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Nanahara715 posted...

I thought deadline was 11 PM EST and day started early but that meant we got extra time?

I am on phone. Double check?
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Sir Chris

Uh did eaed really say 48 hours. Uh oh.
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Sir Chris

Wait.

Deadline isn't really in an hour
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Sir Chris

Dodgers I think are on the road so he will be here for deadline
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Sir Chris

Not to be too mean but Nana has failed to impress me once in games we have been in.

Alakazam is a really weird dude who I haven't seen be scum plum so not sure how he differs. This does seem like business as usual.
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Sir Chris

masterplum posted...

So alakazam is town then right

Reasoning? Also go find me another scum, vassal. So people stop accusing you of doing little.
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Sir Chris

Hi Blade. Nana hasn't done much true. I will be busy into like an hour before deadline (busy after too but I like deadlines so I am carving out time)
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Sir Chris

Also on phone.

Use the quote buttons buddy.
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Sir Chris

Fake that is a bit unreadable to me.
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Sir Chris

He is just focusing on an in depth re read.
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Sir Chris

Read the bottom line?
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Sir Chris

Nanahara715 posted...

Let's not forget that Alakazam wouldn't claim his actual role if he were Town power.

WELL

about that...
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Sir Chris

Here's a tip: don't flavor meta.
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Sir Chris

Rogue Noble is Leo, someone who is not in this game.

Hm, how do I feel about FD? I will say I have already answered that, so perhaps you should be paying attention to me more carefully. I liked FD's content and thought it was well done, not alignment confirming or anything (calm down there Mzero) but it was meaty and showed effort, which is sometimes in short supply. I think he may be misguided with Alakazam (Alakazam CAN be scum, but god I ca nsee every FD point coming from a town Alakazam too sadly)

Yeah long posts can for sure come from scum (see: me) so it is best to examine the content. Effort is not solely in the domain of town.
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Sir Chris

...

Dude went to sleep.

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After posting a lot of really good content.

Alakazam what are you doing.
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Sir Chris

Ah, you didn't get it - but that's alright.

The best thing you can do is to ask questions and challenge people on their opinions. You will note I have asked for perspective several times and that is because it makes people take stances. Stances which can be used for or against them as the game continues, depending on their answers. For example I didn't like who 5tarscream was going after but I liked his answers to my questions.
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Sir Chris

FakeAccount3000 posted...

Reading everything closely is a must I'd say. And I think I have another idea as well.

You don't have to keep me in suspense. What's the other idea?
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Sir Chris

Hey Fake, here's a perspective exercise. I promise I will answer your question in a straight forward manner, but first do this:

Look at my posts from last page. Assume I am a good player. What do you think I will say is an excellent thing to do to be useful for town day 1? Also, this post is a hint as well.
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Sir Chris

Here I thought I was setting up your mislynch at end of day today by claiming you are "different."
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Sir Chris

To expound: I don't think anything Sultan there did really took away from talking about Alakazam. He, unprompted, listed people he was stewing over and then followed up with someone to vote one of them. Now I agree with you that the reasoning isn't great but I think often times people mistake poor play for scum play. Sultan is actually showing some drive in figuring out the game and isn't floundering for suspects, which I tend to take away from newbie scum more than anything.

Alakazam what are your thoughts on the game at the moment? You seem as fluffy as cotton candy.
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Sir Chris

5tarscream posted...

I dont think Sultan has the experience to go after Tony on the back of you as the first scum vote on town.
I think he was simply trying to divert attention away from Zam AND he wanted to get some attention on Ashe and Tony was already leading that way.
I guess my read from that is Sultan and Zam scum. Ashe and Tony town.

Hm hm hm. I don't agree with the conclusion but I like the thought process here, feels genuine enough. Off you trot.
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Sir Chris

What is a bus answer?
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Sir Chris

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

5tarscream posted...

Because it isnt just asking for the opinion of someone that has already voted for Ashe and then agreeing with whatever they say. There is a chance another experienced player could offer more insight and potentially make a case for Ashe being town which isnt what he wanted. He wanted an excuse for a vote but didnt want the attention that it would have brought.

You are totally looking way to far into it but you wanna make a case for ashe as town go for it change my mind. I already said I narrowed it down and was going for one of them to begin with so before I picked ashe who I was going to vote anyways. I asked the other person who voted ashe why they did.

Why ask someone you were suspicious of?
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Sir Chris

First half is a good answer, but do you not think Sultan realizes that everyone reads the topic? I mean as scum there exists some combos here, so let me go with them.

Sultan/Tony are scum buddies. Sultan weirdly asks Tony for support
Sultan is scum, Tony is town - why not ask me, the guy who is voting Tony, for support in eating Tony?

See what I mean? Sultan listed Tony as suspect and if he wanted to he had someone with clout there to eat the poor guy if they are unaligned. So do you contend this was a scum/scum interaction?
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Sir Chris

I mean why would it be better if he asked one of those people? Wouldn't it just be hiding behind us then? Also he had already expressed, prior to asking Tony, a dislike for Ashe. Why does that not matter?
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Sir Chris

Wouldn't surprise me, he does that too.

Corrik I wouldn't say is a power house PER SE but he has gotten better at less dick more action.
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Sir Chris

You know if you were paying close attention you'd see that I do have a few in my town pile...!

I actually agree though - I have not liked how so much suspicion has fallen on Alakazam and Sultan early on because it feels mostly (FD calm down) lazy.

I never try to fly low, I just am trying to be relaxed. We all know I'll go hard at end of day, which I am not listening to you on again BY THE WAY and probably lynch scum. Until then no need to go super hard.
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Sir Chris

What was the list for if not to narrow down scum?
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Sir Chris

Alakazam if I like offered you private mafia lessons at some point after this game for a "reasonable fee" do you think you'd be down for that? Like, 8 hours of intense mafia training? I am just spitballing because you are one random ass dude.
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Sir Chris

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

After my rereading I have narrowed it down to a few people..

Ashe- ashe's responses to Tony and I think it was Corrik where very lacking they just seem to be avoiding what is going on and trying to fly under the radar rather then giving any actual response

Red- red was really quick to jump on the band wagon to vote out corrik and then really didn't anything to back it up or why he wanted to place the vote.

Tony- Tony and col zach are on opposite sides and it really showed in the banter and that I believe that zach is the one who is tow so that would leave Tony as the scumm

Corrik- kind of just a jerk and quick to want to make everyone claim but said he will never claim.

Why do you think a scum red would be quick to vote a scum Corrik?
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Sir Chris

Ah the old VI four pack huh? A fine move!

I don't really like Tony stretching on the sultan thing. I mean Zam said something about voting Corrik every game and it was a topic.of conversation for awhile, so it's no suprise Sultan made the deduction they've played together often. I feel like that was a really big reach. Don't really have a problem with the ColZach thing though.

Red is a little different than unusual but doesn't seem malicious. Town can try new things too, so I don't think him being unusual is a big deal right now

Ashe I don't really remember doing much in my quick read through

FD I give an A+ for effort. His walls were actually content filled and not fluff. Town

Mzero why do people give newer people credit which older people- okay whatever.

May I ask why the Zach thing doesn't bother you, specifically?

Fair on Red, not an original thought but what can you do.

Why did you feel the need to not look at Ashe when I requested?

What was your favorite point FD made?
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Sir Chris

I don't think I am pretending to NOT read a few lines and post thoughts on them. But in this specific case why would you even have the urge to call out Blade if you know his history. Like it's almost as if you want to be seen as being tough when really it makes more sense.
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Sir Chris

5tarscream posted...

Im currently trying to work out which out of Sultan and Zam are worse.

I mean at least Sultan can put some of his terrible posting and wording down to inexperience. Sam has been called in the same action by many new people and just basically seems to dismiss it.

It might not necessarily be scummy but it is terrible for town if youre not scum. You arent even trying to convince people of your worth to town. You havent offered an opinion or a valid reason.

@Alakazamtrainer can you give me any reason to not vote you?

Can you please summarize what you have contributed to the game for me? Thanks.
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Sir Chris

Corrik I don't feel clowned tbh. My poe was off due to your reckless claim history, dels being weird, and shad having a baby. I wish I saw through it better but my poe had mzero, leo, and death in it for a long time. It was a solid game.

Also I may have come out firing but then my gf got sick. Poor thing.

Also since when do you care about being a hypocrite? Or not know Blade is horrible day 1s (a fact even I have accepted)
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Sir Chris

Hi Sultan. Any thoughts on me, my latest cute kouhai?

*eyes narrow*

Because for someone who calls things useless you sure haven't done much, Sultan-kun. Even banter could help you get a read on corrik kn theory.
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Sir Chris

Corrik posted...

Why are we letting plum skate through today again?

I like being a double voter. Also plum isn't skating by that badly.

Plum he is fairly new and um... has had some "epic" town moments.
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Sir Chris

I have opinions about that vote FD, which you can likely guess just by me saying that.

Let's see what Alakazam makes of all of that.
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Sir Chris

Also I am not lynching FD today just for the Naruto reference. Everyone else in this game can promptly go to hell if they disagree tbqh
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Sir Chris

So you're Rock Lee and I am Naruto - a genius of both natural talent AND hard work?

Okay so I am a little less Naruto these days but you know, priorities.
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Sir Chris

I have to say I really love FD's effort in the game of mafia the last few times I have played with him. I have no idea if he does this as scum (2/2 town so far with me seeing it) but every time I play with FD he is giving good effort. I appreciate that.

Yeah my weird day 1 was super useful, I am happy with that game from my viewpoint (despite the L, I didn't have much bitterness because there were several factors on both sides and my PoE was off by 1 person, which is reasonably okay given everything but sadly if I did that this game they would probably just murder me night 1 anyway so!) but I had a different thought on red. I am not explaining this but I didn't consider your thought so thanks for that.

Mzero what do you think of Tony, Ashe, Red, and FD?
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Sir Chris

Hello FD. What do you draw from red here? I made an assumption.
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Sir Chris

FD when do I ever read the topic in order and every post? For example I have only read your last couple of posts now. Surely you know this about me now.

I applaud your effort to teach my cute kouhai though.
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Sir Chris

Hm.

Hey Ashe why haven't you placed a vote on anyone with the day over half over?
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Sir Chris

Hey uh Tony, I don't know what you think you are doing but my vote reasoning on you is legitimate and you seem to be trying to say it isn't and doing so in kind of an abrasive way. I am trying to be a kindler, gentler Chris (apparently except to Dels on day 3 of him being weird but shh) but if you are town this requires back and forth and honest discussion.
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Sir Chris

Mzero are you scum? If so are you Usurper.
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Sir Chris

Meow1000 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

You know I won't even lie I thought Sultan was Suprak this entire time.

I had no idea what you were saying when you put Suprak on a hypothetical scumteam I just thought you were screwing around

I mean I will screw around sometimes but I... yup.

Anyway Blade this is weird I am seeing posts from you. Thoughts on Tony?
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Sir Chris

Chris calling this out was your classic Ulti/narcissist-maneuver: Plum buttered his biscuit, so naturally he's inclined to echo what was said, even when it's nonsensical.

Uhhh... let's just be clear when this ends with me being the bad guy I vote Tony purely for mafia reasons and he says it is a 'narcissist' tactic. First off Plum is, fairly often, a decent hand at mafia if town (and will bus his team super hard as town hi plum) so me echoing his thoughts isn't too uncommon plus even without him there I read your post myself and was like "Um Zach is obviously messing around, and in Tony's haste to spit out a reaction he missed the super obvious fake claim nature" since scum will usually not think town is fake claiming unless it's me or corrik or Alakazam (new addition to that hallowed hall) so yeah this is super defensive and trying to strike at my credibility on what was a poke vote more than anything.

Um...

Oh right tony and zach aren't scum buddies, likely.
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Sir Chris

You know I won't even lie I thought Sultan was Suprak this entire time.
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Sir Chris

By the way anyone who is threatened by corrik to 'claim or die' he doesn't have the clout to carry out that threat. I don't want any pointless claiming, I want pressure and discussion.
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Sir Chris

I don't play like everyone else either and I am pretty happy with me.
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Sir Chris