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iiicon posted...

Whoa, just got an e-mail from Duckfeed TV's Patreon. Bonfireside Chat is ending in August! It's the end of an era.

have you been following the show lately? not a patron so i don't know why they're still going for that long, but yeah they really sound like they're just slogging through with how much they don't like dark souls 3 and the dlc. it's been hard listening since i really like 3, too! i get where they're coming from most of the time, but boy do they get nitpicky in these last couple of episodes. it's expected because obviously the little things get magnified when your emotions are already heightened.

so yeah i can only imagine them just replaying dark souls 1 for the show to go on for that much longer. it would be nice to hear them happy again haha.
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nice to see vtmb mentioned at all. happy to see it so high too!

tales of symphonia being that high though is kinda laughable!

my guesses for #1:

chrono trigger
dark souls
witcher 3
deus ex
planescape torment
skyrim
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the living failures fight looks amazing, has amazing music, and is that exclamation point to the lore of one of the best areas in the series. it also has that really cool summon attack. not really that interesting or exciting a fight itself mechanically, but i think those other points keep it from being in the bottom tier.

tazzyboyishere posted...

Also, I still have no clue how to dodge those meteors,

just sprint? those things never were a problem for me, and they're telegraphed with very specific animations from rom that should tip you off when it's going to start.
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confirmation that maria and i have the best taste. what a strange, funny, unsettling, and delirious thing the micolash fight is. encapsulates that one side of why bloodborne is a masterpiece.
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yeah, haru is a good example of that good girl archetype. also she fucking annihilates enemies with her grenade launcher.
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2017 games i beated:
persona 5

released 2017 games i need to beat:
nioh
nier
horizon
zelda
edith finch
night in the woods
little nightmares
kimmy
blackwood crossing
pinstripe
sexy brutale
hollow knight

games i'm playing:
overwatch

yup

also, persona 5's real pacing problems are in the last third of the game, not the beginning!

4 is still the best of the 3 i've played. i find that these games are at their strongest when they focus on the small, personal stories instead of directly tackling ~big topics~. 5 does more of the latter than the former. the clunky localization of this entry in particular and the shonen trappings of the series highlight that weakness,
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iiicon posted...

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198195918109/recommended/593900/

this review of Tender Loving Care is killing me

it's that goddamn signature
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the game definitely has real pacing problems in the final stretcb. that feeling of palace 7 going on forever extends all the way to the end of the game, unfortunately.
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Dennis > Charlie > Dee > Mac > Frank
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yeah, this will be the second 2017 game i play and finish. will just beat dragon age inquisition since i'm more than halfway through that already.
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how about that there this is the run huh
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Mac Arrowny posted...

And Last Surprise ends up on top?

you never saw it coming?
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sotc is a top 10 game for me. ico is a damn good game.

the last guardian didn't do much for me, unfortunately, and i was looking forward to it, too. like, i totally appreciate the craftsmanship behind it all. it's just that i couldn't help but see that craftsmanship, but not connect with it.

all the "emotional" scenes i recognize as well done. the set pieces look great. the cinematography is superb. the plot is fine. trico is a magnificent beast, had zero problems with him, and is clearly the best thing in the game. i respect the reversal of the escort mission conceit. still didn't touch me the way sotc and ico did.

oh and yeah controls and camera aren't great. the decision to have way more uncharted-like moments let the game fall to the same problems that series has where making a mistake, dying, and having to repeat a whole section just sucks all tension and excitement.
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from the looks of it, may is catch-up month. think i'll play nier and finish dragon age inquisition.
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do you guys still look up the answers to the questions in class on your own?
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whatever the average level is for the thieves guild, give or take 5 levels
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nope

if i know i'm close to beating a game, i'll beat it.

i have dropped games early or midway through, though.

i think i got a third into mega man legends 2, but then we got a ps2 and my brothers and i basically abandoned our ps1.

pretty sure i was over halfway through suikoden v, but then our ps2 broke and didn't get it repaired until months later, loaded up my only save, and had zero clue on what i was doing or what to do next. didn't feel like starting over so i just moved on.

got 50 hours into dragon age inquisition and had to stop to play persona 5. going back to that, with plans on mainlining it so i don't spend another 50 hours.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Also probably late on this but no, it does not. In fact, doing it before the deadline opens up your party members for Confidant hangouts just like the rest of them. The game literally lies to you when it tells you to do all your social stuff before you complete the palace.

thank god for the thieves guild since it tipped me off to this fact. i started to wonder why the SQUAD wasn't showing up for s link hangouts anymore while everybody else in the city was still available. looked at the thieves' guild, saw people were hanging out with the rest of the phantom thieves, and just pieced it from there. i wouldn't have been able to max out ann's link and get active support for futaba if i hadn't done that.
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well i am an idiot lol man i need to get more sleep

butterfly kiss is another low-key chiller
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SupremeZero posted...

I'm just going to dodge this silly conversation and say that I maxed all links no real problem with no guide, and that this dick waving contest is silly.

this is the ultimate dick waving post, proclaiming how easy a task is that an incredibly small percentage of players accomplish all the while saying how much it doesn't care

anyway just dropping in to say that layer cake is the goddamn coolest track. now that is something that truly doesn't give a flying fuck about anything.
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iiicon posted...

man, I fucking hate that review

if you're talking about that atlantic piece from everyone's (now former) favorite paranormal video game critic ian 'the ghost' bogost, i actually haven't read it yet but i like making ignorant references on hot topics!

for everyone else who doesn't follow games twitter, it's this article - https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/04/video-games-stories/524148/

also to be clear i adore gone home and will totally buy edith finch
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after 110 hours, i beat persona 5

good game, but i also feel so relieved now that i'm free from that prison.

back to overwatch and then i'll get edith finch over the weekend. speaking of

iiicon posted...

What Remains of Edith Finch is... Like Gone Home

oh so you mean juvenile trash that is evidence of video game stories never growing up unlike films and novels no thanks
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i've avoided all these topics out of fear of spoilers, but now that i've beaten the game after 110 hours, time for me to serve up these extremely hot takes with zero reflection and the most minimal influence from the community (literally finished the game at 3am and went to sleep right after)

makoto the best i can now say yasssss queen without a hint of irony

ann had a promising start but man did she get pushed aside halfway through

y'all need to lay off ryuji he might be the realest character in the main cast. tarukaja and charge made him essential in wiping off chunks of health of bosses and strong enemies in the very late game.

also lay off mishima what a lovable loser he is and i wouldn't be surprised if a good deal of haters see too much of themselves in him

haru is a good girl that i somehow managed to max her s link almost immediately. her archetype is rankling, but she rose above that with her interesting confidant arc. those veggies are great, too. also goddamn she was right there with ryuji in destroying bosses in the final couple of runs with her gun skills.

i really wish i had maxed out yusuke's s link because what a goofy bastard he turned out to be. he was also my biggest damage dealer for most of the mid-game, with mind slice as my go-to crowd control for enemies i didn't have the right spells for.

i also wish i could have spent more time with futaba, but she's cool and wacky. always appreciated her active support in battle.

morgana is all over the place for me. i think in the end i like him well enough, but even though i'm not that big a fan of aigis or teddie, they're more fully formed characters and just more memorable.

kawakami and takemi are great.

feel genuinely bad that i maxed out guts too late to see the final parts of iwai's story, especially after leaving it on that note and what he says to you when you say goodbye to him. untouchable's music is probably top 3 for me, too! didn't think that would be the case with how weird it starts, but i guess that's part of its charm.

that first skill you get from the tower arcana is p good, but did anybody here actually spend time with that link afterwards on their first playthrough?

main battle music for 3 and 4 are amazing, but man i think 5 might be my favorite now,

palace rankings - 6 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 4 > 5 > 3

4 is still the best, but the absolutely excellent style of 5, its dungeon crawling actually being good, and all the qol improvements make it better than 3

persona is at its best when tackling its themes through its character interactions (which is why 4 is still tops) and can be at its worst when it tries to take them head on through that tired lens of shounen anime with big words in big scenes. 5 is okay with the former but totally lays bare its juvenile take on ~social issues~, which is a fine take on its own considering the target audience, but personally i am starting to expect more from games when they decide to lean into ~social issues~.

good game that i think i might have stressed myself too much over the last stretch because i need to write a review of sorts for it within the month! beat 3 in 80 and 4 in 90, and i played those in a way more relaxed pace over a handful of months each, while i had to get through this, which happens to be the longest one, in 3 weeks. there were actual points in the final third of the game that i was wishing it'd wrap up soon, and i never felt that for 3 and 4. the clunky writing (hey localization) at times really stretched some scenes too. case in point, all the explanation for the "twist" after palace 6 jesus fucking christ i get it game. so over nerds fighting over the smallest details on how convoluted plots make sense that the game indulging that was the worst.

okay i'm done now i need to get to work.
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definitely checking that out. gonna need something short and quiet after persona 5.

which i somehow still haven't finished even after spending my entire weekend and day off on it, btw. already past 100 hours, and i'm thinking i still have 3 to 5 more to go!
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i'm fine with the idea. but if it doesn't end up growing the list, might as well scrap it altogether.
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getting close to the end of persona 5 and i'm now feeling overwhelmed to max out social links with a looming deadline

i'm sorry yusuke you goofy bastard but you'll have to find inspiration for your paintings on your own because i just don't have the time and you're still 3 ranks away
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MariaTaylor posted...

the only way to correct it would be if every player included all the main game bosses at the top, all at the bottom, or just removed them entirely.

i would have gone with that last option. i actually thought that would have been the case in the first place, but eh, not my topic.
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MariaTaylor posted...

uh, okay, so I'm having difficulty ranking the chalice bosses because of the main series bosses include among the list. like it's very difficult for me to figure out how to place these. I'm probably not going to submit a chalice ranking as a result.

yeah this is why i'd rather we just ranked all of the bosses in one list instead of splitting them up, but i totally understand why we're not doing that.

there's a pattern to how i ranked those in particular. i'll probably post explanations when they come up.
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so i guess we're considering iosefka's clinic to be part of central yharnam, and the healing church workshop and abandoned old workshop to be part of the cathedral ward?
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great project. we should see a final list with all the proper rankings!

years with enough games i actually care about:

1990: SMB3 > SMW
1991: Sonic > SF2 > Spider-Man vs. the Kingpin > SoR
1992: Sonic 2 > MK
1993: Doom > MK2
1994: S3&K > SoR2
1995: MK3
1996: Duke Nukem 3D
1997: FF7 > MMX4

1998: FFT > MGS > Brave Fencer Musashi > HL1 > Starcraft > MML > Grim Fandango > Tenchu > BoF3 > Tekken 3

1999: Suikoden 2 > Counter-Strike > Star Ocean 2

2000: THPS2 > Diablo 2 > Spider-Man > Vagrant Story > WWF Smackdown 2

2001: MGS2 > FFX > GTA3 > ICO > Civ 3

2002: GTA: VC > Suikoden 3 > THPS4 > LotR: TT > REmake

2003: Tenchu: WOH > WWE Smackdown: HCTP > Dynasty Warriors 4 > Manhunt > Dark Cloud 2

2004: MGS3 > VTMB > Cave Story > HL2 > Samurai Warriors

2005: RE4 > SotC > PW: AA > Civ 4 > Killer7

2006: Okami > God Hand > Bully > HL2:E1 > Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth

2007: Portal > Persona 3 > Mass Effect > AA3 > Tomb Raider: Anniversary

2008: Braid > Persona 4 > Dead Space > L4D > MGS4

2009: Batman: AA > DA:O > Demon's Souls > UC2 > Flower

2010: RDR > ME2 > Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light > Darksiders > GoW3

2011: Batman: AC > Dark Souls > SR3 > Deus Ex: HR > Portal 2

2012: Journey > Hotline Miami > ME3 > TWD: S1 > XCOM: EU > Spelunky > Fez > Dishonored > Diablo 3 > Spec Ops: The Line

2013: The Last of Us > SR4 > Gone Home > Brothers > SM3DW > MGR > TR2013 > GTAV > Guacamelee > BioShock: Infinite

2014: Dark Souls 2 > Child of Light > Valiant Hearts > The Wolf Among Us > TWD: S2 > Nidhogg > Destiny > Luftrausers > Jazzpunk > 80 Days

2015: Bloodborne > Life is Strange > MGSV > Her Story > Until Dawn > Tales from the Borderlands > Batman: AK > SMM > Lara Croft: Go > SOMA

2016: Overwatch > The Witness > Dark Souls 3 > Hitman > Furi > Titanfall 2 > INSIDE > DOOM > Darkest Dungeon > Hyper Light Drifter

i think 8-year-old me would've found it impossible for 28-year-old me to love games even more than i did back then

but here we are, ready to see these amazing years in the modern age get destroyed by the 90's in this upcoming contest!
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it hit at a bad time because i haven't been able to play any of it or get any of the new skins thanks to just playing nothing but persona 5.

think i'm just over halfway through. hoping to be done with it by the end of next weekend so i can at least get a week with this overwatch event before it ends!
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okay so maria i have to ask have you actually completed a run of the game without ever going to the hunter's dream

i assume that asterisk next to it means you can finish the game only having to visit it.. at the very end?

also i wonder who else here will be submitting a full list for the chalice bosses
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1. The Walking Dead S1

2. The Walking Dead S2
3. The Wolf Among Us
4. Tales from the Borderlands

5. Game of Thrones

i could very well have those middle three be interchangeable depending on my mood. really good stuff.

got could have been good if not for the insulting last episode that really soured me on the whole experience.
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i got back into gaming in a big way in 2013 after passively interacting with it through old ps2 games and a handful of handheld/mobile games. felt like the best time for me, as i really enjoyed most of the big releases too.

the last of us is my personal goat. i think you'll like it. it's a great supplement to the walking dead s1!

there are a couple of reasons bioshock infinite slipped away. it came out early in the year, tlou (rightly) stole its thunder in the narrative department, and it also got (rightly) shredded by games critics soon after the gushing from the mainstream games press ended.

i sorta agree with how gta v doesn't seem to have as much cultural cache as other big games from the past generation, but i dunno there has to be something significant about it when it continues to sell, as you say, a quadrillion copies. with that many people playing it, there's gotta be an impact on a mass scale. i think we'll probably see its influence more when red dead redemption 2 comes out and we know how its online multiplayer works.
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congratulations to dan and bianca

that man has so many stories to tell his grandkids, and they will probably laugh off half of them as the rantings of a crazy old person

also, i think rain world looks incredibly cool and will probably be worth playing maybe a year later when more people have done the hard work of figuring most of the mechanics out and i can stroll in with a better understanding of the game and way less frustration.
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Altma15 posted...

Nioh has a better combat system than dark souls and that really helps. But the non-connected world and sever lack of enemy variety really hurt the game. It's still fun but you fight many of the same exact enemies in every level for the entire game.

yeah, i've heard the criticisms. sounds like it's not gonna be the true "successor" to souls since great/interesting level design is definitely a hallmark of the series as much as the combat.

at least i'll be coming into it with my expectations set. looking forward to the challenge!
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i will definitely play nioh, but probably not until later this year. i think i already missed the boat on the "zeitgeist" for that, so i don't mind waiting some more until it eventually goes on sale and i've also cleared out some of my backlog. maybe the dlc for that will be discounted too!
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after spending hours on midir ng+2, i switched out my dragonslayer greataxe +5 for the wolf knight's greatsword +5 and just annihilated that dragon. barely used any estus even! i'm fucking stunned at how easy that fight became jesus christ it didn't even get to use its insane laser attack. probably because i was right up its face the entire time.

dudes were right about that strategy. and i wasn't even spec'd for that weapon's quality scaling at all!
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good top 5 for both lists. makes me wish more of the main content of dark souls 2 was as good as the dlc!

now on to the best souls game!
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i haven't really been checking this topic, but now that it's gone through the "modern" era and nearing completion, i feel the need to comment now on most years i give a shit about!

but i'll probably just do that when the topic's all done.
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oh yeah by "third phase" i don't really mean another transformation or anything. he just gets even more aggressive, adds a couple of unique attacks, and the magic explosions get bigger.
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forest of the fallen giants would've easily made top 10 if it didn't look so goddamn ugly. great sprawling level design with some neat enemy encounters and architecture that hints at a vast world with a storied past, bolstered by the fact that the latter half of the game revisits it and pays off those lore signals.

but mah aestheticsssssss

don't get the hype for velsdtsdststadadtdtds. well, yeah, i get the whole "last shining beacon in a dark world" thing, but man is that encounter easy and boring. beat him with no problems or tension on a fast-rolling no shield dex build, on a pure-caster build, and on a vit-heavy power-stanced dual ultra greatsword build. yawwwwwnn
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gael down after a ton of tries with the help of havel's shield. rolled a lot anyway for the second and third phase because your guard will just be broken if you try to block every attack with all that magic flying around.

fun times! gotta move on to persona 5 now though so maybe i'll just get back to midir later.
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digiiiiiiiii posted...

i have never played half life

should i start with black mesa? would that be weird?

i played half-life almost a decade after its release and still had a great time with it. definitely lives up to its reputation. last i heard about black mesa was that it's not even complete. granted, the last parts of half-life are its weakest, but i think its ending is worth going through those final areas!

i was planning on playing a lot of persona 5 this sunday, but a bad headache, a sore throat, dark souls 3 dlc, and this article i'm finishing up ranking all 5 souls game were in the way. taking a sick leave today to recover, and by that i mean play a ton of persona 5!
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i fucking adore the friede/ariandel fight. i mastered the first phase to the point that i wasn't getting hit. i also had a really good strategy to get through the second phase without using too many flasks.

and just the presentation for that entire fight is breathtaking. the music for the first phase alone gives me chills.

definitely one of my favorite boss battles.
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you know who's hard? the other two bosses in the dlc. cannot fuck up against those two. i do think i would have already killed the final required boss if this were on base ng and not ng+2. gotten it down multiple times to a fourth of the life bar left. i really like it though! should be high up my personal rankings once it's all said and done.
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i think a lot of people got intimidated by the 2v1 and the second phase where the prince has resistances to just about everything. that includes me my first time through!

but yeah, the long wind-ups, the small health pool of phase 1, and the lack of fast, punishing moves for just getting under the boss puts it round the mid tier in terms of difficulty for me.
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huh i thought i placed undead crypt higher
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yeah, just getting right up in the faces of these bat demons makes quick work of them. got em in 3 on ng+2 with +5 dragonslayer greataxe and +5 yhorm's great machete.
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