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GANON1025 posted...

So if I want to fight Echidna just for the evasion vest, there wouldn't happen to be any easy ways to do that?

I used Genji Shield on a tank with Provoke (WoL), Marie to guard against status ailments and to provide elemental protection, and Fingersnap/Bushido Freedom to eliminate Charm when it cropped up. Marie makes the trial a breeze, honestly, as she eliminates every single nasty status effect except Death and Charm, and those are easily handled with the above methods. Beyond that, any chainer with elements it doesn't resist, and you're good to go. I actually had to do her twice because I missed the Esper kill, and it was very easy both times.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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I'm honestly terrified to try this boss, even if I'm getting some idea of how to tackle it. Not going to bother until they fix the Necro Dagger/Serpent Mace issue, though.

What sort of team loadouts are people here using? Tilith seems a no-brainer for the No White Magic and providing stat-break protection. I've read that Zargabaath could help a lot with item usage to keep MP up and provides resistances to confusion and blind, and provide elemental protection. Debating between WoL and VoE as a tank for either breaks or stat-break protection respectively. Orlandeau for damage and MP drain probably, and probably a friend Orlandeau since my dupe isn't up to speed equipment-wise. From there I'm not sure what my last support unit should be. Rem could provide Re-raise, MP Drain, and act as a finisher for damage. Rikku for Hyper Nul All, Hyper Mighty G, and anything else to throw into the rotation. Soleil for significantly better buffs.Marie for elemental and status protection.

I dunno, I think I might have the team to pull this off, I just don't have the gear or the skill. Pretty sure this is going to be the hardest thing I've tried, other than my abysmal Sheratan attempt.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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It makes me wonder how robust their random number generation actually is, whether it's as close as we can get or if it falls into the same pitfalls of less refined RNG that develops patterns and series after so long. After all, the odds of someone getting 4-5 of a single 5* is pretty slim, and yet it happens so often.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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The Puzzle and Dragons example I cited is actually exactly like what we're seeing here. When one of the evolution plans was put out there to reinvigorate some of the oldest gacha monsters, the original plan was that users would use a duplicate unit in order to fuse into that higher evolution. However, with no way to get a dupe other than the gacha, that ran afoul of the rather stringent laws Japan has on the matter. Maybe it was just fan blowback threatening to pull law enforcement in, but with P&D being the most successful gacha game on the market, I don't think they were willing to take the chance either way.

The just using any 5* base seems like it might skirt the law, but I'm still doubtful it actually would. You still need to pull something from the gacha in order to get that evolution, regardless of whether it's a dupe, and there's no way to guarantee that you'll even get a 5*, much less a duplicate. P&D solved it by making the requirements boss drops from the hardest dungeons, because the energy needed to run them is technically an infinite resource. In-game currency (magic stones, lapis) is not, and I think that's where these kinds of things really run afoul of the law. The developers aren't required to make in-game currency available, especially as freely as they do in Japan, whereas energy to run dungeons is free just with a bit of patience. So without that guarantee of in-game currency, locking content behind it that isn't base-level units is forbidden because eventually those resources will be depleted. Dupe or not, if Gumi/Alim decide to stop handing out lapis, that suddenly makes those evolutions impossible to obtain after a certain point, and locks them behind a paywall.

I'm sure the law his hellishly more complicated than that, but that's the best I can interpret what I've seen.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Looking forward to trying this one out, just need to figure out how many keys I'm going to need.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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I may have dropped more NRG pots than I should have (down to 50 left in reserve), but I got a crapton of units leveled with Cactuar Desert this weekend. And with Kingsglaive only needing a couple more runs to finish the moogle, and nothing I want from the Halloween event, I think a good week of TMR farming will be a nice break.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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I don't think it'll hold up, unless gacha laws in Japan have changed. Puzzle and Dragons tried something similar a few years ago, requiring monsters only available from gacha pulls for evolving monsters, and the gacha control laws came down hard on that idea. Something about not requiring the gacha for any unlockable content, and this definitely qualifies.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Decided to pour all my resources in because why not? I can tell that the grinding and RNG isnt going to keep me interested for nearly as long as some players, so Ill enjoy what I get when I get it. Didnt get Sakura, but did get Flame Veritas and a second Reberta.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Lemme tell ya, those high SPR Ayaka that are popping up in Arena? Reminds me a lot of those 100% evasion units that stopped a few of my early arena attempts cold in their tracks. Sure, she's almost always the only unit alive, because so few can survive 2x Shantotto and 2x Victoria, but her high SPR and Mechanical Heart, and the ability to fully heal herself (which the AI does often) makes her exceedingly annoying to take down. It's kind of cool the first few times, then I realize she's yet another glorious time-waster in the arena.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Just a few more tickets because I was bored at work. After my luck today, I think I'll wait on pulling anything else. I might even *gasp* save the 10+1 ticket for a while. I'm sure it'll start burning a hole in my pocket eventually though.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Only banner unit I've gotten on Kingsglaive was Glauca, and I did both half price and free dailies. In 12 tickets and a half price, I already have 2 BCL.

Kingsglaive sure felt stingy to me. Hardly anyone on my FL had bonus units up, where usually there'd at least be a 3* most everywhere.

Edit: So I just realized that the castle dungeons take no energy, so the only energy cost is for farming keys. Still doesn't feel worthwhile to me, but at least that's better. It might be worth doing the cactuars and gil snappers after the weekend is done just to level more units and keep my gil reserves from falling too fast.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Well Cerebus was easy. Not surprising, though I was stupid and used Reflect just because I wanted Marie to do something after she put buffs up, and I forgot the mission. Debating if the completionism is worth the 20 NRG for a materia that won't see any use.

And I'm not seeing the value in farming keys. Sure, the drops could be nice, but having to run two dungeons so that one of them can drop useful things? And the cryst dungeon drops all of them, so you can't even target like you can in story events. I think I'm seeing TMR farming in my future next week.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Spent ten tickets so far, will probably use more later on, but for now the best I got was two Black Cat Lid and my second Ashe.

RaidenZeroX posted...

Why would you use 3* EX tickets or 10+1 tickets before the rate up? I have 4 10+1 tickets and 24 EX tickets. Instead of blowing all of them for a roughly 50% chance at a rainbow, Ill have roughly 2 rainbows for having patience and waiting. Willpower!

A) Some of us don't have that kind of willpower, especially if that rate up is four+ months away

B) Some of us don't even know if we'll be playing the game long enough for the rate up to come

C) Some of us have been through the song and dance of chasing good (even if we don't care which ones they are) units in gacha games before, and increased chances are still subject to RNG

D) Some of us just pull for fun because we like the thrill of pulling, even if we get crap.

Yes, you're right, it makes no sense to use tickets now that have a better chance of benefitting us in a few months time. But you're just gonna have to accept the fact that some of us don't care, and telling us we're not making sense ain't gonna change that. It's a game, and playing in a suboptimal manner may just be more fun for some of us.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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I'm pretty sure that's it. I actually gave up on Tidus becuase I was relying on him for both buffs and damage, and when you can't chain Quick Hit and have to stop every few turns to reapply buffs, he doesn't work out quite as well. I'd bring him in for support, but bring someone else to chain. Marie was actually my MVP, as her Love You All was a great healing cushion. Wish I could remember the rest of my team comp, because once I swapped Orlandeau in, the fight was a cakewalk.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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BakusaiTenketsu posted...

Once 7* Units are released, that will probably be the end of FFBE for me. Same thing happened to me in Brave Frontier when 7* Units were released. You can only play chase the carrot for so long.

That's what killed Puzzle and Dragons for me. So many cards were just as powerful as the other that it didn't really matter what uber-creature you had, they could all take on the majority of the content available, and all had trouble with the hardest content. FFBE's improvements, that I've noticed, don't scale exponentially though, so that will help with the longevity. But it's also a significantly greater grind to get everything, so that kind of hurts it a bit too. Farming all but the most difficult dungeons in PAD was fun because the shifting orbs and a lot of the mechanics they introduced were interesting (for the most part; fuck damage shields). I don't see that happening with FFBE.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Who else could be a decent sub in for A2 for the fast method? I can't pull of perfect chains with Tidus comfortably enough to use him, and I'm worried Orlandeau isn't powerful enough. Only other chainer I have isn't close to being built up yet.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Oooooh, I hadn't realized that. I'm guessing you went with the slow method then? Anything you had to be careful of or watch out for, other than the obvious World Destroyer? What was the rest of your team comp? I might start planning to be able to do that soon.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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You used to be able to, which allowed you to equip four L&A without a Genji Glove or Bowie Knife. It was a glitch, and one that apparently we knew the fix was coming for eventually. It just sucks that it happens right as I pulled her. Not a huge deal for me since I don't have her daggers, and so I'm not losing out on the magic boost anyway, but it does mean that if they ever bring her daggers back, I'll have to weigh a DW vs L&A for a materia slot, or use my Genji Glove on her instead of Tidus.

How did Rem help you take down Aigaion? I might as well see if I can pull it off once I have her built up since I've got her.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Well shite. Looks like it really was Gumi fixing the Rem+Aqua Blade bug. That certainly kills a lot of why people use her. I know that it shouldn't have been possible to do that in the first place, but it really sucks to pull her right when they fix the issue.I could get around it with a Bowie Knife though, so I guess it's not all bad., especially since I don't have Defender's Daggers to begin with meaning I'm not losing any magic.

Looks like I'm farming up a Bowie Knife after all.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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I've tried it both ways, equipping it first and second.. I made sure to unequip it from the arena team that has it, though I have yet to try and remove it from the 10-man team.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Well crap. Every time I go to equip Rem with a dagger and Aqua Blade, I'm getting an Invalid Equipment Data error. Seems this happened after the last maintenance, and I can't find if anyone found a fix for this particular issue.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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If it is, I'm sure as heck not arguing. The only reason Hein was bearable was I had enough bonus units to make farming him worthwhile, and the only reason I farmed Shadow Lord as much as I did was the raid currency being worth the Gil. Here, if I had to deal with that level of tediousness without enough bonus units to give me anywhere near a decent amount of currency? Yeah, no deal. I'll happily take an event I can hit Repeat on after the mind-numbing tedium of the last two.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Got a Glauca for my daily pull, so at least I have one bonus unit to offer people, and one for general use since a lot of my friends aren't running bonus units. It's something at least, and someday it might net me the sword if I ever farm it up.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Haven't cleared it all, but hoping Tidus can get me through to one-shot. If I can't get any good bonus units, I should at least be able to do this quickly.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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If I had two Ashe's, I'd probably swap either my double Victorias or Shantottos out. But with Petrify still being a thing for me (no Ribbons or Discernments), and Tilith not having a great way to deal with Petrify, I run my single Ashe for Northswain's Glow when I get unlucky. Otherwise, I'd totally put Tilith in without question.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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I gave up on status effect cheese. I'll still slap Razzmatazz on someone if Black Magic is banned, but otherwise I've had way more success using 2x Shantotto, 2x Victoria, and Ashe. The healing can't quite keep up if I get slammed by a ton of powerful attacks, but if I do I'm usually dead anyway, so it doesn't matter much. Plus, most times I hear Shantotto's laughter from Dissidia in my head as the Tornado is slaughtering everything, so that's amusing too. :P
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Two tickets and the two dailies netted me nothing. I've no desire to put anything else in this banner, and will pretty much only do dailies to get a bonus unit. If I don't get one, oh well.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Yeah, I think I'm stuck with needing too many things. I need elemental protection, which Rikku can't provide until Turn 2, and makes her first turn useless. Tilith has got to be my healer, I doubt anyone else can keep up. Either WoL or VoE for my tank, leaning towards VoE after I get him potted because he provides the earth resistance to get through the first half. Marie to get through the second half. And Tidus/Orlandeau for chaining. Swap one person out, and they're down either the valuable elemental protection, reraise, or I lose some support that I desperately need.

'Course I'm way behind in TMRs and equipment anyway, so I probably shouldn't even be thinking about tackling Sheratan for the next several months.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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What sort of defensive gear were you using? I decided to try it on a lark, and I got absolutely wrecked by the damage first turn, and that was with WoL using his Atk/Mag break.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Goddamn! Wonder what the odds of six rainbows in one 11 pull are.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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That's pretty cool. Makes Iron Will an even more useful sword to have.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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So because I have no self control, I blew the 13 Ex tickets as well. Nothing to exciting for most, another Goken and Rikku that aren't needed at all. But one went from Gold -> Rainbow!

https://imgur.com/gallery/up6xD

Not one I was after by any means, but certainly not one to be disappointed in. That's two 5* bases from non-guaranteed pulls in one day, and one of those was very high on my most wanted units list. Pretty sure I'm not getting anything else for a good long while.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I got Dark Veritas.

Im happy but also I dont have Orlandu so no bomb-ass chaining for me.

No Agrias either? Her enhancements are expensive, but they turn her into Orlandeau with a slightly weaker damage modifier. And outside of 10-mans, you shouldn't have any problems whatsoever finding Orlandeau or DV partners.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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So simply curious, have we ever seen a King Mog event repeat? All the returning events I've seen so far have been exploration events, and I highly doubt they'd repeat a farming event, but I want to see if I have even the smallest hope of nabbing Rem's daggers. Otherwise, I just have to deal with losing out on more magic for her.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Noctis.

Huh. Well, that's at least a potential candidate for the 100% moogle.

Edit: Threw caution to the wind and used my 10+1. First crystal was a Blue->Gold and another Snow, but crystal #2 was a rainbow!

https://i.imgur.com/t88bv3G.png?1

YAAAAAAAAAAS! I'm just sad that I can't get her dagger.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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I think I've gotten one Gold->Rainbow, and that was Gilgamesh a few weeks ago on a single ticket.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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That is a lot of good stuff from the Fan Festa. Definitely looking forward to all those pulls when my self-control goes out the window.

And first Dark Knight Soul get! With this I can get Tidus up to 946 Attack, assuming he takes every last good piece of equipment and materia. I don't think there's much left I can get TMR-wise for him other than Desch's Earrings, so I can finally focus on other things.

So on that note, I know that it's really easy to get dupes of 3* units, so getting their TMRs (when they're valuable) is easy. It's less so for certain 4* units with really valuable TMRs, so I'm wondering how I should handle this. As an example, I have three Vanilles in my box, and mages really seem to need all the TMR help they can get. Am I better off doing one at a time, or do I get more value out of getting one of them sooner by raising two and fusing? Obviously if I play long enough it's possible to get more, but I figure one shouldn't count on that with 4* units.

Meanwhile, I think I'll get started on my Timmy army.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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The Mana Sword posted...

Yeah its easier to save when there are units you really want.

Now that there arent any for me, Im finding harder to save, which is why I spent most of my stash chasing Ayaka.

And that's where I'm at. There are units that I would like to have, but they're in the pool already. Those that are out there look like they'd be nice, but I doubt they're so amazing that they're absolute must-haves. People can rave about CG Sakura and Fina all they want, but unless they absolutely break current content, I'm not sure I see the point in chasing them other than to have the next big shiny. I'd rather pull steadily and get my satisfaction of cracking that crystal, rather than sit on a hundred tickets on the off-chance I won't be disappointed.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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The Mana Sword posted...

The allure of the pull is strong.

Indeed it is. No idea how people save so many tickets and lapis. My will is just not that strong.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Bah, that didn't last long. Sudden urge to do a 10+1. Got another Kefka, Aria, my fourth King, and Goken out of it.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Daily got me Yuri, 4* ticket nabbed a second Desch, and five regular tickets got me a second Kefka, Silvia, and Meliadoul. All in all, that's actually pretty good. I think I'll just stick with the dailies from now on, until the urge to pull that lever again calls to me.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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So apparently the recommendation of the 'Should You Pull?' reviewer is to not pull on this banner. Goken's passives and active skillsets conflict, Silvia isn't even a poor-man's Fry, one 3* has to wait for her 6* awakening to release before being useable, and the other is only useful as TMR fodder. And good luck getting Ayaka.

Well that's a bit sobering. I figured Silvia wouldn't be great, but it's still disappointing to know she's pretty much useless as a unit.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Still gonna pull for Sylvia, but probably won't pull as hard if that sword is showing up anytime soon. That 10% MP is for sure worth losing 4 Mag.

Just wish Sylvia wasn't stuck on a banner with another 4* unit that I most definitely don't want.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Well the letter from the producer specifically addressed working to create more fun events, so I think the complaints about everything post-Nier seems to have gotten through at least on the surface. To be fair, they are somewhat constrained by what JP gives them to work with, wanting to keep things similar and make sure the GL-exclusive changes don't completely cheapen the events, so it's not all on Gumi.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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There is more to life than the ability to chain. Insane speak I know, but I think it's true. Maybe. I mean, who's going to argue with 5-turn 200% LB gain for your party? It seems like such a cheap thing to throw up when your support unit has a free turn, but I dunno, maybe people have shied away from all but the best accessories. I think I'll need to fiddle around with it some.

Geez, so little to talk about with two weeks of tedious events. What's upcoming that everyone's excited for, besides Ayaka? Or what project are you using the time to work on that you're excited to have complete?
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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So I'm a little curious why I don't see more buzz around using Rikku's Pouch for content. It feels like there should be at least one unit per team with enough free turns to make use of it somewhere. When it came out it was an incredibly popular TMR, but it seems to have fallen out of the spotlight despite how good it is. Is an accessory slot really that valuable, even on non-DPS units?
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Rikku's Pouch TMR get! Now to figure out what to work on next.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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Most of the rewards are still nice for me, except for that sword. That just isn't going to be worth the cost.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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I've tossed the Germinas boots and Charm Bangle on my Soleil. Only problem is when you run into the map where you're supposed to run into enemies. Last one I did had a whopping two collection points, and I think I was supposed to get the rest of my lanterns via battles, as enemies were dropping 15-20 a pop instead of the usual 4-5. Oh well.

Really need to take the time to get that cape; it sounds awesome.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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So it looks like all of the Chambers got a PRO difficulty added. Wonder how those'll shape up for farming stuff.
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NNID/PSN: Servillo
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