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TopicHow do black millionaires have the ability to protest without their lives being
hockeybub89
09/26/17 7:37:41 PM
#25
That_Happened posted...
Black millionaires aren't protesting for themselves. They're protesting for the poor, voiceless people who live in the areas where they grew up.

Too much sense in this post.
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TopicUnicersity bans research into transexials who regret their decision.
hockeybub89
09/26/17 7:25:58 PM
#92
Zeeak4444 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Sayoria posted...
No bias there.

- She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid.
- Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18.
- Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching.

You guys are sad.

Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals?


You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject.

Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head?

Attack the facts? I am highlighting a post of facts that responded to a bullshit emotional appeal that pops up in every trans topic. A response that is always ignored. I wasn't responding to the OP, but a later exchange.


I get that and I agree with portions of what you said but you still decided on some poor wording considering what the topic is actually about.

With context it was a poor choice. Without context it makes you look really stupid TBH.

I really need to stop adding full paragraphs in edits....

I don't agree with suppression, but the only reason anyone here is up in arms is because they really want said research to prove their point. They will plug their ears about everything that disagrees with the view they want, but now cry about suppression and ignoring truth. If this research happens and does not conclude most trans people regret their decision and are just insane, then the "truth squad" will suddenly get very quiet.

That is my bone to pick. My choice of words may not have been the best in your opinion, but the type of people whining about suppression of the truth are only interested in facta that supports their viewpoint, so not necessarily facts at all. Suppression is wrong and only reinforces their ignorance, but so does anything that counters the truth they want. This is why we still see "SJWs are cutting off baby dicks and most trans people are just unhappy crazy people who regret their decision and will be even more likely to kill themselves if we reinforce their delusion!" Apparently we're to do absolutely nothing for trans people until research comes to the final conclusion that that was the right decision all along. In other words, we wouldm't need research at all and could have just told everyone they were right and continued treating trans people as we did in the past.
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TopicUnicersity bans research into transexials who regret their decision.
hockeybub89
09/26/17 7:00:16 PM
#85
Zeeak4444 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Sayoria posted...
No bias there.

- She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid.
- Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18.
- Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching.

You guys are sad.

Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals?


You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject.

Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head?

Attack the facts? I am highlighting a post of facts that responded to a bullshit emotional appeal that pops up in every trans topic. A response that is always ignored. I wasn't responding to the OP, but a later exchange.

I don't agree with suppression, but the only reason anyone here is up in arms is because they really want said research to prove their point. They will plug their ears about everything that disagrees with the view they want, but now cry about suppression and ignoring truth. If this research happens and does not conclude most trans people regret their decision and are just insane, then the "truth squad" will suddenly get very quiet.
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TopicUnicersity bans research into transexials who regret their decision.
hockeybub89
09/26/17 6:48:43 PM
#81
NurseRedHeart posted...
Sir Will posted...
NurseRedHeart posted...
You expect society to be ok with your choices.

Yes they expect basic human respect and to use their proper pronouns. And not to discriminate against them. Not asking a lot.

After that, well, they'll still call out bigotry and denounce hatred, but ultimately being left alone will suffice.


What's your opinion on smokers? Drug users? Convicted rapists?

It is pretty disingenuous to compare trans people and drug users to rapists.
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TopicUnicersity bans research into transexials who regret their decision.
hockeybub89
09/26/17 6:46:32 PM
#80
Sayoria posted...
No bias there.

- She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid.
- Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18.
- Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching.

You guys are sad.

Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals?
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TopicCompany creates "Snowflake Test" to weed out Millennials
hockeybub89
09/26/17 6:33:31 PM
#36
"These damn millennials need to learn to deal with different opinions. Now agree with my own or fuck off."

Top kek
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TopicIf Confederate flags are disrespectful, why not kneeling for the anthem?
hockeybub89
09/26/17 6:31:06 PM
#32
The Admiral posted...
Hurt feelings are only important if it's liberals that are being hurt. If a conservative is offended by disrespectful actions towards America, he can go fuck himself in his safe space.

So they're just like you, but for the other team.
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TopicBreaking: Saudi Arabia will now allow women to drive
hockeybub89
09/26/17 5:48:49 PM
#22
TopicSo how does kneeling help prevent racism and polic brutality?
hockeybub89
09/26/17 5:53:21 AM
#72
Sunday was about giving President Manbaby the finger, not police brutality.
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TopicWhite girl gets dunked on!
hockeybub89
09/25/17 10:07:25 PM
#18
Capn Circus posted...
Who invented basketball?

Sitting Bull
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TopicWhat Kaepernick kneeled for ORIGINALLY & what everyone is kneeling for NOW
hockeybub89
09/25/17 8:06:14 PM
#117
DifferentialEquation posted...
The left hates this country, so they'll support kneeling no matter how petty the reason.

If you don't like it, then you can GIT OUT! Goddamn snowflake.
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TopicSo it looks like the NFL ratings/viewership are not actually declining much.
hockeybub89
09/25/17 8:02:07 PM
#25
DarthAragorn posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
Why should ratings decline because Americans are expressing their first amendment rights?

Because plenty of people disagree with how they're doing it and/or hear enough of politics every other hour of the week and just want to watch a game where people hit the shit out of each other without dealing with it?

Then why did people watch the pregame shows with such fervor? You know you can go get a snack or change the channel during that whole minute of pregame ceremony. Or, better yet, we can stop fucking televising talentless nobodies singing the millionth rendition of a song so played out that it holds no meaning beyond some ambiguous "Respect Our Troops" nonsense. I am so sick and tired of "the troops" being some fucking emotional appeal ball to throw around for agendas.
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TopicWith crime getting more and more out of control...
hockeybub89
09/25/17 7:34:58 PM
#25
GregShmedley posted...
So are we going to ignore that violent crime is in fact rising for the second year in a row?

If a disease is far less prevalent than it was 40 years ago, I'm not going to start freaking out about how the world is about to be sicker than ever because there was a slight uptick over a whole 2 years. Especially when we're still near historical lows and increases are only happening in certain cities.
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Topicaccording to redhats, nazis should be allowed to preach death to minorties becau
hockeybub89
09/25/17 4:37:20 PM
#66
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
We can have the cake and eat it too. You act as if you can't support free speech and exercise your free speech to disagree with certain uses of it. I support people being fired for being racist. I don't support people being for kneeling for the anthem. I don't want the government to legislate either of those things.

Well too bad, because it does. And they tend to favor business' right to fire people in most cases.

Too bad what? I am saying I understand what free speech is. And people can disagree with uses of it while still supporting the concept. Someone can get fired for kneeling, or not kneeling, and other people can disagree with it. And if enough people have strong enough feelings, their free speech will result in consequences for that business owner exercising his free speech towards the employee's free speech. People like you and Admiral seem to think disagreeing is incompatible with being pro-free speech and that is a laughably incorrect view.
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TopicSerious question for leftists: can you define ''fascism''?
hockeybub89
09/25/17 4:23:41 PM
#157
I have the answer to this topic.

Fascism is a far-left ideology and Obama is one of them. Trump is a freedom loving everyman.
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Topicaccording to redhats, nazis should be allowed to preach death to minorties becau
hockeybub89
09/25/17 4:21:28 PM
#56
Mal_Fet posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
oh no, just that hey should be fired for protesting.

you know, like how you were complaining about when they forced out the CEO of Mozilla for donating to anti-gay organizations?

So which is it: is it ok to fire people for their politics or not?

Because if you don't believe in firing people for them, then you can't support ousting tj e Mozilla CEO.

personally I think a business has every right to fire whomever they want.

We can have the cake and eat it too. You act as if you can't support free speech and exercise your free speech to disagree with certain uses of it. I support people being fired for being racist. I don't support people being for kneeling for the anthem. I don't want the government to legislate either of those things.
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Topicaccording to redhats, nazis should be allowed to preach death to minorties becau
hockeybub89
09/25/17 4:17:18 PM
#52
The Admiral posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
The Admiral posted...
mario2000 posted...
:thinking:


Try harder, since literally no one is arguing against their right to protest.


oh no, just that hey should be fired for protesting.

you know, like how you were complaining about when they forced out the CEO of Mozilla for donating to anti-gay organizations?


Well, you supported that, so you support this?

Do you support both? If not, does that make you an anti-free speech hypocrite? He asked you first.
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Topicaccording to redhats, nazis should be allowed to preach death to minorties becau
hockeybub89
09/25/17 4:15:54 PM
#50
mortimerjames posted...
mel fat brought up being beaten to death, i wanted a story of a white guy getting beaten to death

That one evil Antifa guy nearly burned a ton of terrified, peaceful statue protesters alive with a flamethrower.
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Topicaccording to redhats, nazis should be allowed to preach death to minorties becau
hockeybub89
09/25/17 4:13:39 PM
#47
The Admiral posted...
That_Happened posted...
The Admiral posted...
Try harder, since literally no one is arguing against their right to protest.

Literally people are telling them they should stfu and play football, and that the nfl shouldn't allow them to protest, even silently.


Which is their free speech right. The first amendment protects you from government action silencing you, not from people criticizing you.

The players have the right to protest, and people have the right to criticize them for it.

And people can find it bizarre that kneeling for an overplayed song attracts vitriol from people that can't even criticize white supremacists without some sort of disclaimer about other people doing bad things.
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Topicgoogle "american inventors"
hockeybub89
09/25/17 4:10:07 PM
#26
TopicJim Sterling takes on the AAA indie and the obsolescence of publishers
hockeybub89
09/25/17 1:25:12 PM
#5
TopicCrazy opinions you've heard over the NFL kneeling?
hockeybub89
09/25/17 12:12:17 PM
#15
--kresnik-- posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
The craziest thing I've heard is that it's okay.

Nazi crap like this keeps being said.

"Wahhh! Anybody who disagrees with anti-patriotism is a Nazi!!!1!"


Yeah, shut the fuck up.

Fine, you're just a fascist, but also a troll, so who even cares what you think?
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TopicCrazy opinions you've heard over the NFL kneeling?
hockeybub89
09/25/17 12:02:57 PM
#5
TopicIn 2017, keep politics off the field = unarmed black men getting killed.
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:54:56 AM
#5
>Keep politics off the field
>Plays government propaganda at every sporting event
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TopicDo you stand for the anthem with your hand on your heart at home?
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:53:13 AM
#1
Topic title?


Well?
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TopicPeople are pissed NFL players are taking a knee or staying in the locker room
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:49:22 AM
#6
Like the vast majority of people you are bitching about, they probably aren't opportunistic jackasses like the rioters who co-opt protests.
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TopicTheory as to why Trump hates athletes
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:32:29 AM
#4
Your methods are questionable, but I too think Trump has a small penis.
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TopicIt is funny how even benign protest by black people cause all this rage.
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:24:48 AM
#62
tremain07 posted...
Neither does protesting, people are aware and people do not give a single shit. Protesting needs to be outlawed

We should ban all free speech by this logic. Society as a whole doesn't give a fuck about 99.9% of what anyone says.
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TopicRead any argument about burning flags or kneeling, but replace "burning
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:18:38 AM
#26
Bullet_Wing posted...
darkjedilink posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The same people complaining about 'muh free speech!' think you should be allowed to punch random people in the street without provocation if you could possibly claim they maybe kinda had a white supremacist haircut a little bit, from a certain angle.

Remind me again how protesting racial inequality and injustice is just the same as advocating for genocide.

So, anyone who maybe kinda has a white supremacist haircut a little bit, from a certain angle, advocates genocide?

Since when are people getting punched over haircuts? That one guy who claimed he got stabbed for his "Nazi haircut" ended up recanting and admitting that he cut himself and just wanted to blame someone else. The implications there are that he himself thinks his haircut is a Nazi one.

And the other guy that actually got punched literally espouses Nazi beliefs. The whole punching debacle on here started with talk about legit neo-Nazis. You shouldn't punch people, but jokers need to stop with the "the left calls everyone Nazis" when every discussion about Nazis here literally starts with the actions of people who agree with Nazi ideology.
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TopicRead any argument about burning flags or kneeling, but replace "burning
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:14:17 AM
#24
hockeybub89 posted...
The Admiral posted...
They also have free speech rights to say the n-word and use other racial slurs. Would you be defending the players from criticism for "exercising their free speech rights" in those cases too?

I can say I would not defend all those people. People also have free speech to react to free speech. You think it is hypocritical for someone to support being fired for saying one thing, but not another, but that is only the case if you think some speech should be illegal. You do not have to personally agree with all speech and never judge anyone to be a free speech proponent. That is a dumb gotcha argument from people like you.

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TopicRead any argument about burning flags or kneeling, but replace "burning
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:13:51 AM
#23
The Admiral posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
The Admiral posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
The Admiral posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The same people complaining about 'muh free speech!' think you should be allowed to punch random people in the street without provocation if you could possibly claim they maybe kinda had a white supremacist haircut a little bit, from a certain angle.

Remind me again how protesting racial inequality and injustice is just the same as advocating for genocide.


He was reminding you that both the alt-right protesters and the NFL players kneeling were expressing their free speech rights. If this right is that basis you're using to attack people critical of the NFL players, you're a hypocrite for not supporting the rights of the alt-right groups.

So what does that make him for supporting the free speech rights of neo-nazis but not these athletes?


I don't recall him saying he doesn't support the rights of these players to protest. But just like with the alt right loons, freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence. So they're entitled to protest, and people are entitled to criticize them for their protest.

Imagine comparing kneeling at a ball game to yelling Blood and Soil at a Nazi rally.


Imagine not being able to follow this conversation properly.

A conversation that started with a comparison to Nazis being punched. Conservatives on CE freak out any time a Republican is even remotely compared to some evil world leader, but equating kneeling for the anthem and advocating for genocide is cool because "He's just pointing out free speech hypocrisy (It isn't)". Fuck outta here with that shit.
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TopicWould you sit during the national anthem if you were an athlete?
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:05:22 AM
#60
TopicRead any argument about burning flags or kneeling, but replace "burning
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:03:44 AM
#20
The Admiral posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
The Admiral posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The same people complaining about 'muh free speech!' think you should be allowed to punch random people in the street without provocation if you could possibly claim they maybe kinda had a white supremacist haircut a little bit, from a certain angle.

Remind me again how protesting racial inequality and injustice is just the same as advocating for genocide.


He was reminding you that both the alt-right protesters and the NFL players kneeling were expressing their free speech rights. If this right is that basis you're using to attack people critical of the NFL players, you're a hypocrite for not supporting the rights of the alt-right groups.

So what does that make him for supporting the free speech rights of neo-nazis but not these athletes?


I don't recall him saying he doesn't support the rights of these players to protest. But just like with the alt right loons, freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence. So they're entitled to protest, and people are entitled to criticize them for their protest.

Imagine comparing kneeling at a ball game to yelling Blood and Soil at a Nazi rally.
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TopicRead any argument about burning flags or kneeling, but replace "burning
hockeybub89
09/25/17 11:02:01 AM
#18
The Admiral posted...
They also have free speech rights to say the n-word and use other racial slurs. Would you be defending the players from criticism for "exercising their free speech rights" in those cases too?

I can say I would not defend all those people. People also have free speech to react to free speech. You think it is hypocritical for someone to support being fired for saying one thing, but not another, but that is only the case if you think some speech should be illegal. You do not have to personally agree with all speech and never judge anyone to be a free speech proponent. That is a dumb gotcha argument from people like you.
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TopicIt is funny how even benign protest by black people cause all this rage.
hockeybub89
09/25/17 10:51:25 AM
#44
The Admiral posted...
BootyGif posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Nothing makes an old, white republican more upset than the idea of a black person being defiant.


I'm sure this makes you guys giddy to keep hearing in your echo chamber, but none of these same "old racist white men" gave a shit when the NBA players wore hoodies to bring attention the Trayvon shooting. It's almost like the action of disrespecting the country itself is what bothers people here, and you guys really need to reach defending your racism narrative.

No one is disrespecting the country by ignoring the 100,000th rendition of a song at a football game. Do you think it is disrespectful that people at home aren't standing for the anthem when it plays on TV? Or is disrespect cool if you have a couch and cheeseballs and are home in your underwear?
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TopicIt is funny how even benign protest by black people cause all this rage.
hockeybub89
09/25/17 10:48:09 AM
#34
Imagine not standing for the anthem even being considered a protest of anything.

Oh wait, that is our sad reality.
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TopicSerious question for leftists: can you define ''fascism''?
hockeybub89
09/24/17 8:58:42 PM
#71
scar the 1 posted...
In fact, there's another even more damning quote on the wiki page:

Fascism [is] the precise negation of that doctrine which formed the basis of the so-called Scientific or Marxian Socialism. (p. 30)

So let's just drop the whole "fascism is Marxist" schtick, ok?

Mal will just fall back on his Sunni/Shiite comparison he loves so much
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TopicSerious question for leftists: can you define ''fascism''?
hockeybub89
09/24/17 8:43:34 PM
#56
Trump sucking combined with bitching about how bad the left is. Must be a Mal topic.
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TopicProfessional athletes need to check their privilege.
hockeybub89
09/24/17 3:39:34 PM
#13
No one asks for TC's opinion and he still gives it. Why does being an entertainer for a living or making a certain amount of money mean they should shut up and keep to themselves? That didn't stop Trump from becoming President and complaining about football players quicker and with more passion than he does killer white supremacists.
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TopicDear NFL
hockeybub89
09/24/17 1:57:50 PM
#16
Solid Snake07 posted...
You shouldn't care about their opinion, yet you do

Yeah. He could try just not giving a damn about the anthem. Then, you can't get triggered by it.
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TopicMy thoughts about the "kneeling" situation the NFL is in
hockeybub89
09/24/17 1:54:39 PM
#75
Returning_CEmen posted...
I agree with TC that I don't want to see politics shoehorned I to everything.

Today is a direct result of a politician shoehorning himself into sports.
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TopicDear NFL
hockeybub89
09/24/17 1:52:51 PM
#3
Wait. So are entertainers supposed to shut up and be rich people playing games or should they be role models?
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TopicTrump is playing all you morons like fiddles
hockeybub89
09/24/17 1:46:16 PM
#10
Is pointing out that the President is a troll looking for attention supposed to make anyone feel better? We have a serious problem when people's advice is to treat the leader of the country most of the people here live in like an annoying shitposter.
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TopicThe left needs to side against religion
hockeybub89
09/24/17 1:38:59 PM
#14
TopicTrump to NFL owners: Fire players who dont stand for the national anthem
hockeybub89
09/24/17 1:38:10 PM
#214
Parappa09 posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
This seems to me like nothing more than a successful diversion from the news about Mueller's investigation and the election hacking.

i'd say it's a distraction from either mccain not voting for obamacare repeal or strange not performing as well in the runoff

Trump needed to pander to his base after pissing them off by working with the Democrats and walking back a few promises.
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TopicTrump to NFL owners: Fire players who dont stand for the national anthem
hockeybub89
09/24/17 1:36:28 PM
#213
Lordsai posted...
If you don't love America you need to leave anyway.

Then why are all the people crying over the anthem still here?
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TopicWhy is kneeling considered being disrespectful
hockeybub89
09/24/17 1:34:02 PM
#13
Because um...... uh......... hmmmmmmmm............................. MURICA
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TopicMy thoughts about the "kneeling" situation the NFL is in
hockeybub89
09/24/17 1:19:36 PM
#69
John_Galt posted...
Lol trump is amazing

Does anyone even know what this "protest" is about anymore?

Cops? Violence? Inequality? Racism? Trump?

Lol flip a coin

Just another "movement" that's now lost any sort of consistent message

I support it because it makes people mad. I think everyone should ignore the anthem until we become desensitized to it and stop giving a fuck about such a meaningless bullshit ceremony. That is the message I want to see spread.
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