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holy fuck, I actually really like that. Veemon's one of my favs!
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BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Oh it would be more the Decidueye part that would be disappointing, I do like Articuno (and Decidueye tbf) but the combo of them in the final just seems so plain to me
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

I.....would be somewhat disappointed with a safe final like that
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

@Drakeryn I wanted to see your take on Incineroar ='(
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Also Megalo Box episode 9 beat

This show is so god damn interesting with the fact that the fights themselves aren't really notable or interesting but building up the character and motivations during the fights is what makes them so good. The fights have been going like: opponent beats up Joe, Joe falls down and almost counts out but DOESN'T, Joe doesn't give up, Joe gets the better of the opponent. Pretty basic formula. But in that time of creating these backstories for his opponents and then weaving them into the fights, it really comes off strong in the end. Pretty fascinating how it pulls it off, hope it can continue to with future fights.
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Totally forgot FLCL season was starting tonight
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Empoleon ruined Piplup
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

np, I also do really like it
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Yu Yu Hakusho
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Fuck that would have felt so good to be the one to eliminate him, god damn
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Fuck if it lasted 2 minutes I could have gotten Empoleon out, I'm so upset right now
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

people should save flareon imo
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Decidueye
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

auto trade for Flareon can save now
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Fine I'll accept that he's just enormously clueless, still sketchy though
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

lol alright actually my dude good troll, I applaud you
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

If my save for DBZ way back when wasn't counted just because it had a question mark after it, there's no way in hell something like that got counted

And if it did than that's kinda more fucked to DBZ getting out that one time
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Can we also take the initiative and ban Pirate whoever, that's twice in a row now and we even told him he could save right then and he just didn't
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

alright I guess I'll just do this

Dragon Ball
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

On the topic of mental illness......sure he has some decent lines here and there about it. Goes back to the potential I said of this album. But honestly a good amount of them seem hamfisted to me. I apologize if that offends anyone who connects with them and really connects with this album for that reason.

Also it was already stated but when you have a cover that just says "I hate being bi-polar it's awesome".....is this really the way you want to praise how he talks about mental illness? Or just brush aside all the other problematic shit he talks about because "oh but he talks about mental illness see he's clearly struggling". I feel like there's a difference between "oh look he's talking about mental illness how noble" and HOW he's talking about mental illness. It comes off as surface level a lot of the time to me. Again, there ARE some lines that start to dig a bit deeper, but I don't think it ever really gets to the place he wants it to be. That's another huge problem with this album, Kanye thinks he's bringing new light to all these discussions and adding insightful, mind blowing thoughts......when he's really not, and he's late to the party in pretty much all of these things. He's been in a bubble for so long that he never noticed that discussion was happening around him and IS still happening, it didn't just take off now that he's decided to take notice and speak publicly about it.

I believe he has these feelings that are genuine, and sure this could be a step in general because just TALKING openly about mental illness is better than shaming it. But that only gets you to a certain point I think.
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Sorry I had gone to sleep, Solio all of what you've said is fair. I just don't think you did that last post on the last page well, and it really came off as not wanting to acknowledge the effort I put into trying to explain myself on the album so that's why I reacted like that. Different interpretations are fair.

Extha, YOU however look like did not read my post. Or just conveniently ignored the parts where I talk about the music and production itself and not the lyrics. I said the whole thing reeks of being half baked to me. I actually went into this album thinking that despite everything going on with Kanye, I would end up liking it quite a bit! That's what happened with TLOP. I honestly thought it would be another situation like that, because I do quite like TLOP. That didn't happen however. He did not provide.

ExThaNemesis posted...

there's no way you got all that from a first listen

.....you think I didn't listen to this album more than once? You don't think I gave an artist who I had placed at near the top of my all time list a real chance? I've listened through this album 4 times. It was only going to be 3 at first but then after seeing Solio's comments I made sure to go through it again to make sure I solidified my thoughts and that I wasn't talking out of my ass. It also helps with how short it is, Lord help me if this thing was like 15 tracks long.

I WANTED to like this album. I WANTED him to transcend whatever shitty things he's been doing. For me, and for quite a few people I know, he does not. Not that that applies to everyone.
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Alright first off

Did you just ignore my paragraphs on the two specific songs you say you like and skip right to that, and then try to say "OH BUT HE SAYS THINGS ON THESE PAST ALBUMS" to justify this one? I've already covered that he's been problematic, I even say

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

And it hurts more for how problematic he has become (more so than in the past)

and on the topic of TLOP

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Even The Life of Pablo, which you could argue the same things for, still had....honestly I'm not sure, it just sounded better than whatever this album is.

I've acknowledged the shit that TLOP has on it. Yea that line is also problematic in ways, I won't lie I still think it's sort of dope in a hype up sort of sense but I'm not going around parading that line saying that's the pinnacle of TLOP (although honestly that song it's on might be my favorite because I quite love the production and progression on it). It's like you completely ignored my post right to that to try to make a GOTCHA moment on me for nothing.
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

http://yenerator.com/

In case you wanna create your own cover
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

oh, fair enough you know me too well then haha
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

whoa whoa whoa whoa I explained a big chunk of what I thought above, that was me being real and explaining my complaints with the album. Yes I'm facetious now and then like my post right above but come on. I even said it had potential and that I'm happy for those that like it even though I don't!
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

In the loosest set of terms yes I suppose that is a thing he's doing on this album
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

you know it's being bi-polar he's touting around not ADHD right
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Yu Yu Hakusho
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Anagram posted...

I've never asked, but probably Vlado.

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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

oh.....that's inventive I'll give them that but ain't no way I'm listening through 35 tracks in a row for an album, especially one that involves this album
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

That's....not a theory, that's a thing that's happening yes. He's producing all 5 albums, they're coming out week after week, Pusha's was the first, he told everyone to just do 7 songs to keep it tight and focused.
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

On that note I really think Cudi sounds baaaaaaaaaad on Ghost Town, like that note he hits, or fails to, when he says "try" and then goes into "just takes you further from me"? Oof
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Fate/Zero
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

On a more positive note Daytona by Pusha T is fucking great and Kanye does wonders on there working with Pusha. If you haven't listened to Daytona go do that.
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Solioxrz362 posted...

I'll challenge that

Wouldn't Leave is about Kanye's... insanity, for lack of a better word, causing issues between him and Kim. And she stuck with him, and this is basically a love letter to both sides of that.

Violent Crimes is Kanye being afraid for his daughter, knowing that she could face all the things that most women have to deal with, especially guys who are predators and perverts.

Unless you're saying that you just don't believe Kanye really cares about this stuff, I'm kinda questioning how you think this doesn't mean anything at all. That's maybe not the most emotional stuff he's ever written but it's honest and it's from his heart.

alright I'll bite now that I'm home

Wouldn't Leave has him yet again brushing off his slavery was a choice comment by talking about how everyone freaked out.....oh but don't worry Kim won't leave me for that and we love each other. Like what? In general he's brushing off his controversial views on the song, thinking that he's on higher plane so it doesn't matter.

Violent Crimes' message is just tirelessly overdone by men thinking they're being more manly by stating and that message itself is quite controlling, even under the guise of "oh I'll protect you".

Throughout this whole album cycle Kanye has been saying that everything will be explained on the album, multiple people saying everything about Kanye's recent actions will be explained on the album.....but when you get down to it, nothing is really explained at all. He throws around questions and references but never actually works to answer them. Meanwhile throwing in lines like

"Russell Simmons wanna pray for me too
I'ma pray for him 'cause he got #MeToo'd
Thinkin' what if that happened to me too
Then I'm on E! News"

Those are just straight fucked lines, I'm sorry. And then we get shit like "Ayy, none of us would be here without cum" which is just a laughably terrible line, "I put my hand on a stove, to see if I still bleed", uhhhhhhh really? That was the best you could come up with? "Don't get your tooth chipped like Frito-Lay" is pretty bad too, ain't nobody would be praising shit like that for other artists.

So outside of the actual lines, everything still feels half-baked and just not finished in every song. The beats are weak most of the time and even when they're getting somewhere he doesn't complement them well. This is a man that used to pride himself on the intricacy of producing music and the craft, and this shit feels slapped together most of the time. Even The Life of Pablo, which you could argue the same things for, still had....honestly I'm not sure, it just sounded better than whatever this album is. He had a better ear for things on TLOP than on here that's for sure.

Now this album HAS SOME potential. There are some hooks that could work. But they don't go all the way. Some of his flows could work if he didn't have god awful lines. Some of his LINES could work if they had the consistency to back them up. But he just doesn't on this. When this dropped last night I predicted it would still get like a 72 on Metacritic and mostly 7's across the board. There are people that are gonna like it, which honestly more power to them it would be nice if I did. But it hurts that someone who I've enjoyed every other album he's put out releases.....this. And it hurts more for how problematic he has become (more so than in the past), and it now has translated to his music.
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Luster why did you show me that now I'm seeing that they have Midnight Lycanroc and Typhlosion plush there
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

I have a Dragonite and Litten my friend got me from a Pokemon Center in Japan, a Squirtle and Cyndaquil I got myself from the Nintendo Store in NYC, and a bootleg Typhlosion from New York Comic Con that I got for free because the dude running the booth was super dope.
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

maybe i'm a lion
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Also you can be an asshole and still have an amazing diss, I dunno how those have to be separate
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Iron Man 2 is at the bottom of the MCU for me along with Thor 2

And actually Avengers 2 is pretty far down.....luckily Captain America 2 and GOTG 2 give the 2's a good name!
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Sucks because I was on the phone during the end half of that round, I probably would have NR'd Mimikyu if I was paying attention
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Evangelion
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BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Lycanroc or bust now
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

well I tried, you guys are bad
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Mimikyu
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BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Yea it was 4 years, they really screwed themselves and the potential they had with that. Probably looking over at MHA like "damn that could have been us if we kept up"
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Fate/Zero
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Espeon
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BKSheikah got me good in Guru

Lasa back in the day people DIED over beefs I dunno what you're on about
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru

My Hero Academia
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Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down
BKSheikah got me good in Guru