Lurker > Corrik7

That's why the miller claims DAY 1.

Lopen posted...

Yes

And a miller existing on TOP of that is unneeded

If you have a scum with a town and the room becomes scan that town is effectively miller

It's literally just 1 step further with a Miller.

So if scum pair together you red check. You kill a scum. The other can be like you alrdy got the red check! If you scan the miller's room, oops I was miller so that explains it. If you green check a room, the godfather is like hehehe I was scum there. It makes scanning a narrowing but also a possible deceiver.

Chaeix posted...

if cop is restricted to room partners then they also have a mechanical limitation

It's not. It's choose a room.

20% no extra kills. Like scum has to have their advantages somewhere. They have it with 2 scum early mylo and the scanning helping them and not fully checking them.

Lopen posted...

YES.

That's why the miller is excessive

Scum is 20% dude.

Lopen posted...

WHY.

Red check miller on scans that already are ambiguous makes no sense

I thought that's what you were claiming for

Red check Miller can clear the SCUM if paired with them. It's actually a very big town detriment role.

Chaeix posted...

wait is isquen actually cop

He basically said he was and he is pissed I said he was incompetent in the role.

Lopen posted...

Isquen being cop does not clear Lea

Lea is still scum

Nah it clears her if a real cop exists.

Claim your results isquen before this becomes a real shitshow. You messed up not claiming.

Isquen posted...

Maybe you should've fucked around to find out.

Sigh you threw this game. Guess we gotta find scum the old fashioned way now guys.

Inb4 isquen is incompetent cop.

So unless we are going with incompetent cop right now, there is no cop. They work perfectly fine in tandem with an actual cop.

Lopen posted...

If you scan a role with scum result in it you have to figure out whether it's one scum, which one it is, or two scum

Miller and GF are not needed at all.

GF would green check. Miller would red check and potentially let the scum skate as the Miller was the red check.

Kirby321 posted...

You're right. I'm rescinding my faith in you

You mean your faith in you.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Back up to a role you say isn't real what?

Hardly the first game to have a backup to a role that didn't exist. Have had it with a nurse before off the top of my head.

Kirby321 posted...

Oh you're convinced there's no cop because nobody claimed cop when you asked them to.

I mean, it would be a pretty trollsome foil to Vanilla Cop if a cop didn't actually exist, but that feels kinda... unethical? There's better flavors of French Vanilla than "back-up but the role they're backing up doesn't actually exist"

Plus, now that I think about it, room-wide Cop seems kinda busted. You clear two town or have better odds of nailing scum with a more limited selection to choose from. So having a backup, even as a 1-shot, seems kinda strong.

Hmm... I'm not sure I'm sold, Corrik. At the very least your reason for claiming doesn't actually incriminate anyone, so I'm rather baffled why you thought this was a good idea

You mean why you thought it was a good idea.

And the cop doesn't exist. I'm waiting for a backup that will never come.

Kirby321 posted...

... I'm lost.

Vanilla Cop was a scum role. So why couldn't regular town Cop exist...?

I'm the backup to it. I know what the cop has.

Obviously my role day 1 would have been to lay low until the cop died. However, it is very apparent a cop doesn't actually exist.

So ulti and Lea look naughty.

I am Sansa Stark, Town Deputy.

I said backup day 1 multiple times.

If the Cop is killed, I get a 1 shot Cop scan of a room that says if both in the room or innocent or at least one is not.

With the Vanilla cop flip, and knowing that the cop had a 1 shot room scan as well. There is no scenario where I can imagine beyond incompetency that the cop wouldn't have claimed today. And they should have got shot. And let me get the second scan off for town.

However, there is no cop. Hence no godfather. And since I am already the misdirection role to scum vanilla cop by being a renamed vanilla, there is thus no Miller as well.

Either way, if I am wrong. You still know I am town. Take it as you will.

Okee dokee

Kirby321 posted...

If you have to ask unprompted, you likely have a good reason to. I don't care, really, but my impression of these past few posts of yours is that town Corrik has finally come online. So sure, go for it

This could be a disastrous choice. Are you willing to accept the responsibility if so?

Apparently Kirby has died. What a shame. I'll be gone for the rest of the day at 5pm too.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I mean, she claimed it only to Lopen believing he would keep it a secret.

She isn't that dumb.

JC is invested like the final puzzle piece might be coming. FD is waryingly skeptical but willing to listen.

Both town.

And probably FD

Lopen posted...

Ok here's an interesting idea

What if LEA and JC didn't want to look suspicious paired up and that's what the Peaf insanity was for and implicating Dumey was the payoff.

I still think that's a bit weird. Lea leading me down the Dumey path does kinda make that make more sense though.

JC is town, bud.

So when she thought she would be scanned, she didn't claim it prior. But when she thought she wouldn't be scanned she claimed it for literally no reason at all.

Mmmhmmm.

But now that she thinks she is safe from the scan supposedly by the end of the day, she thinks she should claim it.

Playing lazily and crappy so guaranteed to be scanned scum so didn't claim it. Yeah. Thanks.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

He already DID that.

Am I the only one who reads every post of the game?

Probably

Lopen why don't you paste her claim and surrounding context.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

During her date with Lopen, to Lopen N1

Mmmhmmmm

When did lea claim jc. Like specifically when. Not just not first post. But when.

I claim for all the world to see or for no one.

EDumey posted...

My assumption here is that Corrik has a role that affects an entire room, and with his role plus the two flipped roles that interact with rooms, that explains why he's so insistent on the setup being the way that it is.

I don't even really think we need to have Corrik claim specific details. But my question to Corrik is what percentage of certainty are you that Ulti slipped with the Miller/Godfather thing? And what percentage chance is there of Lea being a Miller?

Leas silence should tell you all you need to know. She knows she is cooked.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

You said you're like a Mayor so self confirming right?

Nah but if I claim you will all know I am town immediately.

@Kirby321 do you even mafia bro?

Enchantress posted...

Lea cannot die, only the actresses who play her

Good night, sweet princess.

Or danger or whatever

Lea is in trouble. Where is the Simpsons I'm in trouble meme

Waiting on Kirby

Enchantress posted...

Mhm

Bad choice.

Lea you sticking to your Miller claim?

Actually nevermind Kirby is town. Kirby you answer instead.

Let's see. JC should I claim? Yes or no and why.

That's lame reasoning. Who else wants me to ask it to them instead that can give good game reasoning why to or not

Lopen posted...

Why

Yes or no with reasoning.

Lopen should I claim?