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If you read JUST peaf posts and peaf related posts that's so clearly it it hurts.

But Dumey x Peaf as a gambit is a hard sell
Death being shot direct is a hard sell

But they're both plausible at least. I don't think Death had a lot of suspicion and it could have been power hunting based on how he was talking about "not exposing power roles"

And what are the odds the conversation just went south and scum was like

I want to clear Chris but you look at day 1 and Peaf interactions and he looks REALLY bad

And what are the odds that scum has some sort of other information role

What are the odds Chris lamented how screwed he was night 1 and Death was like HUH HUH WORRY NOT CITIZEN

Also because common sense

In that case I feel JC pairs with Peaf not Dumey

Like Death peaced due to bedtime.
Mzero as well
Chris claimed Phone issues
Red was clearly never going to risk dying
Ulti burned Kirby's name into a voodoo doll and was doing a war hex

Are they all scum? No. Seems so easy for Peaf to have left much earlier than he did if not with scum to begin with.

My big problem is why didn't Peaf just afk if with town Dumey. It's the easiest thing in the world.

I really don't understand why scum would hang around when you had so many NOT. It's why I thought the exercise was unlikely to actually catch any scum

Well the big problem is Peaf was a huge "oh no Kirby is such obvious town" bleeding heart and Sultan tried to create chaos to be fair but mzero was afk as he tends to be at that time

It was way less glaring for Ulti and red to not care (Ulti had been shading Kirby all day) and mzero to not care due to being away.

The only reason I don't clear dumey for it is it makes a lot more sense for Peaf to break as a gambit to help clear Dumey if it fails than for Peaf to not just feel content to afk with his chained up town soul mate.

Lea also really helped drive the Chaos that killed Peaf

I feel like basically everyone in the last 7 (FD, JC, Lea, me, dumey, Kirby) should be cleared because Peaf died to begin with. I feel it would be easy for anyone involved aside from me to bs trying to pair up with Peaf if they were scum

I don't know how you say "Dumey has to be town" and still have Lea in your POE

I had theorized Ulti to be town overnight but this utterly sycophantic attitude towards red based off of way less solving than Lea and I did, Death flipping Chris BG, and this senseless POE has me doubting

If in lockdown with town Dumey does Peaf just afk? Why not just pretend to be gone if he's chained to town?

He only looked so bad about not saving Kirby to begin with because he opened his mouth

MZero posted...

In the end I think Peaf just broke up with Dumey cause he felt like it would look scummy not to and was worried about perception

100%

Also I think he thought he could leave JC out to dry

When he broke up it was this

Peaf (offer to Kirby)
JC (offer to Kirby)
Lea
Dumey
Kirby

If Peaf takes Kirby successfully its down to Lea Dumey JC which probably kills JC-- I think Kirby had looked more favorably on Peaf than JC overall (I had done a Peaf ISO last night and the vibe felt that way)

A gamble but one worth taking if it looked out of character to not save Kirby. Then me and FD get added and it throws off the calculation.

The question is whether distancing from Dumey gave it further upside.

Also Peaf showed a lot of remorse about poor Kirby

In a sense it would almost be claiming scum to NOT do anything when he thought Kirby was town

To us it was never about whether Peaf could find some reason to do that and more whether Peaf x Dumey could have been a scum scum pair doing that.

I personally think if Dumey was town that Peaf just holds tight but I could see a case for Dumey being town-- Peaf could have done it liking his chances over JC

If Dumey is scum though the town equity it would generate for Dumey would be worth it.

Like basically it went

Peaf breaks up to try and steal Kirby from JC

Then FD and I break up

Now everybody has a bunch of options all of a sudden and Peaf is hosed

Lea had a theory about that

The idea she had was that Peaf wanted to townclear himself by moving late and got hosed by you breaking up with me at the wrong moment

I think he was aiming to leave JC out to dry then once me and you entered the market there were a ton more options and he didn't

BTW Lea I think the eagle has landed or something. I'll follow your lead.

I'm also super interested in details of red/Ulti conversations since red suddenly becoming a ball of theories on the game when in a neighbor environment sounds odd

UltimaterializerX posted...

Death dying on the night he dated Chris is red flag city, btw.

Agreed but will withhold judgment till Chris tells us what they talked about

Oh wait

Death automatically bodyguarded Sir Chris that's interesting

Hey Chris what was the conversation like last night

Nice job Death

I had you in my POE and now I think the game is solved with you successfully guarding someone (it was clearly me right?)

I apologize I didn't formally say goodbye Lea the room locked just before I could. It was a pleasure solving the game with you!

I think why AI is a concern is you can generate an image that looks like a photo of the conceptual attraction easily. You could even add people to the photo to add to the illusion.

Like the Oz ad is a bunch of who cares those are just costumes with no context and something doable without AI entirely. What makes that one perhaps troubling in how it's misleading-- the image on the left is very much implying that it's a picture of where you're going.

Blind

Ulti power wolfing

It's like Ned Flanders came in and didn't retcon his claim to vanilla

Like

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Ok. What does it actually help?

I understood how it worked I think. I'm just wondering what the actual point is. What data does it give us to solve with.

Ie feels like scum fakeclaim

I feel like given the number of roles that don't work in this format that role is very unuseful

I say kill it

So if Peaf isn't scum it's gotta be three putting their head down

Ulti
Chris
Mzero
Red

Is probably your Poe. If Peaf is scum it's still that just less.

I'm not saying you're scum I just think if there's scum sneaking around you could be scum.

I mean I dunno I guess it works. I can't really claim credit for this but this is one of my top suspects being lynched by design so I can't complain

I really am confused because I can't see scum peaf leaving his pairing. But then again he was woe is me about JC late so maybe he had to to not look sus

I don't feel as satisfied as I ought to lol.

I mean for me this feels like the most likely scum of the lot BUT also two people are claimed vanilla.

This is so strange.

Got em

My gut says execute JC

This is all the help you need

JOIN ME AND WE SHALL DOMINATE THE EARTH

##Date: Lea

I'm not falling for the shiny pink ball

I'm slightly weirded out that both JC and Peaf didn't just breakup but immediately dated Kirby

Enchantress posted...

Why would a town Praf go along with my plan??? That wasn't the reaction I was expecting from town who thinks I'm scum at all.

Plot twist Kirby is scum and we choked a good catch away

Right now my gut says scum is Chris Ulti Peaf atm so this is a bunch of pointless gesturing.

If I'm wrong about one it's probably Peaf though. Chris and Ulti should absolutely be tested tomorrow.

Ulti contributed ok. Kinda zombied into Kirby flowchart as we went but

But just letting red skate feels wrong

Gonna be honest

Thought Ulti was gonna break up with Red right before the lockdown to throw him into the pool like I did with Isquen

Him enabling total lurkerdom feels unlike town Ulti

Suspect Ulti WAY more than red atm

Chris yes

Isquen doesn't deserve heat for this

Exposing scum is the strongest power there is

Power worth a salt are offering their souls

Yeah Im OK with playing shuffleboard let's see who we can get to commit

PeaceFrog posted...

Something something lopen has fantasies of what the peaf in his head would do for him and he gets irritated when the real Peaf doesn't do those things for him, something something.

But i won't get into that right now.

What I'll say is that i thought Kirby was scum up until and even a little after his claim, then seeing the reactions and lack thereof made me reconsider. I'm no time traveler, Lopen. You can go back and see i was calling for Kirby's head for a while.

So you'd be willing to join the mayhem