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RuneterranSnap posted...

I have never played non mini golf in my life

Sadly couldn't afford to rn :(

Nothing is stopping you from going to play mini golf.

htaeD posted...

I am ready to accept that some roles are just basically nilla without the name

Scum would lnow this so what are we logicing here.

masterplum posted...

Its a ridiculous role. So basically you would have to live to D5 and never give to a dead person to have it do anything?

Thats basically impossible

And you would have to die right because you arent giving to yourself?

This is much more likely a 3rd party role than what is described.

I would say it sounds like a scum fake claim but

Possibky third party but the outburst eliminates chris from being part of a larger team for sure.

masterplum posted...

I dont buy this role at all but I feel like Im emotionally blackmailed into believing it.

Salty scum post.

SirChris posted...

I'm sorry for ruining the game. I hate people seeing me like this. I should have just turned my phone off when the headache wouldn't go away

Chris just go lay down or something. In all the years i have known you, think back forever. The only times i have ever told you to step back are when it is best for you. Walk away for just a bit and take care of yourself please. I dont play that card lightly and you know it.

SirChris posted...

No one else expects this out of me. When I say I don't feel well they pick me up and help me

But not here. Here I get torn to pieces.

It just feels awful

You need to take a breath. I dont know what is going on exactly but burning bridges with a community that respects and enjoys playing with you isn't good for you.

SirChris posted...

You stopped being my friend when you stopped responding to me reaching out on discord man

Okay, no. The things i didn't respond to. The last one i was literally just at orientation for work. Prior to that was you telling me to bsck off ulti being a dick. Which i literally took your advice, walked away from my phone snd my pc and never stepped into those topics again.

And you know damn well despite me being good at showing my teeth I'm not exactly mr social fucking butterfly.

Chris i am telling you as a friend, game state completely ignored. Go take a breath. I cant pull a bigger card than this without getting us both modkilled now step away for a little bit please.

Chris, yeah. I know. The question was nearly rhetorical. Now you aren't doing any good burning bridges. Go take some deep breaths and calm down.

Chris, no, down. Please.

Chris are you okay? Down, seriously. Step away for 10 minutes and breathe a bit please.

Chris whoa. Down a little bit.

SirChris posted...

K anyway

Erdrick, The Legendary Hero, BLUE TEAM Goldeen Occultist.

Kill red after you kill me he's being predatory as fuck

Glad town

I bring out my teeth every now and then.

Obellisk posted...

so shall we special cody?

Nah. Hes likely just town chris tried to stash in pocket.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Welcome to the team.

SirChris posted...

I see we are still not the best at trying to meta things around here

My meta track record has always been and is still good.

And I think calling it meta is a bit of a stretch. I think it is the obvious sitting in front of us.

Cody11533 posted...

I can confirm that I cannot confirm whatever fun might be on Chris' end of this. The message basically said "You got a Goldeen, wanna name it?"

I still have a few pages to ctrl-f but having read all of t3, all of t1, and 4/9 of t2 chris does not express a town read of you. In fact, specifically has you not out of his poe, then says not town read but no desire to lynch. That he would give you something "good" doesn't follow.

Yeah kill that.

SirChris posted...

I played fast and loose with my role claim in order to trick scum

My goldeens are not useless. Please solve elsewhere

Cody can you confirm this. And not in a "the message said these were good" please. If there is some sort of tangible town benefit explicitly stated this is fine. If the message is something along the lines of "you have goldeens and this is good" completely unspecified or vague as fuck I wouldn't trust it even a little bit.

Mzero that is a long way off from "how can you read this exchange and think ulti isn't scum ".

SirChris posted...

Red do you remember what got me in trouble in fire emblem awakening

Probably in the back of my mind somewhere off the top of my head no.

SirChris posted...

You're the one who is saying I am scum for using an item lol

Well. Yes. That is how this works.

MZero posted...

I think he's scum for a lot of reasons which I have outlined throughout the day, and I also think he's lying about his role. Lynch all liars etc.

Lying is a tool and we are well beyond lynch all liars. Lynch scum.

SirChris posted...

It is not. It's an ability. The goldeens aren't tangible or usable

That isn't what i meant and you know that.

SirChris posted...

My ability has a normal priority and it is gifting goldeens

Thats an item.

MZero posted...

I'm pretty sure it's all a fluke that Ulti just decided to roll with

K glad i asked because now I'm extra confused why you think hes scum.

Thinking he had extra information is one thing(which turns logical sense to "cody would probably be scum first") but this is even less than I was expecting.

Again reiterating we have chris throwing items right in front of us. The rule is very clear. Scum uses items. Not town. The next rule even differentiates that town has actions and abilities.

Rather than traditional roles, SCUM has a pool of items to use as night actions. Each scum may use one item per night. These items all have limited uses, though some items can be used more than once.

Corrik7 posted...

You can't possibly know what scum has or doesn't have.

Corrik it is in the fucking rules.

MZero posted...

He claimed early that he town read Chris from the fish post. Later he guessed Chris was BP or untargetable and then vanilla, none of which make sense if he knew a Goldeen had been given to someone (ie a night action). Chris had to LITERALLY tell him that he was hoping Ulti would follow up on the fish post before he mentioned Goldeen. And then claims to have kniwn about it all along and you all just buy it

Who is buying what here?

And again, i need to know what you think this means ulti was doing or knew from his perspective.

Because i read this a bit as "ulti was bullshitting a bit" but where do you think the scumplay was role wise in particular.

MZero posted...

Also it's 4 am why the heck am I still awake

Dont you dare just yet.

Okay, first off, i need everyone to back up a step. Scum doesn't have roles. They have items.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Basically just try to ISO Ulti today working with him being clairvoyant that got "A Goldeen was given" and see if you think it tracks or if it looks like Ulti was throwing s*** on a wall for the full day while waiting for something that stuck.

Okay you didn't give me what exactly mzero is saying and you aren't mzero, ctes. Also the same question would end up applying to you because it doesn't mesn what you think it means i think.

MZero posted...

i don't understand how anyone can look at that sequence I posted and think Ulti is town

Okay mzero I'm going over your sequence. What exactly do you think that sequence means for ulti. I have s general idea of where you are going but if I'm slightly off you what i am thinking might just be confusing.

Defeatist chris at this point actually makes me feel better digging my teeth in, tbh. Doesn't feel natural with how much hes controlled the day.

htaeD posted...

Moreover, why would Chris choose a useless item like that night1?

We dont know exactly what it does. Or their pool of items even. But why chris would use "self confirm" feels pretty obvious.

##vote: Chris

I dont think I have the equity(nor do you all ever have the will to ever do thr obvious and follow me) to push this through. But chris smells. The fish thing doesn't confirm anything. Hell, now that I've just sat and thought about it(and stared at the rules a bit), we know that scum uses items. Chris is sitting there throwing an item right in front of us. We dont know what it does, but throwing out a confirmable "useless" item provides chris an endless excuse to still be alive.

Then you get to the flailing, landing constantly on people i either think are town or know are town(me). Some of his "confirms" have come up a bit out of the blue as well. He doesn't have as much town equity as you would think. being active scum in front of you isn't out of his wheelhouse.

Trade auto for Wolf

The Wolf

UltimaterializerX posted...

I really am the only one that reads the first post, huh

After getting burned by this a couple games in a row i actually gave it a glance this time.

changmas posted...

but nothing about my role or any of the flips thus far would lead me to believe a role abilities are linked to the actual character lore like that

I dont enjoy these conversations but really? A quick glance at my own flavor shows it following the samples pretty close. Roles were made, randomized, and then flavor was BSd to make it fit as far as i can tell.

ctesjbuvf posted...

which got red night killed, so maybe red is just bad at reading me.

Oh 100% dont know how to read you. It is why it is easier just to kill you.

Obellisk posted...

this is blatantly false. He lost is fuxking shit as scum when I accused him of lying about working or being scum.

Also Chris, apology accepted.

Huh? I was well aware of this. This was in game to in game. Not from game A to gsme B.

SirChris posted...

I feel like Marth was around for ends last game so using that against him feels not good tbh

Wait what we ended every day early.

To try to collect what else I have:

Lea being a follower tracks perfectly normal for her. Not sure I understand the turn on her but she got real fucking defensive over it when called out. She knows she plays spineless with chris in the game. Weird but not enough for me to feel a desire to join the lynch.

Peaf has been suspecting me every gsme for eternity for things that sound good on paper but dont actually matter as much as he thinks. He tracks pretty normal to me so far. Definite town lean.

Ulti came in contuing his dumb fued with sbell. We know 100% they cant be scum together. In the interest of knowing ulti is 100% about projection, I'm going to guess the excuse thing was actually about himself. No reason to think he'd learn and not just idle out most of the day like his last scum game. So prob town.

Not done but posting cause mobile is dumb.

Leafeon13N posted...

I dont think i have any scumvibes from death here either. Probably a slight town lean.

Without giving up my entire hand on death which i think is quite good. He basically blew me off when i poked him a bit ago and scum death is way more self conscious about things involving himself.

PeaceFrog posted...

don't want death to go.

I dont think i have any scumvibes from death here either. Probably a slight town lean.

Obellisk posted...

e I don't like the idea of lynching marth or red.

I dont like these either.

I'm not sure its exactly the right choice of word but recent marth towards me in this topic feels a lot more personable than i ever felt from him last game.

htaeD posted...

Hmmm Lea's posts say one thing but her actions dont enforce what she says (not strongly at least)
Lea am I right to characterize you as someone willing to let others do the work for you?

For a small post this feels real wordy death.

(Ulti not reading a game he was in what a fucking shock)