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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 8:54:32 PM
#310
Back

I've got an idea

Instead of killing an at worst Town vanilla who the best player in the game thinks is scum, let's randomly stumble on someone who is unclaimed at the last minute

What could go wrong
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 8:37:53 PM
#241
Need to read my son a book

##unvote
##vote:oddity


In case I don't get back and we have shenanigans
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 8:35:55 PM
#234
Remember that game where I was Town lawyer and switched he lynch from me to scum

That was kind of awesome.
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 8:27:12 PM
#205
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 8:24:59 PM
#200
Sceptilesolar posted...
Yeah, actually, what is up with VI? This passiveness from him is pretty strange. That's really different from the last game I played with him. Is he not around?


If oddity flips scum we can gun for him.

It's possible he isn't interested because he knows the outcome and can't affect it without looking terrible
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 8:12:24 PM
#173
Oddity posted...
Plum:

Oddity posted...
Everybody seems to believe this argument that I have changed my view on chris, from last game to this one. I may have posted differently there, but the attitude towards chris is the exact same. I know the argument is wrong but I can't prove it. Thus, I'm angry. The ppl who hate my vote waffling I can understand more. They're wrong, but I get it.


But from a big picture why would this make you angry

You are a vanilla getting mislynches day 1. What's the big deal?
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 8:06:20 PM
#160
masterplum posted...
Oddity, let me ask you a question

Why are you so angry

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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 8:02:45 PM
#149
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 8:00:07 PM
#138
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 7:58:52 PM
#136
dowolf posted...
I am confused as to why you think it's a bad vote. It's done its job.

But never mind. Tom, see page 1 of this topic.


???
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 7:58:32 PM
#134
DoomTheGyarados posted...
I mean, in a statement that means nothing but makes me smile: yes, I am town. I am town doing my best to play a polite, reasoned game.


Thank you for this by the way. Your whole set down my coat grab water made me laugh
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 7:57:38 PM
#131
DoomTheGyarados posted...
I have never seen someone supposedly so mad over calm reason and discussion over a period of hours. I haven't blindsided you, I haven't done anything dirty. I just noticed comparisons that everyone either agrees with or at least understands the problem. You waltz in and just go "grr"


I completely agree with this. This isn't "lynch the guy who said something I didn't understand (of which I have gotten legitimately angry over)" it's "here is a decent argument on this guy"

Anger doesn't make sense here. At least not initially. Perhaps if he tried to explain himself more and it went nowhere it could resolvemto anger but I don't understand the initial angry burst
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 7:55:24 PM
#125
pezloco posted...
masterplum posted...
dowolf posted...
##Unvote;
##Vote: Plum


this is getting annoying, and I have a headache already anyways.


... what?


He's been hinting suspicion of you all topic 3.

Tom, in the last topic, page 8 I think, you said the argument against him was airtight. Why? Go back and read my post about him. We can still avoid lynching him.


It has nothing to do with him suspecting me, I just think it's crazy that he thinks this vote matters. As far as I am aware he is the only person who has a scum read on me.

The what is not because he wants to lynch me, it's because of my confusion at why he thinks that is a good vote.
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 7:48:32 PM
#107
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 7:46:18 PM
#101
dowolf posted...
##Unvote;
##Vote: Plum


this is getting annoying, and I have a headache already anyways.


... what?
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 7:34:48 PM
#80
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 7:34:36 PM
#79
Oddity posted...
Oh yah, forgot:
##Unvote
##Vote: Chris


I think you're better than this as town.

Town

VI
pez
Tom
Sbell

Townish

Scare
dowolf

????
plum
red

Scumish
Death (I'm a little unsure, he capitalized at the perfect time on my weakness but I don't know if I give scum death enough credit to see and strike like that)
Phoenix
KBM

Scummy
Scep
Chris


Nope.jpg

Not buying the Chris is good so he obviously knows I am Town argument when the argument is actually good.

Like if this was a "Chris but" crusade I could buy it
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 7:33:16 PM
#77
pezloco posted...
ScareChan posted...
If you are scum I feel worse on death again since you are just using him to build your case for you

but yeah oddity should claim ##Vote: Oddity


Plum, if he was forcing a claim he seems to have some idea of votals even if he didn't know exactly how many. I don't think one says much about the other.



True
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 6:45:28 PM
#44
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 6:19:37 PM
#42
Actually, I think Scare and Oddity are in fact tied together partially.


Thinking about that vote by Scare on Oddity.

Town Oddity/Scum Scare makes this an absolutely horrible vote by scare. Oddity is the lynch leader and is likely to get lynched anyways. You still have several hours in the day where things could swing, and if Oddity is lynched you look completely awful. The immediate unvote indicates scare had no awareness of the votals at the time.

I think it is pretty safe to call this not the case

I think an oddity lynch would probably tell us more about scare than a scare lynch would tell us about oddity. If oddity flips town I'm going to throw it in reverse on him. He feels zoned out, but I never thought of him as an actively bad scum player.
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 6:12:27 PM
#39
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Yup Scare and Oddity, epic scum buddies???


I'm thinking so. Oddity's responses haven't thrilled me, but I am worried how quickly he has been piled on. I'm very interested in his next post
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 6:07:23 PM
#36
can I point out that scare was intune with the topics to post immediately when the new one came up but didn't post the 20 minutes prior or the 35 since?
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 6:04:06 PM
#34
Vengeful_KBM posted...
htaeD posted...
am I just tired, or did this 'dowolf is gonna die thing' come out of nowhere?


Hey, dowolf's the one that said it first.

masterplum posted...
Even if this is true, dowolf is in enough contention that it isn't completely farfetched to think KBM could have acted as Dowolf hypothesized.


How is zero votes "contention"?

dowolf posted...
Well I think we can all trust that vague memories of nondescript events from the distant past provide infallible truths about the present.


This is the definition of a gut read. Nobody said anything about infallible truths.

You're falling out of my top three town reads in record time.


Going to be honest. After I posted that I looked at the votes and literally "oh" 'd

I was hoping we could just move past this one.
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 6:02:23 PM
#28
dowolf posted...
Well I think we can all trust that vague memories of nondescript events from the distant past provide infallible truths about the present.


you asked if it ever happened.

what sort of answer were you expecting? If I asked you if anyone has ever done anything the answer is probably yes by sheer probability.

you are on a total wild goose chase
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 6:00:47 PM
#25
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Uh dowolf, we aren't lynching you today bud.


Even if this is true, dowolf is in enough contention that it isn't completely farfetched to think KBM could have acted as Dowolf hypothesized.
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 5:59:37 PM
#22
dowolf posted...
masterplum posted...
I am almost sure I caught you as scum for falling silent before

When?

DoomTheGyarados posted...


Sure, my literal thought "what kind of scum walks into the topic, buddies with dowolf or not, and says he is one of their 3 town reads."

Someone who thinks I'mma die soon and wants to look good in hindsight.


It was like 6 years ago
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 5:57:39 PM
#16
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 5:53:26 PM
#11
dowolf posted...
dowolf posted...
masterplum posted...

Dowolf popping in for a useless joke is probably a scum slip. I've made that mistake before where you are consciously not contributing as scum, but then a funny presents itself and you forget you're supposed to be not posting

So here's the question, guys: Is Plum actually that stupid, that he would go after me for exactly the same reasons scum went after me last game, when anyone who has played with me before knows that I do not fall silent as a scum tactic period, or is he scum?


Oh right. I read that and thought wtf were you talking about. I have no idea what your last game even was let alone the alignment or reasons for your lynch

if you are talking about the last game I was in I was a SK. I didn't give a crap who died during the day. Was the least of my worries.
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 5:38:04 PM
#6
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 3 - I am not going to battle to win
masterplum
07/20/17 5:33:51 PM
#3
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/20/17 5:28:00 PM
#462
On the phone in rush hour. Repost dowolf

dowolf posted...
hey plum.

please respond to my comments re: you building up an argument on me.

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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/20/17 5:10:06 PM
#448
Leafeon13N posted...
I hate when people get passive as fuck like Oddity when people are trying to kill them.


Sounds like he is at work
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/20/17 5:01:23 PM
#442
Second, I would like to talk to scare about his motivation

Why did you sign up for this game?
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/20/17 4:52:39 PM
#438
TopicFinal Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 32.5: Previous topic got sent to the Farplane
masterplum
07/20/17 12:36:39 PM
#410
Pull results

1x twin lance
2x masamune
2x stardust rod
4x platinum sword
1x physician staff
1x excalibur

my FFT synergy is already too good, so those kind of sucks. The FF5 synergy is sweet though

Oh, and the FF2 gloves for synergy

12 5*'s for 50 mythris is sweet
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TopicFinal Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 32.5: Previous topic got sent to the Farplane
masterplum
07/20/17 12:35:24 PM
#409
omg

Keepers choice 2 is currently 11/11 5*'s

GOGOGO

QUICK BEFORE THEY FIX IT
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/20/17 9:38:48 AM
#248
Quick read up. Deaths point was that odditys vote was arbitrary right?

Seems like as good of a reason as any to vote someone
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/20/17 7:27:48 AM
#209
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/20/17 7:13:32 AM
#204
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/20/17 6:00:32 AM
#201
I am completely in agreement that sceptile has been antagonistic this game

Which probably makes him Town.

Dowolf popping in for a useless joke is probably a scum slip. I've made that mistake before where you are consciously not contributing as scum, but then a funny presents itself and you forget you're supposed to be not posting
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/19/17 9:10:07 PM
#158
Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/19/17 8:44:40 PM
#128
Loving Chris this game. Which possibly means he is scum!


As an aside, When can we expect the bulletproof claim Chris? Is it going to be late day 1 or are you going to chance it later?
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/19/17 8:41:20 PM
#117
Sceptilesolar posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Town reads and scum reads are two very different things. I am not always the best at scum tells but my town tells are really strong!


I really don't see that. If you can't tell scum from town, I don't see how you can tell town from scum. It's zero-sum.

Besides, latching onto Town is something scum likes to do. That's why I think Oddity is scum. Even if it's rational to do it as Town, Town doesn't behave rationally anyway.


They are completely separate reads. Someone not acting Towny != acting scummy. If I went the entire day without posting that would not be towny, but it wouldn't be scummy either. It would just be suicidal
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/19/17 8:37:01 PM
#107
Sceptilesolar posted...
masterplum posted...
People would be better if they realized they were bad at the game and just followed people they had Town tells on


If they're bad at the game then they shouldn't be trusting their Town tells so readily...


Then just listen to good players and take the 70% chance
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/19/17 8:35:27 PM
#102
Sceptilesolar posted...
##Unvote
##Vote: Oddity


Everything you are saying reads so badly to me. You posted a bad scum list, are flip-flopping a bunch, and are really willing to buy arguments that you don't believe or even understand and then use those arguments as a reason for suspicion.

I mean, really. You can't keep piggybacking on other people's arguments and then not defending them because you 'put faith in others' arguments'. That's NOT a town attitude.



Yes it is.

People would be better if they realized they were bad at the game and just followed people they had Town tells on
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/19/17 8:34:02 PM
#97
For some reason I am having a really hard time following this conversation between oddity and Chris

Not sure if because I am sick or it is confusing
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/19/17 8:26:17 PM
#82
Scare doubling down is also my sticking point with him. I can see him not liking me initially, but doubling down that I certainly must have seen this not reading PM conversation is baffling.

I can't for the life of me figure out why he would think I would lie about it. Then he morphed that into a "well, he shouldn't have done it anyways"

It all seems so bizarre. I'm not a fan of the tunneling argument usually, but it feels like tunneling to a T
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/19/17 8:08:54 PM
#52
Lolo_Guru posted...
masterplum posted...
Can we not lynch the new guy day 1 for the umpteenth time.


who's the new guy in this game


Is Phoenix not new?
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 2 - My life came like dew
masterplum
07/19/17 7:54:38 PM
#28
Can we not lynch the new guy day 1 for the umpteenth time.

I will vote anyone not Chris over him
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Topic~~Japanese History~~ Mafia Topic 1 - The War Begins
masterplum
07/19/17 5:40:19 PM
#389
htaeD posted...
Phoenix-Smasher posted...
I can see the concern. Between today and yesterday I haven't been the most active. Tomorrow should be better for that though--it's my day off.


it'd be more easy to find a mafiaplayer who doesnt have a job nowadays


My initial reaction was "yea, we all must be in our mid 20's by now"

Then I realized I'm 28.

Huh. Not exactly mid 20's anymore.


Anyways, scare has still yet to answer the pivotal question of why he thinks me lying about reading the PM thing makes any sense.

Not that I COULD lie. But why would I as either alignment?
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