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CapnMuffin posted...

darkjedilink posted...

CapnMuffin posted...

Why do people think saying x = z also means y =\= z?

The point of the movement was to draw attention to a problem. Not bring the problem on others.

That went out the window when BLM leaders demanded police stations disband, and white people give their homes to black people.

A handful of extremists doesnt define the spirit of it in my eyes. And the counters to that are leveled back to the general movement and not just the leaders on a very common basis.

It doesn't matter how it looks 'in your eyes.' Nationally, if your group complains every time a black person is killed while assaulting police, AND outspoken members of your group are asking everyone of a certain race for all their shit, it's a bad look.
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MrPeppers posted...

_Squirtle_ posted...

darkjedilink posted...

But it's a public school. There is no 'expectation of privacy' for curricula.

presentations from students are in a weird area

like if a class has a project and is required to view presentations from their peers(which is pretty common) and a student makes something that talks about how the pay gap is a myth or about lgbtq rights

does that mean the school forced students to learn misogynistic material or about gay people?

If a parent demanded to see those projects, I doubt the teacher would hand them over.

That depends entirely on whether or not the project is an expressed opinion solely of the presenting student, or if the school officially endorses the message. The behavior of the school from the article definitely makes it sound endorsed, in which case parents definitely have a right to at minimum view the content, regardless of its creators.

If they included it in their school-wide anti-bullying campaign as part of Pride, as stated in the article, they officially endorsed the message.
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CapnMuffin posted...

Why do people think saying x = z also means y =\= z?

The point of the movement was to draw attention to a problem. Not bring the problem on others.

That went out the window when BLM leaders demanded police stations disband, and white people give their homes to black people.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Abyssea posted...

JScriv posted...

I agree with this. If its a student project, why is it being used as teaching material and the entire student body being forced to watch it? You cant have it both ways. Sounds like theyre trying to take advantage of a loophole to push an agenda. The whole thing sounds shady.

they weren't "forced" to watch it most likely. that's probably something the liberty counsel made up, as they are so prone to doing.

it was probably playing in the background during a break or something. the kids weren't forced to watch with their eyes bolted open like that guy in a clockwork orange. :u that's what liberty counsel wants to you think though, naturally.

How does that make it okay to keep the school from accessing the YouTube links for the videos they played?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

_Squirtle_ posted...

darkjedilink posted...

But it's a public school. There is no 'expectation of privacy' for curricula.

presentations from students are in a weird area

like if a class has a project and is required to view presentations from their peers(which is pretty common) and a student makes something that talks about how the pay gap is a myth or about lgbtq rights

does that mean the school forced students to learn misogynistic material or about gay people?

If a parent demanded to see those projects, I doubt the teacher would hand them over.

The videos themselves ARE NOT SCHOOL PROJECTS.
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Asherlee10 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I feel conflicted about this. The article says that it's 'student-created work.' And that student-created work should remain protected. I think students should have a degree of privacy most of the time. I think there are a few times when privacy can be broken, but I'm not sure this is one of those time.

Nobody wants the name of the kids, just the information being forced upon 2800 students.

I never brought up about naming the kids. I feel conflicted because I believe there is some value in student-created work being private to the school.

But it's a public school. There is no 'expectation of privacy' for curricula.
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Abyssea posted...

parents don't get to approve every subject their kids are taught. that's crazy. no one has time for all those permission slips.

They literally do. That's the legal requirement for public school. That's the whole point of the PTA, and why 'School Administrator' is an elected position.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Imagine hating Elon Musk or what his companies are doing.

Like, manufacturing death traps that explode into flames if you look at them funny?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Asherlee10 posted...

LightHawKnight posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I feel conflicted about this. The article says that it's 'student-created work.' And that student-created work should remain protected. I think students should have a degree of privacy most of the time. I think there are a few times when privacy can be broken, but I'm not sure this is one of those time.

What privacy? They are showing it to other students and teachers. How is that private?

It doesn't have to be private to just themselves. There is a chosen audience. A 'private' screening almost.

It's not a 'private' screening if it's compulsorily shown to the entire student body.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Asherlee10 posted...

I feel conflicted about this. The article says that it's 'student-created work.' And that student-created work should remain protected. I think students should have a degree of privacy most of the time. I think there are a few times when privacy can be broken, but I'm not sure this is one of those time.

Nobody wants the name of the kids, just the information being forced upon 2800 students.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

3khc posted...

How does this destroy BLM?

Because BLM has demonstrated repeatedly that the lives of cops don't, even if they're black.
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creativerealms posted...

ITT people side with a hate group.

So, you believe that schools should be able to actively hide what they are teaching?

Or are you only okay with this because you agree with the message?
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VTBM posted...

Are they showing gay porn or something?

Nobody knows, because the schools won't give out the links.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Abyssea posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

Homosexuality is against some people's religion. They should teach general tolerance but they shouldn't be spreading gay propaganda around the school.

The school's job isn't to accommodate religious beliefs. It has a duty to all students, including the LGBT ones. If this "gay propaganda" helps reduce bullying, then I'm all for it. When the LGBT kids start bullying the religious one for their beliefs, you let me know.

No, it's not. However, it IS their job to explain to parents, in painful detail, what they're teaching their children.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Abyssea posted...

Oh, boo hoo. If the parents don't like it they can put their kids in private school. With public education you get what you get.

Nope.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

KamenRiderBlade posted...

Then on top of that, they think they're in the right by refusing to let the parents review the material?

technically they're not wrong

if it's a student project then parents technically have no right to view or demand to see it

that being said I remember old anti-bullying videos also having things about gay people

If the school mandates its view, it doesn't matter if it's a 'student project.'
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

gmanthebest posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

I don't understand why people get so upset when people fight with alt-righters and Nazis. Not advocating violence is one thing. Getting upset is another.

Because every time antifa uses violence, it distances normal people.

Also, any proof that this was an "alt right and Nazi" rally?

Never mind this wasn't even a fight against Nazis.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

UnfairRepresent posted...

KamenRiderBlade posted...

If you have nothing to hide, then why was this done in secret without parental notification & approval along with the option to opt out?

Then on top of that, they think they're in the right by refusing to let the parents review the material?

because it was made by students

Not good enough a reason. Like, at all.
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Godnorgosh posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Howl posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Godnorgosh posted...

darkjedilink posted...

And are you seriously going to argue that the situation for these things isn't insanely improved since the '70's

Yes.

Since the 70s, wages have stagnated and decoupled from productivity, and cost of living has increased dramatically. Student loan debt, healthcare costs, and housing costs are all much bigger problems now than they were in the 70s.

lol, never change.

The argument he's making is that to afford the minimum standard of living is higher, but the minimum standard of living today is still so much higher than the minimum standard in the 70s that the argument is fucking ridiculous.

That's my point, that he is arguing literally isn't true.

https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

Is this actually news to you, or am I missing something here?

You don't have a clue why pay rates haven't increased with production, do you?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Howl posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Godnorgosh posted...

darkjedilink posted...

And are you seriously going to argue that the situation for these things isn't insanely improved since the '70's

Yes.

Since the 70s, wages have stagnated and decoupled from productivity, and cost of living has increased dramatically. Student loan debt, healthcare costs, and housing costs are all much bigger problems now than they were in the 70s.

lol, never change.

The argument he's making is that to afford the minimum standard of living is higher, but the minimum standard of living today is still so much higher than the minimum standard in the 70s that the argument is fucking ridiculous.

That's my point, that he is arguing literally isn't true.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Godnorgosh posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Godnorgosh posted...

darkjedilink posted...

And are you seriously going to argue that the situation for these things isn't insanely improved since the '70's

Yes.

Since the 70s, wages have stagnated and decoupled from productivity, and cost of living has increased dramatically. Student loan debt, healthcare costs, and housing costs are all much bigger problems now than they were in the 70s.

lol, never change.

Sorry, I can only present you with facts. I can't make you accept them.

Those aren't even facts, yo.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Godnorgosh posted...

darkjedilink posted...

And are you seriously going to argue that the situation for these things isn't insanely improved since the '70's

Yes.

Since the 70s, wages have stagnated and decoupled from productivity, and cost of living has increased dramatically. Student loan debt, healthcare costs, and housing costs are all much bigger problems now than they were in the 70s.

lol, never change.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

ShinobiNinjaX posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ShinobiNinjaX posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Rob Cesternino posted...

Master_Bass posted...

Do I have to find her or does this girl magically appear?

She magically appears.

Does she submit to my sexual desires?

You sound like you'd be a...difficult husband.

I have sexual compatibility needs that most women aren't into. These need to be accounted for.

At least you didn't deny it.

Why would I deny wanting far more than vanilla sex?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Godnorgosh posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Capn Circus posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Capn Circus posted...

Howl posted...

Wtf is wrong with people today? Everyone who isn't homeless today in this country today objectively has a higher living standard than 99% of people 50 years ago, yet people are attacking each other over made up bullshit.

In what respects are you referring to? Because 30-40 years ago it was quite common to only have one working person (generally the man) per household and still be able to afford a house, car, vacations, children, etc.

This is still possible for some families where the father makes big bucks, but not for most.

Now both parents work just to achieve that. Wages have been stagnant since the 70s and cost of living continues to increase.

Are you just going to pretend standard of living is the same? SOL alone more than outpaces wage stagnation.

What about it has changed so drastically?

The average family wanting the latest and greatest (within reason) during the 70s and 80s was able to mostly achieve that one with person working in the household. They weren't living like millionaires in mansions, but they were to able to afford a middle class lifestyle with the amenities available during that time period.

If they want the exact same thing now, both parents need to be working---in general.

The average poor person today has multiple hi-def tv's, cellphones, gaming consoles, and cars.

The average middle-class person in the 70's didn't even have a VCR for their single MAYBE color TV.

Affordable shelter, education and healthcare take priority over having the latest gadgets.

And are you seriously going to argue that the situation for these things isn't insanely improved since the '70's?

Never mind the fact that gadgets DEFINITELY counts when discussing 'standard of living.'
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Highwind07 posted...

I thought that they don't really draw their katanas out unless they know that they can make a definite quick kill.

Generally true, because katanas are notorious for breaking due to the shit-tier iron their steel is made from.
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Capn Circus posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Capn Circus posted...

Howl posted...

Wtf is wrong with people today? Everyone who isn't homeless today in this country today objectively has a higher living standard than 99% of people 50 years ago, yet people are attacking each other over made up bullshit.

In what respects are you referring to? Because 30-40 years ago it was quite common to only have one working person (generally the man) per household and still be able to afford a house, car, vacations, children, etc.

This is still possible for some families where the father makes big bucks, but not for most.

Now both parents work just to achieve that. Wages have been stagnant since the 70s and cost of living continues to increase.

Are you just going to pretend standard of living is the same? SOL alone more than outpaces wage stagnation.

What about it has changed so drastically?

The average family wanting the latest and greatest (within reason) during the 70s and 80s was able to mostly achieve that one with person working in the household. They weren't living like millionaires in mansions, but they were to able to afford a middle class lifestyle with the amenities available during that time period.

If they want the exact same thing now, both parents need to be working---in general.

The average poor person today has multiple hi-def tv's, cellphones, gaming consoles, and cars.

The average middle-class person in the 70's didn't even have a VCR for their single MAYBE color TV.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

gmanthebest posted...

I like when people try to justify piracy. Just admit that what you're your doing is wrong and just move on.

That's me - I occasionally pirate, but I'm not going to pretend I'm not robbing people of the money I rightfully owe.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

ShinobiNinjaX posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Rob Cesternino posted...

Master_Bass posted...

Do I have to find her or does this girl magically appear?

She magically appears.

Does she submit to my sexual desires?

You sound like you'd be a...difficult husband.

I have sexual compatibility needs that most women aren't into. These need to be accounted for.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

r4X0r posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Those copies are already paid for. Your copy isn't.

The end result is identical. You are playing a game and the publisher is not seeing a penny of revenue for it.

Except, with the exception of borrowing, they actually are. If you read the rest of my post, you'd see that.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Capn Circus posted...

Howl posted...

Wtf is wrong with people today? Everyone who isn't homeless today in this country today objectively has a higher living standard than 99% of people 50 years ago, yet people are attacking each other over made up bullshit.

In what respects are you referring to? Because 30-40 years ago it was quite common to only have one working person (generally the man) per household and still be able to afford a house, car, vacations, children, etc.

This is still possible for some families where the father makes big bucks, but not for most.

Now both parents work just to achieve that. Wages have been stagnant since the 70s and cost of living continues to increase.

Are you just going to pretend standard of living is the same? SOL alone more than outpaces wage stagnation.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

GATTJT posted...

darkjedilink posted...

They played it, though, when it was $60, meanig they owe $60.

And what about people who rent games? If I go to Redbox and rent a 60 dollar game, and complete it, do I then owe 60 bucks to the publisher?

Or how about those who buy pre-owned? The publishers don't see a nickel of pre-owned game sales.

Those copies are already paid for. Your copy isn't.

As a matter of fact, rental copies are INSANELY expensive - literally hundreds, and sometimes even thousands, of dollars per copy.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Howl posted...

Wtf is wrong with people today? Everyone who isn't homeless today in this country today objectively has a higher living standard than 99% of people 50 years ago, yet people are attacking each other over made up bullshit.

Well, most of the press have people convinced that the First Amendment is actually wrong, and the Second Amendment will lead to Mad Max.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Rob Cesternino posted...

Master_Bass posted...

Do I have to find her or does this girl magically appear?

She magically appears.

Does she submit to my sexual desires?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

GATTJT posted...

darkjedilink posted...

You said you 'later' bought it legitimately. If you pirated a game when it was $60, then legitimately bought the game when it was on a $5 Steam sale, that's still lost revenue.

No it isn't, because pirates wouldn't buy a game at full retail price just because they couldn't pirate it.

They played it, though, when it was $60, meanig they owe $60.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

catboy0_0 posted...

\_()_/

That's all the response I need.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

FLUFFYGERM posted...

coward hid behind a mask and used a weapon but still got bodied lmao

Yet another piece of evidence that, if libs push a legitimate civil war, they're going to lose.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

catboy0_0 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

catboy0_0 posted...

many games I played in my piracy days, which I've decided to end, are games I've gone back to purchase legitimately

Did you pay the average retail cost of the game when you pirated it?

wat

You said you 'later' bought it legitimately. If you pirated a game when it was $60, then legitimately bought the game when it was on a $5 Steam sale, that's still lost revenue.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

catboy0_0 posted...

many games I played in my piracy days, which I've decided to end, are games I've gone back to purchase legitimately

Did you pay the average retail cost of the game when you pirated it?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

thronedfire2 posted...

everyone knew this already

Nope. Pot culture has been claiming for years that smoking pot CURES this stuff.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Darklit_Minuet posted...

PoopPotato posted...

What happens if I let my friend borrow Zelda?

You've deprived the publishers of a sale and thus are a thief, apparently. Doesn't matter if you weren't originally going to buy it, because YOU'RE A THIEF

If you weren't going to buy it, you have no right to play it. Therefore, you're a thief.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

mistalightbulb posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Piracy is stealing, flat-out. Support creators

what if you do both

How do you support creators by taking their product for free, against their wishes?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

KamenRiderBlade posted...

darkjedilink posted...

A dictator would be great, if his policies reflect mine.

That's what every Vicious Dictator states.

My point exactly.
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My gf blew me twice so far today.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

A dictator would be great, if his policies reflect mine.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Knight with armor is really slow. The samurai has the speed advantage while the knight has the defense advantage. The knight can be toppled and he would be vulnerable on the ground, while mid-range combat would favor the knight.

It could go either way.

A katana would likely break on a suit of full plate. It would DEFINITELY break against a longsword or zweihander.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Dash_Harber posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

darkjedilink posted...

I'm well aware he got promoted halfway through. Doesn't cover for DS9 being shit-tier.

What don't you like about it? I know it's a divisive, "love-it-or-hate-it" sort of deal, but I'm curious why.

It's not Trek. Like, at all. It's dark for the sake of being dark, because Rick Berman hated Gene Roddenberry's vision of a hopeful future.

I actually disagree. I think DS9 found the perfect balance. It's not so idealistic as to be cheesy, but it's also not so dark as to be depressing and pointless. Even the darkest stories generally have a very optimistic slant.

Read the behind-the-scense stuff about Rick Berman. He wanted it to he as anti-Trek as possible.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Smashingpmkns posted...

Yeah but only Republicans are pro-imprisoning children.

Then why did Obama do it to tens of thousands of children?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Dash_Harber posted...

darkjedilink posted...

I'm well aware he got promoted halfway through. Doesn't cover for DS9 being shit-tier.

What don't you like about it? I know it's a divisive, "love-it-or-hate-it" sort of deal, but I'm curious why.

It's not Trek. Like, at all. It's dark for the sake of being dark, because Rick Berman hated Gene Roddenberry's vision of a hopeful future.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

The US right basically wants a christian version of sharia law, like equally as extreme as sharia, just based on christianity instead of islam

While the US left wants this woman and her daughter dead.
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Howl posted...

3khc posted...

I'm not saying the problem is fixed because I know we'll have some long dry spell again. Plus it seemed kinda forced since she obviously only made an effort after I kept on bringing up how I keep trying to initiate and she doesn't reciprocate. But for now we good.

No... You're honestly not good at all. She pity fucked you out of sheer guilt. Either go to a therapist with her or just leave. That's the sad reality of your situation and you need to face up to it.

This.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen