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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 11:24:17 PM
#303
Kirby321 posted...
No other town power has flipped. With Plum, Isquen, and Hb protecting each other, might as well expedite things by backing up the Cop. Seems logical to me.
2 of the last 3 scum are likely godfathers.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 11:23:20 PM
#301
Yoshimitsu, Town Death Stopper

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 11:20:05 PM
#300
Why would you take Lopen's role, Mzero? Doesn't seem like a good usage of your role.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 11:07:20 PM
#298
Red would you like to finish off the mass?

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 11:06:42 PM
#297
MZero posted...
touche

Mokujin, Town Backup. Can choose any dead town and inherit their powers. Of course, I couldn't last night because only vanillas had flipped but I was going to take Lopen's powers tonight
That's a very nice power to have.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 10:38:51 PM
#293
MZero posted...
you first
I asked first and said please.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 10:26:17 PM
#290
MZero posted...
Mokujin
mzero claim for me please

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 10:13:06 PM
#287
EDumey posted...
I really feel like Peaf's post in 4.108 was a goldmine of info.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80399075/972581668

Corrik, if you're around, I'd like you to analyze that post in particular knowing Peaf's alignment, and your understanding of how Kirby is almost definitely not G-Corp.
I believe he is doing a true read on Kirby thinking he is scum for the other team. I believe he is also rule of 3ing with Abacus, death, and whoever else he had there and death is the scum.

I believe he elsewhere calls out 4 people together and death is the likely one again there.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:29:50 PM
#231
masterplum posted...
Uhhh

Well that role is broken as hell

If town has no vig and no BP its possible

But make no mistake that is one of the strongest roles Ive ever seen
If confirmed it probably has to be town. Mishima had a roleblocker and g Corp had a role Thief.

It's redundant for them.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:28:25 PM
#229
EDumey posted...
My role doesn't specifically mention kills, just says "any action." so I would assume it's kills as well. I don't have a problem with using my night action as directed.
You could ask.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:14:29 PM
#226
Plum save isquen. Isquen watch Dumey. Dumey redirect to Plum. I'm thinking this is broken.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:12:28 PM
#225
1. Any necessary and hopefully unlikely host intervention
2. Strongman/poison
3. Any ability for which it convenient to act early such as recruiter, neighborizer or backup.
4. Roleblocking
5. Any form for redirection
6. Role stealing
7. Any form for kidnapping or commuting
8. Anything that does not fall into the other categories
9. Regular killing abilities

Mishima has a way around that role, but it supersedes G Corp. Idk man

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:09:33 PM
#224
@mzero

Claim

@red13n

Claim

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:07:50 PM
#223
So if plum is doctor and dumey is that... and I'm me...

Scum can't win without a strongman shot. And watcher is pretty much broken as well.

What

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:03:36 PM
#222
EDumey posted...
I mean with two shots per night, I interpret it as a role you'd want to keep hidden so you can hopefully redirect one of the shots onto scum. Now that I'm claimed, the "cool" factor of using the role as an outplay is gone. But I weighed the pros and cons of playing coy with it and decided to not be difficult about things.
Oh absolutely not then. Dumey is scum. No way that role can redirect shots. Actions maybe but shots? It's a serial killer Bulletproof basically.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:02:44 PM
#221
I mean, Dumeys power is super conformable. But, it doesn't have to really be town either.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:02:13 PM
#220
htaeD posted...
Also I think I have seen roles like that before, but I may be thinking of something else.
I suppose its provable either way

I dont know why HB wouldnt just claim that yesterday, but thats neither here nor there
Cowabunga

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 1:46:09 PM
#206
As I stated before, Lea and Red being scum together seems extremely extremely unlikely to the point of just being a straight up nope.

Kirby321 posted...
Sure. I think the case is stronger on Lea and Red, but I can't deny the slip that Corrik caught.

##Unvote
##Vote: Death

Actually, thinking about it... why did the Mishima Zaibatsu shoot Peaf? Did they think he was town when other people who were seen as townier at the time (such as Lea) were clear shots after Isquen and Lopen both claimed power roles?

Death said that scum teams this small should be aware that another scum team exists. I don't think that logic makes any sense inherently... which makes me think Death perspective slipped there. If both scum factions were aware of each other from the start, then Mishima Zaibatsu being down two players probably makes them more willing to hunt for the opposite faction. Hence, Peaf's death.

I'm willing to believe Death is the last Mishima Zaibatsu member (assuming Ulti's slip against Sbell truly indicates that each team is only three members) and Lea and Red are G-Corp

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 1:37:23 PM
#203
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

You keep telling people to stop considering you good and then get upset cuz I said your play hasn't been flattering? Everything that made you town was specifically in relation to Ulti, which is now NAI besides you aren't Mishima.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 1:00:08 PM
#196
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Had you at town until today. Interesting. Your woe is me is in overdrive right now.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 12:27:30 PM
#194
Lea looking bad right now.

Still feeling good about

G Corp
Death
Lea

Mishima
Kirby

VA remains a wild card. And my patience will seriously sour soon with the unclaimed if they stay this way. There is no reason to do so. Scum is being absolutely rolled right now.

Neither Mzero, Red, or HB has done enough to have a town read on them to be considered above claiming.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 11:19:50 AM
#182
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I just said I don't think he is the reason Ben died.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 10:59:32 AM
#177
I'm also guessing Mishima specifically night 1 didn't know there was 2 scum teams, while G Corp did. Thus, to Mishima, Sbell probably looks mortally confirmed town (ulti seemed irritated about it when I said Sbell was town) and thus figured to take him off the board then.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 10:57:21 AM
#176
Kirby321 posted...
Now this is the Corrik with a town power role that I remember. Good stuff, Corrik.

Any theories on why Ben and Sbell were the first nightkills?
Well, you have the Ulti is petty at Sbell kill option.

You have the Ben was killed by Mishima because he made the soul read Kirby was scum unfortunately.

I'd err that Mishima killed Sbell due to Ulti calling the shots. Ben was killed by G Corp.

G Corp also stole from Lopen while Mishima had no roleblock. They probably stayed away from me because I was afk. Lea and me are likely the biggest save options regardless, possibly red. While Lea is probably scum, this probably gave a lot of sway to avoid these 3 due to riskiness of the situation from the start.

Thus, Sbell and Ben were probably safe unclaimed to target that had little to no risk of being saved.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 9:58:26 AM
#174
MZero posted...
Mokujin
A Stump. Interesting. Okay.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 9:42:50 AM
#170
Mzero claim, please. For me. I am asking nicely.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 9:38:18 AM
#167
masterplum posted...
You aren't dying corrik. I give you permission to do this tomorrow
Saving me is a bad save. Not necessary.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 9:18:45 AM
#165
masterplum posted...
Nah, probably still power out there
Exactly. Let's confirm town and complete this sweep.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 7:44:13 AM
#162
3 last people claim and let's kill death. Thanks

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:39:15 AM
#153


masterplum posted...
Now this is interesting.

IGCD is the one that jumps out to me but he could just be bad town.

Thinking Corrik is probably scum too yeah. His half defense of Ulti could be him trying to put up a defense without actually committing

Sbell kill has to be third party right? No way scum uses a double kill on sbell. Thats also interesting. Who was thinking sbell was scum

Now there is a lot to work with here

htaeD posted...
But you are right in that I dont think either shot came from a townvig.
I should hope not

htaeD posted...
Could also be another secret scum member again.
Or a cult.. though I dont know if that fits as much with this flavor.

Plum.is the one who immediately jumps to 2 scum teams. He presents the idea of 3rd party kill. Death jumps to town vig. Peaf is present and aids in this discussion. Lea is present but mostly avoids it.

I do want to point this out though...

Day 2 beginning of the day.

htaeD posted...
Could also be another secret scum member again.
Or a cult.. though I dont know if that fits as much with this flavor.

day 3
htaeD posted...
Wouldn't scum have to know another scumteam exists if their team was small?


Death forgot he played dumb earlier day 2 to downplay the possibility of 2 scum teams.

The secret scum member idea actually floats out the possibility of a small scum team (which he shouldn't know at that point anyways).

Death is scum.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:19:37 AM
#152
Also, I believe someone said scum would know 2 scum teams existed based on size. This is erroneous, but I also believe one of the tells on walls people mentioned was that he stated the second night kill was a possible town vig and not a second scum kill? Correct me if wrong on person so we can kill them now.

That suggests scum wasn't sure where second shot came from and unsure of 2nd scum team.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:16:08 AM
#151
Also it would have really behooved GCorp to want the mass claim day 2. Realizing Mishima exists. Wanting to know who to steal actions from. Having a ninja left and narrowing down Mishima.

Peaf claims early. Lea points this out, but Lea is also aware of that meta herself and likely would have pointed out that to her team.

G Corp has a lot of incentive to push the mass via their own claims. Town has more reason to balk here. Mishima has no reason to balk either likely being a godfather and ninja left.

The game is low town power right now compared to what scum has flipped. I suspect a lot of the unclaimed have powers of some sort and are town.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:09:55 AM
#149
Tldr Red and Lea aren't G Corp together. Red could be g Corp or Lea but not together.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 4:06:54 AM
#148
Lopen would be yelling it's Lea and Red right now. And that's an interesting idea too.

So let's consider this. And ignore the Lea end of it because it's actually extraneous.

Lopens scan of Red is stolen by peaf. If peaf flips, lopen gets it back. Now we know that the likelihood of reds scan was town if he is not indeed G Corp. Last Mishima is likely godfather anyways.

So why did Lopen get shot by G Corp?

Well, there is that the Watcher was basically required to watch plum. Plum was basically required to save isquen. So, you could argue that they wanted to avoid this and hit into claimed power off this. This doesn't work because they had a ninja. And they had a strongman. They could have strongmanned through a doctor save on isquen. They could have ninjad and strongmanned through plum.

So why again kill the town cop. They could have just stole his scan again right and strongmanned or ninjad their kill.

Well...

1. Lopen suspected Lea heavily and was likely the cop scan.
2. If Peaf dies, Lopen gets the scan back on Red.
3. They preferred to steal the watcher result than the cop scan and rather than kill the watcher due to helping them find scum and/or resolve town powers.

This could also explain again why G Corp didn't kill Red. Because Red is G Corp. Its a possibility and could go down the angle that Red and Lea are G Corp together. However, if so, one of these is likely godfather. Which if Red, they have nothing to fear about Lopen getting his result back. Or if not Red, Lea woulda scanned town anyways and been beneficial for Lopen to remain alive to scan godfather Lea.

Thus, this team is too tidy and likely incorrect.

I feel it is likelier Red scans inno and G Corp didn't think it was worth the shot. Lea scans guilty. Death is the godfather for G Corp.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:53:50 AM
#146
Corrik and G-Corp After Dark Special.

<333

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:52:24 AM
#145
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Yes very suspect indeed. However, I am still good with where I am at atm. The only thing pointing to you being town was the interaction with Ulti which turned out to be null for your alignment due to multiple scum teams. Nothing else is very flattering regarding your play this game.

Lopen definitely went tinfoil, but he may not be off entirely. He is very good for getting to x via a ridiculous amount of bullshit in between that makes no sense to where he ended up.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:46:40 AM
#139
htaeD posted...
You said I did not claim early as if it was a general context-less habit.


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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:45:18 AM
#137
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Why would you be worried about a potential sudden death where you could have changed your vote then anyways. It reeks of being worried death could get sniped, specifically.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:43:38 AM
#135
Mzero and Violent are wild cards here. I need to look at them more specifically, but I like where I am atm.


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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:41:56 AM
#134
htaeD posted...
Corrik you are not my mom either, I said you were thinking differently in the sense that you apparently believe I never claim easily as town when I am sure I have done so.

A masclaim condoned by many players is different from you just asking me to claim by myself anyway
"You would have been better off arguing different context"

Death: "well the context was different"

Great conversation.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:39:30 AM
#132
For the record, I am almost coming around entirely to Lea and Death are G Corp and Kirby is Mishima, regardless of that.

Lea, why did you last second vote wallz? Break down how it went in your mind.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:35:35 AM
#129
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

You are correct. Why do you know the exact post I was referencing without me having quoted it?

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:32:35 AM
#128
htaeD posted...
Maybe, but Peaf knew Nina existed.

Or is Nina considered good enough to not always be scum?
Could be third party. Could be town.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:31:57 AM
#126
htaeD posted...
Oh you misread me

This is the part that is not true at all.
You misread me. You responded to why I voted you and told me it was wrong. When I asked why you said I was wrong. You said because I thought differently and you aren't my mom.

Just stop. It's weird.

You refuse to claim as town all the time. You even precluded your claim with justification for doing so. "Well, I ain't power so...". But, of course, that isn't also true and presents the conundrum that if you would only not claim as town power that you implicitly claim town power everytime you refuse to claim anyways.

You especially hate claiming for me in general when I ask you.

Nothing I said is wrong. You would have been better off arguing that the context was different than usual.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:29:05 AM
#124
htaeD posted...
Wouldn't scum have to know another scumteam exists if their team was small?
No. They could suspect, but they wouldn't know. There is other possibilities that exist.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:27:43 AM
#122
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



Lea keeps making these man what if ulti is town posts right before ulti flips.

For what it is worth.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:24:40 AM
#120
htaeD posted...
Because you think otherwise?
I am not your mom Corrik.
You just told me you know why I do what I do more than I know. So, I figured you were or something.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:24:15 AM
#119
Peace___Frog posted...
Ulti/death/hb/kirby/? Pack it up folks


One of these is definitely G Corp and I know it's not Kirby or Ulti.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:19:39 AM
#117
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



Just for the record, this may be the exact Mishima team perfectly. I could take this two ways. 1 it's random but precludes all G Corp members from someone protecting their small team without knowing of the second team or 2. She suspects the second team would exist and I expect this accuracy with knowing the alignments of all of G Corp to narrow from the field of suspects.

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TopicTekken Mafia Topic 7 - Death by Degrees
Corrik7
04/05/23 3:16:43 AM
#116
red13n posted...
Also annoyed that scum gained a Strongman for town doing good.
Who cares. They don't have it now anyways and it didn't matter.

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