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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 4 - Slyfer no Slyfing
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 6:19:04 PM
#54
I am also reiterating that a big push towards somebody wanting to look at Hb was him hopping off of Ctes, in what would appear to be saving a Scummate at the end of day. This only works if Ctes is Scum, though.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 4 - Slyfer no Slyfing
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 6:05:10 PM
#50
Scanning one of the most inactive persons is common on Board 8.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 4 - Slyfer no Slyfing
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 5:58:00 PM
#44
People making bad plays with Town power is a pretty common thing.


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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 4 - Slyfer no Slyfing
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 4:45:15 PM
#17
Peace___Frog posted...
My third or fourth tinfoil hat theory so far is that hb has been following han's guidance so hard, he is to be Scum trying to get on han's good side and butter him up (han town in this scenario). If they were both scum then they wouldn't need to be so blatant about it.

Thing is, my Townread on Hb is based on rereading his Day 1, and nothing about today.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 3:24:34 PM
#449
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/6/AAOJ0pAADxzG.png
I will say, this pair of posts makes zero sense unless you are certain Ctes is Scum.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 3:20:47 PM
#447
Kirby321 posted...
In the meantime, Han, can you explain why Lopen is town? I get that tinfoil conspiracy theories is his whole town tell, but Lopen isn't a dumb player. It's not out of his scope to try and fake this behavior, especially if Ben is his scummate.

I don't think "tinfoil conspiracy theories" is the right phrase. If I wanted to be dismissive, I'd call it fanfiction. If I wanted to be polite, I would say that Lopen suffers from severe case of crippling confirmation bias. It is just like what he did in the previous game.

I guess the lynchpin is this - do you think Lopen isn't this bad? If you think he cannot be this bad, then he's likely Scum. If you think he is particularly clever, then he might be.

As for me, he seems to be pretty close to where I was in mafia stage of development some 12 years ago. So identifying with that makes me feel good about him being Town. Also, he has vouches from confirmed dead Town.

Peace___Frog posted...
I don't even know what to say. Forgive the formatting if it got messed up at all, though.

In support of what Kirby's saying, it would make sense for him to put IGCD if he doesn't seriously have a real opinion of you and is just making things up.

It is more likely that he copied the list from the first topic, i think.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 2:47:22 PM
#426
I would like Hb to clarify, but we're not lynching claimed Power over claimed Vanilla, especially when the argument is that "The claimed power switched vote to protect his Scummate, the claimed Vanilla".

There's not a single ounce of strategic worth in lynching Hb over Ctes today. In fact, it's actively anti-Town.

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TopicB8 NFL Ladder Contest 2022 Week 6
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 2:42:31 PM
#30
Level 3 I think?

Minnesota (-3.5)
Cincinnati (-1.5)

BONus: 8

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 2:40:46 PM
#423
Lopen, why was Chang your no. 2 most Town at a point yesterday? And Poppy as no. 3?

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 2:39:40 PM
#422
[7] SBell - (IGCD), (Red), (Poppy), BCT, Poppy, Chang, Han, Peaf, Ctes, Hb
[5] ctes - (Han), (Lopen), (Peaf), Red, Lopen, (Hb), Ben, Sbell, Red

At a glance, my trust in SBell lynch is mostly in BCT, and then circumstantially in Hb for my ISO of him and feeling like Peaf is actually trying to solve the game.

My trust in Ctes lynch is that I think Lopen is Town and Ben is the only question mark, but Ben wanted Chang to be lynched over both of these.

I just think I'm really confused by Ben's placement in this game. That might be the most important factor to figure out.

if Ctes is Scum, then yes, there would be a push to protect him. If he ends up as Town, then the later votes are more likely from Town members as Scum doesn't need to draw attention and try to push votes at end of day between Town/Town. Therefore, Hb, Peaf, Ben less likely Scum.

So if Ctes is Town:
Chang and Poppy look worst.
I think Ben might look worse here? But just because he only looks best if Ctes is Scum.
Lopen looks less good.

If Ctes is Scum:
Ben looks best.
Chang and Poppy don't look too much better than the otherwise.
Hb looks the worst based on just the lynch, but I still don't connect the two as Scummates.
Peaf had SBell on his lynch list already. He was on Ben before, who I think was his number 1, but switched when it was between SBell (who was on his list) and Ctes who he was null on earlier. So Peaf doesn't look as bad.

I feel like lynchwise today, we're revolving around:
Chang
Ctes
Poppy
Ben

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 2:24:19 PM
#419
First definitive thing Red said was an above normal chance I was Scum.

Said he thought Kirby was Town for some reason, but couldn't remember why.

Said Poppy was playing differently.

Red flips read on me entirely.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/0/AAOJ0pAADxyE.png
Defends suspicion of MZero

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/1/AAOJ0pAADxyF.png
Chang immediately popped in to say "this is Town Red" after that.

So Red's biggest contributions were saying that Chang or Ctes were the right kills, and being a second person to call Poppy's behavior strange. And because I'm egotistical, he's a second player considered to be strong by this community who said I was Town.

Obv he was a double-voter so it's harder to pull more from what he said, but I think it's worth saying that the combination of Red and Corrik could have been onto something with Poppy (who I believe is catching up now).

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 2:14:22 PM
#417
The interesting thing is, any time anybody has a list of players they are thinking Scum that I heavily disagree with (Lopen, Peaf), Ben is on those lists as well. As the only one that I don't outright disagree with.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 2:13:28 PM
#416
Corrik thoughts...

Lopen was his first Townread.
Side-eyed Poppy a little hard until he hopped onto the Chang train, who he focused on being quite defensive.
Said Kirby was in the same tier of Scumminess along with Poppy and Chang.
Had some back and forth with Chang where Chang suspected him then backed down because it took that argument for Chang to realize that somebody suspecting him every game might not be Scum.

Said Sultan was Town.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/7/AAOJ0pAADxx3.png

Here's an interesting post from Lopen:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/8/AAOJ0pAADxx4.png
if Hb is telling the truth, then that Scumlist has 2 confirmed Town through death, 1 through Hb, and me who is obv Town (at least to people good at mafia).

Peaf pretty wrong with his read on Corrik. Peaf has also posted some things with heavy decisiveness such as:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/9/AAOJ0pAADxx5.png
Hb also had a lot of issues with the idea that Corrik was a possible nightkill target.

Overall, d1, Corrik didn't give a whole lot. His first post of the game was "I am the most powerful role. Save me tonight". Will revisit shortly after reading Red.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 12:23:14 PM
#402
Anyway, today was a half day at work and I'm maybe gonna nap but will probably do some dives after.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 12:22:55 PM
#401
ViolentAbacus posted...
Is that because you're a likely to-be-killed target?

I was more just throwing out you and lopen because of how y'all were going at it yesterday. Though that was mostly resolved by the end of day, I guess.

Yeah. I'm a bad scan target for the same reason I'm an awful D1 lynch choice.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 12:06:07 PM
#397
Oh, I am never a good scan target

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 11:55:05 AM
#393
Why would Scum make a fakeclaim to call an inactive Town and push two people with "80% surety"?

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 11:41:09 AM
#388
I don't want to put too much stock into inactivity yet. Yesterday night and today morning is still not a whole lot of time for someone to pop in, necessarily.

I did have the thought that Abacus had posted more this day then he did yesterday, but I didn't count posts to confirm (like I tried to with Hb)

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 11:34:29 AM
#386
You know Hb could just be a Mason Recruiter or something

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 10:57:00 AM
#382
I didn't really expect to be scanned, but I'd be damned if a framed day scan is what got me lynched.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 10:22:10 AM
#377
I will say that, while I'm sure Poppy is busy, his absence is very noted so far this day.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 9:49:40 AM
#371
BlueCrystalTear posted...
May I ask what the point of Pot of Greed is, if there isn't a Day Cop? Would it really be in there as a waste of money?

Cheap card interaction.

Look at it the other way -

If there is a day Cop, then literally half the town members right now would scan as Scum (ignoring your trap going off)

Assuming 4 Scum. No matter what, unless dead, they can probably all buy and play Pot of greed N1. With mislynch and two NK's, that means they can play Pot of Greed on 4 out of 8 Town members.

Now, this is totally possible, and since we know Pot of Greed exists, it's not necessarily OP, but it does massively gimp the strength of a day Cop.


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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 9:22:30 AM
#363
I'm just point this out:

Pot of Greed does not confirm there is a Day Cop.

it could be a misdirection

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 9:16:57 AM
#361
BlueCrystalTear posted...
I have no idea why you would think otherwise, or why you'd see that as a slip..

I did not say it was a slip so *shrug*

ctesjbuvf posted...
Despite how few times we've played together, this is happened twice now and I've been town each time. If you're town (which I still lean towards) I think you just accept that I cant post on page 1 without triggering some radar in you until a game comes someday where I actually roll scum.

Also in case someone might have considered it given I think I was the last person to check in today, I did not use any card on BCT.

Hey it's possible.

I still haven't remembered what made me lean Town on you. Might have happened when I ISO'd Hb.

ctesjbuvf posted...
Red was double voter so trying to think he wasn't simply killed because of that probably isn't worth much. Corrik is a good kill regardless but he probably wasn't completely off. He called Sultan, Lopen, Han, Ben and Kirby town, BCT probable town and red likely town. I would guess he's right about at least most of those.

The Ben/Kirby part of this is the only place where I don't necessarily agree offhand.

Ctes, if you are Town, then why was your lynch pushed and by who? And same about SBell's lynch.

Were you and SBell pushed to draw attention from Chang?

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 7:58:28 AM
#350
Kirby321 posted...
I'm not countering Hb's claim, if that's what you're implying here.

What? I'm implying nothing. I'm explaining to you why I reacted the way I did, and I wasn't forthcoming about my own trap card.

Anyway, maybe I just hate them but Chang's letters say very little of importance with very many words and my gut is being pinged that he's scum again.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 12:33:15 AM
#327
I will agree that the Pot of Greed + Crossout Designator combo isn't very obvious, though. Han claims that it didn't cross his mind at first, either,

When I read this, Kirby, I thought you meant just the combo in general. I didn't realize you meant using it as a Scum gambit.

Would it kill you to be more straightforward? >_>
Or maybe I'm just dumb. Idk, I didn't immediately come to that conclusion when reading your response to chang.
I was being cagey for a bit because I wanted to think about whether or not it'd be worth it to withhold the info.

I'm sure somebody has the ability to steal a card from my hand, but I don't think it's worth it to hide that I have a Pot in my hand at this point.

unless you're a cop

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 12:17:05 AM
#323
As chang(I think it was him) pointed out already, I know about that combination because I also bought that combination of cards.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 12:16:22 AM
#322
I will agree that the Pot of Greed + Crossout Designator combo isn't very obvious, though. Han claims that it didn't cross his mind at first, either, until he really thought about it.

No no no no no no no no

That is wrong. Please go back and read what I said so you're not confused.

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TopicMCU General 12 - Still Discussing Star Wars
HanOfTheNekos
10/14/22 12:12:51 AM
#213
1. WandaVision
2. She-Hulk
3. Hawkeye
4. Loki
5. Ms Marvel
6. Falcon and The Winter Soldier
7. Moon Knight

  1. Hawkeye
  2. Loki
  3. Wandavision
  4. FAWS
  5. She-Hulk
  6. What If
  7. Moon Knight
  8. Ms. Marvel


Kind of weird to have FAWS up that high but I think, when watching it, I was more hyped for the next episode than I have been for most of the other shows.

I would only consider the top 3 to be particularly 'good' shows, and only Hawkeye to me was 'great'.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 11:50:22 PM
#315
Hbthebattle posted...
Do you think I'm lying, Han?

Currently, no.

I just don't like operating with less info, I wouldn't expect you to live past N2 at this point, and I also think Lopen is Town and you're getting ahead of yourself.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 11:34:33 PM
#310
Hbthebattle posted...
A little bit of mystique is always good for adding a bit of spice and flavor and screwing with the heads of the scum team. I have at least one cop scan. I might have more. I might have totally different abilities. They aren't relevant right now.

You know you've got an uphill climb in terms of getting people to believe you though, right?

I will say - I think I agree on Ben. I did think last night that he was the real best target for lynch yesterday. I also think he's done a good job of poking in after day start but not really being deeply involved.

Like, that's something worth stating - people being more active are less likely to be Scum. (yes, Scum can intentionally post a lot to counter this belief, but in practice, activity is still a good metric).

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 11:25:40 PM
#305
And Hb, why aren't you being more open about your claim if you've already claimed you have info and we have a Doctor dead?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic
TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 11:23:53 PM
#303
Hbthebattle posted...
I, in fact, did not really win a scum game by doing nothing. Me and sultan got instantly killed. Red probably doesn't win without bombs going off or Lopen's insanity.

Doesn't Lopen's insanity from last game remind you of his insanity in this game?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic
TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 11:21:17 PM
#300
Hbthebattle posted...
##Vote: Lopen
I see how the lines are drawn, Lopen. I've nailed half your team in one blow. Have fun!

Don't you think your logic is a little too easy when it comes to this? I mean, suspecting the person who hasn't posted anything... you did just win a Scum game by not posting anything. Being wary of no activity is okay. And MZero is more active when he's Town.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 11:16:43 PM
#297
Peace___Frog posted...
Peaf, Ben, and Lopen on HB with 7 to lynch.

Ben had lazy votes yesterday and contributed zero commentary with his HB vote.

Han is staunchly against the HB lynch because he thinks that HB and Ctes cannot possibly both be scum, and he is convinced that ctes is scum. He asked me my thoughts on ctes and I responded without committing to much of anything. I am surprised that Han hasn't pushed me harder on that, especially with how he defended HB. But I still don't understand how the two are mutually exclusive. Just because HB was pushing ctes doesn't mean that they're not putting on a show!

Don't put words in my mouth!

There are a number of reasons I think Hb looks like Town. I ISO'd back and really, the whole picture to me looked like Town.

Ctes I think is more likely to be Scum, but even in this instance, I'm open to the idea that he could be Town. There was a point where the idea crossed my mind tonight of why, but I don't remember what it was. I'll post it if I can recall.

And Peaf, I did react to your response. You laid out two questions, and I followed up with Hb. I was continuing on the conversation by discussing with Hb more. Otherwise, the signs all point to them not being Scum together. I've already explained how - Scum doesn't oops and think they ended the day with a vote on their Scummate if they specifically voted to save their Scummate.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 10:59:25 PM
#286
Kirby321 posted...
Okay, fair enough. When you describe it like that, it doesn't seem so contrived.

But let's suppose BCT was scum. Who else besides Sultan was really on his case enough that it'd be worth spending 150 Gems for this plan to make BCT look confirmed instead of saving up for potentially more powerful cards?

That's the thing I find gimmicky about this.

I agree that that is gimmicky.

Hbthebattle posted...
It was either support sbell against ctes, or support ctes against sbell. However, I have some information now that leads me to believe it might have been town/town.

:O

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 10:50:28 PM
#282
Peace___Frog posted...
Han, I didn't identify any gaffe and I don't think you replied to BCT when he asked what you meant. Can you please clarify?

HanOfTheNekos posted...
I thought you meant to say "I am Town hunting for Scum" and accidentally flipped it.



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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 10:38:21 PM
#276
Kirby321 posted...
Huh. This is an interesting point, yeah.

It's really not.

BCT gave a possible explanation where Scum thought Sultan was Day Cop and hadn't scanned BCT yet (if BCT is Town and Sultan is Day Cop, this is factually true). BCT also said he didn't really believe it anyway.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 10:33:07 PM
#274
Kirby321 posted...
Are you insinuating that Han is scum, then? Considering he was the first to even bring up how this could be a setup to make BCT look town (which I don't really think is likely for how gimmicky it is, but I won't deny the possibility of it).

It's really not gimmicky, it's just base logic.

BCT is Town or Scum.

If he is Town, then he is telling the truth and someone played a Pot of Greed on him.

If he is Scum, then unless Corrik or Red played the Pot of Greed on him (or someone else who hasn't claimed it for w/e fucking reason), Scum played the card on him. And if Scum played the card on Scum, then the only option is that they did it to try to make him look like Town.


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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 9:53:18 PM
#266
changmas posted...
Han - since your trap card is public information - I would also like to ask you: did you make the same play as BCT (setting up the 50 gold trap and a pot of greed)?

I've glanced at the list of items available and I can't imagine you would've bought the other trap or other spell. Did you expect you might be targeted by pot of greed?

I could have put down the first trap without buying a top card.
I could have put down the second trap with the intention of locking Lopen's vote to spite him.


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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 9:48:43 PM
#264
BlueCrystalTear posted...
...what is?
I thought you meant to say "I am Town hunting for Scum" and accidentally flipped it.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Han Is just a feeling somethings just seems off but I don't know what that is. Han I think has looked better so far today but it is not anything to move off the vibe list.

Would you be willing to ISO me from the previous game?

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 9:19:06 PM
#250
Now THAT is a gaffe lol


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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 9:14:18 PM
#247
Why would Scum softclaim a Day Cop day 1?

Also, second note here after some thought:

Red was killed for being a double-voter. That showed in votals at end of day. While it is entirely possible Ctes is Scum, there is less of an argument that Red was killed for voting Ctes, since he was very clearly a double voter after reviewing votals.

Corrik however, needs to be ISO'd and reviewed.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 9:01:16 PM
#242
BlueCrystalTear posted...
I mean... Sultan's the only one who's going after me, all because of his "gut." A poor excuse if you ask me. I don't think they could anticipate Sultan being the day cop. Because, if he was, he wouldn't have his vote on me right now since he'd have scanned me clean.

Thus, Sultan is scum.

Okay, cool! This is what I wanted. You think Sultan is not possibly the Day Cop. Cool.

Now reverse it - who didn't think you were Town or Scum? People who think you're Town aren't going to Scan you as a Cop. People who think you're Scum aren't going to scan you as a Cop. Cops tend to scan the people they are unsure about.

So who would they think "I got vibes that so and so is a cop" and then think that the person would scan you?

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 8:53:31 PM
#239
BlueCrystalTear posted...
I did answer your question. This was an attempt at a set up. I didn't include the part where they wanted the day cop to waste a scan by having the "scum ploy" theory in play quickly but I thought that was obvious between the lines.

If this is the case, that's not a good look for you. Please explain why I shouldn't be doubting your attempts to control the narrative right now.

Because why would I ask you to answer that question if my attempt was to control that specific narrative? I would just say it and push it. I wouldn't ask you anything.

And, again, you did not answer the question. I did not ask the question to frame you, I asked because, if you're Town, then the answer to that question can tell you, literally, who else might be Town in the game.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 8:49:16 PM
#233
BlueCrystalTear posted...
Hmmm.... maybe what they were trying to do was meta this shit and WANT you to come up with the "scum ploy" theory, so they could then go on the offensive against me. If this is the case, then that's not a good look for you, Han, nor is it a good look for Sultan, since he's been so useless and done nothing aside from insist I must be scum with no evidence whatsoever.

I'm starting to think it could be Han, Sultan, HB, and... one of ctes or Abacus? Maybe Ben? Maybe Chang? IDK. But I feel most confident that Sultan is scum right now seeing as he's been very one-note in wanting to mislynch me.
That's very fun and WIFOM, but you didn't answer my question.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 8:47:53 PM
#231
PunishedBen posted...
Wont we know if BCT spent all his money on the two items at end of day?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/1/6/AAOJ0pAADxoU.png

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 8:47:16 PM
#229
That's a fair question. I can see an easy explanation for it, but I'd rather hear from the Hb's mouth.

Hb - what made you put that group of 4 together as a Scumteam? Why did you ask about that group?

Hb - why was your lynch priority SBell > Ben, and why was Ctes not there?

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 8:45:08 PM
#226
BlueCrystalTear posted...
Then who played it on me? Why would anyone who's town play a Pot of Greed at all? I only bought one to defend myself; I was never going to use it for any other purpose.

Again, it's just the hypothesis that it's a Scum ploy.

Let me put this in a different phrasing that, if you're Town, you'll want to consider:

If Scum tried to frame you with a Pot of Greed - who do they think is going to scan you? Many people have said you're obvTown, and very few said they were sure you were Scum.

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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.
HanOfTheNekos
10/13/22 8:39:45 PM
#221
BlueCrystalTear posted...
A scum team that uses 150 gems on night 1 to pull a stunt like that doesn't make much sense. It's getting too cute too soon,

This is just a weird thing for you to say when you repeatedly say you're new. I do like your list of reads. Thank you for it. Go reread the people you don't have much on, like Chang.

But also consider this - I don't think you're a good Pot of Greed target for Scum.

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