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Lopen posted...

You shot town that your own logic towncleared

I didn't need to worry about my logic. It was based on who was still alive and clearing out their poe.

Lopen posted...

Also you shot town

Great town reads

Didn't read him town, needed to clear out towns lynch subject.

I even said it when i killed him that it was to help town based on who they wanted to lynch. I wasn't trying to make a hero play i was making a safe play based on everyone's inclination that i asked for since i knew i could not say another word in the game.

Lopen posted...

Good doc save is all I'll give you

But Lea is a common doc save so the extent of your game prowess displayed is "drew doc" more or less

I played it under the radar perfectly i thought. Scum didnt know i was doc til it was revealed and i kept them trapped from freekilling.

Not sure what you think was bad but that wasn't it.

Bad town reads on the other hand can be incredibly detrimental.

And I was going to leave the game alone but you decided to take a shot where the facts dont line up with reality so.

And i remember reading back your old posts where they were mostly wrong.

Whereas all of my early town reads were gold.

So yeah I'd eat you on that game any day tbh.

Lopen posted...

You on the other hand were fairly worthless so yeah I could see why you would want to take shots at me for it.

Had a good doc save, scum was lynched handily and i left with town set up to win. I'd say it was a pretty good game.

Lopen posted...

Like you know peaf having a mental breakdown doesn't make sense

But you want me to be wrong so you can preserve the delusion you have that I'm a terrible player. It would wound you so bad for me to sweep this game.

What are you even on about. You are a good emotional player and a poor but boisterous logical player.

Overall you are fine but i would stand by this assessment any day.

Lopen was revisionist historying and trying to backseat a game town stomped to make up for his mafia insecurities.

Lopen posted...

It's why Ulti nearly got away last game. People are like "well Ulti has done this before" and just hand wave away something that doesn't make sense.

Ulti had a scan protecting him. So not sure where you are getting this argument.

Like if I'm scum and in a position with JC and Dumey in towns sightlines I'm probably feeling pretty good.

I wanted to quote in the hubris part but mobile fun times.

I think he had confidence in town wanting to kill the others on the table and it just snuck up on him.

The second part, that is.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Unless there was another scum vulnerable it was an entirely unforced error

Exactly.

I feel like Peaf got trapped a bit unexpectedly but this is mostly just conjecture.

And if you all our curious on my actions.

Day 1 i figured like 90% of scum would not be ballsy enough to take or fuck with my all inclusive offer.

Unfortunately ulti is in the 10% but its fine.

Day 2 we have 2 scum so honestly i dont necessarily give a shit if scum pairs with me because that leaves the other vulnerable.

SirChris posted...

Because we can solve together and own the scum

I would actually propose you date me over Sultan.

I dont know that I like him in our townpile and I think us pairing up would be fun.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I have reasons, chief among them is that I don't feel like dating you.

But we'd have a whole night to put our heads together and solve the game.

My trust in you has definitely decreased here though. You don't have great town equity for holding my date here.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

You didn't need to do that, your prior dates requests are still active.

The rules on that are admittedly slightly confusing.

Or you arescum but whatever.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Anyways i'm gonna take the lull in pairing to put red back into the pool where he belongs.

Belongs because?

You doing this with no scum equity to my name is laughably bad play.

Chaeix posted...

i think someone should break up with their partner and spice things up, i feel like it's not one of me peaf or kirby

This is a weird choice of wording.

I think kirby is town though.

Kirby321 posted...

Red and Ulti is still a stinker to me. I'd rather that Red be one of the unpaired ones here.

Because scum red definitely has a history of showing up to make attention grabbing posts day 1, right?

Kirby321 posted...

Red, please convince us why we shouldn't leave you to die on D2

Because I'm an asset and everyone knows i play the rules to maximize advantage.

I recall something from Dumey pinging as town to me last night but I was also drifting off to sleep in bed on my phone.

Im glad we didn't lynch Lea.

PunishedBen posted...

And then if Death's extra kills are all just modifiers, then did scum really not have an extra kill?

The poison specifies being an extra kill.

UltimaterializerX posted...

That said, I highly doubt scum has Corrik plus a day scanner meant to dance with MZero

We have scanner, rb equivalent, and all the killing you could want.

The last is almost certainly a scanner foil of some variety.

Leafeon13N posted...

Also conspiracy business, but ulti could always be godfather ninja or something.

To be clear, this could apply to just about anyone.

Also conspiracy business, but ulti could always be godfather ninja or something.

We dont have any unaccounted for scum roles.

But also flavor cop.

I expect the last scum to be something passive like that though.

PunishedBen posted...

I'm looking back at Death's claim and personally I dont see anything that makes FD and Death look assuredly un-aligned.

But that can wait for analyzing after Death flips, because regardless if there is only one scum in the pool of Sbell, Death, and FD, it is far and away Death who I choose.

It would take scum theater around double vanilla claims for both to be scum.

Chaeix posted...

does red not being vig make chang more or less likely to be perma-BP

I'm still vigi.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Is that your way of saying "no FD, there was no good reason not to tell you either then or now" then you did a bad job expressing yourself. But just the same I accept your apology.

I dont give information unless i feel there is something to be gained from it.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Please tell me how saying "no i'm not on the list" reveals you to be specifically a doctor, I'll wait. If your answer was "yes" and there was a doctor on the list you might have a point that you were limiting your flavor range to a smallish list that included a presumed doctor. But a "no" answer gives you nearly unlimited flavors to potentially be still.

Thats great i wasn't about to shoehorn myself into anything and there was never a point this would be relevant or useful info.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

If we're willing to assume that Bart is in the game then there is a good chance that one of the "No" responses is actually Bart who distanced themselves from the list by choosing a safelist claim NOT from the list, for example.

No, actually this doesn't really follow.

Also probably not relevant, but Lea, Lea, Mzero.

Just in case.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Because your answer was "no, my flavor is not from the last game" then all you are doing is removing 16 possible characters from a pool of HUNDREDS. Less than that actually because we had a handful of yesses so you'd only be removing the 10 or so possible flavors from that list that weren't already in use.

It literally would have cost you nothing to say no unless you were planning on fake claiming one of those 10 flavors.

I was doctor. I was hiding behind the other half of my role. My guess is maybe this worked except scum was sitting on a strongman.

Leafeon13N posted...

I flavor meta when i think it is relevant.

I dont flavor meta when the board is blank.

To be more clear. I meta when we have a clear picture of what we are looking for based on known information.

I will not make blind conjecture.

Like, we know scum is homer, bart.

We know scum has strongman, janitor.

This isn't just flavor metaing. This is simply playing with pieces on the board.

Enchantress posted...

I think Red is an imposter. Not a member of the mafia team. But claiming power D1? Flavour meta-ing?!?! After his start to the game saying people who do flavour need to re easses how they play mafia?

...you know, I don't hate it

I flavor meta when i think it is relevant.

I dont flavor meta when the board is blank.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

YOU kept me from moving on by withholding information that we could all agree was harmless/pointless.

I was not about to limit the pool of characters out there.

You kept yourself from moving on when every bit of info on the board said my claim unlikely fit town.

Like we have Strongman and Janitor as unaccounted scum roles.

Strongman fits homer.

Neither fits Bart.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Scans *are* still important and my assumption at this point is that he's NOT gf

Why?

Forceful_Dragon posted...

multiple times looking for different ways to interpret things or find clues made by either the people i'm suspicious

Yes, such grand interpretations like "why are names suddenly not alphabetical" or a billion pages of pointless fixation on prior flavor splits.

But we have a breakdown where flavor is relevant and suddenly no one wants to talk about it.

Like, logically, why are we so focused on normal godfather? Regular, both, none, all are possible. There is no "has to be".

Ben basically skating by the whole day on the scan doesn't give me much confidence in him either.

If i had to guess,one of sbell/ben, one of death/fd.

What effort. You say it, we read back, you have no solve at all.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Just based on what others have said about a godfather needing to be resistant to both types of town scans.

Who even said that. They dont even need the role of godfather

Town seems to think scum would not have been informed of the vanilla format and that has always been false thinking.