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TopicIn Florida, pushing someone is punishable by death.
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07/23/18 2:59:50 PM
#95
darkjedilink posted...
_RETS_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
_RETS_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Anyone find out the races yet?

Well, nobody's shouting racism, so the victim isn't black, most likely.


He is black. The shooter was a white guy

No fuckin' way...

Unless I am very mistaken or saw a completely different video of a guy getting shot after shoving a dude in a Florida parking lot....

Then I'm curious as to where the sensationalized-to-the-point-of-literally-doctoring-a-911-call reporting is.


Well It's likely coming, but it also seems to be worse in situations where whatever the controversy is was justified. This, however, should lead to the white dude getting some sort of charge. The victim was backing up when shot. Hard to see this as self-defense after he backed away.
TopicIn Florida, pushing someone is punishable by death.
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07/23/18 2:43:41 PM
#93
darkjedilink posted...
_RETS_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Anyone find out the races yet?

Well, nobody's shouting racism, so the victim isn't black, most likely.


He is black. The shooter was a white guy

No fuckin' way...


Unless I am very mistaken or saw a completely different video of a guy getting shot after shoving a dude in a Florida parking lot....
TopicIn Florida, pushing someone is punishable by death.
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07/23/18 2:40:07 PM
#91
darkjedilink posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Anyone find out the races yet?

Well, nobody's shouting racism, so the victim isn't black, most likely.


He is black. The shooter was a white guy
TopicIn Florida, pushing someone is punishable by death.
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07/23/18 2:26:37 PM
#88
Just brandishing the gun would have been enough, as evident by the guy backing off when he saw it. From the footage available, there wasn't a reason to kill the guy.
TopicStand your ground law protects shooter in fight over parking space
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07/21/18 1:23:48 PM
#7
The black guy was already backing up after he pushed the guy. There was no reason, from what I see in the footage, for the White guy to do anything beyond just pulling his gun if he even had to do that. Looks like a bad shoot based on what we have to go on right now. Terrible
TopicHome Depot fires black man standing up to racist customer
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07/20/18 9:14:04 PM
#69
Laserion posted...
_RETS_ posted...
An Academy fired a white dude for stopping a black suspect who was trying to steal a gun and ammo from the store.

Does that qualify for a "this is america" race-baiting bullshit headline or nah?

No one is a thief while in the store. Even if you see someone pocket something, you can't accuse them of anything until they take it outside without paying (where the loss prevention team will be waiting). The person could just pull the item out and pay it before leaving.


Except the dude was running away having taken a gun and ammo. No need to try and explain it away
TopicHome Depot fires black man standing up to racist customer
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07/20/18 6:24:29 PM
#42
Aye posted...
_RETS_ posted...
An Academy fired a white dude for stopping a black suspect who was trying to steal a gun and ammo from the store.

Does that qualify for a "this is america" race-baiting bullshit headline or nah?

Wow, you are pathetically transparent


Bet you can't articulate why you think that?

FWIW, i don't think the black dude ITT should have been fired at all and wish the white dude would have thrown a punch so the employee could have beat his ass. I am more commenting on the horse shit "this is america" nonsense as if this story is representative of anything at all.
TopicHome Depot fires black man standing up to racist customer
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07/20/18 6:13:24 PM
#30
An Academy fired a white dude for stopping a black suspect who was trying to steal a gun and ammo from the store.

Does that qualify for a "this is america" race-baiting bullshit headline or nah?
TopicGeorgia waitress takes down customer who groped her
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07/20/18 5:33:37 PM
#69
Just saw this video elsewhere and remembered seeing this topic earlier today. Good for her. Fuck that guy and I hope she doesn't get fired
TopicMaxine Waters supporters burn American flag in front of her office
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07/20/18 4:56:45 PM
#109
J E S U S posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
Romes187 posted...
yeah she didn't say attack

she just said harass

This. While I don't agree with that approach, I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who would trash her on that, but don't mention the aftermath that included actual death threats from her opposition.

J E S U S posted...
fcJocfS


id call this a carjacking to be honest


They were obviously trying to open the guy's door to give him a warm leftist hug. Not to physically assault him in a group and continue to do so when he is on the ground.
TopicMaxine Waters supporters burn American flag in front of her office
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07/20/18 2:44:43 PM
#79
FrisbeeDude posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I dunno what it is about this woman that people care so much about


loud black women REALLY trigger flyover America...unless they're candace Owens or Diamond and Silk. wonder why that is


What do you wonder exactly? You wonder why someone sides with someone they agree with over someone they don't, regardless of their race? You are defeating your own racism/victimhood narrative.
TopicMaxine Waters supporters burn American flag in front of her office
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07/20/18 2:30:28 PM
#72
Heineken14 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
J E S U S posted...
My1pbgo

Cant say this is a good look for the independent voter to get on your side

It really isn't. Then again, racist liberals don't know the concept.


Meh, I'd rather a burned flag on my side than this.

IDvdcdU


How about the kidnapping and torture of a mentally disabled teenager on your side?
TopicPortland bakery fires employees after they denied service to black AFTER closing
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07/20/18 10:53:09 AM
#138
JE19426 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
That's a fair assesment of you in this topic and your failure at grasping basic service practice even after multiple peopke have explained it to you.


Nah, I grasp the business practice, I just recongise that it's a bad one and leads to results like the ones in OP.

_RETS_ posted...
A lot of retail stores, but pretty much ALL restaurants operate this same way.


Such as?


Such as pretty much every restaurant. But you can't be this dumb, so I'll let everyone else try to un-stupid you
TopicPortland bakery fires employees after they denied service to black AFTER closing
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07/20/18 10:35:39 AM
#128
JE19426 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Yes. Like every business on the planet does.


Not this business apparently, since at least three customers got in after closing.


A lot of retail stores, but pretty much ALL restaurants operate this same way. You are either being stubborn or are an idiot. The former is easier to fix so just admit to it, improve yourself, and then you can avoid making yourself look like a fool in the future and everyone wins.
Topic11 dead 7 injured several left unaccounted for in Branson mo
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07/20/18 9:22:38 AM
#17
Jesus Christ. That would be terrifying.
TopicWhen you remember that white nationalism is the status quo already, it's easier.
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07/20/18 9:12:29 AM
#49
Ving_Rhames posted...
_RETS_ posted...
You don't think hoax hate crimes, baseless accusations of racism


You mean like the white people who claimed they were attacked in viewings of Black Panther?
You mean like the white people who took a picture of a model with halloween makeup on and claimed it was an attack from black people on her because she's white?
You mean like the white people who make up this statistic? https://www.newsweek.com/white-americans-feel-they-are-victims-discrimination-new-poll-shows-691753

And that isn't even new, they thought they were the most "discriminated against" since 2014. Come off it.


What is this dumbass what-aboutism? Yes, I mean like those scenarios. Though I am willing to bet for every story like those you will find 5 like the one with the restaurant not letting that black (and right before her, white) lady in after closing and it blowing up like some huge race issue.

And the latter stories blow up in the media and on social media way, way more than the ones you describe. I'm just not sure what your point is. Mine was simply that racist incidents have not necessarily increased, but things being misrepresented as racism without facts and the media-driven narrative that launches off of that have certainly increased. Not only are actual incidents more widely viewed and known about (even if they are not actually occurring more than any other time) because of the prevalence of cameras and 24 hour news, but now more issues are twisted into race issues because there is a clear agenda behind it.
TopicWhen you remember that white nationalism is the status quo already, it's easier.
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07/20/18 6:32:30 AM
#37
Authentic_fan posted...

You don't think hoax hate crimes, baseless accusations of racism, and false media narratives of situations like Michael Brown and Antwon Rose are contributing factors?

Even so, I think there is far, far more ideological tension than racial tension. Media just likes to hype the racism boogeyman because it gets clicks.


All of those things contribute but trumps policies on immigration obviously have had a direct effect on the racial tensions in.america

It's only natural. We are the most diverse country in the world and now we have a guy in office who is directly coming at these people. Why wouldn't there be a backlash?

He also caused a lot of it by the way he attacked the NFL and changed the narrative of the kaepernick protests.

His comments on Mexicans being criminals and all the other things he's said about foreign nations.

You can't blame Trump 100% but he is a very big reason as to why this is going on.

And like I said, this makes people on the other side of the Trump train look at his supporters and think "they're racist"

I personally do not believe all Trump supporters are racists but I feel like many of them are. But there is racism on both sides, definitely. Either way, his policies have had a direct influence on this divide.


Fair, though I partly disagree, but I wasn't necessarily talking about people thinking his supporters are racist. More about the media driving the narrative of racism and reporting things as racist incidents without facts and letting that narrative stand even when opposing facts come to light.

Like, there is absolutely no reason that "black lady not let into a store that was closed" thing should have even made local papers. But now those employees are fired because of the (social) media driven outrage based entirely on a falsehood.

It isn't that overt racism has become more common, but claims of it definitely have.
TopicWhen you remember that white nationalism is the status quo already, it's easier.
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07/20/18 6:11:22 AM
#31
Authentic_fan posted...
Also racial tensions are higher right now than they've been since I've been alive

And yes the reason for it is because the leader of the country is a man who has created a divide by making obscene ignorant comments

The divide also happens when others see people support such hatred and bigotry

So Trump is one of the direct causes for all the racial tension in America. It is what it is


You don't think hoax hate crimes, baseless accusations of racism, and false media narratives of situations like Michael Brown and Antwon Rose are contributing factors?

Even so, I think there is far, far more ideological tension than racial tension. Media just likes to hype the racism boogeyman because it gets clicks.
TopicPapa John is suing Papa John's
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07/19/18 6:03:26 PM
#54
Conflict posted...
@devilminion posted...
Conflict posted...
Don't use "blackmail" if you have no idea wtf it means. What an extremely stupid set of posts.


Sorry, didn't mean to offend your Papa. You are right, I was wrong, I guess he isn't a terrible human being. Carry on with your special sauce pizza.


What?

That doesn't even make sense. You were claiming he was getting blackmailed when he voluntarily stepped down. Are you drunk?


In fairness, it may be a "voluntary" resignation. Meaning they gave him the option to resign with at least some form of dignity or fire him outright. Those make for very different headlines. Essentially urged to resign under threat of something worse happening.
TopicPapa John is suing Papa John's
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07/19/18 4:32:08 PM
#44
jborgan posted...
devilminion posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Id feel bad for the guy if he wasnt such an awful human being


This. I mean, he is definitely a shitbag, but the fact that he got blackmailed out of the company for just uttering the n-word in a non-racist way is kind of dumb. I mean, it almost reads like one of those 5 year old gotcha-moments, "did you say X" "no, I didn't say X" "Ha, you said X now! We're telling!"

He was literally complaining that Colonel Sanders was able to say the n word with no repercussions (no proof there) while at a conference call that was specifically for him so he could be taught not to say stupid things.
There was no blackmail. He dug his own grave, buried himself and took the shovel with him.


Just from the context in which I've seen the quote reported, this isn't really accurate. He wasn't complaining the Colonel Sanders was able to say it with no consequences (true or not) so he should be able to as well. It was more of a "I, the founder of a restaurant, am getting back lash for speaking against a movement that involves a lot of black athletes, yet colonel sanders did/said overtly racist things like the n-word and got no back lash."

Like a "I did this arguably bad thing and am in hot water but he did an obviously bad thing and nothing happened" statement.

The media is definitely acting like he used it in a derogatory way though because that is what's best for their narrative, especially since he supports Trump.

Apparently the guy is a shithead outside of all this controversy though, so fuck him if that's all true. And his pizza plays second fiddle to fucking LC
TopicPortland bakery fires employees after they denied service to black AFTER closing
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07/19/18 2:29:09 PM
#97
darkjedilink posted...
JE19426 posted...
If it's the case I'm thinking of, they were still serving customers. If you are serving customers, you aren't closed.

Were the doors locked?

If you have people in the dining room after closing, you aren't open.


Restaurants often close to new customers and allow customers who are already in to finish. This is pretty much every restaurant ever. They don't have to let anyone else in after their posted closing time. And they turned away two white people before the idiot showed up. Just some moron looking for SJW brigades and media to have her back and it's working

The fact that this isn't known is astounding.
TopicPortland bakery fires employees after they denied service to black AFTER closing
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07/19/18 2:15:51 PM
#92
People are being incentivized to act like this. They know it will stir up a social media shit storm and leftists and the media will firmly side with them and their opponents can easily be dismissed as racist. Hell, not even opponents just people that suggest we should wait for the facts and both sides of the story before jumping into an outrage.

People need to realize that, even if you are mistreated, it doesn't immediately mean it is the result of racism. A white man cutting off a black woman in traffic is just a guy being an asshole, not a product of the racist patriarchy based on the facts we know.

It deligitimizes genuine cases of racism and mistreatment and loses the left a lot of ground. And it's not like they'll admit they pushed a false narrative when the facts come out. And if they do, they will still find a way to twist it into them being right.

It is actual insanity.
TopicCapitalism doesn't work
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07/19/18 12:35:04 PM
#21
It has raised more people out of poverty than any other system in history. It has also given black people much more opportunity to reverse generational poverty and has provided them more ways to pursue those opportunities.

What a complete failure.
TopicThe show that featured Hansen vs Predator got cancelled.
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07/19/18 12:18:16 PM
#15
Zikten posted...
to put it another way

picture a poor person struggling but they don't want to turn to crime. a sting operation shoves money in their face and is like "come on....do it do it do it do it do it!" and then the person snaps and does it. and then the cop says "lol your under arrest"


The pedos initiated the interactions, AFAIK. They just happened to be initiating with an undercover team. These are people that are fully willing to go to a kid's house and fuck them.
TopicPrincipal refuses to allow first black valedictorian to give speech
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07/19/18 9:16:51 AM
#210
@SomeGuyUO posted...
Squidkids posted...
@Dusk_ posted...
Oh_Boy_ posted...
Every post Coffeebeanz has made in race related topics has been anti-black, even when the black person was clearly a victim like this topic.


Clearly? The point is we don't know if his race mattered for this situation. Claiming it is, based off solely the fact he is black and the other isn't is ignorant and just plays into this victimization culture we are in now.

I agree.. also..:
@WheezinEd posted...
SomeGuyUO posted...
How are the past 2 black if he was the first black valedictorian?

It appears that's something the media is literally just making up. I couldn't find any statements from the school or Lovett that he was the first black valedictorian at the school. And I found this video of the 2016 graduation where the valedictorian makes a speech and is a black person.



Always do research. Never take anything at face value.

I get news always skewed stories for ratings for a very long time but flat out lie like that? wtf

He got the wrong school .


His later post cleared up that the separate male and female prep schools share a lot of events like sporting, graduation, etc. Is that part true or false or have you checked the veracity at all?
TopicRogue Squadron II (2001) Ultra-HD.
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07/18/18 4:45:54 PM
#19
HylianFox posted...
_RETS_ posted...
I do not remember this level....

First video is Ison Corridor Ambush
Second is Battle of Endor


Ah, got it. The color of the first one threw me off
TopicRogue Squadron II (2001) Ultra-HD.
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07/18/18 4:39:55 PM
#17
I do not remember this level....
TopicMGM Resorts Sues More Than 1,000 Las Vegas Shooting Victims to Avoid Liability
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07/18/18 3:38:25 PM
#76
Kushinadahime posted...
A lot of times companies will settle even if they know they are not at fault just because it is cheaper than fighting it. Unfortunately this creates a perverse incentive for plaintiffs to sue anybody that may or may not be tangently involved because it is almost guaranteed they will get a settlement even if their case has little to no merit as it is too costly for the defendent to fight it. Add a sob story and the court of public opinion will make the defendent pay something even if they are not at fault legally.


The media is pushing this "evil corporation" narrative hard. Purposely incendiary headlines with one-word quotes from the article like "outrageous" right under the headline just to frame how the reader should feel before they read it.
Topicbeen doing construction work for like a year, but now rapidly losing weight
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07/17/18 9:26:54 PM
#10
Roxborough4Ever posted...
I already learned the hard way....just beg for forgiveness instead of asking....i was dumb and asked to just throw it out the windows into the bin but was told i couldn't

anyways, if i am losing muscle mass, what goes first typically? from what region?


Depends on the individual. If you're losing it, it's likely coming from every where just like fat does. Just eat more
Topicbeen doing construction work for like a year, but now rapidly losing weight
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07/17/18 8:11:54 PM
#6
Roxborough4Ever posted...
_RETS_ posted...
There probably is some lean mass being lost if you've lost that much weight so quickly. A lot of water, some fat, and some muscle. Stay hydrated, obviously, and you probably need to eat more.


yeah, i guess 1500-2500 cals a day isn't cutting it


Not even close from the work you described
TopicPrincipal refuses to allow first black valedictorian to give speech
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07/17/18 8:11:10 PM
#153
Oh_Boy_ posted...
I'm looking for the arrest record for sexual battery. Still can't find it.


No one at all implied the kid had a record of assaulting anyone. The hypothetical was posed as a gauge to determine at what point someone's past goes from "not mattering at all" to mattering when one posted made a blanket statement that his past conduct doesn't matter.

So the hypothetical is posed to take that idea to the logical extreme. Does it not ever matter, no matter what? Does it begin to matter at some point? If so, what is that point?

That was the point of the hypothetical, whether that was the best way to ask it or not. Not to imply the kid did anything wrong at all. But you know that and are just pretending to be stupid.

Anyways, anyone gonna follow up on the post about this school having had a black valedictorian in 2016 and the subsequent explanation that this prep school has a dual graduation with a girls school?
Topicbeen doing construction work for like a year, but now rapidly losing weight
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07/17/18 6:47:07 PM
#2
There probably is some lean mass being lost if you've lost that much weight so quickly. A lot of water, some fat, and some muscle. Stay hydrated, obviously, and you probably need to eat more.
TopicMGM Resorts Sues More Than 1,000 Las Vegas Shooting Victims to Avoid Liability
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07/17/18 4:31:26 PM
#74
P4wn4g3 posted...

Shill for... what exactly? For a business I will never visit? For the actual story and not some fake outrage narrative? What exactly is there to be shilled for?

And if someone AirBnBs my house and snipes a neighbor, I am in no way responsible for that, nor would the law suggest I was.

So if they can follow current procedures to be in line with code, what exactly are those procedures you suggest they didn't follow?

Starting to seem like you got duped by a headline but refuse to dial back your false narrative...
TopicMGM Resorts Sues More Than 1,000 Las Vegas Shooting Victims to Avoid Liability
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07/17/18 3:08:02 PM
#70
P4wn4g3 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm.


P4wn4g3 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?


Capitalizing on not getting sued over something that clearly wasn't their fault? Or rather, capitalizing on not having to deal with hundreds of lawsuits that would all be thrown out but still cost them millions of dollars?

Look at this guy defending literal Las Vegas mob kingpins.

They have spare cash out the ass to pay off the victims, and some amount of culpability since it was their property. The act wasn't theirs, but you know, too bad. They own the property. You have a minor at your house party you are the one going to jail.


They have already contributed millions to the victims. But please answer, what specific standard was in place that they failed to meet that allowed the shooting to happen or increased the likelihood of the shooting?
TopicYou know what's fucking frustrating about cars
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07/17/18 12:49:47 PM
#2
Hey, at least you get to pay an unreasonable amount for the dealer to provide that service.
TopicMGM Resorts Sues More Than 1,000 Las Vegas Shooting Victims to Avoid Liability
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07/17/18 12:40:53 PM
#59
P4wn4g3 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?


And how? I am trying to figure out if you can articulate exactly what you are upset about. In what way are they trying to capitalize?

Btw, unrelated to you, found something showing he break down of relief funds that indicates MGM individually donated millions to the fund.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/las-vegas-victims-fund-to-begin-distributing-31-million-to-shooting-victims
TopicMGM Resorts Sues More Than 1,000 Las Vegas Shooting Victims to Avoid Liability
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07/17/18 12:35:50 PM
#56
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?
TopicMGM Resorts Sues More Than 1,000 Las Vegas Shooting Victims to Avoid Liability
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07/17/18 12:23:59 PM
#51
gunplagirl posted...
It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm.


I have no reason to side with MGM over anyone. If they can show, before a drawn out trial, that there is legal precedent protecting them against liability, then why waste the time and money going through the litigation? I don't think they are doing it BECAUSE it is in the best interest of the victims long term, but I do think it will end up having been in their best interest anyway.

Now, just out of humanity and solidarity, they should be (and should have already) set up charities and initiatives for the victims. Please let me know if they haven't if you've got more info on that.

Just from what I know of the event, what could they have done to prevent the massacre? What specific standard was in place that they didn't uphold that resulted in the shooting happening?
TopicMGM Resorts Sues More Than 1,000 Las Vegas Shooting Victims to Avoid Liability
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07/17/18 12:01:37 PM
#49
gunplagirl posted...
_RETS_ posted...
This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money.

MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims.

Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest.


If their "we are protected from liability" thing held true they could simply use that defense in all the liability cases against them. Instead they're doing something which will require more time and money from victims to resolve


It seems like they are trying to avoid that case altogether by heading it off with established legal precedent. Like a pre-defense to avoid a long and drawn out (and expensive for all parties) trial. This really does seem like it is in the best interest for both parties from what little I've read about it this morning.
TopicMGM Resorts Sues More Than 1,000 Las Vegas Shooting Victims to Avoid Liability
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07/17/18 11:51:32 AM
#45
This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money.

MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims.

Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest.
TopicPolice called on black women for using a coupon
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07/17/18 6:07:58 AM
#325
hockeybub89 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
hockeybub89 posted...

He wouldn't have, because it would have never even been a story. And is it now the point in you making an idiot of yourself where you resort to the "call you what I actually am" rhetoric? I must have missed that on the itinerary.

I hate to break it to you, but people don't only get fired when the big bad SJWs who rule the world make it national news and force companies into compliance. I can assure you that CVS would have fired this guy regardless of what color anyone is. He acted outside of policy and professionalism.


Straw man. Never said that's the only instance in which people get fired. But it is why he got fired. If she was white or he was black, tjis never would have happened. But believe whatever you want.

What would have never happened? Are you calling CVS racist? The media attention is a side effect. A complaint and a quick investigation and that dude would have been toast. So you argument here is either than the woman would have been cool with being treated wrongly if the manager was black or that CVS would have ignored the incident if it was not multiracial. You've clearly never worked a day in your life.


Ha! That's cute. I start working before you wake up and am at work when you go home for the day, and it's been like that since I was 17. Construction, retail, collegiate strength and conditioning, sales, management, now a cumulative mix of the latter three. Odd choice of ad hominem.

Yes, I believe that CVS immediately sided with the outrage to avoid issues. And I don't blame them. Calling the cops on someone who refused to leave your store after following staff around isn't being a bad employee. If it wasn't for the racism hot button this wouldn't be a story and CVS wouldn't have given a shit.

But let's be clear, even if the guy deserved to be fired, it is very irresponsible for the media to paint him as a racist, without evidence, especially with the weight that allegation carries these days. That is my main issue. That he is being smeared by people solely because of his and her skin color based on absolutely nothing else. Some people can be bad employees without being racists.

The media/social outrage about it is my problem. If it is warranted, like the hicks bombing the mosque in Minnesota, by all means sully their name. But no one has any evidence of this guys motive, and his campaign platform pretty overtly suggests the opposite of what's being said of him to be true.

CVS can do whatever they want. I don't have to agree with it. If they fear he will lose them money, bad employee or not, they've got every right to clip him and operate as a business first. But the social/media angle is a very serious issue that is becoming more and more of a problem.
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07/16/18 9:56:47 PM
#312
nicklebro posted...
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If she was white or he was black, tjis never would have happened.

Show me the evidence. If you can't you're a liar and a hypocrite.


You know that's the case. Like you 100% know it, you are just being a partisan dip shit. The simple fact that the black brick bitch isn't being lambasted as a racist by the media when way more evidence points to that being a racially motivated crime than this shows you where the media/culture's head is. No headlines from every news outlet saying "black woman gangs up on elderly Mexican man with black dudes and tries to kill him" but we sure do have "WHITE CVS manager blah blah blah". The media is trying to stir people into an outrage mob over shit like this and it is working. And you are swallowing it up because you and your type are very easily manipulated by bullshit narratives.

A black lady being inconvenienced isn't proof of racism. Sorry if that shatters your reality. Even if the dude is fully guilty of groundlessly kicking her out, you have nothing at all to suggest it is on the basis of her race. In fact, from what we know about him, we have more evidence to suggest he is not the racist you so desperately want and need him to be.
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07/16/18 9:51:50 PM
#311
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Sounds like something trump supporters would do tbh


Yeah, a group of black Trump supporters beating a Mexican man. That's a likely scenario
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07/16/18 9:42:23 PM
#308
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
*facepalm* I never claimed that you said she was a trump supporter. She just is, you can tell because of what she did.

CVS fired him for sucking at his job, not because he was being shamed for <insert speculation>. Why did he have the right to ask her to leave? Obviously she did nothing wrong as he was fired for failing at his job. Are you going to believe a bunch a "waaaaahhh racism!" torch-wielding SJWs on social media over the literal company the man worked for who said his conduct was wrong?

You want to name-call me (flaming lol) a drone, but if you ask me, the SJWs are in your head, not mine. You're flailing now, friendo.

"THE MEDIA! THE MEDIA! BOOGEYMAN MEDIA!" - you.

What fuels the media? People talking shit about the media.

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet." Puppets, drones, same shit different day.

What do you mean by screening sjws btw?


Black people have been violent toward Hispanics and vice versa since before Trump
You have no idea her political affiliation.


Would she have told a Cuban woman to go back to Cuba? A Dominican man to go back to the Dominican Republic? A Puerto Rican teenager to go back to PR? (Which is an official US territory in case you and/or Trump and/or Trump's supporters didn't know)


Uh... probably because she said "go back to your country". You don't think any black people were racist to Mexicans before Trump? That's what you're rolling with?


Is Mexican a race?


100% irrelevant. If a white lady/guy beat the Mexican while yelling him to go back to his country (and recruiting 4 other whites to join the beating) the racism narrative would take center stage and if you think otherwise you are pretending to be dumb.
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07/16/18 9:29:52 PM
#303
hockeybub89 posted...
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hockeybub89 posted...

He wouldn't have, because it would have never even been a story. And is it now the point in you making an idiot of yourself where you resort to the "call you what I actually am" rhetoric? I must have missed that on the itinerary.

I hate to break it to you, but people don't only get fired when the big bad SJWs who rule the world make it national news and force companies into compliance. I can assure you that CVS would have fired this guy regardless of what color anyone is. He acted outside of policy and professionalism.


Straw man. Never said that's the only instance in which people get fired. But it is why he got fired. If she was white or he was black, tjis never would have happened. But believe whatever you want.
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07/16/18 9:27:32 PM
#301
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
*facepalm* I never claimed that you said she was a trump supporter. She just is, you can tell because of what she did.

CVS fired him for sucking at his job, not because he was being shamed for <insert speculation>. Why did he have the right to ask her to leave? Obviously she did nothing wrong as he was fired for failing at his job. Are you going to believe a bunch a "waaaaahhh racism!" torch-wielding SJWs on social media over the literal company the man worked for who said his conduct was wrong?

You want to name-call me (flaming lol) a drone, but if you ask me, the SJWs are in your head, not mine. You're flailing now, friendo.

"THE MEDIA! THE MEDIA! BOOGEYMAN MEDIA!" - you.

What fuels the media? People talking shit about the media.

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet." Puppets, drones, same shit different day.

What do you mean by screening sjws btw?


Black people have been violent toward Hispanics and vice versa since before Trump
You have no idea her political affiliation.


Would she have told a Cuban woman to go back to Cuba? A Dominican man to go back to the Dominican Republic? A Puerto Rican teenager to go back to PR? (Which is an official US territory in case you and/or Trump and/or Trump's supporters didn't know)


Uh... probably because she said "go back to your country". You don't think any black people were racist to Mexicans before Trump? That's what you're rolling with?
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07/16/18 9:23:32 PM
#298
nicklebro posted...
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nicklebro posted...
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Making up that this story has a white racist spin when here is no indication of this being racist? The exact people calling this dude a racist would be the first ones screaming "Trumps America" if brick bitch had been a white person. You're lying to yourself if you think other wise.

So you can't call something racist unless you can prove beyond all doubt that it is? That's just stupid.


So you call someone racist with no evidence of it being so other than "did thing to black person they didn't like" and ruin is livelihood, smear his name, and plaster his info all over the internet as a racist, especially in modern culture, and that's okay with you?

If you're going to make a claim that can ruin someone's life, yeah, I think you should be able to back it up with some evidence. Crazy, Right?

You think there's no evidence? A person was treated irrationally, so there's a reason this person was treated differently than normal. You're saying racism isn't a logic conclusion to come to? Lol you're probably one of those people who said racism was over when Obama got elected.


Uh... No? Isn't a logical conclusion to come to because you have no evidence she was treated different than anyone else would have been in the same situation with the same guy. If you are going to nlast the guy all over the news as a racist and try to ruin him, yeah you better have more evidence than "he did something I don't like to someone who happened to be black." Racism isn't over. And in concert with your run of the mill far right racists, people like you are part of the reason why.
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07/16/18 9:20:37 PM
#297
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
*facepalm* I never claimed that you said she was a trump supporter. She just is, you can tell because of what she did.

CVS fired him for sucking at his job, not because he was being shamed for <insert speculation>. Why did he have the right to ask her to leave? Obviously she did nothing wrong as he was fired for failing at his job. Are you going to believe a bunch a "waaaaahhh racism!" torch-wielding SJWs on social media over the literal company the man worked for who said his conduct was wrong?

You want to name-call me (flaming lol) a drone, but if you ask me, the SJWs are in your head, not mine. You're flailing now, friendo.

"THE MEDIA! THE MEDIA! BOOGEYMAN MEDIA!" - you.

What fuels the media? People talking shit about the media.

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet." Puppets, drones, same shit different day.

What do you mean by screening sjws btw?


Black people have been violent toward Hispanics and vice versa since before Trump
You have no idea her political affiliation.
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07/16/18 9:19:43 PM
#296
nicklebro posted...
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CwebbMichSac4 posted...
yeah so? capn?


So the SJWs here aarend the media so adamant that CVS guy is a horrible racist (despite campaigning in favor of the black people in his community) yet display no outrage at all by an incident (a violent one at that) that has actual evidence of being racially aggravated. There is a clear agenda being pushed.

"This white man is RACIST"

"Woman charged with attempted murder" with no racism angle whatsoever. Funny since the story is about a group of black people trying to kill a mexican while yelling slurs at him.

Lmao you're saying no SJWs displayed outrage at the woman who attacked the Mexican man? Now you're just being willfully ignorant or flat out lying.


Not from the same racism angle they are displaying here, as evident by how the media is reporting the two stories. You are being willfully ignorant
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