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| Topic | HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for low-income people |
| legendary_zell 04/27/18 10:05:01 PM #68 | When the average monthly disability payment is $1197 per month, that is a big increase. Many people get less than that. Many of my clients got by on less than $800 a month. There are tens of millions of people who would be unnecessarily strained by this. Because that number is based on the number of people who receive disability, who work part time or low wage jobs, who don't work etc. Because it's something that shouldn't even be considered and is completely unjustified. Your point about the lottery tickets doesn't change that and just further highlights the lack of information and resources these people have, and yet you're still trying to justify raising their rent. --- |
| Topic | HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for low-income people |
| legendary_zell 04/27/18 9:45:58 PM #54 | Spooking posted... legendary_zell posted...Tens of millions. You, just like Proudclad are cutting out the vast majority of my post and instead parroting standard conservative rhetoric about makers and takers because you cannot actually respond to anything I've said. Do not quote me again until you address every point I made. --- |
| Topic | HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for low-income people |
| legendary_zell 04/27/18 9:43:39 PM #52 | FLUFFYGERM posted... legendary_zell posted...Tens of millions. Most poor people in my state for instance (Texas). They are having children for the exact reasons he listed, and because poor people generally have more children worldwide, and because people have children even in terrible situations because we are humans. It's not about "stupid decisions", it's about bad systems, at least not primarily. And again, you are so focused on moralizing, scolding, chastising, stigmatizing, these people that you continue to ignore three basic facts. 1) The children are alive already and have needs and will have to participate in society in the future 2) Not helping them is just crapping on them to hurt their parents and is cruel considering the structural factors that lead to their situations 3) Not helping them is just punching yourself in the face on a societal level So you're just gonna ignore everything else I said that refutes your arguments? While also ignoring my argument that none of this should be happening in the first place because it is completely unnecessary? There's lots of people living on SSI who only get 800-1000 a month total that they have to use to pay for all of their expenses. And that's for a household. A tripling of rent for those people is a calamity. And I'll continue to call you out for focusing on the children. It's an easy tactic to trigger our moral judgment and dogwhistle but it's not ultimately a rational reason to reduce housing subsidies even if every single on of those children shouldn't have been born. --- |
| Topic | HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for low-income people |
| legendary_zell 04/27/18 9:36:43 PM #41 | FLUFFYGERM posted... BloodyNate posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...If you really want to argue that they can't afford $150 a month because $50 a month is already too steep, you need to face the reality that your leftist policies in general are not working. Tens of millions. Most poor people in my state for instance (Texas). They are having children for the exact reasons he listed, and because poor people generally have more children worldwide, and because people have children even in terrible situations because we are humans. It's not about "stupid decisions", it's about bad systems, at least not primarily. And again, you are so focused on moralizing, scolding, chastising, stigmatizing, these people that you continue to ignore three basic facts. 1) The children are alive already and have needs and will have to participate in society in the future 2) Not helping them is just crapping on them to hurt their parents and is cruel considering the structural factors that lead to their situations 3) Not helping them is just punching yourself in the face on a societal level --- |
| Topic | HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for low-income people |
| legendary_zell 04/27/18 9:25:48 PM #30 | Spooking posted... BloodyNate posted...And what if you have children (as most of these families do). Well the kids already exist. Taking their housing isn't gonna help anyone and it's not gonna restore any lost "dignity". Moralizing about not having kids won't remove those kids from existence or make them not need a roof over their head and food in their mouth. It would be even more unfair if we just left these kids to rot and society would be far worse off. Just take any job that has you constantly dealing with truly poor people and government services and you'll immediately recognize that services like housing are making everyone better off because they are keeping people from living in absolute despair and chaos. Take that away and our society goes to hell pretty much immediately, that's just a fact. As a human being, if they do not have food, they are coming for your food. If they don't have a house, they are coming for your money to get a house. That's just human nature. --- |
| Topic | HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for low-income people |
| legendary_zell 04/27/18 9:18:44 PM #23 | Furthermore, why is this necessary at all? Why is this being suggested? What constituency asked for this? What expert recommended this? --- |
| Topic | HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for low-income people |
| legendary_zell 04/27/18 9:16:14 PM #19 | It may not be a lot to you guys but it's a lot to the people who have been budgeting based on the existing amount, people with fixed incomes, disabilities, people with large families or low wage jobs. This will cause some people to go without necessities. I worked at a legal aid organization for several months and part of my job was to account for the income and expenses of indigent clients. Many, if not most of them were using public housing. The housing costs so little because that's what they can freaking afford, more would be an undue burden. It is expensive just to keep a roof over your head in this country, and utterly impossible for many at market rates. These people are truly barely making it month to month and a tripling of rent because of Carson's incompetence, classism, lack of knowledge, an warped sense of "equality" is taking money out of these people's utility bills, their insurance, their kids school clothes, you name it. --- |
| Topic | I am literally excess human garbage and my current fate proves it. |
| legendary_zell 04/27/18 8:19:32 PM #10 | You are not garbage or excess in any sense of the word. You are a human being with a ton of life to live and a ton of intrinsic worth. Do you have a criminal record or some type of social issue that is preventing you from being hired? --- |
| Topic | Fox & Friends Shuts Down Trump Interview as He Begins Ranting About Mueller |
| legendary_zell 04/26/18 7:37:19 PM #149 | That was much worse than I thought. That was actually a straight up old man rant that made people on his side visibly uncomfortable. If you attempt to defend or downplay this, you lose all credibility. The only question is how bad it was an how abnormal it was, not whether it was bad or abnormal. --- |
| Topic | Fox & Friends Shuts Down Trump Interview as He Begins Ranting About Mueller |
| legendary_zell 04/26/18 5:22:13 PM #92 | HylianFox posted... legendary_zell posted...This is the guy who's gonna MAGA. Next they'll take a page out of Solomon Grundy's playbook and just say "America Great" --- |
| Topic | Fox & Friends Shuts Down Trump Interview as He Begins Ranting About Mueller |
| legendary_zell 04/26/18 5:16:39 PM #89 | This is the God Emperor so many people lionize. This is the guy who's gonna MAGA. I feel so safe. --- |
| Topic | BREAKING: Bill Cosby found GUILTY on all 3 counts in retrial |
| legendary_zell 04/26/18 2:28:38 PM #37 | How does that absolve him of putting tranquilizers in her drink and then raping her while she is under the influence of those drugs? I don't know where you're getting your information from, but the jury heard far more and heard these victim blaming arguments as well and they convicted on all counts. --- |
| Topic | Steven Crowder asks people to prove "male privilege." |
| legendary_zell 04/25/18 11:41:35 PM #12 | Pepys Monster posted... Mr_Karate_II posted...The dude seems like a massive douche. Conservatives don't seem to understand that being "respectful" and saying things you agree with doesn't change the fact that the speaker's ideas are laughable and abhorrent. That fixation on tone is how we get to people defending Milo when people get angry at him for outing trans students etc. --- |
| Topic | Steven Crowder asks people to prove "male privilege." |
| legendary_zell 04/25/18 11:19:04 PM #7 | Having this video in your recommendations, getting it from a feed, searching for it, clicking it, and sharing it are all extremely embarrassing. --- |
| Topic | Minnie Mouse knocks on your door, says Mickey is out of town. |
| legendary_zell 04/25/18 9:25:59 PM #8 | Mickey is a keyblade master, I'm not doing anything to piss him off. --- |
| Topic | This is the worst timeline |
| legendary_zell 04/25/18 8:21:19 PM #62 | Capn Circus posted... legendary_zell posted...It's amazing how conservatives lionize any black conservative while crapping on all other black people. It's almost like they're a shield, or dare I say, a token. Most of them are off the deep end or self hating and the few that aren't don't get attacked nearly as much. Futhermore, Kanye isn't just supporting tax cuts or something, he's going MAGA which is anathema to the vast majority of black people for obvious reasons. No one is attacking his ability to say what he wants or think what he wants. He is not currently in a gulag and no one has suggested that he be taken to one. He has absolute freedom to say what he wants and others have freedom to react to his statements, to tell him what they think of them, and to discuss why they think he is saying those things. That's freedom of speech and that's the marketplace of ideas. You can't just expect to talk about controversial subjects and have people just nod in silence or all agree wit you. You can't expect people not to think you're dumb and voice that. But somewhere along the way a huge portion of society got the idea that they have the right to say offensive or controversial things and hear nothing but support in return and anything else is illegitimate. --- |
| Topic | Trump's Vet Affairs nomination (and doctor) in serious hot water |
| legendary_zell 04/25/18 7:40:30 PM #26 | Warrior_Man posted... SomeonesAlt posted...The Great Muta 22 posted...This dude knows he was hired under Dubya, right? Maybe there is a different level of scrutiny and concern now that he's been picked to lead the 2nd biggest federal agency with tons of issues and lives on the line? Furthermore, who would want to dredge all this up because he said the President is healthy? No one really cared all that much, even at the time, it was just funny and suspicious to most people. This is far more serious, so real vetting comes into play. People didn't wanna destroy him before, but not bringing this up now would be dangerously negligent, so here we are. But actually, I'm sure you're right, it's probably a huge anti-Trump conspiracy. --- |
| Topic | This is the worst timeline |
| legendary_zell 04/25/18 7:36:05 PM #59 | It's amazing how conservatives lionize any black conservative while crapping on all other black people. It's almost like they're a shield, or dare I say, a token. Most of them are off the deep end or self hating and the few that aren't don't get attacked nearly as much. Futhermore, Kanye isn't just supporting tax cuts or something, he's going MAGA which is anathema to the vast majority of black people for obvious reasons. A black liberal celebrity is privileged and has no idea about politics and should go back to rapping/football/basketball etc. A black conservative is stunning and brave and a clear thinker who should be taken seriously and used as a weapon against the libs and other black people. --- |
| Topic | Trip to the ER not covered at all, I owe $1160 |
| legendary_zell 04/24/18 9:26:44 PM #97 | FLUFFYGERM posted... legendary_zell posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...if TC's income was average or less they'd have even waived the costs depending on the state he's in His level of compensation even coming into the picture at this level is evidence of how broken the system is. It shouldn't be anywhere near a deductible. I wouldn't laugh nearly regardless of how much he made because he shouldn't be paying $1500 for that, period. His costs are the problem, both in terms of the fact that our prices are opaque and incredibly inflated, and the fact that he is expected to pay out of pocket for something we could cover with taxes like a rational 1st world country. --- |
| Topic | Trip to the ER not covered at all, I owe $1160 |
| legendary_zell 04/24/18 7:17:37 PM #78 | FLUFFYGERM posted... if TC's income was average or less they'd have even waived the costs depending on the state he's in Why are you attacking the OP in a bid to ignore the fact that the system is clearly messed up? The services he got simply should not cost that much overall and should not have cost him that much. There's proven better ways to do it, but you are focused on attacking the victim of a broken mess. --- |
| Topic | My neighbors from hell? Turns out the government is subsidizing their rent. |
| legendary_zell 04/24/18 7:11:01 PM #74 | cuttin_in_farm posted... COVxy posted...cuttin_in_farm posted... It's laughable that that's your example because that's also an empirical claim that you answered with anecdotal evidence while trying to deny that you were answering the question at all. Just own your crappy, unfounded opinions and stereotyping and we can move on. --- |
| Topic | Booker on the Trump election: [black people] did it to ourselves |
| legendary_zell 04/23/18 5:34:53 PM #10 | Balrog0 posted... legendary_zell posted...Lmao, I literally said "but Hillary", I have become what I hate. It's still true though Yeah, it's tough. It's not like he's completely off base. But as a senate level politician with potential presidential hopes, you have to know how this will play, especially among black people and the left wing of the democrats. The two groups who he needs the most and who already distrust him the most. --- |
| Topic | Booker on the Trump election: [black people] did it to ourselves |
| legendary_zell 04/23/18 5:31:21 PM #6 | Yes, we should have voted. Yes, we had the most to lose. But Hillary didn't offer a vision that makes marginal voters feel she was their candidate and that things would change if they did go vote. That's on her and the democrats as a whole. Lmao, I literally said "but Hillary", I have become what I hate. It's still true though --- |
| Topic | Neo-Nazis hold swastika burning in west Georgia town |
| legendary_zell 04/23/18 5:07:48 PM #86 | Questionmarktarius posted... Bloodychess posted...I'm sure the irony is lost on them Wtf kind of false equivalence is this? How have the people protesting cross burners become cross burners because they wear masks? The problem with the nazis and kkk was their system of racialized oppression, violence, and fear? When have these protesters done anything like that? This is why same things both sides is so dangerous. --- |
| Topic | What's the best thing about the city/town/area in which you live? |
| legendary_zell 04/22/18 4:29:17 PM #8 | |
| Topic | America has never been fatter and there has never been more fitness tech |
| legendary_zell 04/22/18 3:53:52 PM #14 | Cultural factors are always more important than mushy individual factors like "willpower". We have food and exercise culture that doesn't lead to health. Willpower and exercise machines aren't going to help with that permanently unless it's enough to basically separate from the culture that caused the problem in the first place. And that's pretty hard to do. Permanent weight loss isn't actually about calories in or calories out, it's about a lifestyle change. And that's why the best way to maintain a healthy weight is to never get fat in the first place, because if you do, you have already built the habits that lead to obesity and it's gonna be a lifelong struggle to unlearn them. --- |
| Topic | Full D&D Character Alignment Test |
| legendary_zell 04/22/18 1:19:49 PM #51 | Neutral Good Elf Monk/Sorcerer (2nd/1st Level) Ability Scores: Strength- 13 Dexterity- 14 Constitution- 13 Intelligence- 16 Wisdom- 13 Charisma- 13 Not surprised. --- |
| Topic | C/D: Some people deserve to die without due process. |
| legendary_zell 04/22/18 1:01:14 PM #14 | It's due process. It's the process that everyone is due. We do it because everyone deserves it and our punishments become tainted or even equivalent to lynchings without it. Even if suspect X did kill that woman, it's still a lynching if you round him up and summarily execute him in the public square. --- |
| Topic | How much in student loans do u have to pay |
| legendary_zell 04/21/18 12:18:16 PM #5 | |
| Topic | Do you agree with Mike Rowe that people don't value work enough? |
| legendary_zell 04/21/18 11:24:01 AM #15 | I think most people value hard work quite highly and put it into practice. In fact I think people value it too much and think it has magical qualities. To the point where if someone is not successful by their standards, they must not have worked hard enough or thinking that people are poor because they don't work hard. --- |
| Topic | Ted Cruz writes piece praising Trump in Time 100 |
| legendary_zell 04/20/18 5:49:14 PM #12 | I hope Beto takes this guy out Doug Jones style. This is just embarrassing and will likely make good campaign material. --- |
| Topic | Fraternity suspended for oath "Fuck black people, jews, and hispanics" |
| legendary_zell 04/19/18 8:49:59 PM #63 | |
| Topic | Quebec mosque shooter was motivated by Trudeau refugee policy |
| legendary_zell 04/18/18 10:39:41 PM #18 | Bloodychess posted... This board changes its tune so easily Right wingers are the ones who say not to politicize a tragedy constantly. Left wingers likely said that you shouldn't indulge in stereotypes against undocumented people based on the actions of one guy or that "illegals" commit less crime than native born Americans. And before you say it, identifying a trend of Islamaphobia is not the same as using a murder to push anti-immigrant policy. --- |
| Topic | Sacramento police waited to call for help after shooting Stephon Clark because |
| legendary_zell 04/18/18 1:31:08 PM #34 | VectorChaos posted... TheVipaGTS posted...VectorChaos posted...The reality is you'd probably shit yourself and empty the magazine. This is just BS. Cops seem to handle things just fine in other countries and in certain parts of the US. The issue here is that cops are protected by other officers, by the law, and by people who think this way. They have a mindset of being under siege and constant threat and know that they will face no consequences if they act on base impulses. That's the difference between here and elsewhere and between life and death for citizens. --- |
| Topic | Have smartphones/social media disrupted socialization? |
| legendary_zell 04/18/18 12:31:34 AM #69 | I think the effect is exaggerated to some extent. However, I believe research shows that there is a higher rate of anxiety, depression, and negative social comparisons related to smartphones and social media. --- |
| Topic | Want to see what $9,000 looks like? |
| legendary_zell 04/17/18 9:55:19 PM #116 | Makeveli_lives posted... SF_Okami posted...For real tho use that money to get rid of those dad newbalence. If you like the dad shoe look get a blush. You don't have to spend a lot to look good. It's more about fit and style. You could easily look like a model while wearing nothing that cost more than 40 bucks. And looking well put together has countless positive benefits for your life. People take you more seriously, view you as more competent, and you can get a 1 to 3/10 boost to your attractiveness rating. It's not useless and it does matter. --- |
| Topic | Your boy just passed the Florida Bar Exam! |
| legendary_zell 04/16/18 7:43:53 PM #9 | |
| Topic | Are seagulls the biggest assholes of the animal kingdom? |
| legendary_zell 04/16/18 12:51:19 AM #12 | No, it's those parasites that take control of an animal and force it into essentially suicidal situations like that one that makes rats play around in cat urine so they can get killed by cats and spread the parasite. All the while taking up nutrients and causing pain. Gulls are probably second though, they stole my Doritos as a kid. --- |
| Topic | I need gas but it's fucking $123.9/L right now |
| legendary_zell 04/15/18 12:28:24 PM #15 | Are you in Venezuela or something? You must be somewhere experiencing a societal collapse. If you meet a guy named Max out there in the desert, make sure to stick with him. --- |
| Topic | Black people arrested for waiting for their party at Starbucks |
| legendary_zell 04/14/18 4:31:16 PM #290 | It's amazing that so many people's world views demand that any brown person who has a negative interaction with a business, police, or authority figure MUST have done something to deserve it. This belief is indestructible and powerful enough to warp reality,turning two people into a large group, making calm stockbrokers into angry black men who were clearly loud and fnghting the police. It has the power to erase people from existence too, like the friend who they were waiting for who actually showed up. It's amazing, simply amazing. --- |
| Topic | Ex-Speaker Boehner joins board of marijuana firm, says his views have 'evolved' |
| legendary_zell 04/11/18 7:23:12 PM #9 | Antifar posted... There are people in jail for marijuana-related charges based on policies Boehner probably championed while in power This, but a late, hypocritical change is better than being like Jeff Sessions. At least we can take it as another piece of evidence that the marijuana train has slowly left the station and there's no stopping it. --- |
| Topic | Breaking: House Speaker Paul Ryan will not seek re-election in November |
| legendary_zell 04/11/18 10:32:02 AM #20 | He already looted the house and got his tax cuts. I'm sure his only regret is that he couldn't privatize SS or block grant Medicaid. He can ride off into the sunset and a lucrative position somewhere. He's absolutely the worst of Washington. He's smart enough and sane enough to know what's crazy or a bad idea and yet supported craziness or bad ideas just for the opportunity to cut taxes and regulations for the rich. Good riddance. --- |
| Topic | immigrant privlage? |
| legendary_zell 04/11/18 12:06:44 AM #2 | School lunches count? Almost everyone got that where I'm from, including me. And it's not hard to qualify for foodstamps either, I damn near qualified last year and I was working full time. Especially when you have children. Take those out and I wonder what the stats are. Since I'm sure the vast majority of these people are from working families, this just means they're poor. Furthermore that is a study from CIS which has been designated a hate group and they are complaining about legal immigration here, not legal immigration. which would have certainly kept people like me out. I'm now a public interest lawyer that protects you and everyone else. They certainly aren't mentioning the benefits of immigrants, they are using misleading and incomplete statistics to say what we already know, people who just came here are often not rich. Just some food for thought. --- |
| Topic | Illinois Senate legislation would include LGBT history in schools |
| legendary_zell 04/10/18 11:17:45 PM #12 | Why wouldn't we teach parts of history? We actively excluded it up until very recently, why are people making snide remarks about the budget when people try to fix it? --- |
| Topic | how are you supposed to drive a U-Haul truck?! |
| legendary_zell 04/10/18 1:49:33 PM #4 | They suck horribly, but you just have to be incredibly careful. And get the insurance if you have the money. --- |
| Topic | raising canes: bland chicken, shit sauce, bad sides. Why do people like it? |
| legendary_zell 04/05/18 11:04:09 PM #3 | I just had it. It really does come down to the sauce, without that it's pretty bad. And yeah, the toast is the only thing that is independently good. --- |
| Topic | Are there any games that give you motion sickness? |
| legendary_zell 04/01/18 8:45:38 AM #4 | I simply can't play the Spyro games. Even thinking about it years later makes me nauseous. I had the same experience with Kingsley's Adventure, so basically early 3D games --- |
| Topic | Israel uses live ammunition to clear Palestinian protesters, killing 10 |
| legendary_zell 03/31/18 12:19:58 AM #95 | smoliske posted... legendary_zell posted...How does announcing the fact that you are going to commit an atrocity make it less of an atrocity? It's actually ridiculous that so many of you are taking that route to defend this. Firing indiscriminately into a crowd when there's lots of things to protest is indefensible, point blank period. This will only continue the cycle of violence. Hamas are horrible and needs to lose power, but shooting into crowds is quite terrible as well. Defending borders that are constantly growing illegally isn't a reason for this either. Just as a matter of human rights, this is wrong no matter who is doing it to who. --- |
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