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wallmasterz posted...

Miller cop), bulletproof doctor, Jack, town drunk, lazy tracker, neighborizer.

vanilla: me, sultan, ben, Lea, Han.

I would guess four town power but who knows, maybe five. Definitely dont think scum is all in claimed power or all in vanilla

Uh I'm the drunk? Not vanilla

Anyways I'm back a bit. Soo everyone talking down on my involvement with The Chris Lynch. I lynched Chris beacuse I thought he was scum. Chris was acting unusual. I tried to point it out and idk if it came across the way I wanted it to. Part of the reason I was so mad at Ulti for jumping shit was beacuse I though together we were gaining momentum on the lynch and I felt super betrayed by thar. Then Lea came in and brought it back up again and I was excited to see that this hunch was becoming a reality. Chris usually trys to pocket me at town calling me his cute Kahoi or something like that. He was bashing me alot town Chris trys to guide me and he was not.

He started to paint me as a mislynch candidate and I was holding strong.

So I've been hit with a string of Bad luck I'm in the ER. I have been having some abdominal pain on my right side for about a week and the pain shifted to a bigger area. I shouldn't need to replace but a heads up to why my activities may be slightly limited

Ohh well okay.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

No

Then why did he send JC to Ulti ulti??

Ctes sent JC to Ulti thinking JC was scum who sent in the shot to a BP Ulti is that his argument did he say this?

ctesjbuvf posted...

Wait, I thought Sultan had unvoted

Wait did I not? I thought I did too

##unvote

for now..

I am baffled on what to think. I do dislike this since we were on a wild goose chase looking for a scum redirector.

Idk what to think about ctes tbh I see why he does the redirect now it makes sense since Ulti is BP so I'm conflicted and more confused than I was before

UltimaterializerX posted...

Why does scum ctes claim that here when he would know thats a suicide pact is the real issue Im having. Does anyone else think ctes and Wall are doing a theater?

Why doesn't a town Ctes claim this shit earlier so anti town. Like um we've been playing a goose chase looking for this busdriver...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hes confirmed scum because he didnt die on the night I saved him?

I ment confirmed town saying scum to much in one sentence is blah

Chaeix posted...

Definitely a possibility, but godfather does specifically pair well with this cop variant.

Honestly I'm surprised nobody's brought up the possibility that I could be the GF yet. I've honestly been thinking since last day that would be the best angle for someone to consider me scum because if I had been scanned by Crescent and she inno scanned me - I'd still be scum who knew she targetted me and could have faked my scan that way.

I just didn't want to introduce it to the discussion and give scum any ideas for angles to come after me with if it could be avoided, but I think given the current discussion it's worth mentioning.

Why would we think this when you're confirmed Tracker? Unless you're a GodFather tracker. Which interesting.

I got you basically confirmed scum between Ulti's save and my drunk role

UltimaterializerX posted...

I think Sultan is probably scum too if Dumey is town. He claimed well after Justin and the role is so unbelievably convenient as a counter to Justins claim.

How is this a counter claim to Justin when it confirms him to be the an actual tracker? It's not like I claimed that I was a tracker tracker and his weak tracker made no sense??

PunishedBen posted...

Sultan, why did you not claim your role on day 1?

I explained this earlier but I'll exsplain it again. I was not going to claim it to Maybe throw off scum and catch a shot..

I also didn't think JC was town when he claimed so I was like scan me scum and shot me so our other powers can get their stuff off. But it didn't work obviously.
It can fool town or scum as someone who moves.

PunishedBen posted...

7- Sultan - SCUM? Haven't been paying attention to anything from him this game besides the very safe for scum drunk role. Dependent on JC being town.

Ahh so you did

PunishedBen posted...

I think this is a criminally wrong POE so that doesnt make me feel good about Sultan.

As Ulti said, too many vanilla claims left for all of them to be telling the truth. And you happened to pick the one that I know for sure is vanilla.

Lea also made the jok but @PunishedBen this is what looks BCTish you dont mention me until I had you on my POE

Is Ben coming in to replace BCT and do his Best BCT impression beacuse he replaced in as scum? And just want to have fun?

UltimaterializerX posted...

The entire point of mafia neighbor is locking yourself with town. That is such a weak argument.

Well isn't that the point if neighbor is one could be scum?

Okay I could be giving Walls to much benefit of the doubt but I didn't like BCTs play his reactions were very backwards for a vanilla. And Ben has been like ahit posting 70% of the time since replacing

Why benct is my poe over Walls.

Han I just can't see it same with Lea. So outta that it leaves you and walls

Chaeix posted...

Sultan, who have you bumbled into each night?

Ohh I'm not ignoring you I am not told who I bump into.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Dumey mentioned indy unprompted day 1. I actually think if he flips scum, we get some insight into whether or not one exists and whether this game is 10/3/1 or 10/4.

My poe continues to be

Ben/BCT
Dumey
Ctes.

If it's 10 3 1 the 1 is totally ctes.

Also the fact Ctes hasn't claimed flavor is odd

ctesjbuvf posted...

I was too slow typing on my phone so it got into the other topic:

Thank you for giving your answer Sheep. I just wanted to have that as well before I said what I'm about to say.

I dug into it because I have plenty of reason to believe scum did not shoot Death. I vig shot Death. I already explained why I thought he was scum earlier. It probably also helped me take the risk that I didn't risk shooting town power, since I believe Death would have said that eventually given he was up for lynch right until the end. It obviously didn't pay off so yeah, I screwed up (sorry Death, if you're following). No need to go into that, hindsight is 20/20 and all that.

It was always my plan to claim my f*** up when I woke up and saw it. Any doctor out there have very good reason to believe they protected town and I hope they can use that without outing themselves. I just wanted to get thoughts out about first given that scum would know they didn't shot. Took way longer than anticipated but here we are. Hopefully with this information on the table we can get somewhere.

This seems like it was well played out. And pre planned with this I keep rereading it and it seems like it was his plan all along?

Also again i wonder why do all vigs insist on shooting night/day 1? It's very low success rate.

The question again goes back to would scum do this as their kill and let Ctes claim hey scum must have shot at Ulti or hey ulti must have saved the shot and I as town made this kill.

The more I think about the more I keep making these questions to myself

Small notes in. Day 1 ctes.

Makes his list for Chris on sheep claim reactions.

Attacks sheep
attacked me for not being able to read, (kinda towny points)

Becomes chris' buddy a bit and works with Chris majority if the day.

ctesjbuvf posted...

A lot of my play?

The most memorable things I remember is the list for Chris and your vig shot.

Some other reads here and there but thats about it. The vote is a hunch but also a memo to do an iso

##vote:Ctes

I'm kinda lost but I got a weird feeling about ctes.

Looking at ctes alot of his play is riding on his vig shot. I'm going to do a ctes ISO to confirm this thought. But something isn't sitting right in my mind

Question for Han.

Do you think Ulti is scum despite everything on the table or are you just frustrated with him beacuse he is throwing inaccurate shade, or both?

Maybe you're right about the red herring (I always think of a pup named Scooby-Doo when I hear Red Herring lol)

Also Ben brought up a good point earlier and might be why the joke went over my head. Uh Creasent was miller cop.. but there isn't another cop to scan her guilty??

Also for ctes and unblockable and a vig both is a bit strong. Unless it's a Jack of all kill kind of a deal. But also adding on a double voter Varient on the scum side that can control a lynch is crazy to think about.

I'm not the best at balance but I know that on paper doesn't sound balanced. Maybe that's why ulti is BP Doctor? Cuz that is also a strong role.

Anyways again I am Morn Town Drunk.

Ctes being scum only makes sense if he is vig/ something else and used the vig to try and confirm himself.

Dumey could be both neighbor/something.

Or a vanilla is not a vanilla and was a limited use thing.

What do we think the set up is 4 v 10? Or 3 v 11? Or 3 v 1 v 9?

Chaeix posted...

I will point out that BCT's reaction is the strangest thing here because I don't think it was faked? He was genuinely confused about why he was targetted - and if he was scum, wouldn't he know why I was targeting him? Either that or BCT's gotten much better at acting.

At the very least BCT can't be the redirector himself. If he was trying to save himself from a scan, there is literally no utility in redirecting me instead of just, like, not moving.

Only thing I could think of is a varient of reflecting people off of him. To someone else

wallmasterz posted...

Han, and everyone really, how does doctor typically work on b8? Am I right in assuming doctors cant save themselves, or no?

They cannot save themself correct.

wallmasterz posted...

Do you honestly believe anyone is more confirmed Town than ulti at this point

Don't think that is what he's saying he is just saying ulti is wrong and making up points that aren't true

HanOfTheNekos posted...

What actually pisses me off though

Is that THIS is the biggest fucking lie

In the like, idk, 6-7 Scum games I've played since 2011, I have never bussed like a madman.

Ulti is literally inventing facts.

Ignore ulti for now, he could I actually think JC may be onto something.

Chaeix posted...

Important to note these were used the same night, so likely did not originate from the same scum member.

Has Neighborizer ever been a scum jack thing before?

I had a role in my Simpsons game that didn't go according to plan thst wad a neighbor/2 time role cop. But it was a full time neighbor. Idk if this helps or not but could be a set up kinds thing like that neighborizer/1 time redirector or something.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Then Han makes post like this and I can't see how you think he is scum.. im so lost and I hate it

Double that point

Then Han makes post like this and I can't see how you think he is scum.. im so lost and I hate it

Should I lend you my sword Ulti?
I followed your lead plus my gut before and we got Chris. I need to figure it out. Han is a vanilla who has been kinda hiding in plain sight kind of a deal.

Chaeix posted...

the cop scan thing was a paper mario joke, sultan

O I DIED early

The Crew:
1- BlueCrystalTear/Ben.- Vanilla but now saying had a cop scan on Han?
2- ctes- Vig could be either town or scum i guess?
3- EDumey- Neighborizer not alignment indicative
4- Han- Vanilla apparently scanned scum?
5- JC- basically confirmed by Ulti and with my role confirmed tracker. *small chance not 100% confirmed if ulti was shot and he is bp.
6- Lea- Vanilla and Neighborized by Duney
7- Sultan- a concussed drunk (sounds like a cocktail)
8- UltimaterializerX- basically confirmed doc could have got shot last night and not have confirmed Justin town if he is legit Bp.
9- wallmasterz- Vanilla did not move last night (could be scum and stayed home?) But thst is kinda a stretch.

Chaeix posted...

Ulti and Lea, what are your thoughts on the fact that neither Ulti or I was redirected? I think it's safe to say Ulti wasn't either because scum would have just redirected his save and shot their target.

Do you think it's more likely that the redirector is limited use, or that scum just didn't use it last night?

And if scum didn't redirect last night, is it plausible that they also chose not to kill?

Can I answer this??

I think it might be something like my last post maybe a scum Jack or sorts? Cuz town would claim this right?

Okay so this helps a bit if Ulit protected JC. Jc didn't die JC is basically confirmed.

Ben now claiming BCT earned a Cop scan and Ben used it on Han??

And I guess the other is Dumey or Wallz?

Still a redirector out their... wallz is vanilla is it him?

Is it Lea?
Is their someone who has multiple powers like Ulti being BP and Doc.

Jc being redirector and Tracker makes 0 sense..

Idk to many roles for me.

PunishedBen posted...

*sips tea*

Uh hi Ben. Have you been following the game?

Wow good shit Ulti who did you save

A bomb?! Bur why?!

Isquen posted...

I dont like games with Crescent in them because half of it is inane babble and it's hard enough finding breadcrumbs when people arent meowing at each other.

Regretting taking the replace now.

Meow.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

What's BS?

And why are you calling Crescent, who is dead town, scummy?

This is probably the most town thing I've seen BCT say in a bit.

I agree what are you saying isquen?

UltimaterializerX posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80371959/972045882

Andys first post day 2.

Why was this guy getting votes on him again? Dude is clearly town unless Chris is literally typing up his posts for him.

More so to his over reaction to JC saying he tried to scan him. But I may have. Been over thinking it a bit. We are looking in a poe and he was on thst bubble pretty hard then that reaction im like so a scared Town BCT doesn't want to get cleared?!

But looking back I think BCT went from the top of my POE to the top.

Not cleared also not who I want to go after right now.

Isquen posted...

BCT
Ulti
Dumey
wallmasterZ
Scummish

Exaplin this one Ulti? I think you may have but town having no protection seems unlikely. Unless you're saying the redirection is Towns protection

Though I'm againt the easiest most logical lynch Isquen is probably the right choice huh?

Walls pulling out things I was thinking about is kind of funny. I was going to mention maybe it's as simple as JC isquen and mention where he said he liked what he saw from Mzero with little to go on.

But I liked the few Mzero posts at that point I thought it looked a bit like town Mzero but that's before he went completely MIA and got replaced. I have been having a hard to reading what I've seen from isquen.

wallmasterz posted...

I convinced myself earlier ctes and jc were linked. But Ill admit a fake town vig claim is ballsy. Yet I cant escape feeling like there were red flags with the ctes and jc pair.

Does anyone else think town drunk and town lazy tracker make sense as opposing alignments? I think jc being scum lazy tracker makes a ton of sense. Chris did say it would take a lot for him to vote jc before the votes started piling on. And in this scenario jc just lies and says he got redirected to ulti.

Lying about redirection is am interesting theory. It throws us off him a bit and has us on a wild goose chase for something that might not even exist.