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creativerealms posted...

She drank the TERF cool aid

^

Ya gotta love it

Hopefully this 2009 account with ~700 karma will be banned before too long if they keep it up with shitposting their bigotry

Dr Pepper > Pepsi >>>>>

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coke

GranAures posted...

Yeah, the cynic inside me isn't expecting much but it seems pressure is at least making them offer Nex the basic respect of his identity.

At least the feds are going to investigate after the locals are done.

Right now it still looks like he died from head injuries sustained from the attack, and likely had some internal bleeding in the brain. People can get these kinds of injuries and feel fine for a day, then collapse dead later as the bleeding continues. There are numerous accounts of this happening, and why it's so important to get checked by a doctor after a head injury or concussion.

That would need to be prosecuted with some kind of murder charge, like gross indifference to life resulting in negligent homicide or manslaughter.

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Yeah!

Hopefully they bring charges soon that reflect the serious nature of this hate crime, instead of sweeping it under the rug like the police initially tried to do.

pinky0926 posted...

This entire thing seems really hard for some to grasp, lol

No, it really isnt. I have pretty extensive experience with fine dining.

Is this just bragging then if youre ignoring the question?

Maverick_Reznor posted...

The next article you posted was a lot better

The first article came out very early and was not made by a professional journalist but a community member contribution, if you read the page better.

The next article posted is after more time has passed, more details have come out, and there are more sources available.

willythemailboy posted...

I thought they were nonbinary and used they/them, in which case the police are still misgendering them.

Maybe if you read the article, you will understand better. Many people have been misgendering him, and this is super common for trans people early in transition and/or trans kids to be frequently misgendered.

FYI, being non-binary doesnt mean someone uses they/them pronouns. Pronouns =/= gender

Actually read the article youre responding to -

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/fight-hasnt-ruled-cause-nex-benedicts-death-police-say-rcna140780

Another update, surprise surprise

Authorities havent ruled out that a fight at school could have contributed to the death of Nex Benedict, a 16-year-old transgender student whose case has drawn international media attention.

Owasso police said in a statement last week that preliminary information from the medical examiners office indicated that Benedict did not die as a result of trauma. The police department added that further comments on Benedicts cause of death were pending until toxicology results are released.

Some community members and others on social media took the departments statement to mean that any potential injuries Benedict sustained from the fight didnt cause his death. However, Lt. Nick Boatman, a police spokesperson, told NBC News on Tuesday that that wasnt what the statement was intended to mean.

We did not interpret that in any way, he said of the word trauma, which he said was used by the medical examiners office. He said that the medical examiners office didnt say it had ruled out the fight as causing or contributing to Benedicts death and that people shouldnt make assumptions either way.

story continued:
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/fight-hasnt-ruled-cause-nex-benedicts-death-police-say-rcna140780

Good to see they are using his correct preferred pronouns now btw (he/him)

Also, still no charges filed and no arrests made

Did you buy several bottles of expensive wine or something? And did that include tip?

Doubt I could even find enough microtransactions I want to purchase over four years to spend that much, assuming I win the lottery or something

neccis posted...

Then she would definitely be more twisted than I look

The over-arching point here is that this discussion isnt really about referring to women as females in an insincere or joking manner. Its disingenuous to downplay as just jokes, and disrespectful to women with your earlier suggestion how others just dont understand humor and joking with friends/family.

neccis posted...

Because in real life people joke around. We're teasing.
Like I said it's not that big of a deal

What if she wasnt joking around, though?

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Just put on a cowboy hat to blend in. The bigger the better.

yee-haw!

Theres a lot of good BBQ spots

Except Dickeys, dont eat there

Ultima_Fury posted...

Dallas specifically, for work training.

Will I get a lot of looks if Im Asian? Im guessing yes, if Im heading to a BBQ restaurant.
Also, does everyone carry guns there? Open or concealed.

No

and no

Why would your wife say you are a Kathouy?

Let the collections begin

Hope it works out well for you, I'm sort of in a similar position

What in the lords name is this now? Clumsy and redundant.

I just say Im female.

Gender on a form? [x] female

I cant imagine any context I would be saying something like Im a female human. Maybe a science fiction scenario where the alien overlords are going down their species checklist.

The_Apologist posted...

So you're agreeing with my point. Noun versus adjective doesn't matter.

Dang, champ. Another swing and a miss? Today is not your day.

The_Apologist posted...

They're nouns formed from adjectives. Like 'female'.

(Not that I'm defending referring to women as 'females', by the way. I agree that's cringe. But the idea that it's cringe because of grammatical considerations is just braindead.)

And actually, now that I look into it, 'female' was arguably a noun long before it was an adjective. It's derived from Latin femina, a noun meaning 'woman'.

No, still off base. It can be problematic because it can be dehumanizing and othering, or downright misogynistic. This isnt about grammatical considerations.

Its disheartening to see men come here and patronize women, telling us our experiences and perspectives arent that important, arguing there are more important or better things to do than listen to women about their lived experience

The_Apologist posted...

Why would a noun be any more reductive than an adjective, though?

Pick any number of other groups and do the same, whether that's transgender, black, etc.

This isn't something crazy or difficult to understand, and widely regarded as inappropriate. Though that still doesn't stop people from using language in this manner, just as in this thread we have people complaining about the grammar police in so many words.

lilORANG posted...

If I'm talking about a female I will use the word female. But I guess it doesn't come up a lot

Case in point^

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If youve been reading the thread, you would notice the use of the word female is not inherently problematic. Thats not what is at issue here.

The difference is in using it as noun instead of an adjective.

Im female or I am female is not problematic. Using it as a noun, however, reduces the person down to a trait (that being female.) This is where some people or guys regularly refer to women as females, or saying are you a female versus are you female?

Theres nothing wrong with the word female, its the usage of othering and dehumanizing that comes from using it as a noun instead of an adjective to refer to people.

Conservatives and both siders will continue to misrepresent the discussion as woke liberals screeching about how the word female is banned.

WalkingPlague posted...

nobody does. its a fun read when you have a bunch of egomaniacs trying to tell you how to speak and what words to use.

they can keep it up. im right here with my

Prime example of the misogyny and historical sexism still prevalent

women who share their experiences and perspectives about language that is othering and dehumanizing are dismissed as hysteria or in this case labeled egomaniacs

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new word unlocked!

fomparison

I think I like it.

NatsuSama posted...

Opinions aren't all equal and neither is all universities and studies. There are many things that wasn't studied in a university until it was, and there are many things that might not ever be studied.

Citing a particular university doesn't change there's a plethora of people like red pillers using the word "women" in a derogatory and negative context to refer to things they don't like about what a woman says or does.

That's why I said agree to disagree. We aren't going to see eye to eye on this particular point.

Like toxic masculinity? That is another driving force behind referring to women as females and saying stuff like dont cry, stop acting like a girl as misogyny.

VirtuousWrath posted...

Tbh, you have to explicitly specify biofem nowadays.

why are you peddling this transphobic nonsense now

TheOtherMike posted...

Because the latter isn't used in the same way. At all. And when you said it was I asked you to show me, but you haven't provided so much as a single example. Meanwhile, multiple users itt alone outright admit to doing the former. Can you show me some examples of "I'm going to the bar to find me a male," "look at these fine males on Tinder," or anything similar?

the oversexualization of women and girls enters the room

C_Pain posted...

Literally look up any online dictionary and you'll see the second usage of male is as a noun to denote a male creature.

Dictionaries have information about words that we use. You can look up slurs and all sorts of stuff. This is absent some context.

The point being missed is that in many or most context, using female as a noun is frequently dehumanizing and othering towards women or girls, and perpetuates misogyny. This is not every context from the usage of a word, like a biology teacher talking about animals or creatures.

haloiscoolisbak posted...

My defence of "female" extends to not knowing what's a better term to use when describing the whole gender. For example, women excludes younger girls and girls excludes older women

Theres nothing wrong with using the word female, provided youre using it as an adjective and not a noun.

Dark Medieval Jedi

A low karma/ new user got suspended, typical day

LightningThief posted...

Which is beyond the point of what I said, so I'll assume you are talking to him then.

For me the salary is irrelevant.

Yeah that wasn't directed at you, more of a general remark =)

LightningThief posted...

I'm going to assume you are talking about something else here.

Nevermind your post here is beyond my point, it's moot given I never mentioned making that kind of money. After skimming the topic, it's being suggested the woman is making that kind of money.

Yes, and he also said something along the lines of they both have a similar salary.

Blue_Popo posted...

Thats your relationship and Im happy for you. Self identifying as a feminist sort of implies to me you dont need a man and can carry your weight. Also we make similar amounts and are similar age. Why is it 100% me, this is coming from a guy who has had relationships in the past which were 80% me in terms of money. All I valued was "would this person pay" and a "thank you"

If I made a quarter million dollars every year I sure as fuck wouldn't be stressing over a dinner bill

LightningThief posted...

I addressed everything you said earlier in the topic already.

Personally I wouldn't have even gotten to a 4th.

But we do know she isnt willing to volunteer to pay at least according to the TC. According to the TC she never offers, and on top of that makes an effort to avoid paying. Not even bothering to offer is still bad, and assuming a precedence the other person will pay is no better.

Ultimately this comes down to how bad does the TC like this girl and want to make this work. If he does, then he needs to communicate to her. If he doesn't, I'm not sure why he's still with her. Personally I think it says a lot to be with anyone who doesn't even bother to offer to pay for their own things and just assumes you're paying. To just sit there and assume I'm paying because I paid the last 1, 2, or 3 times is not the type of people I hang around.

I don't care who asked who out. If you need compensation to hang out with me, then simply don't hang out with me.

Luckily my family, friends, and the girl I'm currently with is not like this. We will go dutch sometimes, sometimes we will offer to pay the whole bill, but thankfully no one in my circle just assumes they don't have to bring their wallet.

Why get yourself all worked up into a tizzy like this when you can simply say something like, "separate checks please."

I genuinely enjoyed the show and when I say funny I mean in an entertaining way, not like laughing at you btw in case that was ambiguous.

Stepping up into that is an accomplishment itself and takes grit.

I can imagine! Must've been quite emotional. It was entertaining and I would watch again if you have any future matches =)

Glad the other guy is okay! Thanks for the update too

Dont worry, its not loaded.

Im going on a roadtrip with a friend (ex) and another couple.

Expiration dates dont matter.

My kid is an asshole.

Ive done my good deed for the day.

My uncle is a Navy Seal.

My husband likes to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/live/4Ws5jSwurWc?si=4IUllL90N13wziK4

can rewind to watch the fight again^

@4 hour 16 min mark I think

StealThisSheen posted...

Are you kidding or is this legitimately what happened, because this is hilarious

Yes thats what happened, he was running around the ring and also celebrating.

the ref did grab his hand and hold it up like he was the winner but said no contest then he ran around some more celebrating with people at the edge of the ring

very entertaining fight