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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 9:45:37 PM
#155
Sephiroth1288 posted...
How many times have you equated ethnic cleansing with right-wing policy now?

Not right-wing policy. A specific right-wing policy.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Seriously, give me your definition of "right-wing". Because you seem to believe it means "white people being racist and evil".


Holy fuck. Again, Stalin was left-wing. Fascism and Communism are diametrically opposed. Fascism never even asks for democracy. By your logic, absolute monarchies are inherently left. Fascism is not about abolishing private property and removing individuality. Fascism is not about rejecting and overthrowing tradition. They don't want to recruit the world to their cause, even by violent means. They want to kill the world that isn't already part of their cause. Fascism is a burning example of classism. Fascism works with the rich. Communism eats them. Fascism doesn't see brutal military violence as a means to an end. It is the end. Ethnonationalism is not a bipartisan policy no matter how you slice it.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 9:06:49 PM
#147
Sephiroth1288 posted...
In what context are minimum wage laws a right-wing policy

Yeah and Trump is a progressive liberal because he hasn't rebanned gay marriage.

Also, collectivism is non-partisan and not diametrically opposed to individualism. I think you're confusing collectivism with something else. Jim Crow was collective.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 9:04:48 PM
#146
Why is fascism placed on the far-right of the political spectrum if it so obvious that they're basically Berniecrats? Again, what are you and Dinesh seeing that the world has refused to acknowledge?
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 9:01:03 PM
#145
So yeah you do still think I am associating evil with right wing despite admitting Soviet Russia was far left and Stalin is basically the most evil person ever. Internment camps are indefensible and I still find your decision to keep comparing FDR to Hitler and Stalin to be pretty interesting. Funny how they can be left-wing despite not being Stalin, yet you think the Nazis not being Trump proves they can't be right.

And please, tell me what you're seeing that no one else does? I don't want to hear about how you knew how obvious it was in high school. Why don't people come to your conclusion? Your curious beliefs aren't popular among anyone.

Since you can only think in terms of the American political dichotomy, let's try discussing on your level. Nationalism, exceptionalism and a strong distaste towards immigrants? Definitely more of a coservative thing. Social conservatism? It's in the word. Traditionalism? Conservatives. Loud and vehement disgust of socialism, communism, and liberalism? Red state. Anti-Union? GOP.

Hitler would have made everyone suffer equally if he was a left-wing extremist. He didn't want to spread socialism to the world. He wanted to take over the world for the Aryan. Hitler and Pinochet had similar goals. Hitler just chose to sweet talk his way into power rather than take it with brute force. Also, you can't just handwave away the nationalist and racially superior elements of the Nazis. Yeah, it's cute to say a lot of people on all sides can be racist, but FDR's goal wasn't a White ethnostate and America taking over the world for itself. The American government just had a really shitty racist reaction to getting pulled into a world war by Imperial Japan.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 8:25:33 PM
#136
Sephiroth1288 posted...
I think it lines up more with Democrats then Republicans, and that much is pretty undeniable

Then why does everyone deny it? Why is Dinesh D'Souza one of the only people brave enough to expose the truth that people have been denying for 80 years? Also, arbitrarily assigning point values to a dictatorship's policies and declaring them on the side of whichever 2018 American party they match closer to seems like a weird way of determining one's place on the political spectrum. I still feel like you think I am trying to conclude that Republicans are Nazis or some shit.

Nazis lied about their nature to try and win their people over, crush their enemies, and keep the world off their back as long as possible. They were as socialist as North Korea is a democratic republic of the people. You're taking certain policies, ignoring their context and everything else, and pushing some bizarre theory that has almost no support in any community. Also, why is Nazism the one political position that its own followers get so wildly wrong? If Nazis are left wing, then it's like if a communist identified as a anarchocapitalist.
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TopicCan someone explain why gerrymandering is legal?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 7:44:23 PM
#11
Broken_Zeus posted...
You mean why is drawing congressional districts legal?

Gerrymandering is a practice intended to establish a political advantage for a particular party or group by manipulating district boundaries.

manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.

It is not just drawing them.
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TopicMother confronts Scott Pruitt at DC restaurant
hockeybub89
07/02/18 7:36:54 PM
#34
"If you want to change the nation, then so something and talk to the people in charge"

"Haha crazy triggered liberals!"
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TopicIn the US, what rights do men have that women do not?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 7:33:57 PM
#173
southcoast09 posted...
We get nine months of paid paternity leave oh, wait. No we dont

Neither do women. I'm currently working with 3 pregnant women. Maternity leave is a lot shittier than I thought it was.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 6:17:36 PM
#129
And again, if wanted to be disingenuous and push all bad guys from my side, I'd be doing what you're doing for Nazis to the Soviets, but I'm not. Because they were obviously left-wing and pretty much everyone agrees on that.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 6:14:01 PM
#128
So your argument here is that government control is exclusively left-wing?

And what the fuck? The part you quoted literally mentions that the Nazis dissolved unions and didn't care about workers rights? Aren't those things that are more up the right's alley?

"The things that sound like left talking points prove they are left, but the things that sound like right talking points don't matter. Also, who cares about social conservatism and literal genocide in the name white supremacy? BLM want black supremacy and they're leftists! FDR was basically as racist as Hitler. Does that make him a right-wing extremist?"
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TopicNeo-nazi Arthur Jones wins republican ticket and will run for congress.
hockeybub89
07/02/18 5:57:27 PM
#14
I can't believe a left-wing extremist is running as a Republican
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 5:49:41 PM
#123
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Is Mal just defending him this much because D'Souza also considers Nazism left-wing? Like s*** they've both advanced the "THEY HAD SOCIALIST IN THEIR NAME!" argument.

I've never claimed the nazis were left-wing because they have "socialist" in their name. I define ideologies by what they do.

What are you seeing that the experts keep missing though?

The existence of other people who agree with you isn't an argument.

Tell you what, find a source by one of these experts you keep referring to that explains what places Nazis on the right of the political spectrum and I'll respond to it. Deal?

History textbooks

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

And you still aren't explaining why the vast majority of people think exactly opposite of you and not seeing that obviously Nazi Germany was a socialist society that seeked to dissolve the state and give the means of production to the workers. "They only hated socialists, communists, and liberals because of jealousy!" Now please call FDR Hitler again or whatever the fuck.

You can't seriously be surprised that there are people that think fascism is a right-wing extremist ideology. That would be like not knowing people believe in evolution.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 5:37:15 PM
#120
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Is Mal just defending him this much because D'Souza also considers Nazism left-wing? Like s*** they've both advanced the "THEY HAD SOCIALIST IN THEIR NAME!" argument.

I've never claimed the nazis were left-wing because they have "socialist" in their name. I define ideologies by what they do.

What are you seeing that the experts keep missing though?
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TopicDo you believe taxation is theft?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 5:34:51 PM
#21
TopicOne of my technicians got fired today for leaving the oil cap off a vehicle.
hockeybub89
07/02/18 5:34:09 PM
#28
TopicIn the US, what rights do men have that women do not?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 5:32:08 PM
#70
Everyone has equal rights. Congratulations. Now stop whining about how oppressed men are. Take that shit to redpill.
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TopicSarah Huckabee: US has been "very nice to Canada," is being exploited
hockeybub89
07/02/18 4:36:34 PM
#5
TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 4:06:38 PM
#104
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Let's try something else: what do you believe right wing ideology consists of?

I don't believe there is a right wing ideology. I believe fascism is one right wing ideology. And the experts agree with me. What research did you do, what school did you go to where you learned these alternative facts? Why do you believe there is a conspiracy to push Nazis as right-wing If they obviously aren't? I'm starting to wonder if you think people are saying the entire right wing is Nazis when they say Nazis are right wing. The only way to explain your unique interpretation of the world. You seem to legitimately think that oppressive government, collectivism and claiming to be doing it for the people are inherently left-wing. Funny how the Nazis were genocidal maniacs, but you refuse to believe they could be liars.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 3:00:17 PM
#93
CrimsonRage posted...
none of those are incompatible with right-wing ideology. especially "collectivism".

Every society ever is left-wing if Mal is correct.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 2:52:57 PM
#91
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Man you really should get into history and poli-sci. You could literally change everything humanity knows with your unique insights. It must suck to be the only one in the room who knows the truth

Can you explain how minimum wage laws are right wing or can't you

Or public infrastructure programs

Or wage ceiling for people who make a lot of money

Or heavy business regulations

Or collectivism in general

Can you explain why you're the only one who gets this? Has the Western world secretly been run by far-left SJWs for decades that seek to crush the truth of fascism because it makes them look bad?

So your answer is "no". Gotcha.

So what is it you know that experts for the past 80 years have missed?

Just lol at calling the Nazis far-left I'll even give you that it isn't exactly at the far pole from the left, but I can't believe you just hardwave away ethnic cleansing, social conservatism, ultranationalism, autarky, and the fact that they did not reject capitalism or private ownership. "But they didn't have a truly free market and had some government programs outside of the military, so that makes them far-left!"

And don't say "but the USSR" or some shit because I am not sitting here jumping through hoops and rejecting common knowledge because I don't want a bad guy on my team. The Soviets were on the left and they were very bad. Stalin killed more people than anyone.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 2:30:56 PM
#80
Bio1590 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
hockeybub89

A genocide is a genocide. It doesn't require a legal definition and no one is suggesting taking long dead corpses to trial

There was no genocidal policy legally or in reality.

There were a few events that were genocidal and more than a few white people acted in a genocidal manner with a genocidal intent against the natives. But there was no federal policy calling for the genocide of Native Americans.

I mean there's two possibilities here. We knew what would happen and did it anyway or we accidentally almost eradicated a native population. So genocide or a really stupid tragedy. We didn't exactly hold anyone accountable for those "isolated genocidal events" within that forced relocation or that President Jackson gave a fuck.

Third possibility:

There was a huge, mostly accidental tragedy which killed the vast majority of Native Americans coupled with a malevolent campaign of colonization and oppression that capitalized on the demographic disaster caused by the native Americans lack of immunity to Eurasian diseases.

We don't have to make what happened any cleaner by denying the atrocities that most certainly occurred nor hyperbolize by throwing out genocide like a buzzword.

So...genocide.

"It wasn't genocide! It was some genocide combined with accidentally killing the other natives and not feeling particularly bad about it! Get it right!"
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 2:29:17 PM
#79
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Man you really should get into history and poli-sci. You could literally change everything humanity knows with your unique insights. It must suck to be the only one in the room who knows the truth

Can you explain how minimum wage laws are right wing or can't you

Or public infrastructure programs

Or wage ceiling for people who make a lot of money

Or heavy business regulations

Or collectivism in general

Can you explain why you're the only one who gets this? Has the Western world secretly been run by far-left SJWs for decades that seek to crush the truth of fascism because it makes them look bad?
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 2:24:34 PM
#76
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
...Ok do you guys genuinely believe that minimum wage, wage ceilings, and more business regulations are right wing policies or are you just trying to be cute

Do you genuinely disagree with almost everyone and instead agree with the historical interpretations of a shock jock that retweeted "#burnthejews"? The left has communist Russia and communist everyone else. You don't get to hand them the Nazis just because you think big government is incompatible with right-wing fascist ideologies.

If you want an example of a corrupt right-wing dictatorship, look at Pinochet's Chile. You'll notice some striking differences between his policies and Hitler's/Mussolini's.

I mean the very fact that fascism is collectivist in nature pretty much negates by itself the claim that it's right-wing.

Man you really should get into history and poli-sci. You could literally change everything humanity knows with your unique insights. It must suck to be the only one in the room who knows the truth
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 2:17:44 PM
#72
Sephiroth1288 posted...
...Ok do you guys genuinely believe that minimum wage, wage ceilings, and more business regulations are right wing policies or are you just trying to be cute

Do you genuinely disagree with almost everyone and instead agree with the historical interpretations of a shock jock that retweeted "#burnthejews"? The left has communist Russia and communist everyone else. You don't get to hand them the Nazis just because you think big government is incompatible with right-wing fascist ideologies.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 2:13:15 PM
#70
KhanJohnny posted...
hockeybub89

A genocide is a genocide. It doesn't require a legal definition and no one is suggesting taking long dead corpses to trial

There was no genocidal policy legally or in reality.

There were a few events that were genocidal and more than a few white people acted in a genocidal manner with a genocidal intent against the natives. But there was no federal policy calling for the genocide of Native Americans.

I mean there's two possibilities here. We knew what would happen and did it anyway or we accidentally almost eradicated a native population. So genocide or a really stupid tragedy. We didn't exactly hold anyone accountable for those "isolated genocidal events" within that forced relocation or that President Jackson gave a fuck.
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TopicWhat age did you first get your drivers license?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 2:05:39 PM
#16
Like 16 and a half. Hardass instructor failed me on my driving test the first time.
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TopicLet's see what Ron Paul has been up to
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:54:18 PM
#2
TopicNew Mexican President Discusses His Plans to Pay for Trump's Wall
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:52:15 PM
#40
It's a metaphor. Mexico will (metaphorically) pay for our (metaphorical) wall.

Hypothetically speaking.
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:45:23 PM
#63
KhanJohnny posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
5. It should also be noted that the concept of genocide did not exist at the time.

People died of diseases before the medical community figure out what those diseases were. Does that mean the diseases didn't exist before then?

"It happened before we had a word for that, so it wasn't that"


That's a poor analogy. Genocide is a crime, and you cant charge people with a crime that doesn't exist at the time without violating the rule of legality.

A disease is a physical reality which exists whether you know about it or not.

A genocide is a genocide. It doesn't require a legal definition and no one is suggesting taking long dead corpses to trial
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:44:09 PM
#61
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Reminder that Mal cited D'Souza's work in regards to his knowledge about the history of WWII

The Nazis were radical leftits!

You're wrong. Overwhelming government control of the private sector, infrastructure programs, wage fixing and price fixing are all highly right-wing ideals.

Finally you've joined the 99%.

What's that called? Horseshoe theory?
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:38:44 PM
#58
KhanJohnny posted...
5. It should also be noted that the concept of genocide did not exist at the time.

People died of diseases before the medical community figure out what those diseases were. Does that mean the diseases didn't exist before then?

"It happened before we had a word for that, so it wasn't that"
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TopicHow has your appearance changed since 2008?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:24:58 PM
#5
TopicWhat do you think happened to the Ancient Egyptians?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:23:56 PM
#3
TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:17:04 PM
#49
KhanJohnny posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Zikten posted...
Garioshi posted...
Reminder that Dinesh D'Souza denies the Native American Genocide.

How can anyone deny that? You can literally see that there are barely any natives left

He doesn't deny it

Except one of his "documentaries" literally tries to argue there was no genocide because they just died from disease, not from systematic extermination.

Do you believe there is anything incorrect about that viewpoing? If so, what?

"We didn't kill them. We just forcibly relocated them at gunpoint and nature killed them. Our hands are clean!"
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:14:11 PM
#47
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Reminder that Mal cited D'Souza's work in regards to his knowledge about the history of WWII

The Nazis were radical leftits!
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TopicDinesh D'Souza tweets #burnthejews
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:11:26 PM
#45
Imagine whining about the Democrats destroying the nation while a Republican administration that pardoned you literally runs every arm of the government
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TopicIf you had a son would you get him circumsized?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:08:20 PM
#8
TopicCircumcised guys:"I'm glad I was circumcised.I like it the way it is."
hockeybub89
07/02/18 1:07:54 PM
#58
TopicTransexualism no longer considered a mental disorder by WHO
hockeybub89
07/02/18 12:59:11 PM
#128
"Accept who you are by ignoring that you are trans"
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Topicwhy don't socialists talk about raising the capital gains tax more often?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 12:57:26 PM
#46
Socialism is not a singular philosophy, so it seems disingenuous to always bring up the failures of communism.

Not everyone who supports socialist ideas is calling for straight Marxism evolving as it did in Soviet Russia.

That's like assuming everyone who says they support capitalism is an ancap or a fascist.

The capitalism/communism dichotomy is stupid.
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TopicPresident Donald J. Trump vs President Vladimir V. Putin.
hockeybub89
07/02/18 12:52:09 PM
#22
Putin would absolutely smash that old tub of orange lard.
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TopicDo you see yourself still being on gamefaqs long enough to get ? block status?
hockeybub89
07/02/18 12:38:49 AM
#60
TopicFood that tastes better than it sounds
hockeybub89
07/02/18 12:08:02 AM
#6
TopicLeftist wins Mexico's presidency
hockeybub89
07/02/18 12:02:18 AM
#53
We wouldn't want anything to upset the stability of a thriving nation like Mexico
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TopicLeftist wins Mexico's presidency
hockeybub89
07/01/18 11:47:09 PM
#48
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Maybe it's time for me to abandon the conservative label in its entirety since it no longer accurately represents what I believe to be correct.

Something like Technocracy sounds better tbqh. Technocrats ftw

I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture
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TopicPussy ANTIFA guy swings metal bar at Trump supporter - 1 of them get laid out
hockeybub89
07/01/18 11:39:07 PM
#79
I don't understand why people get so upset when people fight with alt-righters and Nazis. Not advocating violence is one thing. Getting upset is another.
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TopicLast.fm topic
hockeybub89
07/01/18 11:17:07 PM
#3
TopicTransexualism no longer considered a mental disorder by WHO
hockeybub89
07/01/18 8:48:39 PM
#123
kayoticdreamz posted...
the solution should never be a life long treatment plan if we can avoid it.

What is the permanent solution that is being swept under the rug. If we haven't developed said solution, do you think it is better to do nothing than do something that is a lifelong treatment? Is being trans even really that high maintenance after a point? Millions of people take maintenance medication every day. It's no big deal.
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TopicTransexualism no longer considered a mental disorder by WHO
hockeybub89
07/01/18 8:44:18 PM
#120
kayoticdreamz posted...
it is now taboo to say trans people shouldnt accept themselves

Whether you call it a mental disorder, physical disorder, or whatever, since when has been telling people just to accept it been sound medical advice?
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