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| Topic | Why don't most pro-life people act like an atrocity is happening? |
| legendary_zell 06/29/18 12:06:36 AM #1 | The most charitable view of the pro-life position is that they wholeheartedly believe a fetus or a zygote is a living human being that is completely innocent. Thus an abortion is the murder of the most innocent people in society, before they get a chance to do anything. This is happening in the millions, especially to poor people and POC. That's millions of lives snuffed out every year right? If taken seriously, how is that not by far the biggest issue in society? How are people claiming they are pro-life and living normal lives and not in a constant uproar if a baby holocaust is going on, right in their backyard? Instead, I see most of the venom concerning abortion directed at women's sexual activity, advocating limiting sexual education, limiting access to contraception etc, none of which is likely to reduce the number of abortions, while doing the opposite has been proven to save lives. I see people supporting the abortion in the case of sexual assault which seems strange There's definitely a small class of true believers who act as you'd expect if they really thought the problem with abortion is that babies are dying. They do terrible things like bomb clinics, harass women, and support hyper-controlling and punitive laws, but that makes sense if you really think lives are at stake. So WTF are these other "pro-life" people doing then? There's been tons of debates, even on this site about abortion and not once did I get the sense that people truly believed innocent lives were at stake. From the discussions I've seen about abortion here and elsewhere, the actions/inaction and rhetoric of 95% of pro-lifers make much more sense if the driving goal issue is controlling women and punishing them for sexual activity that is immoral in their view. --- |
| Topic | So any form of masculinity is considered toxic now |
| legendary_zell 06/27/18 4:05:00 PM #14 | Omega Hunter posted... This is all the result of this fucked up gynocentric society. Yes all masculinity is considered toxic. It's toxic because it's a game only men can win, women cannot beat men at being masculine. They can't be tougher then us, they can't be more independent then us, they can't be more ambitious then us, more courageous, more disciplined, etc. The only choice they have is to demonize what makes men men...in the hopes that men will shun being men. You have really warped ideas on pretty much everything. --- |
| Topic | So any form of masculinity is considered toxic now |
| legendary_zell 06/27/18 3:46:17 PM #2 | Victim blaming and attacking one of the few males who shared his story after he has explained why he didn't "defend himself" is pretty toxic. Of course he could have killed the guy with his bare hands, but that's not the point. Defending himself would have gotten him blacklisted and sued and it would be far worse for most people in that situation. Instead of focusing on him, focus on the abuser. --- |
| Topic | Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court |
| legendary_zell 06/27/18 3:29:36 PM #156 | Antifar posted... https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/1012047617466003456 I think the democratic party may be fundamentally broken and they do not understand politics, their opponents, their constituents or anything else that leads to winning. Is there a single person with a backbone or who understands what's at stake or what the rank and file wants? --- |
| Topic | Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court |
| legendary_zell 06/27/18 3:06:16 PM #121 | BWLurker2 posted... legendary_zell posted...It's highly unlikely that the person he appoints will overturn the gay marriage ruling or even Roe v. Wade. I don't think they'll do it for institutional reasons. Overturning either would be a major cultural flashpoint that would destroy bipartisan respect for the court. That's really the court's biggest asset and the one thing it's the scaredest to damage as an institutional body. It's a major reason for the political question doctrine. If they pull the trigger on either issue, half the country would no longer consider them a legitimate institution, they'd be considered an arm of the Republican party. That would be the realization of a threat social liberals have been scared of for a long time and would be the legit rollback of women's rights that has been a boogeyman up until now. --- |
| Topic | Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court |
| legendary_zell 06/27/18 2:57:59 PM #107 | Can't sugarcoat it, this is really bad. It's highly unlikely that the person he appoints will overturn the gay marriage ruling or even Roe v. Wade. But decisions related to state and federal civil rights for almost every protected group, voting rights, basically anything where aggressive judicial enforcement of rights and progressive evolution of the law is necessary....that's dead for a long time. The things that will be rolled back are privacy rights, immigrants rights, workers rights, restrictions on corporate power etc. This is bad. Can't give up even though things look bleak. Hopefully all of this is the ultimate lesson that politics matter, elections matter, and there is a HUGE difference in parties. --- |
| Topic | The girl who toppled Joe Crowley is very attractive |
| legendary_zell 06/27/18 11:24:45 AM #7 | DeadSite posted... https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1011791408162799618?s=19 Holy crap, that's amazing. She picked the right guy to run against, he clearly didn't understand the times, his district, or what was happening. But even beyond that, this is inspiring. --- |
| Topic | I can't live this lie anymore. One time I watched a porno before I turned 18 |
| legendary_zell 06/26/18 8:20:44 PM #8 | .....I.....I.....I once went to Disney channel website without asking for my parent's permission first. It's been eating me alive since. --- |
| Topic | Algeria is abandoning thousands of migrants in the Sahara Desert |
| legendary_zell 06/26/18 7:27:26 PM #48 | You've become a much worse poster recently. What happened? You used to be one of the more reasonable non-leftists but this topic is abhorrent and something Madfoot or Mal_Fet would post. --- |
| Topic | Should the state mandate birth control for people receiving public support? |
| legendary_zell 06/25/18 9:30:46 AM #73 | lucidsun22 posted... legendary_zell posted...If y'all had your way, human rights wouldn't really exist because you fundamentally don't respect them, especially for people who do things you don't like People in this topic have supported stripping others of one of the most fundamental human rights (reproductive freedom and the right to have children), with no other information than that they are poor enough to need welfare. That's pretty clear evidence of a lack of respect for human rights. And it's not just this topic, any topic where there's a discussion of a human rights issue, half of CE is giddy at the thought of abridging or abolishing that right or denying it to some disfavored group. There's no leaping required. --- |
| Topic | Should the state mandate birth control for people receiving public support? |
| legendary_zell 06/25/18 12:45:01 AM #67 | The world that some of you seem to want in the name of "logic" and "personal responsibility" would be an absolute dystopia. If y'all had your way, human rights wouldn't really exist because you fundamentally don't respect them, especially for people who do things you don't like. This is eugenics and stripping a fundamental right from someone because they are poor, but it's acceptable to propose things like this because people don't understand human rights and because blatant classism is okay. --- |
| Topic | South Korea rules that it is illegal to kill dogs for food in landmark case. |
| legendary_zell 06/22/18 3:26:40 PM #13 | So the distinction between what's okay to kill and eat and not kill and eat still revolves around us and not the animal itself? It's about their use to us and our attitude towards them? I don't think that makes sense and it's exposing that our rules about which animals we can kill and eat are tortured and non-sensical. I really don't see how it's possible to justify eating pigs but not cats and dogs. Any logical rule would allow both to be food or keep both from being food. Whether that leads to vegetarianism or eating all animals, I don't know, but the way we do it now is ridiculous. --- |
| Topic | Immigrant children forcibly injected with drugs, lawsuit claims |
| legendary_zell 06/20/18 3:23:36 PM #13 | BillyKidd posted... Illegals are coming across the border with scabies, lice, drug resistant tuberculosis, polio, malaria, chagas disease, dengue fever, leprosy, marburg disease and the bubonic plague. But sure, let's not treat highly contagious and deadly diseases. Where's the evidence that this has anything to do with disease control rather than behavior control? This is nothing more than fear mongering and a use of the "diseased foreigner" stereotype. --- |
| Topic | Raising a half-Black child in Japan sounds dreadful. |
| legendary_zell 06/19/18 1:29:32 AM #55 | kayoticdreamz posted... people tend to be homogeneous. look at america for a great example of this, despite a clusterfuck of diversity, we still have lots of areas that are mostly broken up by racial and even religious lines. This is explicitly racial nationalist BS. It is racism and it's not acceptable or justifiable. --- |
| Topic | Its time to remove Einstein from the pantheon of scientists, he was a racist |
| legendary_zell 06/15/18 10:24:41 AM #54 | I've yet to see a liberal or any type of leftist actually make this argument. And even if some are, they are in the extreme minority of even lefties.Seems like people are rushing to call out the version of a liberal in their head, based on their misconception of what libs believe. --- |
| Topic | Fuck David Hogg |
| legendary_zell 06/13/18 9:33:17 PM #23 | There's no way this should stay up. How would CBS feel about being known for this type of content? --- |
| Topic | What is toxic masculinity ? |
| legendary_zell 06/13/18 7:36:30 PM #11 | John_Galt posted... Who cares This is it. --- |
| Topic | Bill Clinton; norms have really changed in terms of what you can do to somebody |
| legendary_zell 06/12/18 6:49:25 PM #11 | Balrog0 posted... legendary_zell posted...I don't think that's actually what's happening Because I don't want the Clinton syndicate to disappear me. Just judging by his words, that's exactly what it seems like. --- |
| Topic | Bill Clinton; norms have really changed in terms of what you can do to somebody |
| legendary_zell 06/12/18 10:18:07 AM #7 | This guy is profoundly lucky he came up when he did. He'd have rightfully been crucified. He almost sounds like he's reminiscing of glory days gone by when he could get away with those things and then tacks on an indication that he doesn't feel that way. I don't think that's actually what's happening, but he really could have phrased this better. --- |
| Topic | Teacher claims school forced his resignation over not using trans student's name |
| legendary_zell 06/08/18 8:26:50 PM #63 | This isn't protected speech by the teacher. Under current law, public employers are still allowed to set policies and make decisions. Teachers are allowed to speak out on matters of public concern as a private citizen, but this isn't that. This is just a teacher singling out and intentionally misgendering a student. It wouldn't be any more acceptable if he called all white students by their first name and handled the only black student in a different manner. It wouldn't be compelled speech to require the teacher to stop discriminating in that situation and it isn't here. I doubt someone's name could even be recognized as speech as a threshold matter. --- |
| Topic | Persona 4 > Persona 3 > Persona 5 |
| legendary_zell 06/07/18 9:18:14 PM #27 | I really like media with strong personalities and group interactions, therefore 4 wins because I value that disproportionately. The gameplay and amount of content in 5 is way way better, I never got tired of it like I did towards the end of 4. 3 is hampered by characters other than Aigis and MC, but the stakes of the story make the most sense and was the best. --- |
| Topic | Movies that are impossible to dislike |
| legendary_zell 06/05/18 12:41:55 AM #77 | I saw the first Back to the Future yesterday. Back to the Future for sure. The Empire Strikes Back too. --- |
| Topic | $500,000,000 but one random US Amendment is instantly repealed |
| legendary_zell 06/05/18 12:01:32 AM #75 | 16th amendment, so no income tax, a conservative dream. Would definitely mess up my plans for any public program. Only worse ones would be the 1st and the 13-15th since I'm black. --- |
| Topic | SUPREME COURT DECIDES FOR CHRISTIAN BAKERS! No longer can lesbians demand |
| legendary_zell 06/04/18 11:07:01 AM #37 | People aren't familiar with the concept of procedural rulings on major cases. The court does this all the time, they addressed the easier issue that was clear to avoid ruling on the difficult and more controversial issue. I'd have to read a lot more to see if this a fair ruling since it's based on an alleged lack of due process in the state proceeding. --- |
| Topic | Honda Accord or Honda Civic? Which car is better? |
| legendary_zell 05/24/18 12:41:38 AM #43 | I drove both, I went to the dealership with the intent to get a Civic. I drove away in an Accord. The ride is much smoother, the appliances are 10x better, the interior is better. But the price increase may still not be worth it and the Civic is more maneuverable and is still excellent. --- |
| Topic | Muslims were forced to eat pork and drink alcohol at Chinese camps, say inmates |
| legendary_zell 05/19/18 4:57:26 PM #5 | That's a human rights violation, it's like being forced to eat roaches probably a dog for most of us. Some people eat dogs, but that goesn't make it okay for you to be forced to eat dogs in an attempt to eradicate a culture. Plus there's also far more beyond "just" this,these are straight up concentration camps. --- |
| Topic | Liking Jordan Peterson isn't cool anymore |
| legendary_zell 05/18/18 3:59:22 PM #56 | What does JP believe when it comes to society and social change then? If Antifar is wrong, how is he wrong. He's actually stated what he thinks the guy believes and without referring people to hours of videos. So summarize what he believes. --- |
| Topic | "These aren't people. These are animals." |
| legendary_zell 05/16/18 5:13:51 PM #55 | IfGodCouldDie posted... COVxy posted...The Admiral posted...Literally was talking about gang and cartel members from other countries who commit despicable crimes, but dont let that stop the outrage. No. They are brain washed humans that turned off their empathy and committed heinous acts, but they are fully human. By what process does a person "dehumanize" themselves? Nothing actually changes about them at all, all that changes is that others feel free to act with cruelty towards them with impunity because others feel the same way. That's literally it. --- |
| Topic | "These aren't people. These are animals." |
| legendary_zell 05/16/18 4:55:19 PM #42 | YourDrunkFather posted... COVxy posted...The Admiral posted...COVxy posted...The Admiral posted...Literally was talking about gang and cartel members from other countries who commit despicable crimes, but dont let that stop the outrage. I think this point is an attempt to draw a false equivalence. I support calling them out for being horrible people, for advocating the violation of civil and human rights, and prosecuting them for whatever crimes they commit, but I don't support any actions or statements that deny their humanity. They are humans and deserve a basic level of respect and treatment, even if they are gutter trash level humans. Even Hitler himself was still a full fledged human and not any form of animal. The grand wizard of the KKK is a human. Richard Spencer is a human. And I'm saying this as a black immigrant. --- |
| Topic | "These aren't people. These are animals." |
| legendary_zell 05/16/18 4:48:57 PM #39 | GregShmedley posted... >they're not people, they're animals All of those are wrong. Dehumanization is the predicate for all of humanities worst acts and shouldn't be tolerated. The response to barbaric behavior isn't more barbaric behavior and even more lack of empathy. --- |
| Topic | "These aren't people. These are animals." |
| legendary_zell 05/16/18 4:47:02 PM #34 | shockthemonkey posted... legendary_zell posted...Dehumanization is always the first step to committing atrocities against groups of people and should be fought against in every instance. Every single person is human and has rights and should be treated accordingly. The president should be someone who respects fundamental human rights and not someone who lays the ground work for and then authorizes human rights violations. The problem is the people. Lots of people, including several posters in a row don't really value human rights. They think that if you dislike a person enough or consider them a bad enough person, they somehow forfeit their humanity and give society the green light to be barbaric towards them. It's not a bad thing to be inhumane to these people and you are weak for having a shred of empathy for them as people capable of suffering. Huge numbers of people feel that way. Especially when you add in foreign nationality and skin color into the mix, that really speeds up the process of calling certain people animals who have forfeited the right to have people care when they are treated as sub humans. --- |
| Topic | "These aren't people. These are animals." |
| legendary_zell 05/16/18 4:36:51 PM #27 | Dehumanization is always the first step to committing atrocities against groups of people and should be fought against in every instance. Every single person is human and has rights and should be treated accordingly. The president should be someone who respects fundamental human rights and not someone who lays the ground work for and then authorizes human rights violations. --- |
| Topic | The Onion's coverage of the goings-on in Israel is amazing |
| legendary_zell 05/16/18 11:19:16 AM #25 | There's a reason people have to insist that everyone harmed was a rioter or terrorist or a sympathizer for one of those groups and certainly couldn't have been there speaking out against Israeli policy in general. It's an admission that Israel's actions are completely unjustified otherwise and thus people most perform extreme mental gymnastics to push everyone there into those categories. --- |
| Topic | White House eliminates its top cybersecurity post |
| legendary_zell 05/15/18 5:42:18 PM #6 | Every single day he does something that would be a huge ethic, political, or international scandal in another administration and for good reason. Any other president that got rid of a post like this under similar circumstances to those involving Trump and Russian interference would be strung up by their toes. For Trump it's just Tuesday. --- |
| Topic | Jordan Peterson was on the breakfast show at BBC Radio 2 this morning |
| legendary_zell 05/15/18 10:11:51 AM #77 | He's popular because he's telling a certain type of person what they want to hear in the way they want to hear it. He looks and speaks like many think an intellectual should look and speak like. He's someone they can cite to give authority to beliefs they already had, he's not really teaching anyone anything. He's a tool used to attack SJWs and support people's preexisting beliefs, that's why he's become such a rallying point for some. Him and Milo are basically the logical conclusion of many people's fixation on decorum, calmness, and seeming "reasonable". You can say heinous or inane things as long as you say them while wearing a nice suit, have nice hair, and a professorial demeanor and people will lionize you for being a voice of clarity in a world gone PC. --- |
| Topic | New NRA president calls the Parkland kids "criminal civic terrorists" |
| legendary_zell 05/11/18 6:00:23 PM #30 | DarkTransient posted... Giant_Aspirin posted...The23rdMagus posted...DarkTransient posted...Well I mean, these kids ARE pushing for the mentally disabled to be treated worse than blacks ever were under Jim Crow, so there's that... What is beyond a total gun ban? You guys want to portray these people as hyperventilating, overemotional ideologues but based on this topic, that's a great way to describe you.. This is a shameful, a historical, revisionist comparison between people who were killed, beaten, and jailed for fighting against racial subjugation and apartheid on behalf of the marginalized vs well funded gun organizations and gun owners who may be losing a political battle and have had no violence occur towards them. --- |
| Topic | Four women accuse NY Attorney General Eric Schneiderman of abuse |
| legendary_zell 05/07/18 10:37:01 PM #19 | |
| Topic | If a person like Superman really existed, what could humans do about it? |
| legendary_zell 05/07/18 9:44:56 PM #21 | They would be our new god. There is literally nothing we could do to actually hurt him. Maybe we could guilt him or shame him into not completely warping life as we know it, but he could do whatever he wanted at anytime. Assuming even nukes could hurt him, all he'd have to do is get an apartment in Manhattan and he'd become invincible. --- |
| Topic | Four women accuse NY Attorney General Eric Schneiderman of abuse |
| legendary_zell 05/07/18 9:30:52 PM #14 | Smashingpmkns posted... You would think a guy who would do that shit would be as far away from the #metoo movement as possible. Maybe he thought it would provide cover or win him brownie points once he inevitably went down? Maybe he compartmentalizes his life and separate public and private actions? Maybe he genuinely doesn't believe he did anything wrong? Regardless, he should be done. AGs are incredibly replaceable, their underlings actually run the offices anyway, so it shouldn't be too big a deal in terms of policy. --- |
| Topic | Name an awful song that was popular. |
| legendary_zell 05/06/18 4:24:18 AM #85 |  This is probably my least favorite song of all time. It's just so far from what I look for in music and so grating that I have a visceral reaction every time I hear it. --- |
| Topic | Name an awful song that was popular. |
| legendary_zell 05/06/18 3:21:32 AM #80 | NepGear462 posted... A thing called Love by the Darkness What? Delete your account. --- |
| Topic | Name an awful song that was popular. |
| legendary_zell 05/06/18 3:19:04 AM #78 | WilliamPorygon posted... All About That Bass Trainor is gutter trash in general. --- |
| Topic | One of the best moments of Infinity War *SPOILERS* |
| legendary_zell 05/04/18 11:10:17 AM #30 | dave_is_slick posted... MacadamianNut3 posted... Those posts are some of the funniest I've seen. That's why I love how nerd culture and black culture are coming together. It's a beautiful thing. --- |
| Topic | People of color is used to United races against whites and is wrong. |
| legendary_zell 05/01/18 4:29:03 PM #4 | Well it's a side effect of history. At least in America, people's treatment, place in society, and opportunities have historically been divided into white and non white. That forced people who otherwise had nothing in common to develop at least some shared identity based on otherness and worse treatment. Until that goes away and has been gone for a long time, POC will have solidarity as POC. --- |
| Topic | Who created this "toxic masculinity" narrative? |
| legendary_zell 04/29/18 3:51:16 PM #153 | IfGodCouldDie posted... Funbazooka posted...Pretending that toxic masculinity isn't a core tenet of feminism is not a convincing tactic. There's no point in trying to reason with him. The concept has already been explained in a crystal clear manner several times in this topic. He is not engaging in good faith, he's so focused on being anti-feminazi that he can't or wont see reason and won't stop associating the term with his idea of radical feminism. The word triggers him. --- |
| Topic | Toddler dies as hospital and courts refused treatment options |
| legendary_zell 04/28/18 1:59:23 PM #72 | Sativa_Rose posted... legendary_zell posted...The government may have stopped them from leaving, but that was pursuant to the correct and humane decision that the child's doctors made. We are talking about two completely different things. You are essentially talking about death panels where the government makes the first and final decisions about life and death. I'm talking about this actual, real life situation where doctors make the decision, it is clearly correct, even the second and third opinion agree, only the irrational parents and outside political forces disagree. There is no bad precedent there, it's literally just the government preventing child abuse. --- |
| Topic | Toddler dies as hospital and courts refused treatment options |
| legendary_zell 04/28/18 1:50:41 PM #65 | Sativa_Rose posted... legendary_zell posted...It isn't about money The money this is simply a way to highlight how pointless and counterproductive those actions would be. It's not the reason why they are pointless or a bad idea. The government wasn't making that decision. They were enforcing the decision of every rational actor that said it was time to stop and that continuing would be 100 percent negative and zero percent positive. Someone had to stop them from torturing their child out of misguided love. Parents should not have the ability to direct a doctor to keep harming you indefinitely and for no benefit, purely for their sake and with no prospect of improvement. You don't think it's torture but in fact it was, the kid was only experiencing seizures in life, that was it. Keeping someone alive for just that is torture, point blank, period. The government may have stopped them from leaving, but that was pursuant to the correct and humane decision that the child's doctors made. If a parent is commiting child abuse in one country, they shouldn't let you leave to another country to continue that abuse with the sanction of the other government if they know that's what you're trying to do. --- |
| Topic | Who created this "toxic masculinity" narrative? |
| legendary_zell 04/28/18 1:43:31 PM #15 | Toxic masculinity doesn't mean that all masculinity is toxic. It means that a specific level or expression of it is toxic. Even good traits can be toxic if they are expressed in the wrong way. This topic is made several times a week on this board and elsewhere on the internet. If you don't get it by now, I don't know what to tell ya. Incels are a pretty clear example of toxic masculinity. One element of a version of masculinity is to measure yourself through sexual conquests and desirability, they do that to such an extent that they take their lack of desirability as an identity and it warps them into hating women and more successful men. That's a toxic form of masculinity, hence toxic masculinity. It's what makes guys clown each other for being emotional and makes them bottle everything inside until they explode in anger or fall into depression. That's a trait associated with masculinity and it's def toxic....hence toxic masculinity. That's not attacking all men or disparaging masculinity as a concept. --- |
| Topic | Toddler dies as hospital and courts refused treatment options |
| legendary_zell 04/28/18 1:35:03 PM #50 | It isn't about money, it's about pointless, prolonged child torture. Why is that so hard to understand. It's not about "freedom" to spend more money and keep fighting and the big bad government telling you no. It's about you pointlessly moving your son who only experiences pain and seizures to another place that is not offering treatment, but only palliative care aka also end of life care. You're just prolonging misery at that point and it's absolutely immoral to do that and any rational actor can see that. Those rational actors must act to protect the suffering from irrational actors that just increase their suffering for no reason. The only reason you would not be able to see this is if you have a pathological aversion to "government" or anyone limiting your actions ever, even when you're 100000% in the wrong and everyone can see it. --- |
| Topic | HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for low-income people |
| legendary_zell 04/27/18 10:20:36 PM #77 | FLUFFYGERM posted... Alright well it's obviously pointless to try to reason with you legendary_zell, because you're now just spewing forth anecdotes about your own clients. You're completely unable to be objective or have a serious conversation that ever involves anything besides simply reaffirming leftism. So whatever, enjoy your echo chamber. I literally told you the class of people I'm talking about, told you how I calculated the number, told you the average amount of disability payments. Do you need me to post statistics to prove that people below the poverty line or on fixed incomes live paycheck to paycheck as well? You know the comments about my work experiences aren't central to that point. This isn't about leftism, it's about reality. And about the lottery tickets, it's perverse for someone to highlight lottery tickets, proof of financial illiteracy and economic hopelessness/wishful thinking to be a justification for raising people's rent. You argue in this bullheaded, disingenuous way regardless of what the subject is. It used to be religion, now it's your personal crusade against leftism and low rent. You have a fundamental problem in the way you think about complex subjects and the way you approach people. That is the reason people here track your alts so they don't get tricked into engaging, not your conservatism. --- |
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