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TopicHow does Christianity explain the fact that they weren't the first religion?
hockeybub89
01/22/18 9:13:06 PM
#85
Asherlee10 posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Logically follows means its necessarily so, which is not the case here. I can totally imagine a God that made everything thing else as merely decorative creations to serve his most loved and primary creation. God didnt create cow because he likes them, but because they would serve humans, I doubt God gives a hoot about cows


That brings me back to a previous statement I made, that is a terrible god if that is the case.

Somehow God is responsible for everything and knows everything, but only the good parts are actually his doing.
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TopicHow does Christianity explain the fact that they weren't the first religion?
hockeybub89
01/22/18 9:11:23 PM
#84
However they want to. Religions are prone to relying on faith in the face of truth. Every religion thinks they are the right one and not a single one of them has ever had even an inkling of concrete proof. Religious people treat their Gods as outside the petty concepts we apply to literally anything else in the universe.

I really wish I understood the point of it. I left faith because I could no longer rationally justify it.
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TopicTrump imposes 30% tariffs on solar panels.
hockeybub89
01/22/18 9:02:41 PM
#6
TopicAll disease is cured but every adult living in the 1st world has to pay $1000
hockeybub89
01/22/18 12:50:31 AM
#3
These type of theft by big government is unacceptable.
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Topicis Christianity the reason why the right is so anti-intellectual?
hockeybub89
01/22/18 12:41:47 AM
#41
DevsBro posted...
The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways, but the folly of fools is deception.

Proverbs 14:8

Why Christianity gotta trash religion like that?
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Topic"There's no proof of transgenderism or man-made climate change"
hockeybub89
01/21/18 10:34:17 PM
#1
"Science! Facts! Proof!"

"Now let me tell you about how God is real"
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Topicis Christianity the reason why the right is so anti-intellectual?
hockeybub89
01/21/18 10:30:40 PM
#32
Romulox28 posted...
ilovu posted...
Romulox28 posted...
There are lots of noted Christian intellectuals

exceptions to the rule

Nah you just dont read a lot of theology

Good for him
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Topicis Christianity the reason why the right is so anti-intellectual?
hockeybub89
01/21/18 10:22:26 PM
#27
TopicSo, is James Franco....fine?
hockeybub89
01/21/18 10:20:51 PM
#8
He can't be fine because I heard thousands of men have their lives destroyed every day by mere accusations of sexual misconduct and they will never recover regardless of the truth or seriousness of the initial claim.
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TopicWould liberals like Trump more if he created more safe space puppy rooms?
hockeybub89
01/21/18 5:17:00 PM
#7
Who doesn't want more puppies?

More proof Trump supporters are the worst.
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TopicLara Croft is a proud member of the "Itty Bitty Titty Committee
hockeybub89
01/21/18 5:06:34 PM
#51
Gamer99z posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Lara hasn't had big boobs in like a decade or more.

What? She's at least a solid D cup in the current rebooted series.

No
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TopicCalifornia will prosecute employers who aid ICE
hockeybub89
01/21/18 5:01:21 PM
#105
voldothegr8 posted...
I4NRulez posted...
good lol

Its fucked up that they hire immigrants then treat em like shit then deport them.

Those poor law breaking illegal immigrants

Uh... they exist because people are willing to exploit them. Illegal immigrants couldn't "steal" jobs if companies didn't take advantage of them and their status. This is like seeing people deal drugs and blaming the problem on the users. It's technically sort of true, but laughably naive and misguided.
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TopicLara Croft is a proud member of the "Itty Bitty Titty Committee
hockeybub89
01/21/18 4:59:01 PM
#34
Xelltrix posted...
If Lara Croft doesn't have cartoonishly massive boobs, is she even Lara Croft?


She hasn't had cartoonishly massive boobs in a very long time. People really need to start researching their outrage.
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TopicLara Croft is a proud member of the "Itty Bitty Titty Committee
hockeybub89
01/21/18 4:56:53 PM
#31
TheGrindery posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
She literally looks comparable to the most recent Lara. What a shit thing to care about

It's not THAT they're smaller. It's the very probable reasons WHY that's annoying.

If after OoT was out for a bit, we found out that Link would be female in Majora's Mask, then I would be totally fine and think "Well, didn't see that coming but hey it could be cool, who knows?" but with all the arguing and bullshit in society today and people flat out demanding that someone change their own intellectual property, it's aggravating. Imagine someone telling you what you need/have to do with what YOU came up with.

Lara was revamped before the "society today" you are whining about was whatever you think it is. Maybe she was just changed by choice and everything can't be blamed on SJWs threatening to burn everything to the ground if they aren't appeased. I feel like you're seeing a general trend and blaming it on crazies who support the trend somehow running society.
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TopicCalifornia will prosecute employers who aid ICE
hockeybub89
01/21/18 4:35:40 PM
#98
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
@hockeybub89 posted...
God I wish the federal government actually focused on fixing big problems that would help people.


Pretty sure if they focused more on keeping illegals out there would be at least one woman still alive

I feel like you could make that argument for basically anything. Nice virtue signaling. Still, in the grand scheme, illegal immigration doesn't seem like it needs to be a priority. Not saying we should throw out all laws on it and crack open the borders for anyone and everyone, but there seem to be bigger fish to fry with more focus.

But that would require not blaming our problems on a bunch of poor foreigners. Even on the illegal immigration issue itself, the blame is misplaced.

Illegal immigration makes up for almost 10 percent of America's national murder rate...

And? What are we doing about the other 90%? God damn you liberals and your virtue signaling.

Again, thinking is hard, but blaming all of our ills on rotten foreigners stealing our jobs and killing our people is easy. No wonder a lot of people do the latter.
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TopicCalifornia will prosecute employers who aid ICE
hockeybub89
01/21/18 4:20:19 PM
#94
KingCrabCake posted...
@hockeybub89 posted...
God I wish the federal government actually focused on fixing big problems that would help people.


Pretty sure if they focused more on keeping illegals out there would be at least one woman still alive

I feel like you could make that argument for basically anything. Nice virtue signaling. Still, in the grand scheme, illegal immigration doesn't seem like it needs to be a priority. Not saying we should throw out all laws on it and crack open the borders for anyone and everyone, but there seem to be bigger fish to fry with more focus.

But that would require not blaming our problems on a bunch of poor foreigners. Even on the illegal immigration issue itself, the blame is misplaced.
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TopicSen. Duckworth: Shut the fuck up, Cadet Bone Spurs.
hockeybub89
01/21/18 4:07:53 PM
#21
TopicLara Croft is a proud member of the "Itty Bitty Titty Committee
hockeybub89
01/21/18 2:50:58 PM
#9
Lara hasn't had big boobs in like a decade or more.

Still, ugh video game movie. There are some seriously legit actors in it and it will almost definitely suck.
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Topicso the democrats vote determined the shutdown. but why did they vote that way
hockeybub89
01/21/18 2:43:44 PM
#72
Howl posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Howl posted...
I literally stated that I don't sympathize. If I found myself in legal problems for breaking a law I broke, no matter if I thought the law was morally unjustifiable, I wouldn't expect sympathy. I would accept the consequences of breaking that law.

So you have no sympathy for drug addicts that get prison instead of treatment? You can't simultaneously hate a law and want it changed AND condemn people who break it. Those kind of betray each other.


No they don't. The law is the legal contract by which every person who lives in society agrees upon. It is a higher authority than my personal opinion.

But how will it ever change if you just defend it for being the law? You're just helping solidify the way things are. I'm not saying go run out and commit crimes yourself 24/7, but when you condemn civil disobedience and throw all your support behind the law even when you wish the law would change, then your opinions seem kind of useless. You have to at least have some sympathy/support for the lawbreakers, even if you ultimately admit they are still currently breaking the law and are being prosecuted legally.
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TopicCalifornia will prosecute employers who aid ICE
hockeybub89
01/21/18 2:32:01 PM
#70
God I wish the federal government actually focused on fixing big problems that would help people.
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Topicso the democrats vote determined the shutdown. but why did they vote that way
hockeybub89
01/21/18 2:30:12 PM
#70
Howl posted...
I literally stated that I don't sympathize. If I found myself in legal problems for breaking a law I broke, no matter if I thought the law was morally unjustifiable, I wouldn't expect sympathy. I would accept the consequences of breaking that law.

So you have no sympathy for drug addicts that get prison instead of treatment? You can't simultaneously hate a law and want it changed AND condemn people who break it. Those kind of betray each other.
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TopicMargaret Thatcher on Income Inequality and Socialism
hockeybub89
01/21/18 2:25:19 PM
#98
FLUFFYGERM posted...
what is it with leftists trying to assassinate characters that are remotely conservative?

What is it with conservatives and exaggeration? Thatcher's famously unpopular. Save the "Woe is me. Can't even support capitalism without leftist society trying to destroy your life" bullshit.
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TopicTransgender Activist Says Men Have No Right To Refuse Sex
hockeybub89
01/21/18 2:22:31 PM
#27
TopicI hate Trump with a passion but the people
hockeybub89
01/21/18 2:21:53 PM
#21
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Out protesting him are the most awful people I've ever seen and kind of make me want to support him.

Then you have no convictions
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TopicMargaret Thatcher on Income Inequality and Socialism
hockeybub89
01/21/18 2:16:17 PM
#95
UncleBourbon33 posted...
You just know how great Thatcher was, looking at how disgusting her haters acted when she died.

So does this mean Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were great men?
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TopicTrump ad: Dems 'complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants'
hockeybub89
01/20/18 9:09:54 PM
#49
prince_leo posted...
does this count as virtue signalling

Absolutely
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TopicWhy did the democrats shut down the government?
hockeybub89
01/20/18 9:08:20 PM
#8
TopicMargaret Thatcher on Income Inequality and Socialism
hockeybub89
01/20/18 6:03:50 PM
#51
TopicTrump HATES women...sexist fucking pig
hockeybub89
01/20/18 2:07:15 PM
#3
What kind of SJW just puts women in power positions regardless of qualification or competence? Motherfucking liberal ass Trump.
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TopicDo you regret how long it took you to figure shit out?
hockeybub89
01/20/18 2:04:42 PM
#4
TopicCivilian deaths tripled in campaign against ISIS in 2017
hockeybub89
01/20/18 2:03:18 PM
#94
Antifar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
But Obama is a war criminal for bombing a hospital.

I mean, this ain't wrong.

You are correct.
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TopicHas there been a good President in the last 50 years?
hockeybub89
01/20/18 1:38:23 PM
#1
TopicTrump has to be Top 3 worst president ever at this point, right?
hockeybub89
01/20/18 12:58:39 PM
#35
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Worst and it isn't even close.

Ehhhh, as shit as Trump is he has a ways to go before he reaches Buchanan or Harding levels.

I guess you're right. Depends on what someone means by worst. He hasn't caused the most harm as of yet at least, but he is far and away the stupidest and most incompetent.
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TopicDad: "Go to your room now!"
hockeybub89
01/20/18 12:48:41 PM
#14
TopicTrump on 2013 gov't shutdown: who gets fired, it always has to be at the top
hockeybub89
01/20/18 12:46:57 PM
#8
TopicTrump has to be Top 3 worst president ever at this point, right?
hockeybub89
01/20/18 12:39:27 PM
#10
TopicThe Republicans are reborn today. The Wall is just beginning.
hockeybub89
01/20/18 12:35:00 PM
#8
creativerealms posted...
The wall is a metaphor.

The metaphor is only beginning
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TopicAre emergency services still available?
hockeybub89
01/20/18 12:33:37 PM
#17
Don't know who the guy was, but I stumbled across some conservative talking head on the radio who was mad that the government wasn't shut down completely during this shut down and proceeded to blame every thing on the Democrats. Like how Congress is not in session, but the Women's March and Mueller's investigation are still happening. I guess that the Republican administration must secretly have a liberal agenda. Funny how these pundits somehow find a way to blame the government while removing the controlling party of it from responsibility.
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TopicCivilian deaths tripled in campaign against ISIS in 2017
hockeybub89
01/20/18 12:24:33 PM
#81
But Obama is a war criminal for bombing a hospital.

Apparently he just didn't bomb enough civilians. God bless Donald Trump, the brilliant military strategist who singlehandedly brought peace to the Middle East.

Holy shit, Trump supporters have no low.

I guess the next wave of terrorists just need to form in America and hide in our cities. Apparently we will just bomb our own citizens with impunity because necessary evils and what not.
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TopicWhy does Trump blame everything on the Democrats?
hockeybub89
01/20/18 12:15:24 PM
#13
Kazi1212 posted...
Who do Democrats blame everything on Trump?

b-b-b-b-but

At least the Democrats can make the excuse that they are the minority in power.

The Republicans have the Presidency and control of every branch. They have no one to blame but themselves if they are too impotent to get things done.
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TopicFound a thing for CE to play with
hockeybub89
01/20/18 3:54:09 AM
#373
TopicDo I, Mal_Fet, support Trump?
hockeybub89
01/19/18 10:45:34 PM
#134
I don't want to hear about how somehow I'm saying America is like Saudi Arabia when even an inkling of socialist-like policies makes you and Proud start shrieking about turning into Venezuela or inevitably Soviet Russia (or that far-left Third Reich).

Mal_Fet posted...

And your new retort seems to be "He's only been doing a good job for a year, but my crystal ball says that's gonna change down the line!" Well, I guess time will tell on that, but how about we judge people based on their performance rather than what our crystal balls that peer into the future say?

If the accomplishments take time to even determine if they are accomplishments, then what exactly can we judge him on? Just the fact that things did indeed occur during 2017? Has any administration literally had a year where absolutely nothing happened?

I'll admit it. Trump definitely was alive in 2017. Things occasionally occurred. Someone get this man on money.
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TopicDo I, Mal_Fet, support Trump?
hockeybub89
01/19/18 10:40:36 PM
#133
Mal_Fet posted...

I would say the amount of deregulation as well as tax reform of the level not seen since Reagan is quite good for the first year, right? I mean Obama's one and only legislative victory was Obamacare and that only got above 50% approval as a knee-jerk reaction after the media made much to do about it being scrapped.

Quite good at what? Happening? His administration has had an embarrassingly high amount of turnover, repeatedly failed to pass things, and his big "victory" was a half-finished scribble pad that was rammed through at the last minute and is still way too new to be considered anything.

But hey, at least he is suppressing climate science and renewing surveillance programs. Small government indeed.

We're not going to do this thing where thr shitty Obamacare's 50% approval, which is still sad to be considered good, and Trump's low approval of everything are just media manipulation and the people not knowing what's good for them. It's 2018. We can stop the fake news deep state bullshit.
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TopicDo I, Mal_Fet, support Trump?
hockeybub89
01/19/18 10:23:15 PM
#131
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...

We all know that's all that matters. It's why everyone wants to live in UAE and Saudi Arabia.

The world isn't motherfucking Bioshock, which was a deconstruction of certain systems by the way and not a love letter. Build your own dystopia and stop fucking over the common man with isolationist, objectivist horseshit.

Lmfao, which universe are you living in where America is devolving into a Saudi-like country? Has your Trump-derangement-syndrome gotten so bad that you also aren't aware that violent crime, unemployment, hate crimes, etc are going down?

But no please inform us all about the ways Trump is turning the country into a dictatorial theocracy. I cannot wait for your explanation.

I can't inform you of anything because you are an absolute pro at selective reading/hearing. I don't think he will make us a dictatorial theocracy.

Violent crime has been going down for near two decades. I don't have the exact unemployment and hate crime numbers in front of me, but we have still seen some pretty prolific hate (from many sides). Regardless, Trump has been President for a year. A year is hardly a trend and can hardly be pinned down on a specific cause. And you know that since you've graduated middle school, but hey, gotta praise yer boy. You see everything good or bad with one team or the other in 5 minute intervals. There is no past or future.
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TopicDo I, Mal_Fet, support Trump?
hockeybub89
01/19/18 10:11:07 PM
#128
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
That was me paraphrasing you. Trump is a unbelievably awful world leader.

Do you deny his accomplishments though? Or at least just the ones I've outlined?

Yes, because historically impotent, incompetent, unpopular first years of Presidency are void of many accomplishments. And the things people do praise are not the types of things you can call successes over a few months.

Bipartisanship is killing this country. Donald Trump, as a reality star businessman with the temperament of a 8 year old who can't speak in complete sentences is clearly not fit to run this country regardless of party. Hillary was the most hated politcian in America and fake and corrupt as hell. Yet, these two battled for to be motherfucking President. And millions of people voted for them! Supported and defended them! Still do! Maybe there really is something in the air or water.

All you can do is call me an Obama supporter because you can only comprehend someone attacking your team as a diehard fan of the other team. Not the first time I've heard that. It's why apparently I'm a Democrat Republican Nazi SJW Atheist Christian Muslim cis trans neckbeard cuck. Because thinking is too hard for people.
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TopicDo I, Mal_Fet, support Trump?
hockeybub89
01/19/18 9:52:45 PM
#125
FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub can you objectively evaluate your own life and really say that you are in a position to to figure out what ails others

At least I don't support that thing as President. I agree when people say Trump won because he spoke to people unlike other politicians. It's a damn shame that people can have such a bad time in America that voting Trump looked good. Our country really is failing its citizens to cause such desperation. I can understand what would drive people to do illogical things, but that's a bit farther than I would be willing to debase myself.


lmao keep crying, the tears are delicious

i'll just go enjoy my all-time high portfolio gains and tax decreases, tyvm

We all know that's all that matters. It's why everyone wants to live in UAE and Saudi Arabia.

The world isn't motherfucking Bioshock, which was a deconstruction of certain systems by the way and not a love letter. Build your own dystopia and stop fucking over the common man with isolationist, objectivist horseshit.

Though maybe you are the average American with your short-sightedness. A buffoon has made you richer for 10 minutes, so who fucking cares about the future or that his monumental incompetence and stupidity is bound to fuck up anything he touches. You're just a naive child. Like a less rich Donald Trump.

You are everything you hate about liberals. Just a blind shill for your team. As I said earlier, I can't debase myself like that.
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