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oh god, why?
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I don't know if there's a speedrunning community, but I used to be able to beat the original Duke Nukem in like 10 minutes. I haven't played it in ages, though, so I suspect it wouldn't take more than a second or two.
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Gotta love how the change to naga sea witch makes jade druid even stronger.

https://hsreplay.net/replay/hABdX9oZNzNDLY894XzyuC


edit: It appears to also have made Big EZ Druid ridiculous, too. I thought that style had basically died off with the expansion.
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10 to 1 I forget somehow and get angry about the autodraft, even though it does a better job than I would have.
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Chaeix posted...

azuarc posted...

my wild jade rogue deck is currently 30-11. At one point today I was at an 82% winrate before I went on a 4-5 skid.

Now if only I could make a standard deck that successful. There really aren't many wild cards in the deck. The only critical one is sludge belcher.

okay so the deck makes you happy but

what if you played a deck that didn't make you a terrible person

Playing jade rogue makes me terrible? Druid, sure. Shaman's had it's day in the sun during Gadgetzan. Rogue never gets any love in the jade department. And it's nothing like the miracle decks and other BS that most rogue decks pull.
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my wild jade rogue deck is currently 30-11. At one point today I was at an 82% winrate before I went on a 4-5 skid.

Now if only I could make a standard deck that successful. There really aren't many wild cards in the deck. The only critical one is sludge belcher.
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Why does YouTube always have to change the layout?
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I never bother picking. I just hit space bar. But on the first few times I tried to play RPS, it seemed like I was constantly getting counterpicked, so I said to hell with it.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Seriously?

I don't think I ever lost against the AI when my stat was higher?

Are you telling me or asking me? Because there's absolutely no way that this would be true. RPS is patently crooked, and has been noted by myriad player complaints on various websites. It was from those that I found out I could save literally in the middle of the RPS roll, hit auto, and then reload fairly quickly.

And I'm not exaggerating when I say I've lost as many as 30 straight times. I might not actually have been favored in that match, but I definitely wasn't unfavored.
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skullbone posted...

All of these garbage jade cards (and Patches) rotate into the dumpster where they belong.

What if I like playing jade in a class that's not druid? (Or shaman, for that matter.)
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RPS was so horribly broken. The idea was okay, but you lost far more often than probability suggested you should. Like, when i have a charm factor of 3 to my opponent's 2, I should have at least a 50% chance to win. Quicksave, lose, quickload, lose, quickload, lose, quickload, lose...I once went 30 loads in a row like that before I finally won. The fact that I did eventually win shows that it doesn't save the random seed. It's just crooked as hell.
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Was trying to play jade rogue on standard. Had a win rate of 45%. Then I went to wild, added a couple sludge belchers, and my current win rate is 80% after 20 games.
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I would wait until it's on sale, because I'm a cheap bastard and I'm pretty sure I've seen it on sale for less than 40 outside of sales, but it's a good game that reached for greatness and missed in a few places. I personally get fed up enough with those limitations and faults to be able to sing the game's praises, but it does do a number of things really well, and it's approach to the RPG genre is relatively unique.
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KokoroAkechi posted...

Is enhanced for the first game worth the 40 buck asking price?

Do you have the original?
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I don't remember what day the draft was, but I know it's not until September.
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azuarc posted...

But did they fix all the annoying crap from D:OS1?

I anticipate someone will ask, so I'll just start explainng now.

1) Rock, paper, scissors.
2) Attribute bonuses force you to basically dedicate your whole character to your main equipment stat, and even then you still lose your equipment mid-fight and are a sitting duck if you get hit with a debuff.
3) Rock, paper, scissors.
4) Pathing glitches where it's impossible to make your guys path through a ground hazard out of battle, and impossible to make them avoid it when you're in battle.
5) Overloading of the left mouse button operator leads to some very obnoxious misclicks you can't take back, especially when you click ground instead of the enemy just because their idle animation moves them out of the way
6) Did I mention rock, paper, scissors?
7) Dragging and throwing barrels to block off traps often had some hilariously bad results
8) There were two points in the campaign where you literally could not progress unless you had leveled up a character's stealth. Unfortunately the game doesn't warn you of this, so you play to about level 15 before you find out that you suddenly need to find invisibility potions or something.
9) Critical spells aren't always available, and thus you can occasionally be shut out of being able to fully build your character.
10) Inventory management was often dreadful, and equipment degradation was completely pointless when one point in repair was enough to deal with it. At least they fixed passing things around just to ID them in the EE.
11) Many other skills are indeed completely pointless. Lockpicking and bartering, to name a couple.

And those are just the things that I remember off the top of my head.
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But did they fix all the annoying crap from D:OS1?
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23 to 9

Third Amanda pic takes it.
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lol.

And no, I would never trust him with my life. You kidding?
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Whaat? This topic has been up for over 36 hours and nobody told me??

Anagram posted...

... and to think we're getting a SoM remake of all things before we even see Tifa in the FF7 remake.

Superior games come first. Although if Purim were replaced by Tifa, that would be an improvement.
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We can't forget...Lester the Unlikely.

LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

Poor poor soul Commander Keen

Damn, beat me to it. I was wondering where the PC games were on here. Also, Duke Nukem.
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I expected this to be more one-sided.
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I live in the next state over. I don't think I've ever seen a diner when I've been to New Jersey. Family restaurants, sure, but actual diners?
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omg, I'm dying...

Trump: You're not thinking very big
Amnesiac: I don't think big at all
Trump: What put you on this path of pessimism?
<dramatic pause>
Amnesiac: Babbling book.
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UltiXX posted...

50 resets between mage attemps is not a "puzzle". It does not require skill. It's nothing more than a check on...

Man, you would have loved raiding, Ulti.
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What if I've been to a diner several times, and at least once was good and at least once sucked?
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Ringworm posted...

24. Next.

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Oh god, you have to win with every class? I just finished it with a jade druid deck and thought I was good to go. (Incidentally, he handed me the win. I would have died to the freeze the next turn, and he blizzarded my army, but then for some inexplicable reason he killed Aya, and I got a lone 15/15 to kill him with.)
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My most successful draft was, ironically, the time I missed it and got autodrafted. I ended up with two kickers and a few other oddities, but I was able to smooth those over. The only weakness in it was that it was that most of my players were on the same team. They didn't do so hot in week 16.
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Charlize lost, huh. Didn't even know there was a topic, or that she was next.

15-6
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I usually have plans to avoid drafting QBs, but it hasn't worked that way the last two years.
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I don't think my current phone has ever spelled "the" correctly. And it changes things oddly all the time, plus has issues with simply starting with the correct letter sometimes.

My old phone didn't do this. Why can't I have the text/swype/keyboard/whatever-it-is that my old phone had?
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VeryInsane posted...

Big Priest relies a lot on big drops and if they Barnes on 4 you're in trouble but... it's not that much different from literally any other deck that runs Barnes/Y'Shaarj combo. They just try to highroll a ton, and if they do it looks fantastic and it will be etched in your memory... but at the same time, it isn't infallible.

Have you looked at the decklist Kibler runs? There's literally nothing that isn't a highroll. 2 statues, lich king, y'shaarj. That's basically the entire minion list, iirc. Maybe N'Zoth's in there, and if so, that's not great. But that's still a 4 in 5 chance.

And 4 in 6 for Shadow Essence because it could turn up Barnes.

Meanwhile, the deck runs double PoM, double Pint-Size/Horror, double Dragonfire Potion, double Greater Healing Potion just in case you do get a few hits in first...of course double Shadow Visions to turn up extra copies. You only win if it draws poorly and you are ungodly fast.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Need some info on the distances of things from the fulcrum

It would appear, if we define one unit as the diameter of a ball, that the lever is basically three units wide. Although it's not quite accurate, I think we have to assume that in the first example, the balls' centers of masses are 1.5 and 2.5 units out, and the weight ranges from 1 to 3 units out, so it's COM it's 2 units from the fulcrum.
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17, 10, and 13.

edit: nm, I can't read. Less, more, whatever.
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Priest is everywhere in ranks 20 to...at least 13. I see druids, but only about half as often as priests.

And by far the most common priest build is turn 4 statue, turn 5 statue, turn 6 statue, turn 7 statue...it's impossible to get a foothold against that. Especially when you're afraid to play more than 1 minion prior to turn 4 before you'll just get 2-for-1'ed.

So between PoM and all the ways they cheat out their big minions, playing against priest is just incredibly frustrating and pointless. At least against druid decks, I feel like I'm playing the game.
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If you join this league, you get to kick my butt. Theoretically, at least. You have to win first.
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Well, you actually have the same idea I do, which is to try her with jade. I love jade rogue, but it was unplayable during Un'goro without Unearthed Raptor. Simply not enough jade sources. Rogues got screwed on that end.

I used to run a deck with a pirate theme to buoy my early game, and then after my opponent dealt with that pressure, then I'd play the jades. Under the current implementation, I'm not interested in doing patches, even though swashburglar is great.

I also wasn't planning on using Van Cleef or Shaku (since I don't have them) and I prefer Mistress to ERF. Especially with N'Zoth later, which I see you're not running. So basically, my version -- crudely -- would look like

-1 Hallucination
-1 Patches
-2 Doomsayer
-1 Sap (keep 1)
-2 Earthen Ring Farseer
-1 Edwin VanCleef
-1 Shaku the Collector
-1 Vanish? (definitely keep 1)

+2 Backstab
+2 Eviscerate
+2 Mistress of Mixtures
+1 N'Zoth, the Corruptor
+1 Shadowcaster
+1 Bloodmage Thalnos
+ some combo of SI agent, Loot Hoarder, Stonehill Defender, Journey Below, Mimic Pod, and the poison combo guy

Actually, maybe something like this: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/898183-legend-jade-nzoth-rogue-kft-s41

KokoroAkechi posted...

This is the rogue list im running

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Not sure what to do to make it better. Almost think it's nearly optimized but jade rogue is just not good.

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Anyone had any experience with Valeera the Hollow? Seems like a really underrated card.
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Bran al'Vere?

Bran Bronzebeard?

Raisin Bran?
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I always thought I'd make a more attractive woman.
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What do you mean by jaunty?
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Somehow I have managed to hear absolute jack and shit about football this preseason. Like, I barely even know the preseason is going.

Drafting's going to be fun.
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This is the first I've seen this. Posting now while listening to say that I assume I will vote for Air Man, but I guess we'll find out.
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Emeraldegg posted...

My friends list has been acting funky as of late as well. Sometimes when I open up the list in HS it will just be blank

I've also been experiencing this.
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tough.

13-11
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ironically, I have 4 DKs and that's the one I have yet to play. Just not excited about playing druid.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I dunno about "unstoppable," but he's not that bad when you don't die turn 4.

He's got windfury and a whole lot more.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

can I vote for popeye

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VeryInsane posted...

I played against a Priest that got four Obsidian Statues and still won. As an Aggro deck

Granted.... I was able to push through with double devolve

Yeah, I don't think this counts. Try killing them in a way that forces you to sac a minion and tell me the same thing.

VeryInsane posted...

It's basically just Deadly Shot on a 4/8 body.

It's slightly above Primordial Drake which is what a 9 drop should be: Above an 8 drop

I'd hardly say it's slightly above Primordial Drake. Plus, PD was considered one of the most powerful cards of its set, and got run by basically everybody. So making a card better than that is like saying "oh, we only made it slightly better than Muster for Battle."

Primordial Drake does a Volcanic Potion to the board (3 mana). Obsidian Statue does Deadly Shot -- also 3 mana -- and has lifesteal. Lifesteal on a 4/8 is certainly worth more than 1 mana. It's not uncommon for the priest to gain 12 health from the statue. The other very important part is that its kill effect is a deathrattle rather than a battlecry, which means that it isn't meaningless when the priest cheats it out again. Plus it counts for stuff like N'Zoth and Awaken the Makers if they should be relevant.
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