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Is blade 3p and will die to the shot actually?thats kind of the one thing that makes any sense here

he no longer has to be doctor anymore now that we know IGCD didnt get shot and saved

also like why has blade never suggest FD scum in the past two days its super weird

Anyone reasonable would look at that flip and read me town btw

Im gonna look scummy as hell saying this but hey this just gives me even more flexibility to play scum in the future once this game ends so fuck it:

i seriously question anyone who can look at the evil Jeff flip and still come at me lmao. how am i scum if not evil Jeff

especially since we have confirmation that while scum team could view Lopens role they couldnt steal and use it

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im at a loss what happened on the night IGCD was saved, or whatever it was.

feels like an intentional no kill in hopes that ctes bet on IGCD dying / to frame whoever Kirby RBd.

at that point i guess both scum players must have been widely townread with little risk of Kirby blocking them

Oh Im stupid Ben could have blocked kills

4 nights with no kills and just a single stroke of coincidence, huh.

scum godfather lawyer? lmfao. embarrassing that you're town saying all this tbqh.

i'll leave it at that and see myself off to bed

also, obligatory please scan me i'm not trying to get mislynched tomorrow for no reason

i find it extremely difficult to believe that in 7 total nights scum has a bus driver they are allowed to use to redirect kills through protection and they have failed to kill someone no less than 4 times.

if the scum redirect/bus isn't part of a Jack role it certainly cannot be used in conjunction with kills onto the same target. There's simply no way scum has an every night redirect or bus and isn't using it to send kills through protection if they are capable of doing so

been mulling over things in my head. is it possible IGCD is scum but his daykill is not in fact an 'extra' kill?

like, it's predicated on intentionally locking in 'No Kill' the night before?

I got the cannister again yeah

sorry Ive been very inactive these past few days i have had insane things happening IRL though i should have some more time this weekend to actually play the game.

i need to revisit the night where we presume IGCD was shot at. Thats the same time Kirby had RBd death, right?

Isnt survivor generally not used here btw

Scan me tonight please Im not trying to get mislynched for absolutely no reason

lets just say i'd be surprised if the game were completely solved today

like, multiple parts of that post do not make sense together

UltimaterializerX posted...

I finally got a damn guilty scan.

And now that I know I can trust Ben completely (more on that later), I need a favor from him before revealing. Can you check with the host and see if you're allowed to upload all your chats in full to like, a google doc or something? Copy-pasting in topic would be obnoxious.

I can't possibly follow the logic here (assuming there is any) but let's see what Ulti has to say

hello all i see ctes is at -1 now

i have been far busier these past two days than i had hoped, both personally and at work and frankly will not have the time to be much more present than this until Friday.

i have spent some time reckoning with the existence of 'vanisher' given that we've murdered almost every vanilla now.

this role must either:

Be MI

Be faking power (ulti, technically blade though highly unlikely at this stage)

or have a second 'confirmable' power (ctes, ben, fd, igcd though fairly unlikely, kirby though highly unlikely,)

there's definitely a part of me that wants to continuing bashing our heads into the wall and assume that at least one scum must have claimed vanilla, but on the other hand, maybe we murdered the ones that were meant to claim vanilla, and we're left with the ones that are 'confirmable'.

Or maybe there's currently only 1 alive scum player and they kidnapped their own teammate Lopen. In which case we would all do well to remember Red's advice and murder Lopen if he EVER comes back.

Sufficed to say, I don't think Ctes is a bad shot by any means, and frankly I can totally see the Ulti - ctes angle MI is proposing. Something just makes me feel like it's Ben though idk. I didn't like that he was trying to use n1 with me as a defense for himself earlier and neighborizer feels like a weird fit if he isn't keeping any additional secrets about what the role does. unlike everybody else I actually liked the claim better when it had a weird BP or other thing to it

##Vote: Ben

PunishedBen posted...

Yo wait a minute.

Shameless defense of myself here. But if you believe Chang is town, you pretty much have to believe I am town. Chang told me about his role on night 1, which not only could take control of the lynch, but leaves him basically confirmed town. Why would scum not want to take Chang out night 1 if I had that information? No way he was getting doctor saved, because no one else knew about his role.

Yes, I did tell Ben my entire day 2 plan in our night chat.

But Ben, you should know this post isn't a good defense of yourself. For multiple reasons

1. There was no kill on day 1. We still don't technically know if it was stopped by a rb or a doc save but it seems likely to be the RB at this stage. Unless you're TMIng here and suggesting I wasn't the target / it was the doc save... But you can't even say with certainty that I wasn't the target, however unlikely that may have been after my day 1.
2. (in the scenario where you are scum) Killing me on night 1 after multiple people expressed interest in lynching me immediately on day 2 and the scum (night) role scanner dead on day 1 would surely leave people scratching their heads. I don't think it's likely you would ever be able to use your neighborizer action afterwards for fear of someone catching on that I told you my role and that's why I got killed
3. Much like you had me recite a random poem and I did it for funsies, I was pretty confident that even as scum you wouldn't kill me and you'd let me make my video and have my fun for the purpose of entertaining the game. Just based on our personalities. Plus like, you could have the opportunity to influence my views and try and turn it into a mislynch. It's not as though it's a must-kill role. Scum appeared to be doc / scanner hunting the first few nights anyway

Ulti: there is no godfather

also ulti: blade assimilated lopens role and became a godfather

I just finished my lunch and am back to being slammed at work with back to back meetings most of the afternoon. Ill digest this flip over the afternoon and see what i come up with by tonight.

initial thought is probably that Ben is flying more under the radar than wed want him to

You win some you lose some



sorry death lmao

is that a stop?

htaeD posted...

Still want a future apology

No offense, Todd

I hate gifs man

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b56978b7.png

Trust yourself IGCD and believe in the heart of the cards

Meow1000 posted...

How would you know Ctes can't be redirected?

he told us!

How many times do we have to go through this

Meow1000 posted...

Trying to plan something like that after we just saw a scum redirect was asinine anyway.

NOTHiNG I SUGGESTED COULD BE REDIRECTED good god man

And ctes may be a viable mislynch later instead of taking him out of the pool on a day when the math is fine

Because ctes was never going to follow that plan lmao

Therefore a cheeky shot on IGCD = zero town vigs

frankly scum should have expected ctes to make the cowards play

Im having an insane day at work and wont be very available but the argument to clear ben and ctes because they discussed IGCD being protected is garbage

ctes is 99% cleared if death flips is correct (supposing death is godfather)

ben is not cleared. You dont think scum discussed whether IGCD would be protected?

Also realizing ctes didnt lose his vote after the redirection power two nights ago hmm

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hey Chang.

Who said 2 scum left first in neighbor chat? You or Ben?

Ctes was in the chat with Ben last night, i havent been in it since night 1

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Look at me and my boomer reflexes taking 17 seconds longer than you -_-

Im on mobile!!

i went and checked, ctes unvoted before Lopen vanished day 1 and then never voted again

Ben, did you suggest ctes go for the double vote option or did he suggest it himself?

Yknow thinking about it now ctes makes sense as the redirect / bus driver too

the one night he didnt lose his own vote there was a redirection / bus drive.

maybe he withholds his own votes and then can spend them on specific powers.

or maybe its even the opposite to make it stronger. E.g. he vanished Lopen and it cost him his vote for the next 3 days

WAIT HOLY SHIT DIDNT HE NOT HAVE A VOTE DOWN ON DAY 1

##Vote: Death

Should have lynched him yesterday but i suppose IGCD shooting him today is acceptable

ctesjbuvf posted...

Could you guys be a little more happy I didn't die. The proposed plan would have killed me with no benefit.

the benefit was removing you from the mislynch pool! Something that didnt occur!

I did in fact receive it, no special text for getting a second one or anything.

just wanted to check for redirection

FD, who did you send the cannister to?

Ctes didnt bet his life i see

well IGCD can swap if he wants

it's fixed

Red'S VOTE ISNT SHOWING UP

guys is red's vote stolen