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I'd pick one from Shad/Dels/Ashe

Though I feel best about Ashe (and worst about Shad by nature.)
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Oh... that explains Mzero's action.
Sorta.
He still should have known Leo would flip all that stuff to disprove his claim, shouldnt he?
Well whatever, in the end it only hurt scum, so I cant complain.

Corrik posted...

Btw, super tingly right now with Ashe seeming to know about usurper before it dropped.

I am not sure shad/Ashe is so clear cut assuming a scum jinjo doesn't flip on today's Lynch.

I am not sure scum would want to drop the word Usurper, seeing as how town would wonder how one came to such a theory, once Mzero flipped.

But I suppose Ashe could have said it just so people like me would think this way.
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But my imaginary lynchpoints.
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Also can anyone unvote so I can drop mine without putting it at -1?
Not that you need my vote, but still..
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Hmm.
Outside of Shad, I dont know if any of the players are the kind to be inactive on the scumboard. (maybe pxel, but I trust her)

Hell Leo was online when Mzero did the thing, and I feel he would have not condoned this.
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Somewhat
Allthough mostly I feel better about Panth, Ashe a little too.

One question that comes to my mind is what you think of Panth following you unto Leo, and also what you make of Dels' initial reaction to your leo claim.

Oh and this is more a curiosity than a helpful question. But would you have believed BCT's claim?
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Interestingly enough post 26 Han votes Shad and asks if this does anything. I am not sure, and I mean that sincerely, if a scum Han who knows what is up with Shad's role/has contact with Shad would roll out a vote on him there. Just a thought though.

Post 62 from eaed (Ashe) mentions Shad COULD BE KIDNAPPED BY A NIGHT 1 JANITOR.

Okay let's have some real talk. Maybe Eaed decides to post that as scum (leaning no) but there are NO WORLDS THAT EXIST that have him post that and Shad is his scum buddy. I will fight anyone who disagrees with that.

Also eaed championing for a shorter day after Leo tells him town lost in epic fashion due to them and him still liking them is... rather sturdy for an eaed. I like it.

Han asking for Panthera's role on page 2 is... interesting scum buddy tactics.

...

Corrik saying 'Oh' as soon as Shad reappears is fucking hilarious, and they are not scum buddies either.

So an interesting dyanmic in the jinjos has occurred.

Shad and Corrik aren't buddies
Shad and Ashe aren't buddies
and Corrik is claiming to have scanned Ashe scum

Meaning Shad is now confirmed town, good job Shad.

Aside from some minor stuff on Eaed (and some other stuff I removed as it was about already dead players), this post from Chris is mostly about Shad and I thought it was interesting to bring it back. (Even if Shad is no longer 'confirmed' town.)
It does reassure me a little that Shad and Eaed probably arent the last 2 scum together. The same was said about Corrik and Shad. But then I like Corrik anyway, so thats likely true already.
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people use scummon jokes all the time here, so I guess he would have said it regardless

Hmm
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your 7:00 PM is my usual time to call it quits
(I think, I am not sure what part of american timezones you live in)
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Oh
o.k.
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Why is that post there twice?
Why quote me afterwards?
Now I am just lost.

Also if he was supposed to be saying that 'zach knew corrik was town?'. That didnt come across to me well.
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What?
I didnt know Corrik was town.
But Colzach acted as if he did.

Also I dont like you just repeating 'Seems to have thought he knew Corrik was town.' at the end, without the context.
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Thanks!

Hey wait a sec..
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Ah.
I forgot that.
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(younger meaning like 7 years ago)
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It reminds me of my younger days, back when I still feverishly saved entire wordfiles of notes for each day.
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Ashethan, I hope you do summaries.

I myself just got done reading day 3, and the only major thing that happened besides the ChrisLeo stuff, was BCT melting down.
I'd bring up my notes, but they all boil down to me not seeing anything suspect about people's reactions to his claim. Some immediately disbelieved it, others tried to think it through, and it was all in character. We even have a rare Shad post, where he said he didnt believe the claim. For what thats worth.
I expected more from day3, but what can ya do.
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also if you may permit me a joke

-Zam/Dels says he'll protect Death from Chris

I am affraid Zam made you honorbound to protect me from Chris now, Dels
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Dels posted...

the shad situation is lame but eh what you can do.

it doesn't sound like anyone had any reasons to townread him anyway when he was around

His claim was weird and that was it. (at least we know his claim)

Also he said he was paralyzed, but we never confirmed that... did we?
And while we have no Paralyzers among our claims, but for all we know, Zyx was the one who did that to him.

(Or scum did it to him to make him look good. Ala kidnapping Chris)
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Dels posted...

reverse psychology?

isn't it, just, like, straightforward psychology? >_>

reverse would be if i said "you should probably vote me before shad"

Bleh
I double negatived myself.
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Dels posted...

you can't, but i probably wouldn't lie as scum about if my post was meant to be a joke or not.

i'll take the null tho

(death you wanna lynch shad before me tomorrow right?)

Oof. Thats a hard one.
I almost never vote someone who cant post. Mostly because I dont know what my vote will do after I sleep.
You could even call it my type of honor like your alliance bit, if you want. (But I'd argue mine is less silly!)

Also even you saying this is making me wonder if this is a reverse psychology bit.

But that aside, if Shad hasnt been replaced by now, scum could be pulling a Tange and deliberately using his IRL stuff as a means to pass him by undetected.
I will need to think on that. My hope is more that Shad just returns in time or gets replaced.
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Dels posted...

i'm just saying, if you're noting reactions, note me as a "i was willing to blindly follow chris onto a leo wagon without any doubts", not a "i thought chris was lying and joked sarcastically about the game being easy to solve" because it was totally the opposite, i thought he was telling the truth and joked sarcastically about him being vanilla

Were you though?
The lack of votals makes it hard to tell. I'd still call Panth a more clear supporter

You did at least eventually clarify to Chris, but that was only after Chris accused you of shying away from him.

But fine, let the record note your correction.
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Well since I cant prove what you are saying in either direction, I will just file it under the 'nulltell section'
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Dels posted...

htaeD posted...

Oh. I thought it was fake (not in the scummy kind, just the sarcastic kind) because of your second post.

Starting the sentence with 'not that I believe him' gave me the impression that that was the serious post.

yeah no the second one was the "don't take this post seriously" post. first one was legit.

Well I can sorta see it, the first post especially. But you can understand my confusion
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Besides the point was to say that you did say Chris was lying.
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Oh. I thought it was fake (not in the scummy kind, just the sarcastic kind) because of your second post.

Starting the sentence with 'not that I believe him' gave me the impression that that was the serious post.
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well then your memory might need an upgrade

yeesh

you guys are just gonna catch all the scum through really clear role stuff and i'm gonna spend the whole game being irrelevant huh?

(not that i believe chris, clearly a lying vanilla, but, y'know, if HE is whatever role he's saying he is)

topic 6, page 2
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It did look like you were catching up. I feel you could have noticed something like that, but that could just be me expecting too much.
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So I will ask Ashe, if he sees this.

What did you think about Chris' claim on Leo, day3?
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Considering its Leo, I wanted to go over everyones reaction, even those outside the PoE

Panth didnt really have a reaction to Chris' claim at first, just questions about BG stuff. Hell he asked for Corriks opinion without giving his own.
Pages later his own input did come and he concluded it with believing Chris having at least something and voted Leo. Pxel argued a lot with Panth about this.

Pxl herself didnt believe Chris either and questioned Chris openly, she was a little more concerned about it than Dels was.

Dels expressed fake amazement at town rolling up scum with powers so much. But he immediately admitted to not believing Chris either.
Delse focuses on BCT mostly and apologizes for not doing much.

Corrik was mostly confused, and didnt seem to disbelieve it at first.
He did change into his stance once Chris added the n0 part to his claim though. And claimed he didnt expect Chris to take his entire claim back once Chris did so.

Ashethan didnt have a response, focusing a lot on catching up first.
When he returned, he talked about one of my posts. Still no opinion on Leo or Chris.

Of the reactions I like Corriks and pxels. They seem the least cautious and measured.

Panth was delayed, and very sheepish around it in the end. Not the worst stance. But if it wasnt for the other stuff I already saw around him, I would put him back in the PoE.

Delse backed off, and didnt say much at all. But at least he gave his opinion right away. Even if that was the same one scum would know (that Chris was lying).

Ashethan I am actually the most lukewarm about. As far as I can tell, he never said one thing about it. Treating it as if there was nothing to see at all.

Oh and Shad wasnt there for it, of course.
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Oh man you're going all out

Meanwhile my own rereads tell me I say 'I should remedy that' a lot..
...
I should cure that.
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log(skip this part)faqs

why did we have 2 part 11s anyway?
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I... dont remember that at all, no.

Must have blocked it from my memory

Anyway, enough sunday relaxation. Time to read day3
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Honestly my favorite bits of that song are 0:21 when the actual song drops. (Because its always timed with the rainbow psychedelic background taking over the battle) and the flowey theme rendition around 1:30 (and how it sneaks up on you beforehand)
But all of it is so, so good.

(fwiw = For what its worth)
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Normally I cant see Leo as the type to stop talking on a scumboard once he's dead. But in this case he might be pissed off enough to do just that.

I dont even remember Hans scum game to make a call like that though.

But yeah Mzero's claim doesnt come across as the most well planned out. It reads more like a snap reaction to Corriks unexpected scan.

"Call me scum? No. No you!"
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Wow, that one save that damned russia
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Taking a small break from ISOing btw.

Also it does feel like those who are Out of the PoE are taking it easy today.
Cant blame them. (Maybe they were watching soccer)
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topic2 done, ashe didnt make much of an impression yet.

Unlike Panthera and his goddamn walls.
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well guess I am gonna assume a gender then!

Anyway I suppose its only fair for me to say what I would believe if you or Shad flipped town.
Based on what I see of Panth, I'd still take him as town. Corrik, Pxel, Chris also have really good reasons to be town. So I'd probably look at Ashethan myself.
But I am at the point now where Ashe replaces Eaed. And that conversation he has with Han is very much of the not W-W looking variety.
I still think I feel better about Eaeds chances as scum than Panths.

But knowing my luck I'd be lynched sooner than that anyway, and I wont get/have to worry about that.
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Ok, I will start with a light question.

Is Ashe a he or she? I remember so little posts, I cant even be sure.
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You made it sound like it was a big list or something. A post I wouldnt just gloss over. I didnt exactly go back to read the beginning of this day in detail, mind you.

Again, I worded myself badly. Its not so much looking at the future, of course you can do that.
But you havent been attacking anyone else as fiercely as me, not since you narrowed down your PoE at least.

(Again again, the whole point was dumb of me anyway)
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well if shad was town and i wasn't, i'd still need a plan for how to survive when shad flips town and people come for me next

Oh I think you'd be dead regardless. But you'd still have a scumpartner

...
Unless scum had 4 members all this time. But I dont think so.

Also no wonder I didnt see it then. But I can agree that Chris is very town.
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Then again, some scumplayers just play differently than others anyway.
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Dels posted...

htaeD posted...

I realize now, that whether you were town or pretending to be, you wouldnt want think to look further into the future than you need.

also I have already looked into the future twice today and wondered about what would happen if we lynched death and shad and the game didn't end

so this is fake again

(if you're scum, sorry, it is just my job to call out every single false thing or incorrect logic you say about me)

Did you? I must have not noticed. What were your conclusions then?

Also I wasnt being very clear I notice. With future plans I mean less, predictions. And more, trying to find suspicious things from more than the two main suspects one has.

Supposing Shad was town and you were not. You wouldnt need to focus on anyone but me and him.
But I was thinking a town who believed in me and Shad being scum that much, wouldnt devote much time to other players right away. And neither would a scum who is pretending to be town.
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Dels posted...

htaeD posted...

Mathematically scum needs 2 more mislynches. I am likely one, and assuming you are scum, it doesnt come across like you need more than me and Shads lynches.

Huh?

If I'm scum, then aren't I probably with Shad? In which case I do need more than you and Shad. I'd need you... AND chris or ashe or panthera (or pxl but lol no)

Keep in mind that I am still not 100 % on Eaed being town. Nor am I that confident in my own PoE.
But it doesnt matter. I already saw that my theory was wacko.
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Of course, my own PoE has now kicked Panthera to the side.

Btw, considering monday is a busy day for me, I would be okay with using all 48 hours this day.
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This is more of the PoE, than anything you have done yourself. Dont misunderstand, this is barely a theory at this point. I just wanted to air my guts.

Mathematically scum needs 2 more mislynches. I am likely one, and assuming you are scum, it doesnt come across like you need more than me and Shads lynches.

I realize now, that whether you were town or pretending to be, you wouldnt want think to look further into the future than you need.
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Actually I should have just asked him about that, sorry Delse.
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I have to say though. It does worry me that Dels doesnt seem at all concerned about the chances of Shad being town or scum.
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uses pretty weak language to indicate he doesn't believe the n0 thing

Thats just the way I like to write. *shrug*

Also I have to correct you there. I called the n0 part a lie. Not the whole claim.
I felt it possible for chris to add some extra stuff to his claim just for shits and giggles.

But like I said, I wanted to wait for Leo as well because I just dont like going after players who I am not sure can even post at the moment.
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