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Question for you why are you sitting back and doing nothing?

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I never said I agree I said I get it but i don't nessisarily agree.

I get it. Maybe not the greatest move but it worked out

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I played the game and they threw a hissy fit basically.

But I think this makes Ben look worse than Han and that is where I'm at

ctesjbuvf posted...

Well, if you're town you can't know my alignment for sure now can you.

A good bunch of games have ended with a scum hammer since I came back here, including both you hosted even! I also won as scum a few games back when you and someone else voted Ben and we hammered him.

I get applying pressure and all but don't act like you don't understand the risk you're running.

I do but 1 vote is not alot and in the grand skeem of things I think of there was 3 scum they would have hammered unless you're one of the 3 soo if nothing else it provided alot of information did it not?

I think everyone being that worried over 1 vote is a bit excessive it also let me get a better read in Ben and Han so! If that is a big issue then idk what to tell you.

It's not risky to actually play the game. O don't like these responses to votes and reads playing scared is not going to win the game

ctesjbuvf posted...

Did you not think it was risky?

So either
- Sultan is scum
- There are just two scum
- Scum are afraid of anti-hammer powers

It can be more than 1 as well, but at least 1 must be true.

How is it risky if you're scum?

Another small hang up is people saying my read in BCT is wrong Han being one of them he has made a complete 180 if his read since Ben has replaced in.

Ben hasn't dont the usual stuff he does as scum but maybe he has grown as scum a bit and knows what gets him caught. BCT getting coached could really be a big thing to consider as well

Going all the way back To Chris v Han

Chris wasn't nessisarily going full force after Han but I dont think he makes a Bus look this obvious

What pisses me off im the only one actually trying to apply pressure and place votes down for reactions. Everyone is in such a panic they just stop actually playing and just freaking out every step of the way.

Ben's reaction feels forced. Han seems to be atleast using his votes to evaluate things and situations. Ben was freaking out at every little thing to @me 3 times when I was sleeping when it litterally takes 4 to Lynch someone my vote alone isn't going to do anything. If there is 3 left scum they would have piled on to win right?

So I'm thinking it's not 3 left but I could be wrong.

##unvote

fine.

Ben is flailing Han is flailing.

Ctes I can argue to have one more shot I suppose.

And I don't nessisarily agree with you in the Busdriver thing or when you didn't use the roleblock you didn't just say so.

But fine.ill just sit back and let others votes happen and evaluate from there beacuse for some reason I'm the only one trying to get pulled in every direction.

Not to mention we could be very lucky the game isn't over today and He saved the roleblock???

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Why Ctes over Ben?

1. Major thing, everytime I feel like i have a good thought about a lynch on you or Ben I get pulled back into this situation where I have a horrible feeling that i dont get what side is right and I'm getting thrown in the middle of it. What is the most confusing is why am I the one getting appealed to and not anyone else?

2. Ctes has been not being upfront with alot of what the has been doing. Seems to be waiting to come up with a plan to exsplain what the has been doing. If he is town he hasn't been helpful with how he has handled this role to where it looks scummy. Alot of things that seem not to be adding up with Ctes. Also looking at what he has been doing he has been riding on his "messed up vig shot" that he didn't even claim out the gate. I think I'd feel better about it if he didn't wait and try to make conspiracy about why scum would shoot Death. Then after all that he comes and claimed oh I messed up that was me.

Yeah he hinted at it was him but why has he consistently been hinding information.

Ctes has been anti town

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hahaha I love you Sultan.

But do you love me enough to join me though?

You just know what nah I'm not getting bullied by any of yall

##vote:Ctes

I'm following my gut and me read here.

Alright go for it you guys BenCT is probably scum and I'm probably over thinking it

HanOfTheNekos posted...

100% yes

Rereading everything he really only talks about what. Me and you Basically

You think Ben has been trying to pull a Sbell and try to pocket me like sbell did a couple games ago?

Well No one is gonna follow my thoughts on ctes.. and my other thoughts are a shot in the dark..

Han what is your thoughts in Ctes?

No youre probably right Ben I'm not nessisarily liking how Lea is paring us together. I'm still thing Ctes but willing to go Han. Dumey was my Original thought but he explained why im wrong and shited to why what I'm saying is more so Han

If BenCT is scum I feel pretty good about the way I read BCT. Ben not moving if that was BCT I'd be off his case beacuse majority of the reason I suspected BCT was his super weird reaction to being scanned by JC

Also I wish I was Rbed that would prove I'm town drunk

Actually I think Han might have made this argument but who's saying Ctes didn't use it on Ulti and scum shot Ulti?

My vote now switched to Ctes in theory

Ctes is now for going giving town info to solve the game...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

What about tipsy Town Han

Tipsy this early in the day? Well happy St. Patrick's day to you sir.

So yeah Dumey my argument on you is less solid than I thought so. Town points for you...

Chaeix posted...

this makes zero sense because clearly if scum thought they could kill Ulti they would kill Ulti

Yeah im an idiot lol.

EDumey posted...

Because there is approximately 0.005% chance that Ulti would not be protecting JC again just like the previous night.

We already have one claimed strongman, if I assumed they had a second, then I would think they use it on the BP Ulti, not JC.

So JC is not considered because he is the obvious Doc save.

Duh that makes sense

Also JC is confirmed town that be stupid for scum not to kill him over me or you Dumey

Dumey why would either of us be killed over JC? He could catch scum moving to a kill?

Leaving JC out of the 3 people to be lynched is what got me the most tbh

Dumey was also arguing that was arguing that Ulti wasn't shot twice wasn't it?

PunishedBen posted...

Ninja'd a bit there.

So if Sultan is the suspect, why would you and Dumey think he would be night killed last night?

Lol I didn't even see this Ben post

Ohh it's the you thinking I should have been killed over the doctor or the cop thing..

But I think you said that was before you saw that Ulti was BP for sure..

Hmm and 1 was about Han that I thought was you. It was during an argument with you when he is very positive about the Flavor scanner.

EDumey posted...

Sultan can you reiterate why you think I look scummy today? I feel like both things you called me out for were you misunderstanding my posts and I thought we clarified that.

This is possible. The Big part of it was you not reading the flip however alot of people did not read the flip.

The other part today I just haven't been getting the vibe you are town like days before might nit be the greatest reason but the role meta and the conspiracy of what scum did, it read as maybe you knew exactly what they did.

Let me find the post that threw me off the most.

1- ctes- alot of questions raised my eyes at ctes the last several days.
2- EDumey- today is where I think Dumey looks the most scummy and why I voted for Dumey.
3- Han- I really don't see it.
4- JC- Confirmed town
5- Lea- maybe?
6- PunishedBen (BCT)- did not move has been a bit all over the place but is trying to solve the game. Part of me don't think he has read most of the game though.

Han and Lea. Is interesting to think but not who I'm thinking.

I'm thinking dumey and someone.

Lea is an interesting one though I might have to look further but the main thing going for her is her murdering Chris and leading that charge to finally get Chris Lynched.

Dumey and Lea being scum scum would certainly be Lol. didn't we see this recently where 2 scum players claimed Mason's and were scum.

I wonder if there is any Ctes Dumey links out there

Also ctes didn't claim the kill right away he played conspiracy theory for it first. Alot of time to come up with a plan.

You read day 2 yet Ben? Ctes claiming the shot super late looks bad, him day 3 claiming the busdriver when we were on a goose chase for the busdriver is anti town exspecshally it being 1 use like ctes said.

PunishedBen posted...

I mean the simplest reason for Ctes to be town, that we shouldn't forget, is that scum can't just blow their kill on a known vanilla night 1. They have to go for power. Add to that the fact that death was a strong mislynch target. So that's two very big reasons why death never comes up in conversation. They don't formulate a fake "let's set up Ctes as a vig" plan over killing death. Because there was no conversation to kill death

Death is not the scum kill. It wouldn't be a hipster move. It would be a bad move. A Hipster kill is someone like Wallz.

Ctes is smart as hell, chris is smart as hell... using your 2nd kill on some one like Death makes you look Hella town.

Don't clear him on this alone.

Like you said it looks town and can be played off as.. oh I was sure he was scum.. kind of a deal.

The rest of his claim also doesn't sit well with me as well tbh.

Which thinking about it he did according to him "do nothing for a night".

But that would have been the night no the no kill. Right?

PunishedBen posted...

JC wanted to theorize how the night actions went down but I only tried to talk him down from it because he landed on you and Ctes as scum, which I don't agree with. And I also don't think JC is scum. So yes I don't think it's that important to know unless we can prove it incriminates someone specific, but i don't think it does and I think Ctes' explanation makes the most sense so far

If ctes and I were scum why wouldn't we just use our role blocker to kill Ulti n3 lol.

JC argument is actually kind of making me feel better about ctes.

though ctew could have more in his bag of Tricks like a untrackable or something and only claimed the Bus, the Vig, and the Roleblocker?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Sultan - they supposedly used the unblockable on N2. If they scanned Ulti (likely), it just means they wouldn't have scanned him N1 - or they decided Crescent was more important to kill and they didn't have a RB or a BD.

Right. That does make sense. Beacuse if they shot ulti night 1 unblockable night 2 unless they though JC was a better kill or something ulti should have died n3. Instead in a no kill.

So it would only make sense if they shot Crescent n1 and were blocked or scum ctes shot Death and use the scan you are talking about on Cresent to find she's miller doc think she is more valuable to kill then Doc.

Flavor scan ulti n2? Shot Crescent with the Unblockable

Shot Ulti the next 2 nights? Or shot at JC then shot and roleblock ulti n3?

Unless ctes us a scum Jack and scum wanted to use his other abilities 1st? And since his roleblock is limited?

But why would scum ctes claim roleblock as one of his roles then scum kill ulti?

Maybe im starting to over think this now too

ctesjbuvf posted...

Well we'll see if get told. I'll be away for a few hours now.

As a hologram you also have a 1 use bulletproof that works the same way as your own Doc Save, this will damage your holo-emitter and you will be susceptible to any future killing action.

Reading it it sounds like it is used on himself beacuse of thr You will be susceptible to any further killing action.

The wording is a bit odd with the fist part is odd though works the same way as your doc save??

That is kind of confusing

Question? If scum scanned Ulti and got his whole role, why didn't they use the unblockable in him? Or exsplain the no kill. And also his death. Someone said that scum had a roleblocker? Why wouldn't they use this on Ulti to kill whoever they wanted? Why wouldn't they use it on JC to avoid being tracked. I think we are thinking way to outside the box here.

Who is leading these arguments Ben and JC?

JC is basically confirmed. And Ben didn't move. Unless Ben is a passive role, a ninja, or didn't move last night as scum it's unlikely he is scum.

Why are we talking ourselves in circles here?

Ulti pretty much had to be shot twice right?

Did no one read Ulit's flip??

My vote is in theory on Dumey still yes.

#unvote

but like come on yinz don't see this?!

Did neither of you guys read the flip???