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Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 6:39:34 PM #194	Uncle Choad posted... So do we protest for or against the police now? Instructions please. Call your representative and ask them to make an amendment to the constitution requiring police to protect and serve. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Net Neutrality Repeal: The Internet Apocalypse That Never Came
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 6:37:34 PM #34	Space_Man posted... what's the point of net neutrality, anyway? Can someone explain So ISPs treat internet traffic as neutral by not throttling traffic. It prevents them from killing competition. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 6:33:22 PM #191	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Yet the expert says he could be liable. If he was negligent. The key part being if. He never said if. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Universal Basic Income is the future
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 6:31:50 PM #22	REMercsChamp posted... automation REMercsChamp posted... Universal basic income It's a necessity with automation or we'll be all starving to death while oligarchs are waited on by machines. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 6:24:36 PM #188	JE19426 posted... If Peterson was doing what he was told he wouldn't be negligent. Yet the expert says he could be liable. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	In 2020 we need a president with the guts to do the following and modernize us
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 6:22:47 PM #17	Webmaster4531 posted... REMercsChamp posted... automation REMercsChamp posted... Universal basic income It's a necessity with automation or we'll be all starving to death while oligarchs are waited on by machines. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Net Neutrality Repeal: The Internet Apocalypse That Never Came
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 6:21:58 PM #29	https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/sorry-fcc-charter-will-lower-investment-after-net-neutrality-repeal/ --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Net Neutrality Repeal: The Internet Apocalypse That Never Came
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 5:41:24 PM #6	Fee.org ? Sounds like it costs money. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Do trans girls poop?
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 5:40:11 PM #9	King Rial posted... Not pooping is how Trans girls know they are really girls. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Liberal cities (again) top the list of highest growing cities by GDP
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 5:34:17 PM #28	Godnorgosh posted... I mean, San Francisco and NYC are nice unless you're the one living in a tent. They have a homeless problem because living in a tent is nice too. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 5:22:41 PM #181	darkjedilink posted... P4wn4g3 posted... Tmaster148 posted... I mean. If cops don't have to protect people then what's the point in paying for them with our taxes. Seems like wasteful spending. They don't. And I agree with the sentiment wholeheartedly. They respond to crimes, they don't intervene. Unfortunately we don't have much in the way of alternatives. We most certainly do - it's called the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America. That only works until the cops shoot you. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 5:19:43 PM #179	Guess, I have to ask how again. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	My huge dog destroyer all of his balls with his teeth. I need a stronger ball
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 5:14:26 PM #5	Sorry, they're attached to me. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	is it ok to talk about punching Obama now?
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 4:55:22 PM #8	This reminds me when conservatives circle jerked the idea of running over protestors on Gamefaqs and they weren't moderated. Glad they can't anymore. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 4:36:14 PM #176	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Took me a while to see your misunderstanding I'm not saying that "They couldn't support liability for Peterson" is a nonsequitur to "If the assertions aren't true." So what is my nonsequitur. Your previous statement said "Because he's saying the assertions could support liability for Peterson." Before "If the assertions aren't true they couldn't support liability for Peterson." Still have no idea what you're trying to say What part of those statements are confusing you? They seem pretty clear to me. It's doesn't prove that I said Hutchinson said the statements are definitely true. He said they could be true that Peterson is liable. He'd say it was impossible if it was impossible. Peterson being liable would be impossible if Peterson was doing what he was supposed to. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 3:44:47 PM #165	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... How? Because you are trying to say that this is a nonsequitur: If the assertions aren't true they couldn't support liability for Peterson. While also saying that an assertion that isn't true can't support anything. Those are two statements contradict each other. Took me a while to see your misunderstanding I'm not saying that "They couldn't support liability for Peterson" is a nonsequitur to "If the assertions aren't true." Your previous statement said "Because he's saying the assertions could support liability for Peterson." Before "If the assertions aren't true they couldn't support liability for Peterson." Still have no idea what you're trying to say --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 3:20:54 PM #163	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Yes, your sentence really is a nonsequitur. Answer to the second question is no. You are contradicting yourself right here. How? --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 3:17:52 PM #160	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... The second sentence is a nonsequitur. Really? You think an assertation that isn't true can support anything? Yes, your sentence really is a nonsequitur. Answer to the second question is no. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 3:08:54 PM #158	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Could you rephrase that? Why? What part is unclear? The first sentence is just a paraphrasing of the quote. The second sentence is a nonsequitur. None of it explains how I might somehow think he thinks this is definitely true. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 3:03:01 PM #156	JE19426 posted... Becaause he's saying the assertions could could support liability for Peterson. If the assertions aren't true they couldn't support liability for Peterson. Could you rephrase that? --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:58:24 PM #151	eston posted... I think I'm gonna just let him be wrong guys. I've done all I could You won't even provide evidence for "common knowledge". Can't be that hard to prove yourself right. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:56:59 PM #150	JE19426 posted... That's the only possible way he could be implying it isn't standard. How? JE19426 posted... It doesn't imply that at all. It does. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:51:07 PM #146	eston posted... Webmaster4531 posted... I'm just saying it implies that this isn't standard. No, it does not Webmaster4531 posted... Feel free to prove yourself right. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:50:20 PM #144	eston posted... Webmaster4531 posted... eston posted... It's common knowledge. I'm not going to track down a source, but feel free to prove me wrong if I'm wrong. You pulled this out of your ass. There is no source. eston posted... feel free to prove me wrong if I'm wrong. Feel free to prove yourself right. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:49:19 PM #142	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... No, I'm not. Hutchinson said "could" in he quote. Which brings us back to "Either of these assertions could support liability for Peterson." I'm just saying it implies that this isn't standard. Nope, he's saying if the prosecutions claim are true, they support Peterson being liable. He isn't saying prosecutions claims are true. I never said he said they're true. Hutchinson said "could" in the quote. Which brings us back to "Either of these assertions could support liability for Peterson." I'm just saying it implies that this isn't standard. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:45:27 PM #138	eston posted... It's common knowledge. I'm not going to track down a source, but feel free to prove me wrong if I'm wrong. You pulled this out of your ass. There is no source. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:42:46 PM #136	DirkDiggles posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Look here we found an expert better than Pete Blair, Oh, much like yourself? Would you blindly charge in? Me being brave or a coward is pretty meaningless. I have no reason to doubt Pete. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:37:07 PM #133	DirkDiggles posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Running into an active shooting at a school is exactly what every random cop is trained to do, and has been standard protocol since Columbine. Then you get situations like this: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/26/us/black-man-killed-alabama-mall-shooting.html It's not what they are trained to do. Their responsibility is to assess the situation and go forward from there, not to make the situation worse. Blindly rushing in just gets more people hurt or killed. Look here we found an expert better than Pete Blair, executive director of the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center at Texas State University and one of the nations top experts on active shooter training. We teach that the first priority when you come on scene is to stop the killing, said Pete Blair, The number one driving force is gunfire. If theres gunfire, we teach the officers to isolate, distract and neutralize. We want people to go directly to the sounds of the gunfire. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:32:44 PM #129	eston posted... Locking the school down is standard pretty much everywhere when there is an active shooter on campus. It's a universal response. You know this how? Also cite your source. eston posted... You are taking this to mean that Hutchinson is saying the lockdown shouldn't have been initiated, which is not what he's saying. No, I'm not. Hutchinson said "could" in he quote. Which brings us back to "Either of these assertions could support liability for Peterson." I'm just saying it implies that this isn't standard. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:16:42 PM #119	eston posted... Webmaster4531 posted... This is pretty asinine. Why would any police officer be trained to do something that would make them liable? They aren't What did you mean here? eston posted... He knew there was an active shooter on campus, which means it gets locked down. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:14:10 PM #115	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... This is pretty asinine. Why would any police officer be trained to do something that would make them liable? They wouldn't be, if they followed their training, they won't be liable. Hutchinson literally said they could be held liable for the lockdown. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:09:41 PM #111	eston posted... Webmaster4531 posted... eston posted... He does not have any particular insight on when it is or is not appropriate to initiate a lockdown Professor of law not knowing about law enforcement. That doesn't make sense especially since they're asking him because he should know. I'm not sure why you think it makes no sense. Law professors are not experts on law enforcement. That is not what they do. They are experts on the laws and statutes themselves, as well as how the courts work, and no doubt there is some overlap in regards to laws that apply to law enforcement, but there is basically no reason to expect a law professor to have any specific knowledge on how school lockdowns work. But regardless of that, he was not making the implication that you claim he was. Stop being so eager to put words in peoples' mouths. This is pretty asinine. Why would any police officer be trained to do something that would make them liable? --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 2:02:19 PM #103	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... He's a professor of law. He works in a school too so he probably advises it's SROs. He works in a total different school from the one the shooting happens in. Being a professor of law doesn't require you to learn thousands of school protocols. Wait how do you know the school's protocol then? Cite your source. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 1:59:06 PM #100	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... He knew that a crossing guard is liable to people crossing. Which is a general rule applied to all crossing guards. It's his job to know school protocol because it's police protocol. Are you seriously telling me you think this one proffesor is expected to know every single schools protocol? If so what have you been taken? He's a professor of law. He works in a school too so he probably advises it's SROs. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 1:52:26 PM #95	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... What? What are you confused about? Darren L. Hutchinson isn't going to know the schools protocol for school shootings, nor is he claiming to do so. He knew that a crossing guard is liable to people crossing. It's his job to know school protocol because it's police protocol. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 1:46:58 PM #92	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Professor of law not knowing about law enforcement. That doesn't make sense especially since they're asking him because he should know. School protocol =/= law enforcement. They are asking the guy what would happened if the claims were true, not whether or not the claims are true. What? --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 1:43:48 PM #88	eston posted... He does not have any particular insight on when it is or is not appropriate to initiate a lockdown Professor of law not knowing about law enforcement. That doesn't make sense especially since they're asking him because he should know. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	In 2020 we need a president with the guts to do the following and modernize us
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 1:35:38 PM #3	REMercsChamp posted... automation REMercsChamp posted... Universal basic income It's a necessity with automation or we'll be all starving to death while oligarchs are waited on by machines. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Do you have a quality dong?
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 1:26:21 PM #10	--- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Remember when Wendy Thomas hired a thin girl to play her on TV?
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 1:20:17 PM #2	Does she own Wendy's? --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 1:13:06 PM #83	eston posted... Hutchinson said the whole thing, but he did not say what you are claiming he said. Break this down for me then. Either of these assertions could support liability for Peterson." eston posted... It's also worth noting that school security protocol doesn't exactly fall under his field of expertise. He is commenting on the legal implications of those arguments. Now it's school protocol? Before you implied it's just what police are trained and supposed to do. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 1:05:28 PM #80	eston posted... Here's the quote: They also argued that he enhanced the risk of death, or injury, by Mr. Cruz by negligently ordering a lockdown, which prevented escape from the building, Mr. Hutchinson said. Either of these assertions could support liability for Peterson. But I would not be surprised if the state case was reversed on appeal. It is very difficult to establish liability in this area of law. He was explaining the argument being used by the lawyers. Who do you think said the last quote? --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 12:56:26 PM #78	eston posted... Webmaster4531 posted... eston posted... He knew there was an active shooter on campus, which means it gets locked down. Why? The article sites it as negligent and not as standard protocol. That was the argument put forth by the lawyers of the people suing. It was not part of the ruling, and I'm honestly not sure how they can argue that it was negligent to lock a school down when there was a confirmed shooter on campus. That is one of the specific scenarios lockdowns exist for. Darren L. Hutchinson said it supports the cop's liability. That implies it's not standard protocol. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 12:37:26 PM #71	eston posted... He knew there was an active shooter on campus, which means it gets locked down. Why? The article sites it as negligent and not as standard protocol. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Judge ruled officers had no duty to protect students in parkland shooting.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 12:26:51 PM #65	Someone try to defend the lockdown order? If he didn't have enough info to try to stop the shooter he doesn't have enough info to lock down the school. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Are you a Nice guy?
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 12:18:42 PM #7	EbonTitanium posted... "Nice guy"? A good person or a push over? Someone who deserves sex. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Are you a Nice guy?
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 12:08:49 PM #4	Of course. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Trans teen claims teacher demanded he 'prove he was a boy' in bathroom
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 12:03:43 PM #6	Antifar posted... Full Throttle, in my experience, has been known to omit or alter details of a story. Yep. --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	Suggest PC, Switch, and 3DS games for me to play
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 11:58:28 AM #7	Bastion --- Ad Hominem.
Topic	I kind of miss coffeebeanz a very slight bit.
Webmaster4531 12/19/18 11:56:31 AM #6	DarthWendy posted... frozenshock posted... @DarkRoast Hold the phone, is this... could it... is it possible that... COFFEEBEANZ alt ?!?! That's her main. --- Ad Hominem.
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