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turbopuns2 posted...

Wasn't han actually like the only person to think igcd was town?

Hes been flip flopping all day.

Also lol at red trying to use timestamps
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Leafeon13N posted...

Ugh dont tell me most of the game vanished on me. I literally caught igcd lurking, he had been for about 15 minutes.

I am trying to feed you guys scum here.

What? I was skimming through the game when ever I got a chance to slip away from the bingo I am working. Try harder next time.
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turbopuns2 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

ScareChan posted...

Give an alternative

Igcd is one for sure at this point.

##unvote
##vote: IGCD

Who will help swing it

Dont do this. I will claim right now because I have 5mins for a smoke. I have been skimming but I want to point out han and red keep calling me scum without even throwing votes it's obvious one or both of them are just trying to get the lynch going because they dont want to get their hands dirty.

I am vanilla. Slide Goo Goo Dolls.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

##Unvote
##Vote:Red

Leaving now so I am not certain I will be on again but I'll try to be.

Talking about potential tack on votes...

Considering my vote has been on him pretty much all day.
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##Unvote
##Vote:Red

Leaving now so I am not certain I will be on again but I'll try to be.
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Bad news, it's looking like I won't be around for deadline. My wife signed up for a bingo shift to help pay for our son's hockey but she injured her back and has sciatic nerve damage, so I offered to work it instead. It runs from 7-11 est. I might be able to sneak away here and there but I likely won't be caught up and will be posting on the fly.
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ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

ColZach posted...

Okay guys. I know eaed is at least true on saying hes jailman. Because night 1 I was bloodthirsty and out for pain, so I took a shot at CORRIK!

Gasp!!!

So Im claiming

INDEPENDENT DJ FLIP HOP!!!!

Jk Im the Town Vig and Im useless now but I know eaed wasnt lying about his role

So what you are saying is that you took your shot, got roleblocked and now no longer have a shot?
##Unvote
##Vote:Panth

No he is saying eaed saved corrik because he tried to shoot him

Oh, yea. I forgot Corrik got jailed.

##Unvote
##Vote:Sultan

Might as well lynch the scum bg.
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ColZach posted...

Okay guys. I know eaed is at least true on saying hes jailman. Because night 1 I was bloodthirsty and out for pain, so I took a shot at CORRIK!

Gasp!!!

So Im claiming

INDEPENDENT DJ FLIP HOP!!!!

Jk Im the Town Vig and Im useless now but I know eaed wasnt lying about his role

So what you are saying is that you took your shot, got roleblocked and now no longer have a shot?
##Unvote
##Vote:Panth
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Less than 1 minute
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Same time claims!!! Get hyped everyone.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

Whoever pointed out the Tange/MZero voting each other thing...is likely onto something.

Honestly what are the odds that with all the power claims and panth and easy safe suspects like red and pj, that Town Tange and Town MZero both try to kill each other, through all the chaos around them?

Han likes MZero and I like Han well enough, plus MZero stands alone whereas Tange followed onto MZero (I think?)

I would guess Tange is Scum and MZero is Town.

Yeah, Tange looked really bad for hopping on the me/MZero kerfuffle, and I would've gone all Ace Attorney on him if it wasn't for IGCD getting me riled up.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also really digging the PJ replace, I feel like Sheep has already added more to the game than PJ did.

Sheep007 posted...

Sure you don't like me just cause I called you town, IGCD mate?

Honestly PJ was one of my scumreads as an observer, although Ben and Red were both stronger ones. I don't feel like my new perspective adds much, since PJ barely interacted with anyone himself (although others commented on him, it was mostly similar stuff. Blah blah inactive blah blah doing nothing, which to fair was basically true. People who I'm reading Town like Puns voted him seemingly out of frustration at times).

This exchange looks kinda like IGCD trying to boost up his new Scummate and that new Scummate trying to keep an arm's separation.

You are really flip flopping on me being scum/town arent you?
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Also really digging the PJ replace, I feel like Sheep has already added more to the game than PJ did.
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76890080
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I didn't grab votals before making this topic, sorry.
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Making a new topic now so we dont have the same issue as last topic.
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Sheep007 posted...

He didn't already claim, Han. I've been reading along, it's PJ, and you all would have made a bigger deal of it if he had. Unless you're counting the miller claim, which I'm sure due to the fact it's PJ you know is bullshit.

He did eventually reaffirm that he is miller, but ...
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turbopuns2 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

Well if red is scum the bottom 6 are all probably guaranteed town

Curious as to the reason for sultan, ben, pj being the only ones out of order

You think if hes scum hes calling all the town town?

What do you mean "all the town"?

I said 6 people. There are 14 town in the game right now.

Sorry I meant you think he is putting all town in his town list?
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turbopuns2 posted...

Well if red is scum the bottom 6 are all probably guaranteed town

Curious as to the reason for sultan, ben, pj being the only ones out of order

You think if hes scum hes calling all the town town?
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@Sheep007 eod is 11pm est today. I'm not sure if you have been following along at all but this topic has some pretty good recaps and I think the last topic does as well. Have fun.
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turbopuns2 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

By the way Puns, what do you think of Red's list?

Can you quote it for me

red13n posted...

Anyway, that is all meta assuming zam is just on all levels the easiest person to read ever.

3. IfGodCouldDie
6. Panthera
7. Mzero11
14. DoubleTangicide
17. Crescent-Moon
18. Edumey

16. HanOfTheNekos
21. htaeD (Death)
1. TheSultanOfSlam
20. Benjamin3740
8. pjbasis

4. ColZach
10. ChaosTonyV4
11. turbopuns2
13. Forceful_Dragon
19. ScareChan
22. Town MVP eaedwards6400

That is how that breaks this down.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

To be clear: telling your fellow players 'fuck you' gets you replaced regardless of anything else. I expect no questions of this. Respect your fellow players.

...Oh.

My thoughts exactly.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Scare: I thought Alakazam was Town and I thought Tony and Zach were Scum.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

DoubleTangicide posted...

I think PJ is a better lynch than me right now

Is there a time you think you'll be the best lynch?

The fact that Tange is saying this reads as someone on the Scumboard saying he needs to step his game up (he even claimed to be Scummoned last night) or else he'd be lynched.

IGCD, I actually do feel like you are inherently linked with Panth's alignment here. Just for me, what alignment do you think Panth is?

I think he is scum, but am ok with letting himself prove otherwise.
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red13n posted...

Anyway, that is all meta assuming zam is just on all levels the easiest person to read ever.

3. IfGodCouldDie
6. Panthera
7. Mzero11
14. DoubleTangicide
17. Crescent-Moon
18. Edumey

16. HanOfTheNekos
21. htaeD (Death)
1. TheSultanOfSlam
20. Benjamin3740
8. pjbasis

4. ColZach
10. ChaosTonyV4
11. turbopuns2
13. Forceful_Dragon
19. ScareChan
22. Town MVP eaedwards6400

That is how that breaks this down.

So you mention absolutely nothing about me, yet I am your top scum read? Sounds about right I. /sarcasm
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ScareChan posted...

ColZach posted...

Town watcher with no flavor attached

Okay Zam Im sorry Ive decided where today is going

HanOfTheNekos posted...

ColZach posted...

I'm sick of B8 Towns being so bad day 1

Guys, let's lynch the claimed Watcher

Another bad Han post

Was this prior to the counter?
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ScareChan posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I find it interesting that both Zach and Tony, the guys I pushed as Scum, are latching onto this "can't be autocorrect, Zam is 100% Scum" line of thought.

bad han

But remember that it was my interactions surrounding Zam that town cleared him.
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DoubleTangicide posted...

I think PJ is a better lynch than me right now

Is there a time you think you'll be the best lynch?
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Panthera posted...

You said Han didn't need your interactions to prove he was town to himself, essentially. Basically means you're saying he should be calling himself town regardless of what anyone else does. I mean unless you want to argue that you actually did slip and tell him he knows for sure he's town because he is. Not seeing what else it could be if it wasn't just pointing out that Han obviously doesn't need to be persuaded of his own alignment.

No I said I was unaware that my interactions led Han to believe he was town. Unless he is just using my interactions to persuade town that he is town, which looks bad anyway.
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##Unvote
##Vote:Panth
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Panthera posted...

That thing from IGCD about Han does not feel like a slip, he was pretty much just saying that Han would obviously already call himself town without anyone else's actions being involved. Sometimes you just don't feel like writing out the whole "I would assume you would pretend to know you're town already scum!" routine on every post, you know? It's null, more a matter of preference in phrasing than alignment. Other, more relevant stuff to focus on from him.

This makes no sense. That's not what I did at all. Definitely cool with lynching Panth then Han at this point to be honest.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

IGCD, you're literally ignoring the context in my response.

How so? You literally listed yourself as someone you thought was more town due to my interactions surrounding Zam?

It was literally a list you wrote. The group of people who looked good due to Zam's implosion.

Uh... what? Please give me the post number where I "literally wrote that list."
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Panthera posted...

IGCD, joking about deriving reads from the deleted post (a thing that's actually against the rules, even if I hope it gets forgiven here) is kind of uncool. Or did you actually mean that seriously?

What is against the rules and why would a joke be uncool in that context?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

IGCD, you're literally ignoring the context in my response.

How so? You literally listed yourself as someone you thought was more town due to my interactions surrounding Zam?
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Well the "ha ha ha" part was super awkward

I'll give you that, I just thought it was a funny perspective slip.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Sounds to me like Han, Zach, plum, and Dumey are all very likely Town.

Ha ha ha. I would assume you know your role, dont know how my interactions are needed to convince you that you are town.

Oooh, context.

Um... It looks like he's just mocking you, actually.

Context, you mean something that he should have included? Which brings me back to...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Scum needs to distort the truth to get mislynches, unfortunately I'm not the best person for you to try and mislynch.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Are han and scare covering up a slip? Find out at end game...

IGCD just went from someone I dislike to an actual scumlean for this post.

did you ignore the post where he said I didn't need his help to convince myself I was Town?

That was just a grammatical error from him and didn't mean anything.

How is that a grammatical error?

Unless I totally misread the post it was simply him using a pronoun that referred to you instead of a pronoun that referred to himself

I'll take a look

It's not a grammatical error, the point of the post is: if Han is town how do my interactions surrounding Zam convince him he is likely town?
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Anyways. I'm going to game out for a bit before bed. I'll check in just before I go to sleep.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Are han and scare covering up a slip? Find out at end game...

IGCD just went from someone I dislike to an actual scumlean for this post.

Yea, ok.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Isn't that a modkill though? Or am I wrong

Honestly it wont be. Two players say it and it sounds like an honest mistake, plus he came out and admitted it right away.
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Are han and scare covering up a slip? Find out at end game...
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@Suprak_the_Stud we need you for post 195.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

ScareChan posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Crescent, who do you like least out of active players. You continue to jump from inactive to inactive.

Depends what you consider inactive. I don't have particularly strong scum reads on any of the active ones.

Tony? Town. Scare? Probably town. Puns? Probably town. Zach? Probably town. Sultan? Leaning town (There's no way he claims BG there unless he's scum and someone on his team told him to) Han? Leaning town. You? Town unless scum is insane. FD is town because Lawyer.

Jumping between the inactives is the single most important thing in this game right now.

We have 5 scum left, and at least 3, but probably 4 of them are in:

3. IfGodCouldDie
7. Mzero11
8. pjbasis
12. Leafeon13N (red13N/Red)
14. DoubleTangicide
18. Edumey
20. Benjamin3740
21. htaeD (Death)

The inactives on this list have to be made to talk or it's a crapshoot. I don't particularly like IGCD, Red, or Tange right now. What they have in common is they make up 5% of the game's activity combined. Sorting out a group like Dumey/Ben/MZero also requires getting them to talk more and taking the opportunity to pressure them. This is a game where I believe most of the scum team is hiding amongst the inactive pile.

4 scum left

There's 5 scum left, out of the 6 we were told. Panthera is probably scum but is certainly not a guarantee. I've never been as "sure" on him as I was on Leo.

There is 4, Zam and Leo are dead. 6 minus 2 is 4.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I would assume you know your role, dont know how my interactions are needed to convince you that you are town.

!!!!!!!!!

IGCD JUST SAID HE KNOWS I'M TOWN

Wow. I'm glad I have my vote on you.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Scum needs to distort the truth to get mislynches, unfortunately I'm not the best person for you to try and mislynch.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Sounds to me like Han, Zach, plum, and Dumey are all very likely Town.

Ha ha ha. I would assume you know your role, dont know how my interactions are needed to convince you that you are town.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

He is really insistent that we don't believe that Zam revealed a bunch of people as Town for his interactions

I'm glad that you intentionally left out the fact that I missed the counterclaim and admitted to do that. Scum needs to distort the truth to get mislynches, unfortunately I'm not the best person for you to try and mislynch. It's also funny that you want to discredit the possibility that he was being bussed by any members of his team.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Even trying to keep suspicion on Tony here!

These are all things that people saw and commented on... I'll be looking for more, but that closes out topic 2.

I was hardly trying to keep suspicions on Tony. It was purely theory crafting. Paranoia induced conspiracy theories are usually my bread and butter in terms of play. Granted they are always wrong but I cant help it.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

But now, IGCD ACTUALLY sides with MZero here. IGCD, who had to inherit Lolo's position, as well as apparently a sinking Scum ship. IGCD, who actually doesn't want to figure out Panth, look at Sultan, etc... thinks that THIS is the best idea for the day.

We have a foundation for a plan for panth and the points brought up about sultan sway me in more of a town direction. So to say I dont care to figure them out is flat out wrong.
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##Unvote
##Vote:Han

I think taking a stance on this fight is probably a good idea for the day.
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pjbasis posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I am unvoting because I feel like I am still on PJ, and I dont like that now he is actually gaining steam as a lynch candidate because of this point.

Can you rephrase?

I was ok with lynching you as an inactive but puns point about burning a possible mislynch early for something that gives us no information is not a good idea.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Man, I was really hoping more people would chime in on me and MZero's chat. Before I reveal the GRAND FINALE, can I get a few more opinions from the peanut gallery on their thoughts on MZero and I?

Zach, I appreciate you reading and commenting on it, but you didn't really say toooo much of consequence. Got any clear idea from it?

Also, I'm sorry, but remind me why we were so eager to buy eaed? Did he block Corrik n1 while Tony was also blocked, or something? I feel like there's a good reason but I can't remember it specifically at the moment.

As far as you and Miz, I would back Miz because he was making effort way before you were and it took him coming after you for you to even make an effort. I dont trust self preservation as much as I trust unsolicited effort.
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Panthera posted...

IGCD has been noted for going under the radar and then promptly continued to go under the radar, and he was oddly defensive earlier when Han called him scum. That kind of caught my eye, would lean to scum on him.

Defensive? I said his lack of reasoning discredits his suspicion.
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turbopuns2 posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Vote PJ. I dont even know why someone signs up for the game if they're going to act this way. To admitting to being lazy because "he smoked too much"

Ed, no. Do not go down this line of thought.

Yes I know I said I would spite lynch pj. The fact is, he is a lazy stoner. He recognizes this.

Yes he could be scum, but since we have virtually zero evidence against him, chances are better that he's town, and what happens if we lynch pj today and he flips town?

I'll tell you what: jack squat. We just burn a mislynch and learn absolutely nothing. And also if he's town, hopping on this pj train is an incredibly safe and easy play for scum to make today. Because all they have to say is "yep, he's done nothing" and then nobody can really hold it against them.

I know it's tempting and I resent the ever-living fuck out of him, but it's just a foolish play.

Very good point.

I am unvoting because I feel like I am still on PJ, and I dont like that now he is actually gaining steam as a lynch candidate because of this point.

##Unvote
##Vote:Red
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benjamin3740 posted...

Also I hate to get into IGCD's personal life, but this doesn't strike me as his town persona at all. Would you say you're more aggressive as town, IGCD? I saw you mention Terra's absence as a reason you're not getting into any heated arguments, but I feel like even without Terra you draw enough attention as town for most players to be trying to lynch you day 1.

No, I dont feel that way at all. I dont stay consistent in my play because I dont like being read as town,(by that i mean i dont like when people call me town in games whether I am scum or town) as it usually takes my drive away because I feel like I have accomplished all I need to to make it to end game. I need to feel pressured or see something to pounce in so I can take a ball and run with it. My sporadic posting has made that hard because things I dont like are getting called out before I can get to them.
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