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TopicThe cop who murdered John Crawford is lying about what happen.
Frolex
01/05/18 1:23:08 AM
#8
iClockwork posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
iClockwork posted...
Crawford was shot then continued to reach for the gun. Fair.

Fuck off...

Woah, a cop lying about something that happened after they killed someone....this is definitely one for the history books.

Have you watched the video? He clearly goes for the gun.


which kos shitposters alt is this
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TopicThe more I think about it, the more the Star Wars ST parallels the Halo RS
Frolex
01/04/18 11:21:28 PM
#8
Mr_Biscuit posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
prince_leo posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Then the second new entry

weapon_d00d816 posted...
is universally disliked.

lol

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Topicthe challenge of rocketry is not getting up high, but delivering mass up high.
Frolex
01/04/18 9:03:40 AM
#2
i got a a massive rocket for ya right here buddy hehehe
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TopicAll curse words should be censored with too many stars like *******************.
Frolex
01/04/18 1:46:11 AM
#3
TC is a **************************************
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TopicMan Arrested After Showing Officer Finger Circle During Traffic Stop
Frolex
01/04/18 1:42:15 AM
#38
TopicMy PS4 theme>>>>> yours
Frolex
01/04/18 1:37:01 AM
#22
TopicWhat is the best Witcher and just cause games?
Frolex
01/04/18 12:50:45 AM
#5
St0rmFury posted...
Just Cause 2
Witcher 3

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TopicOne thing technology has definitely made worse
Frolex
01/03/18 9:39:33 AM
#15
It doesn't annoy me as much as all devices replacing regular buttons with those stupid "virtual buttons"
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TopicCITI: There is a 40% chance Apple will acquire Netflix
Frolex
01/02/18 10:35:10 PM
#36
Darmik posted...
I wonder how long the video game industry has until it is also swallowed up by massive conglomerates.


Lol, about negative 10 years buddy
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Topicwhat's it like being zombiepelican?
Frolex
01/02/18 7:53:28 AM
#220
I mean I think we have a good answer to the topic title by now
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TopicXSquadala, We're off.
Frolex
01/02/18 4:26:09 AM
#5
I can't wait to headbutt some police cars
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TopicThis look familiar to you?
Frolex
01/02/18 3:10:50 AM
#5
Topica Porn chick says Wrestling is a spectacle....she has taken BBCs...yes 2+
Frolex
01/01/18 11:15:40 PM
#3
why are you hung up about the color of another man's penis
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TopicEveryone is partying and a mod is on a SJW rampage tonight.
Frolex
01/01/18 3:01:34 AM
#19
TopicNow i remember why i hated the GTA online community
Frolex
12/31/17 6:33:55 AM
#4
Gamer99z posted...
People actually play GTA in public lobbies and not just with friends? Lol.


you literally can't play any of the new content, including the new heists, in private lobbies
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Topic17 second rick and morty rap.
Frolex
12/30/17 6:43:11 AM
#12
TopicA hot 18+ yr old girl needs to collab with Chris Hansen for the best prank ever.
Frolex
12/30/17 6:40:51 AM
#4
They already did this on one of those painfully obviously fake prank shows
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Topicits ok to be white
Frolex
12/30/17 5:40:58 AM
#10
TopicArrest made in CoD-related swatting death of Kansas man.
Frolex
12/30/17 5:07:54 AM
#10
and what about the piece of shit that pulled the trigger?
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TopicRage fuel: crazy woman steals Trump hat and goes on rampage
Frolex
12/30/17 4:05:18 AM
#34
Who was tc's main again? was he another hotlin account?
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TopicImagine gaming in 2020
Frolex
12/30/17 12:58:41 AM
#4
nah, they'll have figured out something even worse than lootboxes by then
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TopicWhy do people say "dm me" instead of "pm" now?
Frolex
12/29/17 9:12:00 AM
#4
TopicDo some people seriously think Breath of the Wild is a generic open world game?
Frolex
12/29/17 1:52:47 AM
#95
Darmik posted...

And sometimes it takes the slightest variation to make the biggest impact. The climbing mechanics alone is a huge variation. Totally won't surprise me if we get an ability stat in Elder Scrolls that lets you climb everything now.

All Halo did was do slight variations to the FPS formula and it was hugely influential and innovative.


I mean, even the climbing mechanics were already pretty heavily lifted from other games like Assassin's Creed. And halo wasn't released at a time when there was a console sci-fi action shooter being released on a seemingly monthly basis. The point is, there's nothing about BotW that takes me by surprise in a way that another open world game released in the past five years couldn't.
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TopicDo some people seriously think Breath of the Wild is a generic open world game?
Frolex
12/29/17 1:34:36 AM
#91
Darmik posted...

I praise New Vegas for completely different reasons. That game gives a freedom over how you proceed over the narrative. I praised Fallout 1 and 2 in the OP because it did something similar. Obsidian followed that path though. Not Bethesda.

I wouldn't call New Vegas a generic open world game either.


Fair enough, but my point was that there's nothing truly novel about BoTW's game design.

Eh those are more like traditional open world side missions to me.


Either way, it boils down to creating gameplay loops that can be easily propagated in reptition over the entire scope of the game worldDarmik posted...


There's room for both. I totally get why someone would prefer The Witcher 3 over Breath of the Wild.

I like that they both moved away from 'checklist open world design' in totally different ways.

Witcher 3 did it by giving story context for all of the side content. They tried to make each story unique. They connected a lot of the side quests. There were ? Waypoints on the map but they were of no consequence and just had shitty weapons.

BOTW did it by placing everything on the world to discover on your own and designing the world through visual landmarks instead of waypoints.

To me something like Watch Dogs is a generic open world game. It just followed the structure set by the genre and did nothing new with it.


But it's always a tradeoff. The more content you have that the player is likely to miss, and the more open you make the content the less you can make that content stand out from each other. The way BoTW interprets the formula by driving players through the open world content by highlighting landmarks is an interesting one, but that's all it is; one slight variation of the formula.
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TopicDo some people seriously think Breath of the Wild is a generic open world game?
Frolex
12/29/17 1:13:31 AM
#83
Darmik posted...

Intentionally?


Sure. You can walk into the casino in new vegas, pop benny in the face and then tell yes man the mojave factions aren't worth wasting your time over, for instance

Like what? I don't recall puzzles being needed to find pigeons, flags or orbs.

To me the exploring the overworld and discovering stuff on my own is what made it memorable. Finding my first dragon. Trying to light all of the torches for that professor guy only to be hindered by rain. Solving those riddles that revealrd shrines. Climbing and surfing down mountains. Shit like that.


Stuff like platforming puzzles for radio towers or hacking or whatever the gimmick dujour is in the individual ubisoft open world game of the month. It's all fun the first few times you do it, then the next 50 hours are spent repeating the same loops over and over with slight variations in location/

To each their own. I want more freedom in these games after BOTW. I don't want to encounter walls I can't climb anymore.


I guess so. I just care more about unique, well crafted stories and quests than I do about some fascination with "see that mountain? you can climb it".
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TopicDo some people seriously think Breath of the Wild is a generic open world game?
Frolex
12/29/17 12:19:02 AM
#79
Darmik posted...

I honestly don't see it. I can't think of any open world game that has 5 destinations as objectives and nothing else. I suppose there's also the memories to get the better ending. Pretty much all of them have a scripted main quest that takes you all across the world. You generally bounce between the main characters who give you missions. Usually you are given objects or keys that unlock specific main quest dungeons or levels. BOTW avoids all of that.


I mean, most of bethesda's open world games let you get to the credits about as fast as you can in breath of the wild.


Even that has a unique twist.

Generally a collectable is just something you find in the world to collect.
Shrines are mini-dungeons that glow from a distance. That's probably the most plain sort of objective. Similar to a dungeon in Skyrim. But they're never tied to a story mission. If you find them you can do them
Korok seeds are numerous. But they're mini-puzzles. If there's a weird circle of rocks you plop a rock down to find one. Or you shoot an arrow. Stuff like that. These do recycle but I don't think the game intends for you to collect all of them. Hell some people manage to beat the game without even finding the guy you give the Korok seeds to. These players don't even know what they unlock
Dragons are huge beasts that travel the world. You can stumble on one. It's not really a collectable. They're just a part of the world. You can shoot them for a scale. I don't think the game even prompts you to do that.

That's about it. Outside of that you can destroy enemy settlements for weapons. Or just look for treasure chests. But you don't have to. There's no real checklist for you to follow.


The collectibles in most open world games usually have some sort of gimmick or puzzle attached to them too. The point is, there's not really many individual pieces of content or quests in the game that are truly memorable. Even the major dungeons recycle a surprising amount of content and environments between them, which is something I wasn't really expecting from a zelda game

I'm not saying it's gonna be a renaissance. But I hope developers do take elements from it for sure. Similar to how major FPS games influenced the genre.

Take GTA for example. Wouldn't it be cool if you could just..rob the bank whenever you wanted?


Not really, to be honest. The heist missions in GTA 5 are far more interesting and memoreable than any of the open ended stuff they did for Online. And sure, a big part of that is they've been turning the game into a F2P grind, but even the heavily scripted online heist mission chains are the best part of the multiplayer by far. That's the main problem i have with the open world genre. The wider scale your game is, the less focus you can put on the individual pieces of the game.
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TopicDo some people seriously think Breath of the Wild is a generic open world game?
Frolex
12/28/17 11:47:15 PM
#75
Darmik posted...

The 'gimmick' isn't restricted to the final boss. It's everything.

IIRC the only things you need to unlock are;
- Gaining access to the divine beasts
- The final memory

That's it. You can access everything else from the start if you wanted.


Right, but like I said, unless you're going out of your way to skip most of the games content, the game design has the same basic flow as most open world games do.

Darmik posted...
What points of interest on the map are you talking about? The far majority of the stuff I found were spotted from the towers. Outside of that I only remember Kakariko Village and the Divine Beasts appearing on the map. Would you even call those breadcrumbs?


I'm talking about stuff like shrines, korok seeds dragons; whatever generic source of collectible you happen be in the near vicinity of. It's a game of scraping the game world for fluff until you get bored of it.


No specific thing hasn't been done elsewhere. But I can't think of a game that has combined all of these elements in this way.

It reminds me of Halo CE in that aspect. Nothing specific in that game was new. But the way they combined it all was.


Sure, I can definitely tell it has a lot more passion and less cynicsim behind it than something like original WatchUnderscoreDogs, but there's nothing about it that makes me think it's broken new ground and paved the way for a creative renaissance in the open world genre.
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TopicDo some people seriously think Breath of the Wild is a generic open world game?
Frolex
12/28/17 11:28:48 PM
#72
People call it a generic open world game because it is. It's got a neat gimmick where you can go to the final boss fight at anytime, but it still mostly shakes out into the same basic gameplay loops as most open world games. Which is chasing points of interest on the map, grinding out whatever collectibles or challenges give you whatever marginal stat boosts you're looking for, occasionally stopping for a genericised fetch quest then rinse and repeat until you get bored and feel like following the main narrative breadcrumbs again. None of its hooks, the mobility, the crafting, the "emergent gameplay" are things that haven't been done before or better in other games.
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TopicI keep forgetting fart cry 5 is even coming out
Frolex
12/28/17 4:57:09 AM
#7
Lonestar2000 posted...
Didn't know it was coming out in 10 years.


i mean you know they're just delaying it so it can be made a ps6 exclusive launch title
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TopicNoob question about L.A. Noire
Frolex
12/28/17 4:53:16 AM
#12
Some cases will give you a cutscene of you getting chewed out by your superior if you flub one of the segments, but they don't keep you from progressing and it has no effect on the story
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Topicthe difference between socialists and capitalists
Frolex
12/27/17 10:00:55 PM
#2
TopicAsh vs Evil Dead is the best* recent resurrection of a long dormant IP
Frolex
12/27/17 9:11:20 PM
#3
Dunno about "best" but it's certainly up there
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TopicYou find the perfect girl but she thinks she's a pony.
Frolex
12/27/17 9:41:00 AM
#8
Topicto the mod who got rid of that gardevoir guy posting in every topic
Frolex
12/27/17 4:54:25 AM
#4
TopicNerfing OP skills in single player games. What are your opinions?
Frolex
12/27/17 4:43:57 AM
#3
if it's extremely OP, a nerf is probably for the best. Although every now and then it can be fun to rofl stomp a game with blatantly broken characters, like pre-nerf knight enchanter and tempest in DA:I
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Topicis robo raiden equipped with vibrating dildo?
Frolex
12/27/17 4:39:19 AM
#2
No, he's like a ken doll. What you see in mgs4 and rising is literally his naked body
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TopicWhy so many Metal Gear topics?
Frolex
12/27/17 4:35:26 AM
#5
Revolver Ocelot
Revolver Ocelot
Revolver Ocelot

Revolver Ocelot

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TopicOtacon slept with his step mother
Frolex
12/27/17 4:29:59 AM
#7
Turbam posted...
He cucked his dad


cucked to death
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TopicOtacon's sister is really hot.
Frolex
12/27/17 4:28:20 AM
#5
Not as hot as his step mom apparently
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TopicI can't believe none of the pedos ever took a swing at Chris Hansen
Frolex
12/26/17 11:16:43 PM
#6
Topicwhy is this board chok full of fucking liberals
Frolex
12/26/17 7:03:17 PM
#12
TopicWhy are White Nationalists seen as bad people?
Frolex
12/26/17 9:49:12 AM
#134
CrimsonRage posted...
Conflict posted...
jborgan posted...
I'm glad Madfoot is back. I can't wait to hear him claim that he's gay, atheist or Hispanic again, or bring up his father who is a lawyer and is an expert on climate change.


He's not going to be back for very long. Was funny seeing his mental breakdown on Hellhole when he got the accounts he stole banned


It's amazing he hasn't gotten nuked for having a Nazi term as a username.

I remember when a guy had a username based off Zyklon-B and he only lasted a few days.


i mean it's the same person dude
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TopicWhy are White Nationalists seen as bad people?
Frolex
12/26/17 9:32:59 AM
#122
remember when you got modded for saying "nazi", let alone actually being one?
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TopicTrump adds Germany to travel ban due to hostages taken at Nakatomi Tower
Frolex
12/25/17 10:42:09 PM
#17
but that's dumb, they aren't terrorists, they're bank robbers pretending to be terrorists
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TopicAre liberals offended by the ending of A Christmas Carol?
Frolex
12/25/17 11:08:35 AM
#7
einegutePerson posted...
CiIantro posted...
hortanz posted...
why are you shitposting on christmas morning

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Topiccant wait for facebook meltdowns when your parents dont buy you the latest iphon
Frolex
12/24/17 8:14:58 AM
#2
TopicPrediction:Budweiser brings back the "wassap" ad for the superbowl
Frolex
12/24/17 7:05:06 AM
#1
I think it's just now irrelevant enough that they can play the nostalgia angle
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TopicFCC knew their reasoning for repealing Net Neutrality was false.
Frolex
12/23/17 10:09:08 PM
#10
Bullet_Wing posted...


Who else actually supported this nonsense in a non trolling way?


literally not a single person who isn't a major shareholder in a telcom corporation
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TopicIs Wolfenstein 2 an SJW game?
Frolex
12/23/17 5:32:30 PM
#13
Ivynn posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Eh. It has some SJWish moments but overall, no.

Wait what


look at who you're replying to
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