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Topic | Pharma exec says he had 'moral requirement' to raise drug price 400% |
legendary_zell 09/11/18 8:54:10 PM #54 | silentwing26x posted... treewojima posted...silentwing26x posted...Paper_Okami posted...silentwing26x At what point do we acknowledge that in a system where money is speech and money buys access, platforms, legitimacy, and influence this is gonna inevitably happen? Any system that allows the wealthy to have such outsized influence is going to end up this way, so it sounds like a pretty inevitable consequence of our form of capitalism, or at least one that would require a lot to separate out. This defense sounds a lot like the "it wasn't true" socialism defense that comes up after a self-proclaimed socialist country fails. --- |
Topic | When it comes to the black community, why do the issues white people feel ok |
legendary_zell 09/11/18 8:48:34 PM #116 | silentwing26x posted... ShinyMuffin posted...silentwing26x posted...Not really. Most people don't inherit any wealth, and rich families lose most of their money by the 3rd generation that inherited any. As long as your grandparents and parents reproduced and didn't royally fuck up, you're basically on the same footing as everyone else. You weren't associated with all the negative stereotypes associated with black males your age. You weren't a victim of race related discrimination in housing, employment, education, policing, etc. You weren't stuck in a racially segregated housing project as a person trapped in inter-generational, race related property, surrounded by others in the same situation. Your parents were not limited by pre-existing racism and started over when they came here, which counts for a lot (I attribute my personal success to this factor as an immigrant and child of immigrants) etc. None of this is to minimize your accomplishments. You're clearly an intelligent guy who probably works significantly harder than average. But to say a black man your age wouldn't likely face numerous challenges based on race that didn't...that's unlikely. Especially since I think you mentioned living in the Chicago area in the past. --- |
Topic | When it comes to the black community, why do the issues white people feel ok |
legendary_zell 09/11/18 7:58:05 PM #109 | 3rd_Best_Master posted... Hinakuluiau posted...The fact is that for many black people, the civil rights era is not history. They grew up with grandparents who lived through it. Grandparents who did not have nearly the same opportunities that white people had in the 50s and 60s. And for some reason they can't seem to grasp that your grandparents success has an effect on how successful you are. This is a very very key thing that people don't realize or act upon. That's why many people default to talking about slavery as the clock for when black people have been free and equal. They are slowly worked down from slavery, to Jim Crow, to the early 70s, to just defaulting to personal responsibility rhetoric as an excuse not to see what is still going on and to discount the effect of the past on the present. --- |
Topic | Pharma exec says he had 'moral requirement' to raise drug price 400% |
legendary_zell 09/11/18 7:54:58 PM #15 | This is the logical extreme or conclusion of shareholder driven capitalism. Profit is confused with and substituted for morality. --- |
Topic | Chicken shit Romano Fenati grabs opponents brake lever during race |
legendary_zell 09/11/18 6:38:09 PM #10 | If the other guy had worse balance, the perpetrator is in jail for attempted murder. It's interesting how much insulation against backlash people have when life threatening actions that are outside the bounds of the sport take place. If you did this to some guy on the road, you'd go to jail. --- |
Topic | Racist comic of Serena Williams published in Herald Sun |
legendary_zell 09/10/18 7:48:16 PM #283 | RoboLaserGandhi posted... MEGAze posted...RoboLaserGandhi posted...That's called a caricature and it's not racist just because it's a black person Because the umpire is talking to her like she is the opposing player, asking her to let Serena win, and the blonde is on the opposite side of the net, with a racket in her hand, talking to the umpire....wtf? Why would a bystander be on the court, in tennis clothes, with a tennis racket, talking to the ref? --- |
Topic | It's silly not to carry a gun |
legendary_zell 09/10/18 7:37:42 PM #56 | Crazyman93 posted... ChainedRedone posted...And I'm not even a gun nut. This is a bad statistic to bring up. It claims people with a gun are more likely to be a victim of homicide. No shit. They probably have a gun because they have a legitimate fear of being shot, hence it is more likely to happen. I don't think this is actually true. Different methods of suicide are more likely to happen for different people and are more or less likely to be fatal than others. AFAIK, suicide attempts are often relatively spur of the moment decisions, so ease of method is a bad thing. The more time to think about it, the more chances not to do it. Men are more likely to use guns to attempt suicide and guns are easier to use on the spur of the moment and more likely to be immediately fatal. So all else being equal, guns lead to more attempts and more deaths. --- |
Topic | Racist comic of Serena Williams published in Herald Sun |
legendary_zell 09/10/18 7:29:19 PM #274 | Holy crap, I finally got home and looked at the picture....anyone defending this by saying "that's what she looks like tho" is a racist that needs to get their eyes checked. Point blank, period. And I don't throw direct accusations out like that cheaply. --- |
Topic | it really is true that progressives lean too hard into 'identity politics' imo |
legendary_zell 09/10/18 5:43:10 PM #38 | Balrog0 posted... legendary_zell posted...He ran an exclusionary, divisive, race based campaign that essentially divided the country into whites vs everyone else, which is exactly what was reflected in voting totals as well. He was a well known celebrity running against a person that the right and left wing media had been working to make very unpopular. It doesn't change the fact that he ran a heavily identity based campaign, and won even educated whites. And racial resentment was one of the best predictors of a Trump voter, along with authoritarianism, the type of authoritarianism he directed at minorities. --- |
Topic | it really is true that progressives lean too hard into 'identity politics' imo |
legendary_zell 09/10/18 5:34:38 PM #28 | As for the TC's actual point, yeah people go too far with it sometimes. But I think it's a consequence/backlash effect of all the exclusion, bigotry, and thoughtlessness that has existed up until very recently. People are actively thinking about what they're saying and trying to interrogate the implications of what they say, and it's hard to strike the right balance on that. We saw what things were like when this process doesn't happen, and we continue to see what it's like when it doesn't happen, and its significantly worse imo. --- |
Topic | it really is true that progressives lean too hard into 'identity politics' imo |
legendary_zell 09/10/18 5:31:02 PM #23 | s0nicfan posted... Honestly I think identity politics is one of the biggest things that hurt dems in 2016. Hillary was so clearly focused on dividing up people into buckets that when she would make promises to each group it just came off as pandering. It was "the black vote" and "the hispanic vote" and "the LGBT vote", etc. etc. As much as people may hate Trump, he did some stellar things as part of his campaign and one of them was talking about "the voters" or "american citizens". He ran an exclusionary, divisive, race based campaign that essentially divided the country into whites vs everyone else, which is exactly what was reflected in voting totals as well. --- |
Topic | Do different races have different natural scents? |
legendary_zell 09/10/18 2:49:53 PM #6 | Well I know that people without exposure to dairy say that people who eat dairy smell sour. It's almost certainly that and not anything inherent to ethnicities or skin colors and not natural in that sense. --- |
Topic | why does every shooter need a battle royale mode now? |
legendary_zell 09/08/18 12:35:32 PM #10 | |
Topic | Mac Miller dead |
legendary_zell 09/07/18 5:15:31 PM #54 | Letron_James posted... dave_is_slick posted...EliteLevel posted...legendary_zell posted...EliteLevel posted...Junkies die all the time. Why do people only care when the junkies are famous? Exactly why I haven't responded. He wasn't worth acknowledging the first time. --- |
Topic | Mac Miller dead |
legendary_zell 09/07/18 4:57:04 PM #39 | ImNotAnIdiot posted... I see a lot of the headlines saying, "Ariana's Ex Mac Miller has died" I saw this too. Really messed up because it's priming people to blame her and ignoring that he was a pretty damn big artist on his own. It's framing purely to disrespect and cause conflict for clicks. --- |
Topic | Mac Miller dead |
legendary_zell 09/07/18 4:55:31 PM #37 | EliteLevel posted... Junkies die all the time. Why do people only care when the junkies are famous? Attitudes like this contribute heavily to people with substance abuse issues deaths. This edge is counterproductive and embarrassing. --- |
Topic | Mac Miller dead |
legendary_zell 09/07/18 4:42:44 PM #21 | Damn, that's crazy. Drugs are no joke at all. That's so sad that he probably started doing them for fun a decade ago and now they've killed him in his prime. --- |
Topic | Brazilian presidential front-runner stabbed at rally |
legendary_zell 09/07/18 4:15:58 PM #11 | He shouldn't have been stabbed. That's terrible and anti democratic, not to mention attempted murder. At the same time, he shouldn't be legitimized and his ideas shouldn't be accepted or sanitized. He's a huge POS with disastrous policies and rhetoric. --- |
Topic | Tesla shares plummet as key execs resign after Musk smoked marijuana |
legendary_zell 09/07/18 3:53:08 PM #7 | hockeybub89 posted... I mean, fuck Elon Musk, but this is lol-worthy. Imagine being such prudes. KStateKing17 posted... I figured it would be because of the pedo nonsense. No it's because of weed lol. People and their priorities. --- |
Topic | I'm all seriousness, Trump is clearly a madman. |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 8:31:31 PM #30 | DarkTransient posted... DifferentialEquation posted...thronedfire2 posted...It's bizarre that people thought he could lead a country We're talking about the President being fundamentally unfit for his job, possibly enduring a soft coup and you're harping about the stock market? The President has much less effect on the economy than most people think according to actual economists. Clinton didn't cause the 90s boom and Trump isn't causing this one. Trump hasn't blown up the economy (he'd already be out on his ass if he did most likely) but that doesn't mean he's been a good or even a competent President. --- |
Topic | Anonymous high-ranking White House official writes Op-Ed about undermining Trump |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 8:05:15 PM #76 | Now there's speculation that it's Larry Kudlow, Trump's Director of the National Economic Council due to his focus on trade, use of lodestar, first principles, and hyphens. That would be less interesting than Pence, but it also makes sense as someone hyper-establishment. --- |
Topic | Anonymous high-ranking White House official writes Op-Ed about undermining Trump |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 5:46:14 PM #34 | EternalDivide posted... The media is doing more each day to undermine their own credibility than Trump could ever do to them. Your brain is Trump's science fair project. They've made you deny reality reflexively as fake news. Embarrassing. --- |
Topic | Anonymous high-ranking White House official writes Op-Ed about undermining Trump |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 5:38:33 PM #30 | Trump has already basically acknowledged that this report is true and has called the author a coward anders demanded that he resign. --- |
Topic | Anonymous high-ranking White House official writes Op-Ed about undermining Trump |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 5:29:24 PM #20 | DarkTransient posted... Bullet_Wing posted...The Admiral posted...This is probably some college intern. Don't buy the "high ranking" part at all.The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here. Wtf do you think journalism is? You've bought way too much into right wing rhetoric over the years calling them biased and fake news. The NYT is one of the more trustworthy organizations in journalism currently and historically, even if they aren't perfect. They are outright stating they were contacted by a senior official and swore to secrecy to get this statement. No legitimate organization could make that up without risking going out of business once it was discovered that it was a lie. Unless you think the NYT is worse than a school newspaper ethically, this isn't a rational view to have. --- |
Topic | I forgot to ask for my fried rice without onions:( |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 4:16:21 PM #10 | |
Topic | Why do dems keep trying to tag Kavanaugh on Roe v Wade? |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 2:47:26 PM #14 | So what's the issue again? It sounds like you understand the causes for concern. He's a right wing judge with an unclear view who is probably not very pro choice and may be given the power to overturn Roe. What could be more of a cause for concern, other than him outright stating his opposition, which won't happen because it would be suicidal and not because it doesn't exist? --- |
Topic | Why do dems keep trying to tag Kavanaugh on Roe v Wade? |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 1:19:18 PM #12 | s0nicfan posted... legendary_zell posted...Simply stating that it's precedent doesn't bind a Supreme Court Justice. That's a boilerplate answer that simply throws people off the trail. Roe is only binding on lower courts and the legislature, not the Supreme Court and he would have the power to set women back decades with a bad ruling on abortion. He's sidestepping giving an actual meaningful answer because he has to since an actual yes or no on a relevant question would be prejudging cases and would torpedo his nomination because half the country would consider him DOA either way. It's not about conning anyone. It's about the fundamentally different roles of a district/circuit judge and a Supreme Court Judge. He wouldn't even be in this position if he had ruled in ways that directly undermined Roe. A Supreme Court Justice has a quasi legislative position in that they can completely ignore what every other court has ever said on a constitutional issue, including previous supreme courts. A circuit judge that does that will simply be overturned and suffer damage to his reputation. His decisions under existing law say nothing about whether or not he thinks the precedent itself is a good idea and that's his role on the court. That's why Supreme Court appointments have become increasingly political. They are no longer limited by precedent if they don't want to be. Do you really think Kavanaugh is some crusader for abortion rights that would preserve them even in a vacuum? Because that's what ultimately matters here. --- |
Topic | Why do dems keep trying to tag Kavanaugh on Roe v Wade? |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 12:55:18 PM #7 | Simply stating that it's precedent doesn't bind a Supreme Court Justice. That's a boilerplate answer that simply throws people off the trail. Roe is only binding on lower courts and the legislature, not the Supreme Court and he would have the power to set women back decades with a bad ruling on abortion. He's sidestepping giving an actual meaningful answer because he has to since an actual yes or no on a relevant question would be prejudging cases and would torpedo his nomination because half the country would consider him DOA either way. Furthermore, he's a Heritage and Federalist Society approved judge and the single biggest goal of conservative judicial activism is getting rid of Roe. That's why. It's quite reasonable on their part. --- |
Topic | This is latest "victim" campaign in New York City |
legendary_zell 09/05/18 11:44:32 AM #101 | You are simply triggered by the word victim. It tears you up when someone says something is unfair and speaks up about it. Everyone should just accept everything the way it is and proclaim that everything is fine and they're not being harmed at all. Otherwise, they are scum. --- |
Topic | This is latest "victim" campaign in New York City |
legendary_zell 09/04/18 7:29:18 PM #15 | This is a strange example of a "victim" campaign since these people had decisions made for them at a young age that they find distressing, possibly for good reason. I would have thought having your peepee cut against your will was enough to be a legitimate victim, but what do I know??? --- |
Topic | Trump: Dems are mean and will say anything to inflict pain and embarrassment |
legendary_zell 09/04/18 5:17:51 PM #13 | s0nicfan posted... I'm sure no dems will say anything mean or angry in this topic, though. What should the response be to this type of blatant hypocrisy? Loving adoration? I thought PC culture and sugar coating things was bad? How about we ridicule those worthy of ridicule. And this president and those that enable him or rely on him for elevation are certainly worthy of ridicule. --- |
Topic | Do you consider Donald Trump to be a moron? |
legendary_zell 09/04/18 12:12:06 PM #4 | Bullet_Wing posted... Even more so after today's revelations from Woodwards book. Stuff likeWhite House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly frequently lost his temper and told colleagues that he thought the president was unhinged, Woodward writes. Trump attorney Jay Sekulow told Woodward that when the President was "fixing to rant," he would often distract Trump by tickling his cheek to "trigger the rooting reflex, which invariably [calmed] him down." --- |
Topic | 'Your salad is rayciss' - HuffPo Article |
legendary_zell 09/03/18 10:18:05 PM #2 | I don't see any inaccuracies in what you posted. That is the perception. And that perception isn't presented as a good thing. --- |
Topic | Penn GOP official forced to resign after calling NFL players 'baboons' |
legendary_zell 09/03/18 8:25:15 PM #39 | This person is not an outlier. This whole kneeling situation has become an outlet for people to express feelings like this, many just manage to phrase it with less blatant racial resentment. That's why whenever Trump is getting destroyed for something corrupt or stupid he does, he stokes racial resentment by pivoting back to kneeling. This is where the base of the GOP is. --- |
Topic | why are liberals so triggered by sex dolls and sex bots |
legendary_zell 08/31/18 10:28:37 AM #19 | My understanding is that it's not about the treatment of the bots specifically. Some of it is an extension of the general attitude toys, they're generally considered a cause for embarrassment and ridicule. But I think what you're getting at is the concern that it's perpetuating a harmful view of sexuality and of women that could keep that view alive or spread from the treatment of the dolls to the treatment of women. I don't think that's entirely unfounded. When this topic comes up here, people breathlessly talk about how they won't have to deal with feminism, emotions, opinions, desires, resistance, they'll just have a female form that's won't say no. That does imply a certain view about what about women is valuable. --- |
Topic | Going to a socialist picnic Saturday |
legendary_zell 08/30/18 9:38:07 PM #6 | |
Topic | Incels: Why not bang a fat chick? |
legendary_zell 08/30/18 6:40:08 PM #53 | |
Topic | Maybe I don't get conservative humor...but how is this attack ad effective |
legendary_zell 08/30/18 11:23:47 AM #10 | Does the Texas GOP really wanna play the "bring up old pictures" game? When Ted Cruz, the zodiac killer/Mr. Skin Mask himself is involved? The picture seems designed to generate homo/trans/other phobia since he's in what could be described as a dress. I think it'll just continue to highlight that Beto is and always has been a cool person that people want to be around. --- |
Topic | Most heroic fictional character? |
legendary_zell 08/29/18 11:52:11 PM #13 | Zikten posted... I remember someone told me there is a JRPG where the point of the game is to change reality and rescue the world but in the process your character ends up being erased from existence at the end cause you altered the universe and you no longer exist due to a paradox This almost happens in --- |
Topic | Elon Musk is doubling down on the pedo accusations |
legendary_zell 08/29/18 7:55:38 PM #45 | I hope he gets a billion dollar libel judgment against him. Well adjusted human beings don't do stuff like this and he is clearly not used to consequences for his actions. --- |
Topic | Dotard: When you see "anonymous source," stop reading! |
legendary_zell 08/29/18 8:52:31 AM #3 | This dude is so dangerous to our democracy and any sense of independent truth. Anonymous sources have always been used and have always been validated. He just wants to discredit anyone who could speak out against him and be believed. --- |
Topic | Reducing online echo chambers may actually increase political polarization. |
legendary_zell 08/28/18 6:24:10 PM #2 | Conservatives have an extremely effective media that builds a world view that's impenetrable so trying to have dialogue is difficult because they are reasoning based on different building blocks. What non conservative talk about sounds like insanity to them. And liberals just end up feeling exhausted and exasperated and cling to their ideals that they try to communicate. I've seen it happen a trillion times on this board alone. --- |
Topic | Crunchyroll boycott get woke go broke |
legendary_zell 08/28/18 8:39:25 AM #96 | Esrac posted... Zonbei posted...The complete lack of self awareness and the general disgusting behavior displayed by some people in this topic would be funny if it werent so sad. This dude is a perfect example of what I mean. There's no need for any of this toxicity, just don't watch the show man. You don't need to be such a stereotype yourself. You wouldn't act like this in real life or say that to her face would you? --- |
Topic | Crunchyroll boycott get woke go broke |
legendary_zell 08/28/18 8:36:46 AM #95 | This seems like gamergate all over again in that when called out about how insane they're acting, people claim it's about ethics in video game journalism/the quality of the player. If that's the case, why are most posters attacking the writers personal appearance, taking freeze frames of the creators, ranting about SJWs etc? This is just another instance of anime fans/gamers being polemical and exclusionary towards things not made specifically by/for them and not embodying their politics. --- |
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