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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 12:15:26 PM
#63
Why is TC giving me sealioning vibes? Most of their posts contain nothing but questions.

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TopicVivek roasted Ron DeSantis in the Republican Debateladt night
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 12:13:32 PM
#16
AssAssasin69 posted...
yeah because the last 4 years have been amazing

I mean, it's well known the US president is directly responsible for all global problems.

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 12:10:00 PM
#56
AltAccount3 posted...
If you aren't actively wanting to have sex and failing at it, you're voluntarily celibate.

Sure, that's not what I was questioning.

But to refer to someone who has barriers toward casual relationships and someone who adds angry misogyny on top of that with the same label I think is a little misleading. I would describe the former as a "normal person." The latter is what we know as an "incel."

Savoots posted...
Should I?

I mean come on, words get used incorrectly all the time, you have to know that.

And you also must know that there will be people who fit the description of said words, and others who will used those words to simply insult others.

Like, this is basic social science.

So you don't want to put your claim that "incel is misused" to the test. I figured.

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TopicAnyone ever do a rump or tri-tip roast?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 12:05:18 PM
#3
I know I've had too much to drink when the topic title came across as a sexual euphemism.

GeraldDarko posted...
Make a little rub/paste with some olive oil, garlic, and herbs.

Doubly so when this made it worse.

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 12:04:18 PM
#50
ai123 posted...
Yes. Apologies for my misunderstanding.

All good!

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 12:01:30 PM
#48
AltAccount3 posted...
If you're depressed, lonely, and socially awkward to the point that you can't get sex even when you want it, you'd be an incel. If you're an angry misogynist who can't get sex because you're an angry misogynist, you'd be an incel.

Which is why the same term shouldn't be used to describe both.

I have plenty of factors that would preclude me from being appealing to women. At the same time, I'm not even attempting to put myself out there. And at no point do I think my shortcomings are women's fault. What does that make me? Incel or "incel?"

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 12:00:01 PM
#46
ai123 posted...
The term was coined by a woman as a kind of self-deprecating comment/joke on her romantic life at college.

Are you referring to incel? I was specifically talking about alt-right, which to my knowledge was coined by the very group it describes.

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:59:01 AM
#43
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I remember a Trump-supporting colleague of mine in 2019 who brought up Milo Yiannopoulos. I said "oh, the alt-right guy?" His response was, "eh... not sure of 'not bowing down to Islam' makes him alt-right."

There's a weird paradox there. Like, the guy clearly recognizes alt-right as a bad thing otherwise he wouldn't be trying to downplay it. But obviously not so much that he turns away from the ideology. Like it's about the negative optics rather than any sense of actual decency.

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:55:25 AM
#38
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


They at least have enough self-awareness to recognize when a label becomes bad PR. Hence why the alt-right tried to distance themselves from that term - despite coining it to begin with.

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:53:41 AM
#35
Savoots posted...
I've seen dudes who are like the ones you describe, but I've also seen it be used incorrectly as a pejorative for "someone I don't like".

Feel free to provide context.

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:53:19 AM
#34
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Almost like it's used to refer to... the people its definition refers to. Not this "anyone I don't like" conservative strawman nonsense.

And incel isn't the only term they've tried to warp that way. They've done it with racism too. "You leftists call anything you don't like racist!" (i.e "racism is no longer tolerated and being called out more often - and we don't like it.")

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:49:09 AM
#30
ai123 posted...
A misogynist who blames 'modern feminism' for the fact that they aren't fighting off supermodels with the shitty end of the stick.

I wouldn't use the term for someone who was just socially awkward and unsuccessful in dating. If they didn't have the shitty attitude and warped outlook on life.

This. It isn't just someone having little success. It's someone who takes the wrong message from it.

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:44:35 AM
#25
Savoots posted...
It's basically become a pejorative for "someone I don't like".

Like, I've literally seen happily married men be called an incel.

Highly doubt this.
Also, go the fuck away.

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TopicIncels: 'I wish women would look past my height and appreciate my personality.'
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:34:15 AM
#182
Cemith posted...
I don't mean to sound like a doomer but work friends are just that, "work" friends. 99/100 work friends you make you stop being friends with after the fact.

To add to this, I went back to my old workplace a few weeks ago. I was remembered and greeted warmly. But I hadn't spoken to any of them since my departure. This was the first time we'd interacted in nearly 4 years. You can enjoy working and interacting with someone without feeling the need to socialize with them outside work. Same goes for social activities like clubs or the gym.

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TopicIncels: 'I wish women would look past my height and appreciate my personality.'
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:29:38 AM
#176
Also I know I'm wasting my time given a previous post stating who Pointless_Topic is and their posting history.

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TopicIncels: 'I wish women would look past my height and appreciate my personality.'
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:27:23 AM
#172
Pointless_Topic posted...
There are tons of situations in life where you are entitled to an answer, or response. It's gaslighting to say that a father doesn't have the right to see his child because the other parent decided to cut him off from contact permamently

Again, that type of situation is obviously not what they were talking about.

They're talking about situations where your ex is pestering you despite there being no pending business between you (a child, financial obligations, etc.) beyond them just having hang ups. At that point you do not owe them a response.

No one is saying anything close to the scenarios you provide. If a parent with custody is infringing on the other parent's rights? By all means, take it to court. That has nothing to do with the basic social etiquette being discussed here.

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TopicIncels: 'I wish women would look past my height and appreciate my personality.'
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:23:52 AM
#164
Pointless_Topic posted...
You seem to agree with the idea that someone isn't "entitled to communication" but thats far from the truth. Especially taking into account

A. People with actual families who have kids, a mortgage on a house, etc. If a parent just randomly leaves with their child to another state, you are entitled to have a conversation, answers, etc.

B. A Parent who just randomly leaves and goes to another state. Thus abandoning their kids.

C. Business Transactions. If a product doesn't get delivered to me, and the business doesn't answe/goes ghost, I am entitled to an answer especially if I paid money for said product.

Hence why situations where these do happen can go to court.

I'd think it's pretty obvious none of those scenarios are what they were talking about...

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 11:05:54 AM
#9
Zikten posted...
term was invented by a woman, but men have taken it over. It used to just mean a person who can't get laid. Now it is about being angry about that fact, blaming women and being an asshole

I heard the lady who created the term is pissed about how its changed

In which case I'd say the "new" definition is much better.

Someone who is seeking casual sex and has yet to be successful is just... a person.
Someone in that position who has become frustrated, angry, and willing to embrace toxic masculinity and misogyny in response is much more worthy of a label.

I'm curious as to why she thought the former even needed a label.

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TopicWhat exactly is an incel?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 10:59:36 AM
#5
The word is a portmanteau of "involuntary" and "celibate" but that's only its literal definition. In context it refers to someone who wants a sexual relationship, has difficulty finding one, and has negative attitudes toward the opposite sex (99.9% of the time women) as a result. They feel they are being victimized by women shunning them.

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TopicIncels: 'I wish women would look past my height and appreciate my personality.'
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 10:53:11 AM
#141
Flauros posted...
Top 3 tips to getting a good relationship

Don't be a simp
Don't be a cuck
Dont be fake

Can you elaborate on that one?

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TopicMan receives the first successful eye transplant surgery! This is now a thing!
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 9:56:22 AM
#23
BlueKat posted...
Don't get overly optimistic--the implanted eyes show no signs of actually working and likely never will

The article itself says that. It's just a step, but that's how every journey begins. Also he claims to be gaining some sensation in it, so it'll be interesting to see how it's progressed over the next few months.

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TopicIt's kinda crazy how James Bond has never had a good finale
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 8:28:19 AM
#24
GeminiDeus posted...
So, why do you think it is people complain about "unnecessary" sequels but don't complain about getting "another Bond movie?" I've never been into the Bond series, though my father liked the movies and I've watched some with him back in the late 80's when I was a kid.

It's a series of adventures of the week. "Come see more of this character" rather than a complete narrative with a conclusion. The Craig era notwithstanding, but that has definitively concluded and the only way forward is another reboot.

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TopicIf the universe created nothing, who or what created that nothing?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 8:10:54 AM
#27
OriginalPlain2 posted...
if god can will it, can he not know or forget

if god created an identical deity such as himself, and the identical deity declares himself true God which would be the true creator

can god go back in time before he was created (for those pesky who created god ?s)

That's why omnipotence is nonsensical.

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TopicIt's kinda crazy how James Bond has never had a good finale
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 8:04:40 AM
#21
My problem with NTTD is that if a villain is going to actually kill Bond, they'd better be the best damn villain of all time. Safin was decidedly not. NTTD was written backwards, and it shows.

But Daniel Craig and Lea Seydoux do a great job in that final scene. Whatever problems the movie (and Craig saga as a whole) had, the caliber of acting on display was never one of them.

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TopicIs It Evil to Discourage Republicans From Voting?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:59:07 AM
#23
Ricemills posted...
Yes. It's evil.

Don't be evil to fight evil.

Dark_Arbron posted...
The question wasnt about preventing them from voting, just talking them out of it. In other words debating politics and trying to change their minds. Nothing evil about that.


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TopicRepublican urges Ohio to "ignore the results" of election
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:58:30 AM
#18
Goldice posted...
That's the line now? Voting has been hijacked by progressives?

If they had any self awareness theyd be asking themselves what using the term progressive as a negative says about them.

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TopicIs It Evil to Discourage Republicans From Voting?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:50:44 AM
#19
GGuirao13 posted...
Yes. Every law-abiding citizen should be allowed to vote, regardless of their political affiliation.

The question wasnt about preventing them from voting, just talking them out of it. In other words debating politics and trying to change their minds. Nothing evil about that.

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TopicMrBeast gets criticism for building wells in Africa
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:49:14 AM
#242
DnDer posted...
That's why taxing them to the point they can't be billionaires is the first necessary step.

Ill rephrase, the rich.

I agree no one should be a billionaire - concentrating that much money in one place is the other side of a rather nasty coin: this is how many people are correspondingly poor.

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TopicMrBeast gets criticism for building wells in Africa
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:45:23 AM
#239
ToteAll posted...
This is very correct.

That's why heavily regulated and taxed capitalism is the best.

This. I think most of us critical of capitalism would be satisfied if tax loopholes were closed, tax rates on the rich increased (and the funds used appropriately) and workers were paid well and protected.

We dont need billionaires to cease to exist entirely. As long as they dont wield the ridiculous amount of economic and political power they currently do.

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TopicRepublican urges Ohio to "ignore the results" of election
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:39:37 AM
#7
Wouldnt it be nice if openly encouraging illegal subversion of democracy had consequences?

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TopicIsrael/Palestine War: Live Thread 5 (Gaza Invaded)
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:37:38 AM
#105
The US saying it has not found evidence of war crimes in Gaza is like a mother insisting her son is a good boy whod never hurt anyone while hes on trial for murder with 30 witnesses, DNA and CCTV evidence and a signed confession confirming his actions were done in cold blood with zero remorse.

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TopicCharacter that uses a Rapier
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:32:25 AM
#79
ablegator posted...
Nu Wa Dynasty Warriors

Aww, I thought Id be the first to think of her. Well played.

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TopicMrBeast gets criticism for building wells in Africa
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:30:32 AM
#236
ToteAll posted...
Has anyone mentioned that the entire reason he can do all this good is capitalism?

Just checking.

Itd just be nice if more people did it. The problem isnt entirely the fact that wealth is funnelled to the top - its that most of the top do nothing with it and often turn out to be terrible fucking people too.

For every MrBeast, there are dozens of Bobby Kotticks.

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TopicIf get a Do Not Resuscitate order, please make sure your shit is in order
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:22:17 AM
#55
ToteAll posted...
This is mostly correct but apnea isn't the criteria, it's cardiac arrest. Never do CPR on someone with a pulse.

Yes. Im facepalming. Thats like the most basic of the basic.


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TopicMrBeast gets criticism for building wells in Africa
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:20:41 AM
#230
TetsuoS2 posted...
dude always talks about stuff with 100% confidence regardless if it's right or wrong. Like with the Cait Sith pronounciation topic.

What was his take there? I didnt follow that topic.

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TopicPelosi attacker believed he was breaking up child sex ring
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:18:49 AM
#5
ArsGoetia posted...
holy shit that was only a year ago? feels like it was in 2020 or something

Thinking the same thing. That attack had to be more than a year ago, right?

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TopicPelosi attacker believed he was breaking up child sex ring
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:18:27 AM
#4
And shit like this is why those who spread these conspiracy theories and propaganda need to face consequences.

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TopicIf get a Do Not Resuscitate order, please make sure your shit is in order
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:13:23 AM
#51
party_animal07 posted...
Would CPR work on a gunshot victim? I saw it in a TV show recently and it didn't make sense to me.

Its to be performed any time someone isnt breathing. It doesnt mean their lungs have been damaged - apnea can be caused by any number of things.

Just make sure that once you start, you dont stop until paramedics arrive. You have a duty of care at that point.

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TopicPutin set to announce 2024 "reelection" campaign
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:06:39 AM
#44
majin_nemesis posted...
i hope Russian people vote him out... oh wait

that guy isn't a nerd because nerds are smart

like the UN doesn't know exactly what's going on in Russia

Oh, I agree they do. Just like they know about human rights violations in China. They just dont want to rock the boat by calling these things out.

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TopicDo guys really like those ridiclously big lip fillers/injections girls get?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:04:43 AM
#10
Ive never seen cosmetic surgery make a person look better.

(Im not counting surgery to correct a deformity or treat injury among that statement. I only mean cosmetic surgery for vanity reasons.)

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TopicIf the universe created nothing, who or what created that nothing?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:01:44 AM
#23
ai123 posted...
That is the opposite of what this means. God is not necessary for creation.

Its also textbook fallacy.

You say God didnt create the universe! Then where did it come from, huh? Right, you have nothing. So well go with God. So far thats worked fine and doesnt need reviewing.

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TopicIsrael/Palestine War: Live Thread 5 (Gaza Invaded)
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 5:59:27 AM
#102
DnDer posted...
Reminds me of a story where cops shot up the queue outside a restaurant or nightclub, injuring several and killing at least one... while not once hitting the suspect they were pursuing into the area.

A shame I can't dig into the 261 archives and find that instance, but maybe someone else remembers it?

Its amazing how they get to ignore the basic fundamentals of gun safety without consequence.

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Topic83% of Americans will have to work into their 70s in order to afford to retire
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 5:57:34 AM
#29
LeoRavus posted...
That's why nothing changes in America. We don't have what it takes to fight for much. There may be a protest here and there that fizzles into nothing, but generally we're too unorganized and lazy to stand up for ourselves.

Not to mention that with the way US police behave any serious protest will likely be met with disproportionate force.

Its at the point where if someone asks me if I could be a cop, I would cite conscientious objection. Doubly so for riot cops.

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Topic83% of Americans will have to work into their 70s in order to afford to retire
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 4:48:49 AM
#26
BlueKat posted...
Are you sure about that? Maybe not as bad as the boomers but unless you're Gen Z or younger, you've had your negative impact, even if unintentionally, especially if you own a home.

Ive been unemployed most of my life, and dont own a home, so Ive negatively affected no one.

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TopicHave you ever heard of a console called the Saturn?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 4:46:31 AM
#14
Even better, anyone else heard of the Neptune? It was to be a standalone 32X (or rather a combined Genesis/32X with no need to attach them).

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TopicIf the universe created nothing, who or what created that nothing?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 4:41:42 AM
#20
punkfanalways posted...
If it was created by god then who created god?

By definition an omnipotent being must always have existed. And thats just the tip of the why omnipotence cannot logically exist iceberg.

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TopicAt what age does life start to be come shit health wise?9
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 4:33:25 AM
#9
Guide posted...
33 and still going strong. But I don't smoke or do drugs, only drink when my Italian inlaws strongly insist, and maintain a regular exercise schedule.

Heh, I drink a bottle of gin or sometimes vodka a night. Some of us just need it to tolerate life.


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TopicWhat's your unpopular opinion?
Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 4:30:52 AM
#151
MartavisBryant posted...
I don't know if this qualifies as an opinion, but I can't tell any difference in the quality of acting among professional actors.

I get this too. I only notice the quality of acting when its bad acting. Otherwise people talk about, say, Sean Connery as James Bond being some kind of enigmatic screen presence and I just dont see it. I think he was good, but the magic just doesnt click with me. Not just with him, but any actor.

Maybe I just dont get immersed enough.

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