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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:32:15 PM
#205
Paratroopa1 posted...
Dude brainbomb is a fucking meme on MU we all make fun of that dude all the time

He was terrible in his champs game


Yeah in the game I was in I can safely say I was the only one who even so much as poked at him. No one found him "funny".

And the fact that he was even allowed in a championship game does wonders for my desire to never be in one or observe one.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:30:47 PM
#202
IfGodCouldDie posted...
That's.... hmmm.


No one in the game could engage him, he'd just rotate calling random people scum for no reason and ignoring anything anyone said to him about it. I might have hurt his feelings by getting mad at him and telling him to start doing something useful/stop ignoring almost every post directed at him?

Like if that's enough to get me modkilled without even giving me a reason after I already asked to replace out, then their standards are so low they're insane, especially since Fable was being more of a dick to the game than I was most of the time.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:27:09 PM
#199
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Dels posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".

If I remember correctly Dels got called scum last year just for posting lots.


Well.

I was scum.

So.

Oh. For some reason I thought i remember you were town and getting called scum for high levels of activity.


I didn't remember or care his alignment, I just know it's a laughable reason to call someone scum
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:26:34 PM
#198
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Oh and that dumbass's name, ironically, was "Brainbomb".

Easily ranks as one of the worst people I have ever been in a Mafia game with. He combines extreme activity with sheer incompetency and ignores almost any response directed at him. He basically plays the game off in his own little world with little to no grasp on reality. Like 1/3 of the posts day 1 were from him and there wasn't anything of value in a single one of them.

But apparently that's so normal for him that most people were considering it totally null, which might've been even worse!

So hes basically like Corrik on steroids with a brain injury.


Yep. He made that game unbearable, but apparently I was the one who got modkilled after directly asking to replace out when that place has no shortage of replacements.

"lol"
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:23:16 PM
#193
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
ScareChan posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
As a role, either for madness or impossible, how would a role that reroles the entire game and starts it over, be received


Ok that answers my question. You have learned nothing


He's never learned anything and he's probably never going to.

But in fairness, he's no worse than the majority of their playerbase.

MU's player base or forum mafia boards player base?


I was referring to MU. That's how little respect I have for their playerbase.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:22:41 PM
#192
Oh and that dumbass's name, ironically, was "Brainbomb".

Easily ranks as one of the worst people I have ever been in a Mafia game with. He combines extreme activity with sheer incompetency and ignores almost any response directed at him. He basically plays the game off in his own little world with little to no grasp on reality. Like 1/3 of the posts day 1 were from him and there wasn't anything of value in a single one of them.

But apparently that's so normal for him that most people were considering it totally null, which might've been even worse!
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:18:41 PM
#188
ScareChan posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
As a role, either for madness or impossible, how would a role that reroles the entire game and starts it over, be received


Ok that answers my question. You have learned nothing


He's never learned anything and he's probably never going to.

But in fairness, he's no worse than the majority of their playerbase.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:18:20 PM
#187
That sounds like a stupid role that would cause people to quit.

..But you're not the first person to come up with the idea.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:13:00 PM
#184
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".

If I remember correctly Dels got called scum last year just for posting lots.


Yep. Trying too hard is scummy, but making a couple hundred posts of random nonsensical gibberish that pretends to be scumhunting apparently wasn't a problem!

Inactivity is a much bigger problem there, partly because some people are idiots who play in several games at once. The mandatory 10-post limit does nothing, because these people will pop in just to make ~10 useless posts and leave.

About the only reason I'd ever consider playing another game there is if it were made by us or had what I felt was a heavy enough influence from us to stop them from weighing the game down.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 7:03:58 PM
#182
Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned. I was MKed without warning day 1 as doctor after asking to replace (I was one of only two town power in the entire game) and was never given a reason why. Day 1 was mostly dealing with a player that's Corrik if Corrik were completely incompetent at everything relating to Mafia or even intelligence who basically controlled the entire first day and made the game unreadable. It was impossible to play because of that guy, and I wanted out... So I got MKed for it? Alrighty then. In a turbo a town player who was calling me "obvious town" nightkilled me solely to retaliate for voting for him. I never saw anything I'd consider high level play, but I saw plenty of examples like those. I can pretty easily name more.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 1:45:16 PM
#173
Giving up modkill
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/17/18 11:50:54 AM
#167
MZero11 posted...
Wow did this topic become a game of mafia

Anyway in so hard for Persona 5


Clear attempt to stifle discussion.
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 discussion
Meow1000
06/17/18 11:49:40 AM
#158
Why is Germany losing

What is this sorcery
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:45:42 PM
#153
Oh and Dowolf literally claimed a chair.

A chair
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:41:55 PM
#152
VeryInsane posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Oh and bodyguard is one of the most misplayed roles in Mafia. There's almost no reason for it to ever act night 1 or 2.


What if you arent a good player and you save someone scum shoots normally


Unless the game is small town will have other protection. If you bodyguard someone who gets saved by someone else, you still die because you targeted them too. Bodyguard is best used as a surprise role: Scum was *sure* town had no more protection left in that game. The game also had an ebg, who also died protecting Plum on night 3. I would've been flat out wasting my role to have used it on him.

Now say Plum was a scanner and not a roleblocker. Suddenly that surprise night 5 save ends up with a damning scan scum wasn't prepared for.

Plum actually blocked the kill again on night 6.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:34:02 PM
#144
Oh and bodyguard is one of the most misplayed roles in Mafia. There's almost no reason for it to ever act night 1 or 2.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:31:43 PM
#143
ShatteredElysium posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
I was saving face. Literally my opinion of who I save trumps everyone elses.


You were town doctor and virtually confirmed town. What reason did you have to "save face"? There's very few reasons to lie as town. Corrik lying ****ed that town over too.

Hell, town probably wins that game if people don't lie for no damned reason.


Town win if they don't eat 3 modkills too. Granted scum agreed to use a nightkill to nullify one of those


Irrelevant on the Corrik kill. Scum often wants final 4 over final 3 anyway.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:31:05 PM
#142
ShatteredElysium posted...
Yeah, claiming fake actions can also have the unintended consequence of getting you lynched for lying if someone can contradict it. And then they get lynched too after your flip


The problem is people do it for the wrong reasons, often for "fun". Eaed's exposure really hurt town here. Town has a solid chance of having RB alive with only one scum left of not for that fake scan out of nowhere.

I've told a major lie in one game, and that was claiming vanilla early on as a bodyguard that didn't even act until night 4 and surprised everyone by saving town RB night 5. I planned that out before the game even started.

That's basically it, that's the only time I've told a huge lie as town that potentially had major consequences. Plum blocked the kill night 4 and I could've been caught by the prosty, but I considered the lie to be worth the risk.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:19:59 PM
#137
Alakazamtrainer posted...
I was saving face. Literally my opinion of who I save trumps everyone elses.


You were town doctor and virtually confirmed town. What reason did you have to "save face"? There's very few reasons to lie as town. Corrik lying ****ed that town over too.

Hell, town probably wins that game if people don't lie for no damned reason.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:17:36 PM
#133
turbopuns2 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Oh

Zam lied about his night action targets

He targeted Puns N1 And Chris N2 and I guess because he didnt want to admit he saved scum


Fortunately for town eaed had the doctor role covered.


That fake scan from Corrik on Eaed hardcore bailed scum out this game. That was probably the first time scum had any sense of hope at all.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:16:05 PM
#131
Yeah it was that game.

I've never rooted against a town I was on harder than that one. Very important for town to lose that game.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:09:13 PM
#127
VeryInsane posted...
Oh actually I really enjoyed Hearthstone Mafias setup

Shame theres like nothing around for me to show but it was sweet to build (although Geno kinda wrecked that game)


Wasn't that the game town threw on day 1

And in hindsight it's actually become funny to me that I was the only person on the town that wouldn't throw the game day 1 and I got lynched for it.

The massclaim was entirely led by scum players.

It's really weird though, my day 1 reads are often very good when I'm either mad at or don't care about the game at all, yet I always Lynch town when I give it actually effort.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:07:50 PM
#126
Forceful_Dragon posted...
foolm0r0n posted...
top

tier

doctor

play

not even jokin


No. You must be joking because there is nothing top about that doctor play.

I won't accept that he was pretending to be bad so scum would leave him around. He was just actually being bad with an unintended good side effect of being left alone by scum.


Alakazam is legitimately a bad player, which is actually why he's so hard to mislynch. He can make the most obvious mistakes possible but everyone just expects him to. If he played his scum game anywhere near how he normally plays he would've coasted through. Instead the pressure broke him immediately.

Not surprised he would lie like that just to save a little face.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 11:00:22 PM
#121
Not even surprised.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 10:54:19 PM
#118
Nala is purring.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 10:50:42 PM
#117
Speaking of Fool's role it thematically made tons of sense.

Lotta's pictures are always misleading and inconclusive, never pointing in the right direction. She catches "someone" unidentified that always turns out to be someone other than who people think it is.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 10:45:59 PM
#115
Panthera posted...
Meow1000 posted...
I believe in all my games combined I've been a scanner exactly twice. A watcher that was framed and scum scanned by a cop (which I survived), and..

An unknowing backup detective who was told I was vanilla town. The detective died night 1 and I inherited a scan on myself.


At least you knew the scan was right!


Best scan ever obv
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 10:41:42 PM
#112
No lunch? No wonder town lost, they went hungry.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 10:40:33 PM
#110
I believe in all my games combined I've been a scanner exactly twice. A watcher that was framed and scum scanned by a cop (which I survived), and..

An unknowing backup detective who was told I was vanilla town. The detective died night 1 and I inherited a scan on myself.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 10:36:40 PM
#105
Oh and fairly sure I've seen double godfather setups before. Pretty sure one was run by Chris.
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 10:23:58 PM
#99
Also at least the game didn't have third party "You have lost the game upon receiving this role. Have fun."
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 10:21:16 PM
#98
Arti posted...
RogueNoble posted...
Making mafia games is hard


not really

most of the time when I made signups I didn't even have the roles set yet

^
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 8:22:02 PM
#73
Did someone say Blade Mafia 5
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TopicPhoenix Wright Mafia Topic 12: Post-Turnabout Beginnings
Meow1000
06/16/18 3:00:11 AM
#446
The real problem is day 1 is and always will be a trainwreck and nothing you do can change that. Indecisiveness is at it's highest day 1, though this game didn't really have anything remotely close to a special

Also MI closing his account I'm sure isn't related so much to the game as something that happened. Some out of game event definitely happened that caused him to leave. He's one of the most established players here. If Corrik really was toning it down then I can't see that alone having caused him to leave. I suspect he will return some time in the future to explain what really happened.

I have no idea why Sceptile left, though. Dude was barely active to begin with so maybe he just didn't have it
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TopicPhoenix Wright Mafia Topic 12: Post-Turnabout Beginnings
Meow1000
06/16/18 2:47:48 AM
#440
What is Secret Hitler anyways? It sounds vaguely familiar but that's all I got.

The problem with resistance is there's very little to really master about it. The spies need to either get really lucky, have a really good town, or have some superb coordination.

I won once with Dels as spies because he gave me just enough of a clue. We were both on the team for phase 1 and passed it, both again on phase 2 with someone else and only he failed it, both again on phase 3 with two others and again only he failed it, and it ended up splitting town 1/1 on us and because of that I was able to fail phase 4 to finish it.

But you really need things to fall into place well.
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TopicPhoenix Wright Mafia Topic 12: Post-Turnabout Beginnings
Meow1000
06/16/18 2:47:14 AM
#439
Doesn't sound like MI to have a total breakdown over just that, I'm betting there's an outside influence involved. A pretty big one, and something here is what triggered the self-destruct. Speaking of prophetic, I'm pretty sure Crescent warned the town a few times before she replaced out about towns getting complacent and eventually imploding.

"lol" you guys
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TopicPhoenix Wright Mafia Topic 12: Post-Turnabout Beginnings
Meow1000
06/16/18 2:33:44 AM
#435
Seriously though what the hell did Corrik do to give MI a nervous breakdown is the important thing here
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TopicPhoenix Wright Mafia Topic 12: Post-Turnabout Beginnings
Meow1000
06/16/18 2:31:24 AM
#433
Panthera posted...
Meow1000 posted...

The hell happened and why were there modkills on day 7 by the way?


MI got angry, quit and closed his account. Corrik got modkilled for PMing him, and also discussing the game with other people in the topic. Then the endgame...well, picture the absolute dumbest play you've ever seen in mafia, now imagine it being worse, now imagine it having the name "Panthera" attached to it, and voila! You know how it went down


......

How the crap did MI get that angry?

And how were you that legendarily bad?

One of the issues with IM Mafia is many players can't handle the pace. The fact that we kept it going for years was pretty amazing in and of itself. My behavior is way more erratic in turbo-type games

The thing with forum mafia is it's a grind, so some lurking is useful in order to lessen the overall strain. There's just some people who sign up with no intent to give legitimate effort, and therein lies the problem
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 2:15:11 AM
#47
Also Absurd Mafia we great, we lynched Boko before he made a single post in the game because it was absurd to do.

(Seriously though what did Corrik do to MI)
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TopicMafia discussion topic
Meow1000
06/16/18 2:14:03 AM
#46
In for a game where I don't roll a third party that has no chance whatsoever of winning before the game even starts
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TopicPhoenix Wright Mafia Topic 12: Post-Turnabout Beginnings
Meow1000
06/16/18 2:11:10 AM
#428
Wait scum actually won what

The hell happened and why were there modkills on day 7 by the way?

I stopped paying serious attention to that game when Crescent replaced out and was only keeping tabs on it to tell her when it ended because she wants to elaborate on why she did.
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 discussion
Meow1000
06/15/18 3:46:16 PM
#84
Spain can't be happy at all with a draw here
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 discussion
Meow1000
06/15/18 3:16:15 PM
#72
Talk about a strike

And yeah, Spain's looked better for most of the game.
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 discussion
Meow1000
06/15/18 2:45:53 PM
#60
Oops
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TopicWorld Cup 2018 discussion
Meow1000
06/15/18 2:27:46 PM
#41
Morocco/Iran was such a boring piece of crap and this has been so much better already
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TopicThe new chocolate peanut butter pie Oreos are fucking amazing
Meow1000
06/09/18 8:17:58 PM
#25
This topic just named like 7 flavors of Oreos I've never had and I'm pretty sure have never seen. The blueberry muffin one is the only one that sounds even vaguely familiar.

Where the crap do all these oreos even exist?

Also kettle corn anything is disgusting tbqh.
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TopicTLJ and Solo might be the last straw for Kathleen Kennedy
Meow1000
06/09/18 4:40:37 PM
#164
Thinking of the Poe line in hindsight is interesting now because I don't feel it was as unnecessarily useless but I can definitely remember less about it.
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TopicTLJ and Solo might be the last straw for Kathleen Kennedy
Meow1000
06/09/18 2:43:31 PM
#159
I never even heard of anyone hating TLJ so much outside of b8.

The movie was fine in any case.

Though I'd say if I had a gripe, it's that Finn and Rose got too much air time for how little either character achieved, and of course the worst of that being the 30 minute "side quest".

Neither character did anything to warrant their long screen time.
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TopicNBA Finals Topic: I thought we already made one.
Meow1000
06/09/18 1:37:09 AM
#308
Oh I guess the finals weren't completely predictable. I think most people picked the Warriors>Cavs in 5 instead of 4 back at the start of the preseason.
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TopicNHL Discussion Topic - Purge Edition
Meow1000
06/07/18 11:38:10 PM
#74
Just uh... Don't party too hard.
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