
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Topic | This is not the "most predictable contest." |
iGenesis 12/11/11 12:03:00 PM #7 |
Doesn't look like there will be a perfect.
1 KingLionel 88 Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 2 0E (13 alt entries) 88 Link vs. Ganondorf 3 Staraptor (17 alt entries) 88 Link vs. Ganondorf 4 legendmusketeer (138 alt entries) 88 Link vs. Ganondorf 5 GranzonEx 88 Link vs. Ganondorf 6 Sentsuizan 88 Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue
There is 1 legitimate entry with Link (no alts), 1 with Cloud, and 1 with PKMN Trainer Red/Blue.
The one legitimate Link entry, GranzonEx, has Pokemon Trainers beating Mario.
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Topic | "When is it safe to bank if your goal is to win a prize?" |
iGenesis 12/10/11 11:16:00 AM #1 |
From previous years' contests: 8th-prize 13th-leaderboard 8th-prize 14th-leaderboard
10 16
10 14
10 15
10 23
10 23
This year, there are more prizes (20) than ever before. So, extrapolating from previous years' prize eligibility ratios, it looks like if you can finish in the top 30 on the leaderboard, you'll most likely get a prize.
Therefore, if your goal is to win something (not necessarily get 1st place), you can bank when you're #25-30 (not tied). The big question is whether the leaderboard will be trimmed down to that size by the end of this contest, which doesn't look very likely at this point, but you never know.
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Topic | The scoring system for the bracket needs to be changed |
iGenesis 12/10/11 11:07:00 AM #4 |
From: SuperAngelo128 | #003 alternatively you could just predict everything 100% correctly and not have to complain about this trollface.png
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Topic | The scoring system for the bracket needs to be changed |
iGenesis 12/10/11 11:01:00 AM #1 |
The current system puts a disproportionate weight on the later rounds, so that someone may get all the initial rounds perfect but mess up on a late pick and finish terribly.
Instead of this Round 1 = 1pt. Round 2 = 2pt. Round 3 = 4pt. Round 4 = 8pt. ... Round X = 2^(X-1)pt.
I think we should have this: Round 1 = 1pt. Round 2 = 2pt. Round 3 = 3pt. Round 4 = 4pt. ... Round X = Xpt.
The battle contest partially solves this problem but requires long streaks of consecutively correct predictions.
If entrant A had a perfect bracket except the final pick and a Round 1 pick, he'd lose the bracket contest and the battle contest (the wrong R1 pick would end the streak)...so this scoring system isn't a good reflection of an entry's quality.
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