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Also I think I have seen roles like that before, but I may be thinking of something else.
I suppose its provable either way

I dont know why HB wouldnt just claim that yesterday, but thats neither here nor there

Hey Edumey

Plum claimed doc and Isquen claimed watcher.
Corrik also claimed power but its as of yet undetermined

What Lea said

Red sassed Peaf about claiming his flavor later than his role, which gives him a townpoint

Minor interaction, but with Peaf I have to take what I get. So few people talked about him and he just tunneled Wallz and Kirby day1 and day2

The fact that you're trying to pin me in the Mishima corner despite everything, just makes me think you are the final Mishima member spelling out your mislynch road to victory.

I have already countered the argument anyway.

Peaf turned on Kirby awfully fast day2, though he did drop him again only to go back to Kirby once people called him out for unvoting.

Though ultimately I dont think Peaf votes Kirby there if Kirby his scummate

Hm Kirby had that moment where he called out Peaf for never having played with Corrik before.
Granted he was wrong, but I dont think the misunderstanding happens if they are on the same team.

Well moving on

Day1 Peaf is not a very useful fountain of information so far. Though I do note some interesting parts.
He went after wallz because Wallz said that thing about Ulti that was probably true in hindsight
Ulti wanted to not bring attention to himself and failed to do so. Yet Wallz still assumed thats what it looked like.

Anyway his crusade against Peaf is not useful I suppose, and the fact that Lea joined Peaf for a bit just says the same about her (no way she is the last Mishima etc)

Kirby's response to Peaf is maybe more useful. If only because now it reads like he also knew too much about a player. Its a defense of Wallz anyway.

Regarding Wallz, I can understand Peaf's argument that it doesn't make much sense given that Ulti is 100% calling attention to himself. I don't think that was the point Wallz was trying to make, though, IIRC. Wallz was saying something like, "If Ulti had a good role, he would've claimed it immediately, so he either has a crummy role or he's scum," right?

Also there is this post I drew out of Peaf which I will just quote for future use.

Fairly confident that igcd and red are both town. Lean town on both lea and corrik.

Sbell is a lean scum but that might be because I'm boneheaded with the idea that Ulti put in my brain. Even though that misreading has been debunked it still made me feel something, yknow?

Cult was just on my mind because of Xenoblade 3 mafia
The hidden scumthing also happened recently. I was just listing of ideas like that

And dont give me that notion about it being strange to consider such things, when 2 scumteams is usually even stranger than both those options IMO.

And for the umpteenth time, I did not seriously consider it. If you read my posts from that time instead of just looking at Corriks contextless quotes, you would see that.

And people knew it had some experimental aspects, Ctes said as much.
Thats the reason people started thinking two scumteams in the first place.

I didn't seriously believe it is basically what I mean.
I already said as much back then I believe.

Granted I should not assume scum thinks the same way I do, I just naturally changed my mind about whether or not scum had a hidden member due to all the new info.

Okay this is silly

I floated out those 2 theories more as a joke than anything serious since the other more plausible theories already got mentioned.

HB should at the very least explain where the hell he was day2

Mzero at least has timezone problems, but I agree that he's been coasting of early votes

Ok whatever Corrik, done talking to you.

Wallz was definitely laying low to see who he could vote to save himself.
I am a bit concerned that he did not vote Kirby all that time tho.

You said I did not claim early as if it was a general context-less habit.

Corrik you are not my mom either, I said you were thinking differently in the sense that you apparently believe I never claim easily as town when I am sure I have done so.

A masclaim condoned by many players is different from you just asking me to claim by myself anyway

Maybe, but Peaf knew Nina existed.

Or is Nina considered good enough to not always be scum?

Oh you misread me

I voted death because he generally refuses to claim as town.

This is the part that is not true at all.

Wouldn't scum have to know another scumteam exists if their team was small?

Corrik7 posted...

Why did I vote you then?

Because you think otherwise?
I am not your mom Corrik.

I dont know if either scumteam would ever shoot Red before any of all the claimed power we have now..
Then again maybe they thought Red was hiding power.

Anyway I no longer believe IGCD is merely antitown. He's being too dumb to be truly dumb.

Also did HB just do a driveby posting and ditch again? Surprised nobody commented on that besides Lea.

Corrik7 posted...

I voted death because he generally refuses to claim as town.

I dont think that's true at all

If the scumteam consists of 3 members, bussing is just a bad idea.

At least now I understand Ulti a bit more. He thought he could score good townpoints by attacking Sbell and Lea for 'slips'

Scumlea likes to watch me die its true

The statician in me also wants to rule out Kirby as Gcorpo, since Peaf left his vote on Kirby

At least we have Peafs flip to start with

Though I hardly recall what he did now.

I will laugh if Ulti's team shot Peaf simply because he joked with Ulti for the 3scum comment back on day1.

That whole sequence of posts certainly drew my attention after Wallz's flip.

masterplum posted...

Ah. Good point

Also it seems with Peaf dead, everyone should get their stuff back.

I at least feel certain Abacus and Lea cannot be on the Mishima team

To be fair I half expected Peaf to be a Mishima member too since he did not join the Wallz lynch.

Because I very much doubt G Corp shot one of their own

Thats just me trying to force IGCD to play seriously if he is town and die if he is not.

masterplum posted...

Man I called it so hard

I am referring to the 2 scum teams thing but also to wallz

Thank you very much MISHIMA surviving member for killing Lopen. I very much appreciate it.

I assume you meant to say Peaf here?

First of
Get wrecked Wallz

Secondly, Lea I love you.

Thirdly

##Vote: IGCD

IGCD what the fuck

Lopen you're so petty

Lopen posted...

Last time Death was so thoughtful about the game and so bad with voting he was a recruited cultist

Maybe Corrik was right

I have a bullet from Ctes lodged in my back that disagrees

Timestamps arent that reliable I suppose, since people can check from their phone at times.
(I do at least)

But when the updates are recent, I have to call it out.

wallmasterz posted...

Im here Ive just been trying to re read some stuff

Hmhm
Well this is what we like to call a summon. But I will be nice due to my previous conclusions.
But what are your own conclusions so far?

masterplum posted...

Death what re you doing man

I was checking Wallz and Kirby's posts about the Ulti lynch day1, since thats what the day seems to come down too.
Wallz also suspected Ulti as scum, so in that aspect he really is no better or worse than Kirby.

Hilarious that his final few posts were about timestamps
Hilarious that his timestamps were updating up to at least 6 minutes ago

##Vote: Wallmaster

And I dont want it to be unclear, I will not vote Lea.

She was not as damaging to Ulti as people claim, but thats still many steps removed from believing that she and Ulti would plan things out like this if they were scum.

wait why did abacus vote Wallz again?

For what its worth for Kirby, he did not get distracted by the Plum lynch and kept his vote on Ulti throughout day1. Though he did kinda undermine himself by saying the Ulti/Sbell/Plum lynches were already dead in the water.

I suppose this says less if Plum is scum anyway, but thanks to Corrik just not being clear with us I still have to believe Plum has a chance to be doctor.

I had my own explanation that Lea's vote moved attention away from Plum back to ulti, though I'd argue Lea was a passive role in Ulti's own selfdestruction.
She'd be a fool to not dismantle his inane attack.

Meanwhile this is why I feel so lost.

IGCD you confuse me so

Not comfortable lynching someone who is unclaimed and as far as I know cannot claim.

I dont have a vote down, because I feel like I we're going in a myriad of directions.

Its still some effort on Abacus' part I'd say

Oh even earlier I see.