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I dont doubt that scum was already aware of the renaming conventions, which actually makes me like JC a bit more here since I dont think he would feign confusion this many hours after it already happened.

changmas posted...

i know what this is going to turn into for JC so lemme nip in the bud a bit

its a sultan game so i think its super possible he did some wacky renamed roles for some people and not others, regardless of alignment

but to answer JCs question, myself and many others have renamed roles that have nothing to do with their function, so sultan also included their function afterwards. Presumably that applies to FD, lopen, and Ben (and myself) at the very least

I did a double take with JC's reaction at first, but I agree that your theory is probably whats happening here.
I dont think any nillas are just called vanilla (vanilla), but JC claims to not be one anyway.

Lopen posted...

Irrelevant that the reason was "wrong" it's still calling attention to the claim. It gets people to look at the claim again so it's still not something a scummate does imo.

Drew my attention more towards isquen really

I want to be generous and say he may be trying to actually suspect someone now
Isquen that is.
But the fact that his case is still founded on the initial 'bad claim' argument, kinda takes the wind out of his sails.

Isquen posted...

Still think Ulti's claim is dumb though. Flanders, sure. Mechanically, it stinks.

The mechanical aspects of his claim were not the reason you voted Ulti to begin with tho.

wallmasterz posted...

be the chang you wish to see

Thats so good I feel like I've heard it before.
I feel like we've had this convo about Isquen before too
Right down to the 'Isquen isnt even that inactive' feeling I have.

Hey if you want attention, you can have it.
But I am not so bloodthirsty so I will just ask
What do you want to do Changmas?

Oh okay, now I get it, Ctes.

On a lesser note
I am curious why Isquen picked to vote Kirby of the 'two inactives'

To be fair I brought up the first thing in topic1 with Isquen and he answered that by saying 'Oh I was calling both things bad for town'. Though in hindsight I dont know what he is saying that he thinks Ulti actually is.

In general I feel like Isquens been lazy-voting more than actual-voting.

Honestly I dont see Kirby as the kind of guy who'd (willingly) afk regardless of alignment

Mzero has an awful timezone (even more than me), so I am gonna cut him some slack for now.
I am glad he managed to replace in tho, and would like to see him catch up.

I kinda lost track of how Ulti/Sbell got narrowed down away from your list there, Ctes.

Obellisk posted...

the purpose was to share with the game that I was not of the simpsons universe.

a flavor scan of this could easily trip up a flavor scanner. So if you are looking to place "worry" somewhere I suppose it would be a concern for that situation. But I experienced no active worry or anxiety or concern when sharing this information first post.

felt like it fell under the millerish category to me. Maybe I'm wrong for thinking along those lines as most have chosen to highlight. That's just a difference of opinion.

Maybe my initial question was too broad, I did not see worry purely for your own sake and not at all concern about you making your claim.
I just thought that you either sounded like you were afraid that people would call you scum if they scanned you or at least that people would be confused by the flavor.
However I now better get your actual concern for the flavor cops sake, since I should not assume everyone has watched that much of the show.

Though I pity Wallz.

Obellisk posted...

one would have to know that that has occurred.

Thats true. But I meant it more in a factual sense. Not in the sense that I expected everyone to be okay with the flavor.

Obellisk posted...

bad post and already discussed. Sbell never showed an inkling of concern or worry. Death creating narratives.

You may question my post quality, but my point was valid.
You were using caps lock in your post at one point when you explained your motivation to claim.
Hell, claiming period implies at least a level of concern about a possible negative result.

Also why are you talking in the 3rd person. That nearly tripped me up.

Tho again, Peter Griffin has shown up in Simpsons episodes (plural)
Its not as weird as a random Cobra Kai character

Corrik7 posted...

And death supposedly knew his flavor before he claimed his flavor... um more ok.

As...do we all?

Oh wait you are talking about me and Sbell.
That was just an educated guess based on the Xenoblade Mafia 3 incident

Corrik7 posted...

Oh when did this game start. Lol. I got some reading to do tomorrow.

Thats all he said last page.

To be honest I don't know how both he and Kirby missed that the game had started when they were @ed at the start.

I definitely like Sbell more than Ulti of the miller-ish claims. That has not changed since last night.
(I dont count Wallz as one of those)

Still disagree with his attacks on me for more than just the obvious reason tho.

Kirby321 posted...

I'd say my argument against Lea is way weaker than my argument for Chang, honestly. Especially since Chang had absolutely no obligation to call attention to Ben's post.

But it's okay, Ben is my mason buddy. Hopefully he knows me well enough to understand what I've been trying to tell him.

Because it needs to be said, no, Ben is not actually my mason buddy.

Even if you tried to undermine your own Lea argument, I would say its a fair point to make.
Dont get me wrong, Lea is hard to read for me too. But there are bursts of investedness (I know thats not a word, sue me) that make me like her for now.

Its also not that I dislike Changmas. But just like you yourself said, he hadn't left a big impression on me either yet. And his one comment about Bens post is not enough to tip him over into town for me. Yet it was for you.

..

Btw not sure what Ben still needs to understand, but that's I guess his answer to make.

GLADOS
Zelos

(how can I not vote for the man who failed at making a sandwich)

I can believe that.

Shiny hunting is what I do as well
And I have run into wild shiny pokemon more in this game than I have done so ever before in my life
(1 in BW2, 4 in SwSh, 12 in SV)

agesboy posted...

the literal god tobyfox himself did some SV music

my favorite track: https://youtu.be/zEdsMCnbYB0

This is my favorite track as well
It just makes me feel so happy and nostalgic for reasons I cant explain.

That said there are some good themes in the game that Toby didnt work on, like Tera Raids and Penny's Battle.

Also stuck at work for now. My workplace does not block access to gamefaqs, but I get Bens pain.

I do like Bens townconfirming players right out of the gate and I agree with his assessment.

My last thought before I went to sleep was 'oh FD is probably town because he noticed the vanilla claim quirk'.
Plus I already thought Lopen was town anyway.

I am not as excited about Kirby's contribution. While what he says about Ben/Lopen/FD is fair, his argument to call Changmas is less strong and him then trying to add himself to the end of that sequence makes him look like someone wanting to take advantage of the 'townreads' going on.

Meanwhile I cant tell the difference between a truly stubborn Red and a scumred who is faking it. But he claimed Vig so he should resolve eventually.
Even if that means he will end up shooting me. (which I suppose is better than him shooting townpower by accident)

Anyway I am off unless there's any last questions.
Dont worry tho. Its only monday that forces me to sleep this early.

Though the role Pm also also says I am a Vanilla anyway

Forceful_Dragon posted...

So you're claiming to be vanilla both in role-name <u>and</u> function?

Knew I forgot something,
Forgive me I am tired.
My rolename is Average Joes

Enchantress posted...

Agreed

Did you consider claiming when I posted Lenny was auto town like an hour ago?

I did consider to acknowledge it in some way. But I didn't want to even breadcrumb anything in the end since It was possible that scum would never see Lenny as a power role either way.

This is also why I didnt really think scum would be the mob
I figured if Carl and Lenny were one flavor, so too could be something like Fat Tony's henchmen

...
That said Louie is clearly the best Fat Tony underling

Enchantress posted...

If enough people do that maybe we can skip or shorten day one. Me, I try to stay engaged with jokes, but it's so boring until it isn't

I dont like it either. But every time its the same old "death why dont you do more on day1?' routine.

Enchantress posted...

What is your flavour?

What is your role?

Do you have any opinions stronger than "everyone so far could be town" and "crazy old Isquen voted for no reason!" ?

I want to be snarky and say 'non town selfconfirming'
But I dont have the time to resist at this point and I dont want to be rude.

Carl Carlson and Lenny Leonard, Town Vanilla

I consider something like me feeling that Lopen is town to be a strong opinion.
I did for a while wonder if you were hiding in memes too much, but that feeling is also much less now.
Outside of that I like Wallz well enough as town. Less sure about Ulti or Sbell, but I dont tghink they both are scum and I like Sbell a little more of the two.

Enchantress posted...

I mean it's pretty scummy to just say everything in the game so far could be town shrug

Thats fair. But thats just slow day1 me.
Maybe I should just join the 'see ya day2' club next game.

I will say that at least Lopens vote on me I can understand to some degree.

If anyone has any questions for me, better ask them soon.

Also I am allowed to change my mind.

I didnt even actually start disliking the meme images. I just didnt think that particular one from Lea helped in any way. I also forgot she used to post that one all the time tho and for that I apologize.

You're lucky I didnt go to sleep yet, but I cant stay long

Lopen I didnt call Wallz town yet directly, but I did say as much here

htaeD posted...

Dont know yet.
All the big topics so far I have in a range from 'look like town to me' to 'I could see them doing the things they did as town'.

The big topics included Wallz
But thats my bad for not clarifying
I still think Isquens vote on Wallz itself was for a bad reason and I am baffled that so many disagree

Mine is not either

Though I suspect this pattern wont hold.

Me neither tbh
It ended poorly
Maybe thats why

Oh its about the list Lea posted.
For some reason that didnt even cross my mind since Ulti wasnt even in that game

Meanwhile I am starting to feel like my memory is getting worse by the hour.
Now I understand why Isquen voted Wallz (though I dont think the vote had merit even if Wallz had been the one to claim Michael Myers last game)

But I dont recall anything about a previous Flanders?

That game was an outlier anyway since we flipped flavor splits each day.

Basically its not something I know about Wallz specifically
Its a fact I expect to be true about every player.
...
..
Maybe not Corrik

Obellisk posted...

I can't say I remember enough about wallz previous plays to say either way. but you seem to know enough about wallz but not his interactions with others in games.

it's equivalent.

you claim to know enough to say one thing but not another.

Obellisk posted...

I can't say I remember enough about wallz previous plays to say either way. but you seem to know enough about wallz but not his interactions with others in games.

it's equivalent.

you claim to know enough to say one thing but not another.

It is not.
Its not a thing to 'know' or a thing 'to remember'.
Its just me assuming that usually players dont go around claiming their own flavors as scum!

I feel called out

However okay I admit I may have gotten to hung up on 'how would I flavor this' and there may not be a flavor split at all.

Then I could see Wallz claiming to be Fat Tony as scum Fat Tony.
Tho in that case saying Wallz has to be scum because he claimed Fat Tony is not valid all over again.

I mean do you think Wallz would claim to be Fat Tony if he was scum Fat Tony?

Sbell those arent equivalents

One is a running gag, the other is simple logic

How would something like scumWallz claiming his real flavor ever become a tradition anyway?

*scumWallz
I should clarify.

townWallz claiming his actual flavor is not reality-bending at all.

Its clearly been too long since my last game if I am already forgetting all the traditions.

Obellisk posted...

why?

Because I cannot see Wallz claiming his actual flavor in any reality?
Though if its a jokevote from Isquen pretend that there's egg on my face.

Octopath Traveler 1 and 2 if you are into JRPGs

Isquen posted...

Doing my usual "at work forever" thing but that is a really weak jump-on, Death. There's nothing double-sided about my Ulti view, in that I think it's bad for town no matter which way you peer at it.

But then you have someone claiming LITERALLY MAFIA and maybe one day I'll have a vote stick to wallz and actually mean anything.

##vote: wallz

Oh then I misunderstood your post. I thought you were saying Ulti was either scum doing it, or town doing it.

Thats a pretty terrible vote however.

*not vote