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Fony
07/19/18 2:49:41 PM
#101:


LedZeppelin posted...
Fony posted...
Lmao, this is so wrong. They were already turning people away. This is a textbook example of PC gone too far.

you know the store fucked up badly when even fony can recognize that this incident wasnt racist in any way, shape, or form


Don't be bitter about me occasionally calling out actual bias, I'm nowhere near a race baiter. People actually call me a uncle tom when they learn I'm black because I don't have a deeply embedded victim complex and I also call out shit like this.
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thelovefist
07/19/18 2:52:16 PM
#102:


The source in the OP seems highly suspect...
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darkjedilink
07/19/18 2:59:44 PM
#103:


thelovefist posted...
The source in the OP seems highly suspect...

The video of the complaint is in this thread.
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darkjedilink
07/19/18 3:06:10 PM
#104:


I'm beginning to think that the left doesn't like baked goods.
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YodaCrackers
07/20/18 1:01:53 AM
#105:


I work at a retail store and I had an older black man come in right at closing time. I politely informed him we were closing and he told me I was wrong and that we didnt close for another hour. He then asked me what do you have to fear from me? I told him I didnt fear him but we needed to close the store. He pulled out his wallet and gave me the old I make more money in a day than you make in a week line.

Ultimately, we let him slowly shop for his items and rang him up about 15 minutes past closing. He then demanded we call him a cab to go home. Its scary to think that in these times I could have been fired from my job if we had called the police on him for refusing to leave while black.
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DarkTransient
07/20/18 1:07:21 AM
#106:


KhanJohnny posted...
JE19426 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Those customers were in before closing time


So? Kick them out at closing time, or stay open. Pick one, don't try to pick both.

It's not "trying to pick both". It's a fairly common practice to not let anyone in past closing time, but to serve those who already entered the store. My supermarket does this all the time.

Don't bother with him. He's basically pulling the "well fine they're not racist, but I need something to criticise them for instead of admitting I was wrong, anything will do" line at this point.
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Bad_Mojo
07/20/18 1:12:19 AM
#107:


And yet nobody believes me when I saw this shit happens all the time here
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shnangyboos
07/20/18 1:21:45 AM
#108:


Isn't the woman like one of these professional activists?
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ProfDE
07/20/18 1:30:35 AM
#109:


I'd say not only sue for wrongful termination on the restaurant, but also sue the customer who claimed they were refused service based on race when it clearly wasn't.
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Rimmer_Dall
07/20/18 1:35:15 AM
#110:


shnangyboos posted...
Isn't the woman like one of these professional activists?

Yep.

[...]a black woman named Lillian, who is well known in the area as a professional equity activist,[...]


Literally a professional race baiter.
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Manocheese
07/20/18 1:40:43 AM
#111:


The black woman in question, Lillian Green, works as an "equity activist" for the Oregon department of education.

So Oregon tax dollars are being used to pay people to be professional SJWs.
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muchdran
07/20/18 1:44:09 AM
#112:


Manocheese posted...
The black woman in question, Lillian Green, works as an "equity activist" for the Oregon department of education.

So Oregon tax dollars are being used to pay people to be professional SJWs.

You think California is bad, come to Portland.
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JE19426
07/20/18 1:48:57 AM
#113:


DarkTransient posted...
Don't bother with him. He's basically pulling the "well fine they're not racist, but I need something to criticise them for instead of admitting I was wrong, anything will do" line at this point.


Lmao. What the hell are you even on about? I never even said they were racist in the first place?
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TrevorBlack79
07/20/18 9:14:38 AM
#114:


JE19426 posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
It's time for you to put up or shut up. Explain why you believe this standard practice across the entire service industry is wrong.


Because it allows cases like the one in the OP to happen, duh. Did I really need to spell that out to you?


So businesses shouldn't enforce their posted closing times because some race-baiting cow might lie about why they were refused service?
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darkjedilink
07/20/18 9:33:36 AM
#115:


JE19426 posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Don't bother with him. He's basically pulling the "well fine they're not racist, but I need something to criticise them for instead of admitting I was wrong, anything will do" line at this point.

Lmao. What the hell are you even on about? I never even said they were racist in the first place?

If you weren't trying to argue they were racist before you knew everything, then why are you being so obtuse?
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JE19426
07/20/18 10:11:50 AM
#116:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
So businesses shouldn't enforce their posted closing times because some race-baiting cow might lie about why they were refused service?


Correct, unless they want that to happen.

darkjedilink posted...
If you weren't trying to argue they were racist before you knew everything, then why are you being so obtuse?


I'm not being obtuse. Furthermore I'm not sure what you mean by "before you knew everything".
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mistalightbulb
07/20/18 10:14:03 AM
#117:


JE19426 posted...
If it's the case I'm thinking of, they were still serving customers. If you are serving customers, you aren't closed.

Not true. You need to lock the doors at some point
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JE19426
07/20/18 10:16:44 AM
#118:


mistalightbulb posted...
Not true. You need to lock the doors at some point


I don't get what you trying to suggest. Are you suggesting you lock people in?
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_Goggalor_
07/20/18 10:18:43 AM
#119:


JE19426 posted...
mistalightbulb posted...
Not true. You need to lock the doors at some point


I don't get what you trying to suggest. Are you suggesting you lock people in?


Yes. It's a thing.
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darkjedilink
07/20/18 10:18:51 AM
#120:


JE19426 posted...
mistalightbulb posted...
Not true. You need to lock the doors at some point


I don't get what you trying to suggest. Are you suggesting you lock people in?

Yes. Like every business on the planet does.

You lock the doors, and explain to the customers in the store that the store is closed. When they leave, you open the door for them to allow them to leave.
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 10:20:48 AM
#121:


JE19426 posted...
If it's the case I'm thinking of, they were still serving customers. If you are serving customers, you aren't closed.


Not how it works. You can stop letting peopke in but still serve the people already in the que after closing time.
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 10:21:59 AM
#122:


JE19426 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Those customers were in before closing time


So? Kick them out at closing time, or stay open. Pick one, don't try to pick both.


You have never worked any form of retail at close have you?
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Sphyx
07/20/18 10:23:35 AM
#123:


KhanJohnny posted...
As a minority, it is absolutely deranged to think you deserve service after closing time just because you are black.

Do you think the majority has a monopoly on having assholes among their ranks?
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JE19426
07/20/18 10:23:46 AM
#124:


darkjedilink posted...
Yes. Like every business on the planet does.


Not this business apparently, since at least three customers got in after closing.
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VectorChaos
07/20/18 10:32:20 AM
#125:


JE19426 posted...

Fuck's sake man just take the L

And fucking go outside more since this incredibly simple concept and industry standard practice seems so alien to you

Literally everyone gets it but you
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JE19426
07/20/18 10:34:09 AM
#126:


VectorChaos posted...
Fuck's sake man just take the L


1/10. Try harder next time.
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 10:35:31 AM
#127:


JE19426 posted...
VectorChaos posted...
Fuck's sake man just take the L


1/10. Try harder next time.


That's a fair assesment of you in this topic and your failure at grasping basic service practice even after multiple peopke have explained it to you.
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_RETS_
07/20/18 10:35:39 AM
#128:


JE19426 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Yes. Like every business on the planet does.


Not this business apparently, since at least three customers got in after closing.


A lot of retail stores, but pretty much ALL restaurants operate this same way. You are either being stubborn or are an idiot. The former is easier to fix so just admit to it, improve yourself, and then you can avoid making yourself look like a fool in the future and everyone wins.
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JE19426
07/20/18 10:37:17 AM
#129:


spikethedevil posted...
That's a fair assesment of you in this topic and your failure at grasping basic service practice even after multiple peopke have explained it to you.


Nah, I grasp the business practice, I just recongise that it's a bad one and leads to results like the ones in OP.

_RETS_ posted...
A lot of retail stores, but pretty much ALL restaurants operate this same way.


Such as?
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 10:39:39 AM
#130:


JE19426 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
That's a fair assesment of you in this topic and your failure at grasping basic service practice even after multiple peopke have explained it to you.


Nah, I grasp the business practice, I just recongise that it's a bad one and leads to results like the ones in OP.

_RETS_ posted...
A lot of retail stores, but pretty much ALL restaurants operate this same way.


Such as?


Um pretty much all of them. Also the doors staying unlocked is also incase of fire and people have to leave quickly.
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JE19426
07/20/18 10:41:02 AM
#131:


spikethedevil posted...
Um pretty much all of them. Also the doors staying unlocked is also incase of fire and people have to leave quickly.


So which is it?

Pretty much all businesses lock the customers in.

Or

Pretty much all businesses leave the door unlocked due to fire risks.
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 10:42:53 AM
#132:


Pretty much all buisinesses leave the doors unlock and just have someone say sorry were closed.
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JE19426
07/20/18 10:44:21 AM
#133:


spikethedevil posted...
Pretty much all buisinesses leave the doors unlock and just have someone say sorry were closed.


You do realise darkjedilink said businesses lock customers inside, right?
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marc55
07/20/18 10:45:59 AM
#134:


_RETS_ posted...
JE19426 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Yes. Like every business on the planet does.


Not this business apparently, since at least three customers got in after closing.


A lot of retail stores, but pretty much ALL restaurants operate this same way. You are either being stubborn or are an idiot. The former is easier to fix so just admit to it, improve yourself, and then you can avoid making yourself look like a fool in the future and everyone wins.

hes trolling....is not hard to notice after reading the first page of this topic
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TrevorBlack79
07/20/18 10:47:31 AM
#135:


JE19426 posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
So businesses shouldn't enforce their posted closing times because some race-baiting cow might lie about why they were refused service?


Correct, unless they want that to happen.


Well then, you're just wrong.
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JE19426
07/20/18 10:47:49 AM
#136:


marc55 posted...
hes trolling....is not hard to notice after reading the first page of this topic


Ah yes, the old "if you disagree with us you are trolling".

TrevorBlack79 posted...
Well then, you're just wrong.


Really, so the OP is lying about what happened?
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TrevorBlack79
07/20/18 10:52:53 AM
#137:


JE19426 posted...
Really, so the OP is lying about what happened?


No, you're just pretending to be stupid. Or maybe you're not pretending, but I prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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_RETS_
07/20/18 10:53:09 AM
#138:


JE19426 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
That's a fair assesment of you in this topic and your failure at grasping basic service practice even after multiple peopke have explained it to you.


Nah, I grasp the business practice, I just recongise that it's a bad one and leads to results like the ones in OP.

_RETS_ posted...
A lot of retail stores, but pretty much ALL restaurants operate this same way.


Such as?


Such as pretty much every restaurant. But you can't be this dumb, so I'll let everyone else try to un-stupid you
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JE19426
07/20/18 10:56:20 AM
#139:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
No, you're just pretending to be stupid. Or maybe you're not pretending, but I prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt.


You obviously didn't read the OP if you think the bakery didn't experience an internet hate campaign.

_RETS_ posted...
Such as pretty much every restaurant.


Name some.
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Lorenzo_2003
07/20/18 11:05:50 AM
#141:


If he really is not trolling, then I dont think he has worked anywhere, or at least no standard places of business. Ive worked at and seen more than a few shops lock their customers in, but only until they are ready to leave and only to prevent asshats from clumsily getting in after hours. Many other places wont risk locking the doors because of safety concerns, but theyll station someone at the door or at least have their employees monitor it. This isnt uncommon. Maybe JE19426 is just a minor.
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JE19426
07/20/18 11:10:34 AM
#142:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
If he really is not trolling, then I dont think he has worked anywhere, or at least no standard places of business. Ive worked at and seen more than a few shops lock their customers in, but only until they are ready to leave and only to prevent asshats from clumsily getting in after hours. Many other places wont risk locking the doors because of safety concerns, but theyll station someone at the door or at least have their employees monitor it. This isnt uncommon. Maybe JE19426 is just a minor.


Can you give some examples of places that lock customers in?
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TrevorBlack79
07/20/18 12:11:10 PM
#143:


JE19426 posted...
Can you give some examples of places that lock customers in?


Restaurants I've worked at that did this:

Taco Bell
Fazoli's
Subway
Quiznos
Firehouse Subs

Incidentally, this is literally every restaurant job I've held in my life. There are none that I worked where this wasn't the practice.

it should also be noted, with one exception all of these restaurants had push bar doors that you could exit through when they were locked. The customers aren't actually locked in, but people outside are locked out.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/20/18 12:17:32 PM
#144:


JE19426 posted...
If it's the case I'm thinking of, they were still serving customers. If you are serving customers, you aren't closed.

Yah, that's not how it works.
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JE19426
07/20/18 12:17:47 PM
#145:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
it should also be noted, with one exception all of these restaurants had push bar doors that you could exit through when they were locked. The customers aren't actually locked in, but people outside are locked out.


I guess I can understand it, in those cases.
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 1:45:53 PM
#146:


I have only worked retail and we leave the doors unlocked till everyone is out just politely tell people we're closed which was the same at all my jobs.
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darkjedilink
07/20/18 2:02:04 PM
#147:


spikethedevil posted...
I have only worked retail and we leave the doors unlocked till everyone is out just politely tell people we're closed which was the same at all my jobs.

I've never heard of a retail joint that did this. It's a massive security risk that their insurers doubtless warned them about.
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 4:37:41 PM
#148:


How is it an insurance risk? We lock the doors once all the customers are out.
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dave_is_slick
07/20/18 4:54:07 PM
#149:


JE19426 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
I hope this is some kind of lame trolling shtick


Nope.

Then you're fucking dense as hell.
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dave_is_slick
07/20/18 4:57:45 PM
#150:


LedZeppelin posted...
because blacks are so quick to play the race card

Wow
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