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Comes out tonight at 3 AM EDT on Disney+.

Finally back after 2.5 years. Hyped as fuck. Topic will also have The Book of Boba Fett spoilers.

__aCEr__ posted...

I'm sure Rebel will be back but he isn't like other frequently banned users who hop back on in three days.

The last couple of times he's gotten the hammer he's taken long breaks from this place.

This is bullshit. After he got his main account banned, he spent over a year going through dozens of alts almost weekly. Some wouldn't even last a day or two before he'd lose it and then just return the next day.

vycebrand2 posted...

He put himself in that position where he had to do that, Gobby. It's like if I went to GA(I live in FL) decided to show off my big bad rifle where there is civil unrest and not expect the repcussions of doing so. There is word for Kyle and it would definitely get me banned here.

The gun had nothing to do with him being attacked. People keep making up this headcanon about everything happening in reaction to his gun. It has nothing to do with it. They spent a lot of time on this in the trial. He pissed off an unhinged guy who was threatening people all night, by putting out the trash fires he had started.

All the fault is on Rosenbaum. He had just been in the hospital for a suicide attempt and then went straight to the protest after his discharge and started causing trouble. The doctor probably told him to go home, not downtown.

The equivalent would be if you went somewhere with a gun and tons of other people had guns there and you saw some shit on fire, tried putting it out and then some unhinged guy decided to jump you because he was the one who started the fire.

The curfew thing is also completely irrelevant since nobody was being sent home and they weren't checking ID. The cops were allowing everybody to be there.

Constantly pushing misinformation and irrelevant headcanon makes a lot of you look like huge hypocrites.

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"Insidious intentions" is completely unsupported. They spent a significant amount of time trying to find anything that would support it at the trial, and it all backfired on the prosecution because their own witnesses testified in favor of Rittenhouse. This was not a case of there being insufficient evidence. The evidence and actions directly contradicted it.

Guys, stop feeding mario. He's been saying completely dumb shit for years at this point.

gmanthebest posted...

It's amazing how many people just straight up refuse to look at the facts of the case and just keep regurgitating propaganda that came out before the facts were established.

That's with everything nowadays. People are just too stubborn to see anything that contradicts what they believe, so they'll do all sort of gymnastics that don't hold up under the tinest bit of scrutiny. It's making everything stupider.

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Yes, the prosecution's witnesses testified this independent of anything he said. We also have eyewitnesses, pictures and videos of him walking around with a fire extinguisher and putting them out.

TMOG posted...

So your argument is that Murderhouse wasn't wandering around a volatile scene holding a large gun

It had nothing to do with why everything went down as established by the facts of the case. He was attacked because he put out trash fires that Rosenbaum was starting. This pissed Rosenbaum off, causing him to attack.

There was no corroborating evidence from anyone saying it was done because anybody was scared of Rittenhouse or his gun. There was however plenty of witness testimony saying that he was providing first aid to protestors and putting out fires.

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Gaige is not going to win because Rittenhouse informed him that he was going to the police, and Gaige still did all that and then pointed the gun at him.

TMOG posted...

It's also hard to claim it if you intentionally went wandering around a volatile scene holding a large gun so you could intimidate people, but we all saw how that played out.

This is not what happened. Please stop spreading misinformation.

The whole boycott is kinda full of hypocrisy, especially the bullying and harassment, so this isn't really surprising.

Fair, next.

Proto_Spark posted...

lol wtf. I can't imagine password sharing is that big of an issue for Netflix.

I give it like a month before they go back on that. If I can't piggyback off of my family's Netflix, I will absolutely just stop using it.

This is only going to lead to Stranger Things season 6 or whatever being highly pirated.

"An estimated 222 million paying households share passwords with an additional 100 million households that Netflix wants to monetize."

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/12/21/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-early-2023/

Because it's obviously anti-consumer bullshit. Especially if you're paying for a certain number of screens. It shouldn't matter where it's used.

Also because every other fucker is gonna copy them soon enough.

I don't think the Asian education system is a model to look up to. There are lots of negatives, even if it produces the desired results. Some of those results are only there as requirements to a harsh work culture, which itself has a lot of psychological negatives. These things just tend to bleed out in other ways.

the_pika posted...

please tell us why you think he acted in self defense, legally speaking

Maybe watch the fucking trial. Rosenbaum attacked Rittenhouse because he put out a trash can fire Rosenbaum had started. There was no intimidation factor. The whole point of the trial was to establish evidence for this and instead, evidence to the contrary was established. Almost every witness brought there by the prosecution testified that nobody felt threatened and there wasn't some attempt to confront Rittenhouse. Witnesses testified he was providing them with first aid or walking around.

With Huber and Grosskreutz, they were only going on incomplete information, and it's one of those cases where whoever shot first would probably be in self defense. Had Grosskreutz shot Rittenhouse, Grosskreutz would probably be in self defense too because of the extenuating circumstances of the entire situation. However, Rttenhouse shot first, and since he was being attacked, even if it based on false information, it would still be self defense for him as well.

But Rosenbaum's actions were 100% on him and caused the entire thing and he did it because he got mad someone put his fires out.

This is like the McDonald's hot coffee case where even after 3 decades, people still believe the lady did it for greed. Idiots are still bringing up the crossing state lines thing like it means anything when he lived a mile from the state line and went to the equivalent of going from downtown to uptown Manhattan, a single borough out of 5 in NYC.

32pus

I tried this back when it was released and it was pretty meh.

How is it in 2023? Is everything free now?

TMOG posted...

So then you saw how the mob only charged him after his first murder, which happened because he was walking around (after curfew) with a gun (which he was not legally allowed to own and carried across state lines) like a dipshit, and one of the people reacted to the obvious attempt at intimidation

You clearly didn't watch the trial and are spreading misinformation because this is not what happened.

That's extremely fucked up. I've taken care of newborn kittens and had some die on me and it broke my heart.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if it was legal in parts of the country. It's a common way some farmers get rid of kittens.

I liked it, but honestly, Peacemaker felt so much better, that it completely overshadowed it for me.

Makeveli_lives posted...

Again what normal user is using that much space for anything. And even then, preorder only, the 22 line doubled space for free on top of the free shit.

My post was to explain that 128 is not enough for even normal users as apps have gotten larger and larger and the system already takes up ~30 GB alone. Add that up with larger photos and videos that don't get uploaded for free anymore, and it's pretty clear to see that this affects even casual users. Something that could be remedied with a $30 card, but now requires a whole new phone.

I'm not sure what a preorder bonus has anything to do with this since it's a limited time deal at a specific place.

It was a strictly anti-consumer decision to remove it, so I'm not sure why you're making excuses for it.

Makeveli_lives posted...

Every Galaxy preoder came with 200 bucks in credit for the last like 3 years. Use that credit to get a pair of wireless buds and move on from the headphone jack. As for SD cards, wtf is any casual user doing that 128 isn't enough on top of the free cloud storage they offer? And if it's 4k photo and footage, you would transfer it all to a computer or ssd anyway to work on it so that's also a non issue tbh.

The removal of the 3.5 was compensated with wireless. It's pretty great.

The removal of the MicroSD was not compensated in any way. Storage did not go up for the same price, and Google removed free Photos uploads right after. Apps have only gotten larger and the system only takes up more and more.

Having to use a PC to micromanage storage when you could have just thrown in a 512 MicroSD in your phone is a horrible alternative.

Kami_no_Kami posted...

Guys. We can hate Rittenhouse without lying about him breaking any laws.

As a comparison, Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis have been kidnapping-but-not-legally-kidnapping migrants and we can find that detestable without claiming they broke laws (in their case it actually makes it worse that they purposely exploited loopholes in the law to make people suffer for political stunts rather than just lucking out like Rittenhouse did).

Lucking out? The prosecution threw everything at him to the point that their own witnesses ended up strengthening the defense's case.

It would have likely gone the same every time. The only thing that Binger didn't do was bring in a key witness that was right there. If that witness had crucial contradictory information, he would have produced him. Instead, he kept him locked up and purposely delayed his trial till after Rittenhouse's.

gunplagirl posted...

Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't do it. Everyone knows OJ is a killer but the prosecution failed to convict him. Using the law as some absolute is effing moronic. Especially when there's states where it won't be long before transgender people won't even be allowed to take hormones anymore without breaking the law.

This sounds like conspiracy theory logic. Nothing backing it up.

GranolaPanic posted...

It was mentioned in the trial. Kyle Rittenhouse was allowed into a restricted area by police based on his false credentials. He wasnt really there to give medical attention. The only medical training he had was to administer CPR, yet he acted like he was a combat medic.

I don't remember anything in the trial about a restricted area which cops were screening and he was in violation of outside curfew. How did non-EMTs get into the same area? Did they tell the cops they were left wing protestors here to protest cops? Lol.

What I do remember is Binger asking him if he lied to the reporter McGinnis about being an EMT and Rittenhouse saying yes.

Binger brought it up again in the closing argument to basically go on about how shameful it was to lie about being an EMT and how it was an insult to real EMTs.

This was the same closing argument with gems like "Rittenhouse could have fired warning shots to keep Rosenbaum away."

Something that is clearly illegal and would have put random people at risk instead of the aggressive guy clearly chasing him.

Anyway, the fire chief of the place that Rittenhouse took the program came out and said that they were trained with both Fire and EMS skills, but were not certified. Only the instructors were certified.

So, I'm not seeing the jump from lying about the extent of his skills to "I lied because I totally came there to find an excuse to kill people."

Gamespoht posted...

Of course this shit got off topic since mfs will defend Kyle

Being a pedo is disgusting, but the mf did his little hero stunt bc he was actively looking for trouble and someone to shoot, this nerd is cringe asf and him being a martyr for conservatives is even worse

The thing about this case isn't "there's just not enough evidence so let's fill in the blanks with BS. You never know"

It's "there's evidence directly contradicting the BS"

Again, Rittenhouse was putting out fires and providing first aid to these "liberal protestors", who testified in court that he was doing this. He was attacked while not interacting with Rosenbaum in any way, and there's zero evidence Rosenbaum attacked him because he was afraid of the gun.

There's tons of evidence showing he did it because he got pissed Rittenhouse put out fires he started. I wouldn't be surprised some want to view putting out fires a "liberal" was starting as an aggressive act worthy of an attack.

Zikten posted...

The sex offender dying directly led to non sex offenders dying. It's still weird to be happy he died. His battle drew in innocent people who didn't know he was a sex offender and they got shot too. So no, I'm not happy that sex offender died because if Kyle had never fought with anyone, nobody would have died.

The survivors said they thought in that moment, they were fighting off a mass shooter. They didn't know what happened to spark the fighting and they didn't know the man fighting Kyle was a sex offender. They rushed in to fight off Kyle and got shot. I remember a woman claiming Kyle was about to kill her but her boyfriend took the bullet and died

You've been corrected several times on this, yet you continue to spread misinformation about the night.

You get pissed when people call you out for constantly posting unsourced nonsense, yet the question is, why do you continue doing this when you have Google at your fingertips to double check? There's not a single report of Rittenhouse about to shoot a woman and her BF taking the bullet for her. It's completely fabricated nonsense.

Zikten posted...

They had a reason to be there. They were trying to hold cops accountable for murdering black people

Kyle was just there to clean graffiti off buildings. Even if one wanted to do that, it's wise to wait til the next day and wipe it off when the protestors are gone. You don't clean it off 2 minutes after it went on, while the protestors ate staring at you

And you don't strap an illegal gun on your back to spread panic and intimidation

And yes it was illegal because 17 year olds are not allowed to own a gun like that

More misinformation. He was not cleaning graffiti 2 minutes after. He was doing it all day before the protests even started.

And the gun was legal. It takes a minute to double check these things my dude.

Also I haven't really seen any evidence Rosenbaum was there to protest anything. He walked out of a mental hospital, came to the area and just started threatening people and destroying shit.

GranolaPanic posted...

Legally and ethically speaking, he was in the wrong for lying to authorities about his medical credentials. He was there under false pretenses and had ulterior motives.

This was a protest. Not a formal cop sanctioned event. It doesn't matter what the cops thought or what false pretenses were given to them. They weren't screening people and then kicking them out. Anybody was allowed to be there. And tons of people there, including the people that attacked Rittenhouse, had guns. Also, lying about being a medic and then going ahead and giving people first aid is not proof of "ulterior motives"

Not sure why you posted this several times ITT thinking it was some kind of gotcha when it wasn't even really brought up at the trial. This is just more made up "but he crossed state lines" level shit.

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What about about it? It opened in 3.5k theaters, with 2k 3D. The first 12 days brought in $280 million here. 13 years later, 10 days in, and 2 is at $280 million. Tickets are like double the price now. Almost every theater also has 3D now. Avatar 2 is actually one of Disney's widest releases ever.

Some movies just don't do well in the US, but do amazing everywhere else. It's happened many times before.

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And it's not really an issue for the rest of the world. So if it's a big issue driving away sales in the US, then I'd like to see something backing that up.

Punished_Blinx posted...

Titanic and Avatar consistently made a lot of money over a long term to reach the records they had. Marvel movies are a lot more front loaded in comparison.

Way too early to call it.

I'm not really calling anything. It's doing bad in the US, but great in the rest of the world.

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I don't think those are relevant. They both opened in 4k screens and assuming everybody has to see it in 3D is silly. The international response also goes against that very notion.

No Way Home also came out during the height of Omicron.

I think all this is showing is that it's still popular outside the US.

Because it's doing pretty fucking bad over here. It did $55 million this entire weekend and did $130 million the first.

No Way Home did more in 3 days than Avatar has done in 10 days here.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Momoa has had conversations with Gunn about playing a different character. So while nothing is confirmed yet Aquaman is not going to be returning in its current form.

Aquaman not returning doesn't mean "Momoa has already been recast as a different character".

Tyranthraxus posted...

Momoa has already been recast as a different character. The release date of the movie is irrelevant.

I'm not really seeing anything online confirmed for any recasting.

None of that made sense and your history in this topic alone shows you hardly ever make sense or even know what you're talking about.

Zikten posted...

Him yelling Friendly is ironic because his only friends on that street that night, were the cops who all the protestors considered enemies.

Maybe him shouting friendly backfired and made the first attacker even more enraged. Probably was thinking "fuck you, you are no friend"

You should probably stop saying completely moronic shit like this as if it makes any sense.

FAQ-Checker posted...

Uh.... that actually may not be true. This got glossed over at the trial because they couldn't prove it, but I feel pretty confident that there was one point where Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at someone (I think it may have actually been Rosenbaum) and ordered them away from a car.

It wasn't glossed over. They spent a lot of time on it. It's just that.... It's a blurry blob.... And what the prosecution was claiming is the pointed gun continues to remain there even after Rittenhouse has moved away in the video.

They were just throwing shit on the wall with that one. Like the jokers in this topic have. It's ultimately boiled down to there being all these mysterious witnesses that were not called, but luckily saw him pointing his gun and threaten people. People also don't know what brandishing is because they spent a lot of time on that too. Everybody said he was walking with his gun pointed down and they established that's not brandishing.

The one witness that was right fucking there was locked up for that night, with his trial delayed 5 months after Rittenhouse's, and who the prosecution refused to call because they would have to give him immunity. They wouldn't even call his wife, who was also right there.

If they had something in such a giant case like that where their careers would skyrocket had they won, they would have used it. Especially when it was completely in Binger's hand. He was a direct witness. Instead almost every witness they brought ended up helping the defense.

The state of mind thing is just useless nonsense. Anybody would have reacted in the same way. It's not just because he had bloodlust on his mind or he saw his literal attackers as lesser humans. That's straight up delusional nonsense. The fact that he was screaming friendly shows that he himself felt like they were after the wrong person. If he had started shit with someone, you'd expect him to be saying things like "yo, chill out" instead of trying to ID himself.

People are just way too blinded and up their asses to admit this and instead have to create literal conspiracy theories about it.

Collat posted...

Well for one thing it was the defense that pushed for a mistrial of the use of the footage, and argued against using pinch zoom.

Footage was blurry and in the end, didn't prove anything definitive anyway. Hence not guilty.

They pushed for a mistrial over them not receiving the same quality copy of a single video, which ended up being about how it was sent (email vs Airdrop).

What COVxy is saying is that he doesn't actually give a fuck about anything. He wants to infer shit and throw people he believes are bad in jail regardless of any facts or anything.

Because maybe Rittenhouse could have said something to Rosenbaum to provoke him, which has completely zero basis in reality, but maybe.

Because there weren't tons of people there with guns out and nobody did shit. Nobody that knew Rosenbaum said anything about Rosenbaum wanting to attack Rittenhouse because of the gun. The evidence shows it was because of putting out the fire. Also, it's funny he keep bringing up all these witnesses that could have have given the prosecution a slam dunk.

Ultimately, just embarrassing shit for a guy with a PhD.

Hornezz posted...

He literally states his desire to shoot people, even specifies which gun he wants to use. There's no speculation whatsoever. How often do you think prosecution has a tape recording of a suspect saying "I hereby officially declare my intention of robbing this bank"? Expression of intent doesn't come more clear cut than this.

It would only be relevant if he shot the same people or shot people doing the same thing. Or if he had gone there and started shit and then shot somebody.

Here though, he was off minding his own business putting out trash fires, and then was ambushed by a crazy guy. It is completely fucking irrelevant to whether it was self defense or not.

This wasn't like him saying he's gonna kill his wife and a week later she ended up dead.

COVxy posted...

Idk, i think they deemed him "red shirt guy" or something ridiculous in the court case, presumably because they couldn't identify him.

Idk dude, if I told you that it would really get me off to murder your mother, and that I knew where she lived and could do so. And then your mother was murdered the next week. With the weapon I had said I would use, would you still think that such a statement is flimsy evidence? Let's say there's video evidence that she lunged at me first (but perhaps I said something about your well being to provoke her, and that couldn't possibly be caught on camera). I think maybe if you had any empathy towards the killed you might look at the situation differently. And maybe you wouldn't construct a wall of plausible deniability to let the murderer off the hook.

I think this type of statement informs us of where his mind was at. The fact that he would see people looting a store, and then say "damn, I wish I had my gun so I could murder those people", tells us that minimally killing looters is not something he thinks is serious. Maybe it's funny to him, maybe it's just fun. Either way, I wouldn't want that kid armed in any tense situation.

Nor do I think he thinks very much of the people looting. And the first step towards violence is dehumanization. Further backed by his affinity with the Proud Boys.

Lmao at this psychic just jumping to all sorts of irrelevant conclusions. The example is not even similar in any way to Rittenhouse, and if you think so, it just goes back to my original statement of you being too stubborn and up your ass.

All you've constructed is a wall of nonsense that says you want people thrown in jail for flimsy ass shit.

"He could have said something to him"

"Out of the dozens of witnesses, the one that wasn't called was the one who knew the truth"

Just stop. Just sounding more and more like Trumper logic.

COVxy posted...

Pretty sure there was at least one witness that did say that he was provoking people, saying that he was pointing his gun at people, though that witness didn't get called to the stand

Who? Why weren't they called to the stand by the prosecution then?

COVxy posted...

There it is, you aren't trying to reconstruct a likely understanding of the scenario. You are trying to reconstruct what he could be charged with within the system. I don't give a fuck about what you think a court should charge him with.

No, I don't want flimsy ass shit with no real evidence to be used to charge ANYONE.

Your psychic abilities are pretty trash dude.

Hornezz posted...

You're putting a lot of emphasis on this whole looters vs. not-looters. Rittenhouse did not use the word 'looters' at all when he expressed his desire to shoot people. What he said was: "Bro I wish I had my fucking AR. ld start shooting rounds at them."

So him expressing his intentions 15 days before doesn't count unless he says it while he's there? Really?

Rittenhouse's defense has acknowledged the video was real, that it was indeed Rittenhouse's voice and that he was referring to the AR that was eventually used in the shootings.

COVxy posted...

If what I said wasn't accurate, you would actually weigh the evidence that he literally stated he wished he had his gun on him a week before so he could shoot up some looters.

"That's just speculation! Thrown out of court as prejudicial!"

Well, perhaps it's "prejudicial" because it actually informs us about his state of mind and motives.

An honest person might say "hey, that looks bad". Not just wave it off because you feel like you can on technicality.

Because he was there all fucking day and dozens of witnesses testified that he did not provoke anybody. They also testified he was cleaning shit all day. If he was really looking for shit to go down, he had ample opportunity to do something, but he didn't. If he was that gung ho about it, he wouldn't have been literally administering first aid and putting out fires for several hours before being jumped out of nowhere by a guy that serveral witnesses testified was causing tons of problems.

That comment is way too flimsy to link to a fucking ambush, while he runs away yelling "friendly" after putting out a fire.

That's the point that you psychics don't get. You can't throw people away for literal decades over speculative intent.

COVxy posted...

The people who defend Kyle Rittenhouse are the same people who in grade school would fuck with other kids just to the point of plausible deniablity, and then play innocent when the teacher noticed anything. They know they are morally bankrupt, but it's about the other side not being about to "prove" it.

Meanwhile, there are those of us that will just call a spade a spade. Because we can use our brains to make reasonable inferences.

Lmao at the projection. Almost exactly the type of shit Trump supporters say about the elections or vaccines.

"Just trust us, everybody else is too dumb to know the truth, even if they have the evidence backing it. We don't need evidence because we see through all the bullshit"

DoesntMatter posted...

lmfao what a fucking ridiculous narrative

you don't come strapped with a rifle you had to jump through a shitload of hoops to even obtain and be in possession of if your intent is only to "put out fires" and "offer aid" to people.

This is called speculation and has no place in the justice system.

DoesntMatter posted...

open carry laws are intentionally provocative as well. the literal only reason they exist is so manbaby gun nuts can be justified walking around while strapped and feel like they are winning the dick-measuring contest.

Ok, but irrelevant to the point.

DoesntMatter posted...

so he can shoot up looters, like he explicitly stated he desired to do

Again, this is called speculation. You can't put people away with completely unrelated shit because he did not go and shoot looters nor did he ever signal while he was there that he was going to. It has zero basis in reality since there's zero factual evidence.

People hate this guy so much that they are arguing horribly regressive approaches to the justice system. Especially when the entire fucking protest was to protest how bad cops and the justice system are.

And people now just want random speculation and straight up misinformation to be used to put this guy away.

Because something like that hasn't already been a huge problem.

DoesntMatter posted...

he was carrying around a rifle in the middle of a volatile situation. carrying around a gun is inherently a provocative action.

It doesn't in an open carry state, especially when TONS of people there were doing the same thing and weren't attacked.

Also, it was never shown anywhere that he was in fact attacked because of the gun. That is pure speculation with zero evidence.

DoesntMatter posted...

what lie would that be

You said he went to shoot up looters, which they weren't. He also didn't shoot them because they were looting, so the looting comment is irrelevant. He shot them because he was ambushed by a guy who had been acting unhinged all night, all because he put a fire out.

DoesntMatter posted...

i'm not defending anyone. by saying Kyle Rittenhouse was in the wrong, i'm not saying that anyone else in the situation was in the right. don't fucking put words in my mouth. if you go somewhere to loot or to burn down buildings, you are not in the right. if you bring a gun into a volatile situation where people are looting and burning shit down, you are not in the right. period

Which is all irrelevant to whether he was justified in shooting when he was chased, was screaming "friendly", then cornered with Rosenbaum about to take his gun.

All the evidence at the trial, including from the prosecution's own witnesses showed that Rittenhouse did not provoke anything. You can call him an idiot all you want, which he definitely is, but it's irrelevant to defending yourself when attacked and adding in all this speculative nonsense with absolutely nothing supporting it doesn't change that.

DoesntMatter posted...

false. the only people who are not living in reality anymore are the people who say he just went there to put out fires and render medical aid. a dumb kid who has no medical training and no firefighting training, who brought a gun into the middle of a volatile situation. was only there to help. do you even realize how fucking ridiculous you sound when you advance that bullshit narrative?

You just made up a clear lie. Yeah, you're the one not living in reality.

Also, that's exactly what the guy who was about to shoot Rittenhouse did. He brought a gun and was there to play medic. By that moronic logic, he too was looking to start shit and kill someone.

DoesntMatter posted...

only in America can someone outright admit on video that he wants to go and shoot up looters, then a week later actually go and shoot up looters, and not only get off scot-free in a court of law but also have completely random internet weirdos defend him

They were not looters and he did not shoot them because they were looting. Lmao, holy shit. This post sounds just like Trump supporters when talking about elections or vaccines. Just not even living in reality anymore.

Zikten posted...

Before the trial, survivors said what I said. Maybe it got disproven at the trial. It wasn't "somewhere " it was videos on YouTube and news articles. The news reported what the survivors said.

Zikten posted...

The oath statements had not happened yet. I did not watch the trial. I am referring to claims by witnesses and survivors after rhe attack but before the trial happened

Zikten posted...

Some people might sill feel threatened just from him having a gun strapped to his back

A bunch of unarmed liberal protestors on the street angry about cops murdering citizens

Vs 1 single conservative with a scary looking gun

I can understand why some protestors would would to fight him

Zikten posted...

If he didn't have a gun and didn't act like a conservative, nobody would mess with him. Did he not talk to anyone? He must have spoken to people while walking around and let slip his political opinion. Somehow people figured out he was on the side of the cops.

Zikten posted...

Really, it would have been very easy to avoid all this. He could have just never gone out that night. Just stayed home and minded his own business

So you're in here arguing based off information you heard almost 2.5 years ago, from sources you can't back up and did not even bother updating yourself in that time?

You say you didn't watch the trial and then you continue to triple down on completely made up shit with no evidence at all.

There were tons of people there with guns from both sides. There were tons of people there with big ass guns. There's videos of almost the entire night. People are just kind loitering and walking around. It wasn't some super tense situation besides one situation earlier.

Nowhere was it ever shown or proven that Rosenbaum even attacked Rittenhouse because of his gun or anything. What was shown was that Rosenblum was acting completely unhinged all night and that he attacked Rittenhouse because Rittenhouse had just extinguished a fire Rosenbaum had set.

It's embarrassing you guys are this fucking disingenuous with this.

Zikten posted...

I'm going if what I heard survivors saying when interviewed

"I heard it somewhere. Trust me bro"

Zikten posted...

If they aren't using deadly force against you. But also if you spent hours before the battle walking around trying to provoke everyone, like Kyle did. Witnesses saw 1 conservative with a gun in a fight with some liberals who were unarmed. It's logical to think the bad guy is the guy you saw earlier acting violent

He could have ran away. And he probably would not have been attacked if he wasn't provoking people. I have no sympathy for him

He did not spend hours antagonizing people. Are you guys just thinking you can make obviously false shit up and hoping no one knows?

They spent the trial going over almost every single minute or the night since almost all of it was filmed. A good portion of the fucking trial was trying to prove he provoked someone, which they were completely unable to do despite tons of witnesses and footage.

You guys are literally spreading misinformation because you are just unable to cope.

loafy013 posted...

Like rittenhouse himself. Don't forget that one.

As the trial showed, his gun was legal. But that's not really a relevant point here regardless. He wouldn't lose the right to defend himself when cornered whether it was legal or illegal.

ooger posted...

Oh yeah, he totally wanted to help people. That's why he brought a gun./s

If you paid any attention to the trial, which you just made clear you didn't, all the evidence that was found was that he was trying to help, even if it was foolish and misguided. You can't even get the simple facts straight.

Guns are for both offense and defense. Something a lot of people are simply unable to grasp. Tons of people there had a gun, many illegally. Like the guys who tried to attack Rittenhouse.

Here's the thing. Maybe deep down he was playing 7D chess and his entire plan was to administer so much first aid and put out so many trash fires that he would eventually randomly get ambushed, just so he can risk killing people that could have easily killed him had he made one wrong move.

There is however zero evidence of this and I seriously question people that want to just start assuming without anything credible and have people thrown in jail for decades. That was the entire point of the trial. The prosecution tried their hardest to the point they were hit with several violations and unethical behavior and they still couldn't come up with anything.

ooger posted...

I hope that one day Kyle Rittenhouse will know in his heart of hearts, that he totally committed manslaughter.

The crazy thing about the Rittenhouse case is that it highlights how so many are just hypocrites that live up their assholes and start denying reality like Republicans do when their beliefs don't hold up. Shit like making up that he committed manslaughter with no understanding or anything to back it up.

ooger posted...

Nope.

He was an edgy teen who wanted to get into a fight, so he brought a gun across state lines to a protest.

I love the insane confidence CE says wrong shit with.

This guy just comes in and goes nope. Then just says something with no evidence or relevancy to a criminal case and then ends it with the completely irrelevant and disproven shit that many idiots were thinking was the ultimate gotcha "he crossed state lines!".

It's crazy how much people want to twist and pervert the justice system in this case, all so they could throw this moron in jail.

Batman is too busy smashing out Talia and Selina and sometimes Batgirl and Poison Ivy to give a fuck about supermodels.

Black Adam was eventually going to meet Shazam, that was never off the table. Just not immediately. It was definitely connected since the wizard Shazam was in Black Adam.

Interestingly, Black Adam connected to the wider DCEU way more than the Shazam movie did outside Superman in both. It also had Waller as well as Harcourt from Peacemaker.

And considering she's James Gunn's wife, The Rock is probably gonna be pretty pissed to find out that the only thing that survives all of this is Cena's show.

While Rings of Power had issues, I enjoyed it and I don't think current Disney can produce stuff on that level for TV.