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I had Shinobi on SMS. I was stuck for a long time on the 'wall of statues' boss (apparently called Mandara). Eventually I figured it out and was able to beat the game a few times.

the other two I've never heard of
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god I love Carcassonne
Settlers of Catan is good, but I think I'd like it more as a computer game. I don't have good people to play a proper competitive game with.

another one I like enough to play often is Lost Cities
Ticket to Ride is also good, but I don't enjoy it enough to play it tons

some other ok ones include:
Mystery of the Abbey (basically Clue clone with monks)
Shadows over Camelot
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^ thanks for that, awesome
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I'd eat any of those besides the BBQ sauce ones. BBQ sauce does not make good pizza sauce. I'd probably still try one anyway.
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RCtheWSBC posted...

Sahuagin posted...

I guess what you mean is that there are no attractiveness leagues

Yes

so then, there are leagues, they're just social leagues
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pipebomb_phil posted...

Play the DKC games. Cranky is his Grandpa.

So that means DK from DKC has to be DK the third.

hmmm, I always thought Cranky was his dad and DK was DK Jr. Where the heck is DK Jr then?
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LinkPizza posted...

fine for "easy mode"

yeah ok I forgot it was about an easy mode rather than the normal mode. I hate running to the boss though and wouldn't mind that gone even in normal mode.
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DK III as in Donkey Kong the Third? who is that? DK is DK Jr, and Cranky is DK Senior, but I never heard of DK the third.
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Zikten posted...

if I made an easy mode, I think I might only make 2 changes

1. don't have to worry about losing souls when you die. you always keep them

2. put a bonfire right next to every boss

just those 2 things would make the game much less stressful

you would never have to worry about your souls. and when you get to a boss and die, you don't have to keep running back and getting hurt along the way and using up resources before the fight. it would be like Cuphead, where you just fight the boss until you win

no to 1 and 3, those are things that make you afraid and they *should* make you afraid

but yes to 2, at least somewhat. not because that would make it less "stressful" but because it would make it less *tedious*. running a long distance to the boss is not fun or stressful and does not add anything to the experience except tediousness and frustration.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Sahuagin posted...

LoveFool

No, that's the Cardigans.

ah yes, damn, thanks

in that case I don't even know if I know a single song from them
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RCtheWSBC posted...

There are no leagues

so... you would date ICOYAR?

I guess what you mean is that there are no attractiveness leagues, as long as personality can make up for it, or something
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I have 17, but I can't get into that type of "management" game. I tried Motorsport Manager which seemed right up my ally, but I just can't quite get interested enough to keep playing it.
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took a course as a teen once that was a staged murder investigation. it was based on a real murder and had crime scenes and evidence packages that the class went through to try to figure out what happened. (uh, still remember the trip to the medical examiner's office watching autopsy video...).

so, it happens that I stumbled upon an important "clue" by noticing two different notes written by the victim, one where he spelled his name John, and one where he spelled his name Jon. we eventually determined that the one signed Jon was a fake written by the murderer, and did ultimately end up charging and convicting the right guy. (noticing that note was possibly the only thing I actually directly contributed the whole time; most of the students were a lot older than me.)
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I really liked the song LoveFool from Romeo and Juliet way back when (feels like a lifetime ago, I wasn't even the same person). That's all I remember of the group, but still sucks to hear.
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well ok then 8)
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they would never be allowed in WoW because Blizzard worships balance

it's cool to hear that there IS something like that in FFXI, though, which makes me want to play it
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helIy posted...

backed up by actual facts and reason

that would be nice

but seriously, what is it that you're looking for in a game and how is it not present in Chrono Trigger?
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could be there isn't one since it'd be unfair in PvP

a couple I can sort of think of if I bend the meaning a bit is underwater breathing, which if you can fool someone into following you into deep water they will drown and you won't. I have won PvP battles this way.

or similarly slowfall or levitate, where if you can fool someone into jumping off a cliff after you, they will insta-die from the fall and you won't, if you cast slowfall. I don't think I've won a PvP battle this way.

(maybe these are what you mean by "extremely esoteric escapades"?)
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Lokarin posted...

Yes, I was all over Blades of Exile, plus they've been remade into Avernum 1~6 on Steam... with 1 and 2 getting an updated-update

yes, I played through 1 and a bit of 2 sometime in the last couple years. it's not *quite* the same experience, but it's pretty close, and it's a bit better in some ways. I miss the "oooh!", "ow!", "eee!" combat sounds.
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oh wait, I knew there must be another one, and Lok you should know this too: Exile! that was easily the best PC RPG I played before Fallout 1.

Honestly, that game shaped my future. I mean I'm named Sahuagin because I like lizardmen, and that comes from Sliths in Exile. I still make all my RPG characters based on the original 6 characters I made in Exile.
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Fallout 1

Lokarin posted...

Or Fallout 1, whichever came first

hmm... I guess Might and Magic 3 and I guess also 4 and 5 though I like them less. not that I played them back then though. I don't think I really played a PC RPG before Fallout 1, and it was all up from there.
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ClarkDuke posted...

All because of thumbs

damn, all this time we thought it was foreskins, but really it was thumbs all along!
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RCtheWSBC posted...

Constipation

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Factorio
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Zeus posted...

What's this one from?

Le Cochon Danseur (English: The Dancing Pig) is a silent, 4 minute long, black-and-white burlesque film released in 1907 by French company Path, apparently based on a Vaudeville act. In the film, a giant anthropomorphic pig, dressed in human fancy clothes, dances with a girl, who later embarrasses him by tearing his clothes off. The two start to dance together, then walk into the curtains behind them. A disturbing scene is then shown where you see the pig moving his tongue and eyes around and then baring his teeth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Cochon_Danseur
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BTB posted...

Yeah, pro strats are ignore everything in a dungeon when you first go through it.

BTB posted...

This gets brought up a lot. It's the one bug that everybody knows about (and will cite at any given opportunity as the main reason this game is so hard). What most people *don't* know is that it's nonexistent prior to level 10 and very minor prior to level 20. Battles with the other apprentices just boil down to killing them in a single hit 90% of the time, and a good player will be in Barluca *long* before the stat bug really starts to show its true colors.

honestly, you're really making me dislike this game. I like it in principle, like thematically. but all this crap just reeks of bad game design. if the game has been tweaked in such a way as to be *that* unplayable, then wtf, that's not a good game, that's the antithesis of a good game.
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mrduckbear posted...

Why bother to help old sick people with free healthcare or help the poor if they aren't contributing anything. It would be better to let them fend for themselves while doing something else to help the rest.

it's more like "don't help people when they can help themselves." reserve help for when it's truly critically needed and don't just dish it out willy-nilly, since that just encourages dependence and discourages people working to improve themselves. you shouldn't be looking for how other people can help you, you should be looking for how you can help yourself.
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these are all stretching the line of "good content" mostly because 10k is such a harsh criteria

DesertPhile an old ranch-hand/prospector living out in the new mexico desert who does atheist/skeptic videos (he *just* hit 10k)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYnwmslj2knI9iAiXM4UOgg

Mobiltec who if I recall is DesertPhile's brother
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTSMr3wgPuB4of-cZO6hxDw

AngryNotSoOldHippie is the same guy as Mobiltec? Or Mobiltec is a friend of theirs? I can't remember
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXTOzkJCWUDC8BOrPz9W0HA

QDragon guy with a severe disability who used to make atheist and science videos but now seems to make cooking videos...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Sm5mWFA-oVnrZOVVzpbPg

eequalsfb had some great atheist videos back in the day, but hasn't posted in forever
https://www.youtube.com/user/eequalsfb

John Dick the voice actor for Serious Sam. not sure he's really worth watching though. he makes bath bombs.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnJz2BSxIMaG3VOze6f2RPQ

Tim Black fairly entertaining talk show guy, can't remember his point of view if any
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS29pPRptYqNsDqfeCU507A
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Snuggletoof posted...

"Small" means a subscriber count below 10,000

10k? that's going to be very difficult if not impossible

here's one sort of I guess, Kabane the Christian, he posts interesting stuff about Orthodox Christianity
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPwiRev50NxkMWM_jlSMmRw

TecToss is just some strategy game let's player that I like
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQapM0kKX5zgDwbJqr6opow

PaulChartley, some brit who posts atheist and anti-creationism videos, I watched him like 10 years ago but he isn't all that great
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpNIabElxCcjSgQPmBlhUbA

Lavinia, a "mom" let's player
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzmzSPjaYhf36UorbLS-p9Q
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like the country, dislike the government, I guess
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the second one, which is factually incorrect, whereas the first is factually correct.
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there's a really bitter older lady at work who treats me pretty poorly. I had thought her my friend and someone I admired for a long time before I realized just how much she despises me and gossips about me. she doesn't miss any opportunity to point out how little she thinks of me. she also lies and does things like imply that things are my mistake when they aren't. she's really a very spiteful hateful bitter person that I wish I never knew. never before has my opinion of someone gone from such a high mark to such a low mark in so short a time.

so, anyway... something good? she's very organized and pretty disciplined and energetic in her work ethic, which is one thing I had always admired about her.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

And a toilet is a fucking shitting chair, it having injuries marks a base line for people hurting themselves with anything.

How about a seatbelt?

And a kid in Africa dies every time I snap my fingers, I don't see you mandating Africa stop murdering senselessly.

sigh...

- toilets aren't as trivial as you imply just because they're toilets
- comparing toilet *injuries* to car accident *fatalities* is absurd
- even if people will injure themselves with anything doesn't imply that we shouldn't make some particular thing safer if we can, especially with a high rate of fatalities
- I don't have to mandate against all dangerous activities in the world to discuss a single dangerous activity
- some other place is more dangerous does not imply that we shouldn't make *here* more safe if we can
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

more people are injured on the fucking toilet for fuck's sake

that's *injuries* on toilets versus fatalities with cars. and that doesn't imply that we shouldn't improve toilet safety if possible, either. for cars, that's 1 death every 15 minutes, which means about 4 people have already been killed since you posted the 100 per day statistic, and almost 150 people have been killed since this thread started. (just in the US; more like 35x that amount world-wide.)

also, note that I don't think I've said anything in the first place about making normal driving illegal, I don't know where you got that. I'm saying if *introducing* self-driving cars lowers fatalities, then it's worth it even if self-driving cars have problems. in other words, maybe they don't have to be perfect to still be used, if they're dangerous but nevertheless safer. because I was originally saying that I can't imagine how they'd be safe. the answer being, maybe they don't have to be as long as they're safe-er.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

I'd also like to point out that making social media illegal would save child abuse victims to the same sort of rate, perhaps you'd like to enforce that too?

it's not as if there aren't already things of that nature that are restricted, off the top of my head say raw milk and home brewed alcohol. if you're for or against that kind of thing I'm not really inclined to agree or disagree. it's similar to gun control I suppose. "let us do what we want and let the casualties be damned." if that's how you like it, fine.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

There are 222 million drivers in the US, you are suggesting robbing and restricting 69% of the population to save 0.0001% who died on the road.

yeah you're right that getting americans to care is a challenge all by itself
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Elijah Wood and Daniel Radcliffe

The roles they were born and made to play

are you joking? maybe they were born to play Frodo and Harry, but what makes them good for Gattaca? isn't one of them supposed to be genetically enhanced? except for maybe his hairline, Jude Law works really good for that part.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Sahuagin posted...

which means that it doesn't matter all that much how well they handle the worst situations, or even if *they crash regularly*, if there's like ~1000 deaths per day average instead, we'd take it.

If you took all of the US off the road you'd save a whole 100 lives a day. The places that can use them don't need them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

k I guess what I posted was the world stat not the US stat, but w/e, the number doesn't matter as long as it's high. 100 deaths per day is one every fifteen minutes. if they can make a sizable dent in that number it would be worth it.
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LinkPizza posted...

Except, would it have as much benefit if it's failing all the time? And possibly losing money because of "the more than plan for accidents and such?"

as long as the overall death-rate is significantly less than human driven cars, we'd accept it.

a quick google search says that "nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day".

whereas it seems the number of deaths in commercial airlines in 2017 was actually zero.

so, as long as self-driven cars are significantly less than ~3,300 deaths per day on average, which is pretty fucking horrible, it'd be worth it.

which means that it doesn't matter all that much how well they handle the worst situations, or even if *they crash regularly*, if there's like ~1000 deaths per day average instead, we'd take it.

which means they *won't* be perfect, and there *will* be horrible self-driven car accidents, but it will be acceptable.
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Smarkil posted...

It's not like they're not working on that very issue. Google has a fleet of cars in Michigan right now for that very reason. They're trying to test for the different sorts of environments that they could encounter.

k but... this is one of those things that's very easy to *imagine* working, like flying cars for example, but has a tendency to be *very hard* if not impossible to do in practice, or to perfect to a sufficient degree that it can be utilized everywhere.

but then again... maybe it will be like cars and airplanes. it *won't* be foolproof and in fact horrible stuff will happen all the time, but we'll all accept it because of the benefits.
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^ why does Marvel vs Capcom have that style of music anyway? that's one of the things I *don't* like about it...
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MannerSaurus posted...

ABS pulses brakes a thousand times faster than any human being can dream of, but you are right... that in certain conditions, these computer safeties aren't an end-all solution and can actually be dangerous.

I know from repeat experience that in snowy slippery conditions ABS feels like it catapults the car forward rather than helping to stop the car. it's almost funny when you do it in a controlled situation, but it sure makes me wish I could turn the damn thing off. If I recall, I got used to applying the brakes in a certain way that kept the ABS off but locked the wheels. At the speeds I was going, coming to a locked sliding stop was FAR superior than the ABS.

MannerSaurus posted...

ABS pulses brakes a thousand times faster than any human being can dream of

I think it's designed for wet conditions, and not snowy icy conditions. If you have the chance test it out on snow and ice. Try braking with ABS (so full foot on the brake letting it pulse), and then try threshold braking (so hold just above where the ABS kicks in). The ABS is *terrible* in comparison. The worst is at very slow speeds in very rough snow, where the ABS almost does nothing and you're basically just coasting to a stop. It feels like hitting the gas rather than the brakes. It's not just worse than manual braking, but it's even worse than locking the wheels.

Thinking about it, the reason it feels like hitting the gas is because when you hit the brakes you do get deceleration at first, right until the ABS kicks in. It's very noticeable that you *had* deceleration and then you lost it. In fact, I think mathematically, removal of deceleration *is* acceleration... so it kind of is like hitting the gas; just it's accelerating you from optimal braking back up to zero.
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MannerSaurus posted...

Stay in a lower gear and engine brake.

that does make sense. this situation though caught me off guard because at the time I hadn't experience conditions that were that slippery. I didn't know it was physically possible to be that slippery. I've only seen it that bad like twice in my life. the other time it happened, some pedestrians (with baby cart no less) strolled onto a crosswalk in the middle of traffic without looking, and me and another guy were *barely* able to stop without hitting them. I just barely stopped because I knew how slippery it was and I saw the stupid pedestrians early. the other guy (who had more room to stop but was one lane over so probably didn't see the pedestrians in time) only managed to stop by crashing into me.
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MannerSaurus posted...

Objectively, this shouldn't be too hard. In regular non-self-driving cars, your Traction Control already detects these things like slipping tire traction and automatically closes your throttle and reduces tire speed to try to save your life in rain/snow/mud.

traction control just reduces power when you spin the wheels. you have to spin the wheels first for it to detect it. (it's basically the reverse of anti-lock brakes.)

MannerSaurus posted...

You don't touch the brakes going downhill in low traction. You, ideally, should never touch the brakes while going down hill in the first place...

this wasn't like I *hit* the brakes and had this happen, I put them on extremely gently only to try to keep from gaining more speed.

the fundamental problem that I don't see a solution for is that you can't tell how slippery things are until you're slipping. there's a particular condition with slushy wet snow on a warm road that can make things *extremely* slippery, about as bad as sheer wet ice. when you're in that situation, you need to go like half-speed or less and do things like brake and steer with *insane* caution. but you can't tell you're in that situation until you've already slipped on it. I don't see how the computer can detect the road slipperiness *in advance* and go the appropriate speed and use the appropriate pressures.

also, you mention traction control, but keep in mind that things like anti-lock and traction-control, which are already a form of self-driving, are already *worse* than doing them manually. threshold braking is so much better than anti-lock, in fact anti-lock is almost dangerous in slippery enough conditions, because you end up with basically zero braking. pressing the gas lightly is also better than traction-control.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Sahuagin posted...
How does it choose a good speed? What about when you know a particular road is wet and snowy and particularly slippery? Does it know to brake early and gently? What about going face-first downhill with a big load in the back? What about an extremely steep road that's coated in a thin layer of solid ice?

It knows these things, yes, common environmental factors are surprisingly easy to sense and counter with all the equipment running well. Of course if a sensor goes down then it'd be more dangerous than a personally-driven vehicle.

I don't know... the reason I mention these is because I've been in these situations. There are times when I can barely make it through a situation, and I have a very hard time believing that a computer in my car could manage it.

What about when: all that's in front of you is solid white snow, even though you know under the snow are five highway lanes, and all you can do is guess where the lane is, go slow, and all try to carefully drive in makeshift single-file order even though no one can see the road.

The steep down-hill on skating-rink conditions with a heavy load in back turned out to be nearly impossible to survive. I was going like 40 kph, and just touching the brakes lightly to slow down was enough to send my back swinging around, causing me to spin across four lanes and into the ditch on the far side of the road (luckily it was like 3am and no one else was around). I got my car out and then almost immediately had the exact same thing happen when going only ~32kph, but I didn't completely wipe out that time.

Or the steep hill covered in solid ice. This was a death trap, and I could only imagine what would happen to someone who slipped on the sidewalk, because this was like three blocks of houses at like a 30 degree incline covered in a thick layer of solid wet ice (frozen rain). Not only that but the bottom of this street goes out onto the highway for some reason and there's no other way out but to climb the hill. I think I might have skipped this street on the ice day (or walked on lawns or something), but on the worst days I had to climb that hill spinning my tires going like 1 kph.

So yeah, I don't really see auto-cars being able to handle these situations that I can barely, or can't even, handle.
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opposite question: what is there to *like* about xbox?

I don't know the term for it, but isn't it the system most devoted to the stereotypical Call of Duty/EA Sports/Mountain Dew/redneck crowd? And then throw the whole "attempted surveillance camera in your living room" thing on top, and I don't see why any genuine gamer would ever want one.

Personally I only ever owned an XBox 360 to have access to XNA Community Games. I played and enjoyed a *few* games on the original XBox, but barely. (I do love the Forza series, (2 and 3 anyway).)

Actually the more I think about it the more it irritates me. It's like Internet Explorer. Microsoft attempting to grab hold of an industry without knowing WTF it's doing, pouring tons of effort and money into it resulting in nothing but a mess, and in the process effectively damaging the industry rather than really contributing to it. Microsoft is turning into such a shit company.

It's actually pretty bad considering that say 90% of the worlds computers are run by their O/S, and their company is slowly but surely being driven into the ground by incompetent management. Confirming that 90% number I'm not surprised to find the following headline: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/227693-windows-drops-below-90-market-share-for-the-first-time-in-years-windows-7-falls-below-50
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I want them to be great, but I don't see how they can realistically work. It would probably only be possible in California or something. How does the car "see" the road, for example?

What about winter driving conditions when a human can barely see the road, or when you can see so little of the road that we ignore the real lane markers and just use the ruts?

What about when there's construction or some kind of obstruction and you have to divert from normal traffic patterns? For example, there was an emergency repair on Sarcee this year; they paved over the median and had one side of the highway drive on half the opposite side.

How does it choose a good speed? What about when you know a particular road is wet and snowy and particularly slippery? Does it know to brake early and gently? What about going face-first downhill with a big load in the back? What about an extremely steep road that's coated in a thin layer of solid ice?

etc.etc.
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