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Zero_Destroyer posted...

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Education is only expensive if you delay it and try to make yourself relevant after stagnating. If you keep up with your certifications and the latest and greatest in your industry, you'll always have good work.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/paying-for-college/articles/2017-09-20/see-20-years-of-tuition-growth-at-national-universities

none of that refutes what i said. stop conflating education with college and stop letting the government guarantee tuition. then the cost of college will decline.

learning new skills is a lifelong activity that extends far beyond undergrad.
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how did a socialist lunatic like her gain any influence or win any elections?
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wait so is this actually fake news or are ppl shitposting?
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Is it gonna be a boring game though? Like, is there anything to do in the game? A story or loot system or crafting system that makes the exploration worth doing? Or is the whole premise that the game is good to look at therefore go explore?
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http://www.baldingsworld.com/2018/07/17/balding-out/

Conversely, China is a rising power but probably more importantly is a deeply illiberal, expansionist, authoritarian, police state opposed to human rights, democracy, free trade, and rule of law. Just as we need to consider the state, speed, and direction of change in the United States, China has been deeply illiberal authoritarian for many years, is becoming increasingly illiberal, and is accelerating the pace of change towards greater control. It both puzzles and concerns me having lived in China for nearly a decade as a public employee to hear Polyanna statements from China experts in the United States who talk about the opening and reform of China or refuse to consider the values being promoted. I was left mouth agape once when someone I would consider a liberal internationalist who values human rights informed me he was focused on business and would leave those other issues aside. The values represented by China cannot be divorced from its rise and influence.

The rise of China represents a clear and explicit threat not to the United States but to the entirety of liberal democracy, human rights, and open international markets. We see the world slowly being divided into China supported authoritarian regimes of various stripes that support its creeping illiberalism across a range of areas. The tragedy of modern American foreign policy is the history of active ignorance and refusal to actively confront the Chinese norm or legal violations. The Trump administration is utterly incapable of defending the values and assembling the coalition that would respond to American leadership as they face even greater threats from China.

The concern is not over Chinese access to technology to facilitate economic development for a liberal open state. The concern is over the use of technology to facilitate human rights violations and further cement closed markets. That is a threat for which neither the United States or any other democracy loving country should apologize for.

I should note that I like many other am concerned about the level of government surveillance on citizenry. However, equating Beijing to Washington in many of these specific issues is simply non-sensical authoritarian apologetics. Let me just briefly run through some of the enormous differences. First, some have argued tech firms gather data which is true but does not distinguish what happens to the data. Unlike China, the US government does not have free access to all electronic data. Second, China uses control over electronic communication in vastly draconian cyber dystopia ways compared to the wide range of opinions that are allowed online in the rest of the world. By simple comparison, Winnie the Pooh is censored in China while in the United States the debate is over whether some information should be restricted that is deemed inaccurate. It is nothing less than authoritarian apologetics to attempt to equate the two in any serious manner.

Scary shit.
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gonna buy it when it's out for xbox
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Education is only expensive if you delay it and try to make yourself relevant after stagnating. If you keep up with your certifications and the latest and greatest in your industry, you'll always have good work.
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the left is cannibalizing itself once again
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Life in prison.
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bump for great justice and great optimism
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frozenshock posted...

Seriously, allowing Cubans access to the internet is a horrible idea. It's going expose them to harmful anti-communist propaganda.

Harmful propaganda? You mean enlightening truth. Freedom from the mental shackles forcibly imposed by Marxists for generations.
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So in other words, we can expect more literal communists to pollute the internet in the coming years. All because the indoctrinated middle schoolers in Cuba will finally have 3G access while the civilized world has moved on to 5G.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cuba-internet/communist-run-cuba-starts-rolling-out-internet-on-mobile-phones-idUSKBN1K62U7

Communist-run Cuba has started providing internet on the mobile phones of select users as it aims to roll out the service nationwide by year-end, in a further step toward opening one of the Western Hemispheres least connected countries.

Journalists at state-run news outlets were among the first this year to get mobile internet, provided by Cubas telecoms monopoly, as part of a wider campaign for greater internet access that new President Miguel Diaz-Canel has said should boost the economy and help Cubans defend their revolution.

Analysts said broader web access will also ultimately weaken the governments control of what information reaches people in the one-party island state that has a monopoly on the media. Cuba frowns on public dissent and blocks access to dissident websites.

Its been a radical change, said Yuris Norido, 39, who reports for several state-run news websites and the television. I can now update on the news from wherever I am, including where the news is taking place.

Certain customers, including companies and embassies, have also been able to buy mobile data plans since December, according to the website of Cuban telecoms monopoly ETECSA, which has not broadly publicized the move.

ETECSA has said it will expand mobile internet to all its 5 million mobile phone customers, nearly half of Cubas population, by the end of this year. ETECSA did not reply to a request for more details for this story.

Whether because of a lack of cash, a long-running U.S. trade embargo or concerns about the flow of information, Cuba has lagged behind in web access. Until 2013, internet was largely only available to the public at tourist hotels in Cuba.

But the government has since then made increasing connectivity a priority, introducing cybercafes and outdoor Wi-Fi hotspots and slowly starting to hook up homes to the web.

Long before he took office from Raul Castro in April, 58-year-old Diaz-Canel championed the cause.

We need to be able to put the content of the revolution online, he told parliament last July as vice president, adding that Cubans could thus counter the avalanche of pseudo-cultural, banal and vulgar content.

Cuba could use subsidies to encourage the use of government-sponsored applications, analysts said. Last month, ETECSA launched a free Cuba-only messaging application, Todus, while Cubas own intranet with a handful of government-approved sites and email is much cheaper to access than the wider internet.

In a 2015 document about its internet strategy that leaked, the Cuban government said it aimed to connect at least half of homes by 2020 and 60 percent of phones.

But many Cubans are skeptical. ETECSA President Mayra Arevich told state-run media in December it had connected just 11,000 homes last year.

Ive been many times to the ETECSA shop to ask if they can give us home access, said Yuneisy Galindo, 28, at a Wi-Fi hotspot on one of Havanas thoroughfares. But they tell us they still arent ready and will call us.

Most mobile phone owners have smartphones, although Cuba is only now installing 3G technology, even as most of Latin America has moved onto 4G, with 5G in its final testing phase.

This rollout will expand slowly at first and then more quickly, if the government is increasingly confident that it can control any political fallout, said Cuba expert Ted Henken at Baruch College in the United States.

The price could prove the biggest restriction for many, though. Hotspots currently charge $1 an hour, compared with an average state monthly wage of $30.

Cuba is barely entering the year 2006.
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http://nautil.us/issue/28/2050/the-philosopher-who-says-we-should-play-god

Interesting read. He studied under Peter Singer, so if you like anything Peter Singer has to say you might be interested in this piece.
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please pick one and never come back
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Godnorgosh posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Godnorgosh posted...

I'm referring to the people displaced by automation, genius.

lmfao which people exactly? surely you have evidence to give alongside this blabbering.

you realize that automation isn't going to happen overnight right?

And when it does happen, what do you suggest accountants, pharmacists, technical writers, truck drivers, etc. do to sustain themselves?

How do you think automation will affect those people and on what timeline? And what is the evidence?
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nicklebro posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

why did this need a second topic brother

It needed it's own topic apparently.

why brother
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Godnorgosh posted...

I'm referring to the people displaced by automation, genius.

lmfao which people exactly? surely you have evidence to give alongside this blabbering.

you realize that automation isn't going to happen overnight right?
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Tyranthraxus posted...

jumi posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

Al claims he created the internet Gore.

He never said that.

Al "I never claimed we created the internet" Gore

More blood on Bush's hands
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Godnorgosh posted...

Yeah, it's great when things are cheap but you still have no way to pay for them.

This blind fixation on the subset of the population that is rapidly growing smaller with each passing decade is evidence of religious indoctrination.

There can't be any other explanation for why someone would let the perfect be the enemy of the great.

> "Abject poverty in Bangladesh is disappearing at breakneck speeds because people are starting businesses, because the solar panel installation rate there is the highest in the world, etc etc (bunch of other facts)" - reasonable empiricist

> "B-b-b-b-but da ppl who still can't buy anything!!!!1!1!1 We need MARX to save da poor!!!1!1!1!1!1" - Marxist
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Is this the part where Godnorgosh collapses and does an Antifar by quoting just snippets he feels are safe to quote? lmao
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What on God's green earth are you blabbering on about now, Godnorgosh?

It literally does not matter if someone leverages automation to accumulate profit/capital. What matters is that the marginal cost of doing business decreases. Which means that prices can and will decrease. So the consumer gets the same or better standard of living for a reduced cost over time.

That is literally the legacy of capitalism over the last 150 years, and it's a wonderful legacy to look at and to endorse.

You're no different than the Luddites that would've complained about washing machines supplanting the people who washed clothes manually for a living back when washing clothes took someone 11 hours per week on average.
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Asherlee10 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

nicklebro posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

It seems that both camps hold a belief based on no evidence except for their feelings. It seems like a silly position. If something is unknowable, then why have a belief about it? Just leave it in the 'unknowable' bucket.

That's not how anything works. You don't know the big bang happened, but I assume you believe it. There's tons of stuff you just can't know but believe anyways because there's sufficient evidence to convince you. Plus, you don't actually choose what you believe, it's not actually up to you.

I don't think the big bang is unknowable. We have a lot of evidence for the theory which puts it in the 'beyond reasonable doubt" bucket.

If there is sufficient evidence for something, then it isn't unknowable. I'm not sure what you mean by that.

you cannot prove that you are not a brain in a jar somewhere, merely hallucinating your current life / other people / the universe. so there is a sense in which you cannot know those things, whereas you can know things like "i think therefore i am"

I don't need to prove I'm not a brain in a jar because it isn't a belief I hold.

Further, I am not saying that there are not 'unknowable' concepts in the universe. I'm saying that I take issue with the terminologies agnostic atheist and agnostic theist.

Last, if you want to dig deeper into Descartes "I think; therefore I am"- it is not really a sound argument. It's important because it's part of the history of philosophy, but really no further than that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum#Critique

you misunderstood. you cannot prove to yourself that you are not a brain in a jar. you have no way of "knowing" that we exist and that we aren't just figments of your imagination like in the matrix. that is the crux of the position.

and regardless of what nonsense other philosophers said to be edgy or to try to get some fame, Descartes' I think Therefore I Am is bulletproof. sorry not sorry.
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why did this need a second topic brother
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Marxists are not even intelligible on matters of technology. And they couldn't be, being that the entirety of your belief system is based on a deprecated economic model from the 1800s.

There was no revolution and there won't ever be a revolution. There can't be. There's no reason for one to happen. Twenty years ago, only the elite and the powerful had access to supercomputing. Now, anyone can read about supercomputing for free online and then spin up supercomputing clusters within minutes for virtually no cost thanks to services like AWS and Azure and Google Cloud and Digital Ocean and etc.

Renewable energy is more affordable than ever and the costs will just keep plummeting. The same is true of electric and autonomous vehicles. And the future innovations in healthcare. Every trend we see is that technology is expanding access and reducing costs at a break neck speed sans any bloody revolution or "worker control of technology." This "worker control" maxim is just religious dogma that you've heard so many times that it begins to feel right. Like when the preacher says shit about how people are inherently sinful because of Original Sin.

It is delusional and dishonest to peddle the Marxist beliefs you have in 2018, and to insist that when people spank those beliefs they're just tearing down strawpeople.
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Those are some substantial levels of reach. It's pretty pathetic, dude. Sorry but like I said, anyone who is reasonable can just look at the video themselves. It's not a secret that there are Marxists like the ones I described in post #10. You can obfuscate until tomorrow, but you're still going to have to accept the L sooner or later.
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I don't know if I've ever seen a more perfect creature.

My meat immediately got as long and as hard as that 6 foot blade she's wielding. It's been years since I've felt so young and vigorous.
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Hmmm......bep beep bep bep?
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Asherlee10 posted...

nicklebro posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

It seems that both camps hold a belief based on no evidence except for their feelings. It seems like a silly position. If something is unknowable, then why have a belief about it? Just leave it in the 'unknowable' bucket.

That's not how anything works. You don't know the big bang happened, but I assume you believe it. There's tons of stuff you just can't know but believe anyways because there's sufficient evidence to convince you. Plus, you don't actually choose what you believe, it's not actually up to you.

I don't think the big bang is unknowable. We have a lot of evidence for the theory which puts it in the 'beyond reasonable doubt" bucket.

If there is sufficient evidence for something, then it isn't unknowable. I'm not sure what you mean by that.

you cannot prove that you are not a brain in a jar somewhere, merely hallucinating your current life / other people / the universe. so there is a sense in which you cannot know those things, whereas you can know things like "i think therefore i am"
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Hahaha man that entire topic was so hilarious.

Ahhhhh. I can't wait until Godnorgosh gets a well-paying job once he gets his networking certifications. Then he'll start to realize how delusional Marxism makes 21st century people.
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dib153 posted...

This one?

hooooooooooly fuck.....
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Vita_Aeterna posted...

I thought it was incredibly mediocre but then again, I've never watched a fan film that's good lol.

tagged
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nicklebro posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest.

So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it?

Words have meanings, and that's important, so no it isn't meaningless.

your response is literally "it's meaningful because it's meaningful"
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Godnorgosh posted...

I just called you out for being wrong about the content of the video, and now you're deflecting and vaguely claiming I ignored some nondescript evidence. Good job!

In that entire topic, you were making claims which were factually incorrect. You would ignore the evidence that was provided and you kept posting bullshit. You actually even posted a link that you thought agreed with you but that agreed with me instead lmao.
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Godnorgosh posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Godnorgosh posted...

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@Godnorgosh posted...

I know literally zero Marxists who advocate reverting to a subsistence-based way of life.

Yeah you do. You once tried to peddle that horse shit to @RebelElite791, linking to someone who basically said exactly what I said in my post.

https://imgur.com/a/okY1u5M

What does the relationship between veganism and capitalism have to do with primitivism? Abstaining from meat products and living in an agrarian society are not the same things. But there's no problem with admitting that you didn't actually watch or understand the video tho

I did watch the video, and actually that exact topic came to mind as I was typing my response to bevan. Just take the L brother, at least have some respect to not doubt whether or not I was able to endure that horse shit video. Her views are really close to what I described in post #10.

The video is about the ideological incompatibility of veganism and capitalism, and you're welcome to disagree with that claim, but it's not a video advocating primitive communism. So no, you take the L.

She's a literal communist (as evidenced by that video and other videos she has) and she does in fact espouse the things I said in post #10. Example at 6 minutes and 30 seconds in, seen here:



You're trying really hard to obfuscate but anyone who cares can just go look at the video themselves and see for themselves.
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Godnorgosh posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

@Godnorgosh posted...

I know literally zero Marxists who advocate reverting to a subsistence-based way of life.

Yeah you do. You once tried to peddle that horse shit to @RebelElite791, linking to someone who basically said exactly what I said in my post.

https://imgur.com/a/okY1u5M

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You also admitted not having watched the video in that topic, and are now assuming (falsely) that it was about primitivism.

Actually, you and averagejoel were the only ones in that topic who ignored real evidence. Rebel tried to reason with you and he was around for the detailed discussion on the specific claims in the video you shared.
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Godnorgosh posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

@Godnorgosh posted...

I know literally zero Marxists who advocate reverting to a subsistence-based way of life.

Yeah you do. You once tried to peddle that horse shit to @RebelElite791, linking to someone who basically said exactly what I said in my post.

https://imgur.com/a/okY1u5M

What does the relationship between veganism and capitalism have to do with primitivism? Abstaining from meat products and living in an agrarian society are not the same things. But there's no problem with admitting that you didn't actually watch or understand the video tho

I did watch the video, and actually that exact topic came to mind as I was typing my response to bevan. Just take the L brother, at least have some respect to not doubt whether or not I was able to endure that horse shit video. Her views are really close to what I described in post #10.
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Godnorgosh posted...

nicklebro posted...

Godnorgosh posted...

I know literally zero Marxists who advocate reverting to a subsistence-based way of life.

Well that proves they don't exist then.

It's not that self-avowed Marxists who advocate primitivism don't exist. It's just that they're not significant. Marx and Engels acknowledged primitive communism, of course, but recognized that their communism is the communism that follows the capitalist mode of production, not what came before it.

Translation - "Waffle waffle, Marx Marx, they're not significant to me when it'd be inconvenient to my narrative, therefore they're not significant waffle Marx waffle Marx"
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@Godnorgosh posted...

I know literally zero Marxists who advocate reverting to a subsistence-based way of life.

Yeah you do. You once tried to peddle that horse shit to @RebelElite791, linking to someone who basically said exactly what I said in my post.

https://imgur.com/a/okY1u5M
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southcoast09 posted...

Does this guy still believe all that climate change crap?

Only a clown would argue that there is no side effect to filling the atmosphere with chemicals and emissions/byproducts of burning fossil fuel.
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bevan306 posted...

what does this have to do with communism

I mean I know you're joking, but it does relate to communism!

Some Marxists have been advocating that we deindustrialize and go back to an agricultural way of life in order to save the planet from global warming. They insist that nothing can be done, that it is too late to change our ways, that technology won't save us, etc, and that the ONLY way for us to survive as a species is to stop burning any carbon NOW and to live simpler "happier" lives.

In reality, they are completely wrong (as usual). The technology will save us and there is a clearly defined path to success. That path doesn't necessitate deinustrialization and going back to a deprecated agricultural model of living.

The real reason Marxists try to leverage global warming fear in this way is because they know that their economic model results in only one thing - deep poverty and rampant starvation. So instead of just admitting this and moving to a more informed 21st century economics model, they cling to their religion and hide behind global warming as an excuse for why implementing Marxism has to necessarily collapse our global economy into a subsistence-level existence. Rather than say "yeah, Marxism does necessarily entail that we commit to a far simpler and deprecated lifestyle" they just say "we have to do this because of global warming"
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Why is Doom_Art polluting this topic with shit about Trump?
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If the immensely positive news from this video doesn't make the hairs on your arms and butthole stand out, you should reevaluate whether or not you've been indoctrinated into a sort of religious negativity towards our chances of solving climate change.

The trends are overwhelmingly positive. Immense and vast swaths of private capital investment are flooding into the renewables sector as we type. Renewable energy is currently the "largest new business opportunity in the history of the world." And we've enormously surpassed the old projections for where we'd be with our adoption rate of renewable energy technology.

Mark my words, we will solve climate change in the next decade!
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Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest.

So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it?
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It's only homo if the balls touch
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nicklebro posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

atheism is obviously a religion

How?

damn, i thought that would rustle your jimmies.

it's not a religion
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atheism is obviously a religion
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Darkman124 posted...

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You can't take the sky from me...

this is the first thing that i could see eclipsing his portrayal of mal

he got the mannerisms of drake spot on

Indeed. I was shocked at how much he looked/acted like Drake. The shoot-out sequence was amazing and looked like the game except real life.
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