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TopicHow do we fix capitalism?
darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:32:37 PM
#56
FLUFFYGERM posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Subsidies aren't loans, and if their cars are in such high demand, why does Tesla have so many warehouses full of completed cars, sitting for months?

Your love affair with Tesla is proof positive that we don't live in a capitalist society - government intrusion is literally the only reason they exist.


Tesla benefited from a loan that they paid back with interest and extra. Subsidies to make the new technology more affordable is fair, because bootstrapping funds are fair when they're used intelligently.

If no one wanted Tesla's cars, they wouldn't exist regardless of the subsidies.

None of what you said makes Elon Musk a capitalist, or Tesla a model of capitalism.

They're more akin to Volkswagen circa 1935.
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TopicHow do we fix capitalism?
darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:19:12 PM
#48
FLUFFYGERM posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
That also doesn't change the problem that someone in the world has to be exploited in our modern world for it to function, though.

People don't need to be exploited for the modern world to function. That's a really reductive and dishonest take on how the world works. Some mineral suppliers abusing children via child labor so they can sell those minerals to some smartphone companies doesn't mean that's the only way smartphones are built or can be built, for example.

The people who think that literally think a rich person who owns a company and pays his employees well and treats them fairly is "exploiting" his workers because they don't own the company.

Actually, I didn't say the modern world can't exist, I said our current system relies on it. I also wasn't talking about people working for a company, I was talking about how many companies import materials and services from sweat shops from places like Korea and China where people work like 18 hour days in what is basically slave labor.

Defend companies like Tesla that do most of their work in the states, then. Rather than paint a target on their back whenever there are accidents or they aren't perfect.

And make it more competitive for American companies to produce in America. Don't shaft them with massive corporate taxes that are designed to fuel a welfare state.

Tesla is the perfect example of non-capitalism. Had they been supported by capitalism, they'd have failed years ago.

They literally only exist due to President Obama gifting them billions of dollars.


It's new technology that is far superior to gas-powered cars but required bootstrapping of funds in order to become tenable. It's perfectly fine for a government to invest in loaning money or granting money for laudable research initiatives.

Tesla paid their loan back with interest and extra on top to be nice, and their cars are in really high demand. So clearly consumers want what they're producing, and we're all better for it as a result.

That is why every other car manufacturer has committed to producing electric vehicles (some major ones even saying they will produce just electric vehicles within the next few years).

Subsidies aren't loans, and if their cars are in such high demand, why does Tesla have so many warehouses full of completed cars, sitting for months?

Your love affair with Tesla is proof positive that we don't live in a capitalist society - government intrusion is literally the only reason they exist.
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TopicHow do we fix capitalism?
darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:15:53 PM
#39
Dash_Harber posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
That also doesn't change the problem that someone in the world has to be exploited in our modern world for it to function, though.

People don't need to be exploited for the modern world to function. That's a really reductive and dishonest take on how the world works. Some mineral suppliers abusing children via child labor so they can sell those minerals to some smartphone companies doesn't mean that's the only way smartphones are built or can be built, for example.

The people who think that literally think a rich person who owns a company and pays his employees well and treats them fairly is "exploiting" his workers because they don't own the company.

Actually, I didn't say the modern world can't exist, I said our current system relies on it. I also wasn't talking about people working for a company, I was talking about how many companies import materials and services from sweat shops from places like Korea and China where people work like 18 hour days in what is basically slave labor.

Because those are Communist and Socialist nations, and there is no way to pay them.

Like, those nations are what the people who want to "fix" capitalism will turn us into.
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TopicHow do we fix capitalism?
darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:14:28 PM
#37
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
That also doesn't change the problem that someone in the world has to be exploited in our modern world for it to function, though.

People don't need to be exploited for the modern world to function. That's a really reductive and dishonest take on how the world works. Some mineral suppliers abusing children via child labor so they can sell those minerals to some smartphone companies doesn't mean that's the only way smartphones are built or can be built, for example.

The people who think that literally think a rich person who owns a company and pays his employees well and treats them fairly is "exploiting" his workers because they don't own the company.

Actually, I didn't say the modern world can't exist, I said our current system relies on it. I also wasn't talking about people working for a company, I was talking about how many companies import materials and services from sweat shops from places like Korea and China where people work like 18 hour days in what is basically slave labor.

Defend companies like Tesla that do most of their work in the states, then. Rather than paint a target on their back whenever there are accidents or they aren't perfect.

And make it more competitive for American companies to produce in America. Don't shaft them with massive corporate taxes that are designed to fuel a welfare state.

Tesla is the perfect example of non-capitalism. Had they been supported by capitalism, they'd have failed years ago.

They literally only exist due to President Obama gifting them billions of dollars.
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TopicHow do we fix capitalism?
darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:05:43 PM
#26
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
That also doesn't change the problem that someone in the world has to be exploited in our modern world for it to function, though.

People don't need to be exploited for the modern world to function. That's a really reductive and dishonest take on how the world works. Some mineral suppliers abusing children via child labor so they can sell those minerals to some smartphone companies doesn't mean that's the only way smartphones are built or can be built, for example.

The people who think that literally think a rich person who owns a company and pays his employees well and treats them fairly is "exploiting" his workers because they don't own the company.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
TopicHow do we fix capitalism?
darkjedilink
11/29/18 10:59:40 PM
#16
theAteam posted...
By getting away from capitalism.

All the shit you've seen over the last 30-40 years is inherent in the system. Capitalism rewards the most efficient economic actions, regardless to societal effect. The only way away from that is to incentivize more socially beneficial outcomes through legislation. The problem with that is private industry owns the government so all the legislation benefits whoever has the most money, i.e. those that can most efficiently exploit the developing world.

"Getting away from capitalism" caused every single problem people have with American crony-capitalism. Going further away isn't going to fix those problems. It hasn't fixed it in Europe or South America or Asia or Canada, so why would it fix it here?
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TopicCNN fires commentator following speech at the UN
darkjedilink
11/29/18 10:54:48 PM
#3
"Hill responded on Thursday and stressed that he said nothing even remotely calling for violence against Jewish peoplebecause he, uh, didnt."

Except he actually did. That's what free Palestine from the river to the sea is - a call for the eradication of Israel and the Jewish people.
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TopicHow do we fix capitalism?
darkjedilink
11/29/18 10:52:42 PM
#8
MarqueeSeries posted...
Things have clearly gotten out of control. There's an exodus of jobs into countries with lower wages, automation is taking over many low skill positions, people continue to borrow like crazy despite what happened in 2008, and real wages are stagnant.

This really doesn't seem sustainable, but what can we do?

The problems you're describing are literally due to government interference in the marketplace.

As in, literally not capitalism.
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TopicOregon Black Man who PUNCHED and KILLED a RACIST White Man is NOT CHARGED!!
darkjedilink
11/23/18 9:08:09 AM
#128
Ozai_Was_Right posted...
Kitt posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...
What a surprise. Another poster who calls me racist runs away with his tail between his legs when asked why he feels that.

@scorpion41

You're a racist because, in this story's case, had the races been reversed, you'd feel that the black man dying - even though he started the fight - was proof that the white guy was a racist.

What a dumb fucking post. So he's racist because of some made up scenario you pulled out of your ass?

It's especially ironic because djl, like all of the other right wing posters in this very topic, actually do flip their stances and deeply held sincere beliefs based off nothing more than the races involved in the conversation.

I bet you can't possibly link to a single example of such.

You know, since I'm defending the black guy here, who was clearly in the right?
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TopicDetroit judge drops 6/8 charges in female genital mutilation case
darkjedilink
11/23/18 12:59:31 AM
#151
frozenshock posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Why is it ok for Jews to bite off a babies foreskin but not OK for Muslims to practice FGM?


Circumcision and FGM shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. That question makes absolutely no sense at all.

Muslims practice circumcision too, by the way. This is not about circumcision.

This is about chopping off a clitoris and removing almost the entire labia, then sewing the vaginal hole shut so that the girl can not physically have sex. Then the vagina hole is surgically reopened when she gets married.

How the fuck does this even compare to circumcision.

It compares because, if it doesn't, we have to correctly believe that Islam is absolutely fucked up.
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TopicOregon Black Man who PUNCHED and KILLED a RACIST White Man is NOT CHARGED!!
darkjedilink
11/23/18 12:58:00 AM
#119
Kineth posted...
What a surprise. Another poster who calls me racist runs away with his tail between his legs when asked why he feels that.

@scorpion41

You're a racist because, in this story's case, had the races been reversed, you'd feel that the black man dying - even though he started the fight - was proof that the white guy was a racist.
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TopicWe have to do what the right wing wants in order to stop the right wing
darkjedilink
11/22/18 5:21:53 PM
#16
Balrog0 posted...
Not what I said, also good job at 'non american Muslim radical' I can tell you're really unbiased here Mr. 'My wife divorced me cuz Obama Care'

Was he an American citizen or no?

Did he defend radical Islam or no?
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TopicWe have to do what the right wing wants in order to stop the right wing
darkjedilink
11/22/18 5:04:37 PM
#14
Balrog0 posted...
Center left sells out ordinary people to big business

Right wing exploits this but lives big biz, obviously scapegoats immigrants

Center left can't admit this to themselves or others, also scapegoats immigrants but in gentler tones

See also; their reactions to Obama blowing up an American teenager vs trump supporting Saudi Arabia after their murder of american resident

ITP - a Muslim nation killing a non-American Muslim radical must he met with the same derision as the President of the United States killing an American citizen with an illegal drone strike.
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TopicFriendly reminder that giving homeless people homes is cheaper than not.
darkjedilink
11/22/18 3:16:08 PM
#89
OctilIery posted...
darkjedilink posted...
OctilIery posted...
darkjedilink posted...
OctilIery posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Agreed. Send them all to Detroit. That city is practically empty. Thousands of abandoned homes for the taking!

Honestly, any that would be willing to relocate should be given the option, but many have family where they are.

Then their families can house them, and not cost taxpayers money, right?

Nope.

Why not?

The same reasons said family aren't housing them now. Not enough space, can't afford to care for them, relationship troubles, etc etc.

So you admit that there's zero reason not to relocate them.
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TopicWHy do people think Israel shouldn't be a country?
darkjedilink
11/22/18 3:15:29 PM
#81
averagejoel posted...
it's completely insane, but also completely expected, that people on this board would be supportive of a fascist apartheid ethnostate

Well, you do support Palestinians murdering Jewish children...
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TopicDetroit judge drops 6/8 charges in female genital mutilation case
darkjedilink
11/22/18 11:10:53 AM
#130
Roxborough4Ever posted...
STOP shit talking other peoples religions

When your religion says that women's clitorises need to be cut up and scarred because women are property and shouldn't be allowed to enjoy sex, we get to shit-talk it.
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TopicDetroit judge drops 6/8 charges in female genital mutilation case
darkjedilink
11/22/18 11:08:55 AM
#129
frozenshock posted...
"Congress overstepped its bounds by legislating to prohibit [female genital mutilation]," Friedman wrote, calling it a "local criminal activity" for the states to regulate, not Congress.

Going by that definition, congress isn't allowed to regulate anything at all.

This. I want an AK-47, an end to the Fed, DEA, FDA, and Roe vs. Wade.
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TopicDetroit judge drops 6/8 charges in female genital mutilation case
darkjedilink
11/22/18 2:21:10 AM
#120
MakoReizei posted...
lesidesi posted...
regardless on one's views of male circumcision, any attempt to equate female and male circumcision requires such ludicrous mental gymnastics that it's almost not worth talking about it with such a person

female circumcision is very clearly exponentially worse than male circumcision

this

True, but most of the people defending this also defend Palestinian child soldiers murdering Israeli citizens with rocket-propelled grenades, so, whatchagonnado?
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TopicFriendly reminder that giving homeless people homes is cheaper than not.
darkjedilink
11/22/18 12:16:39 AM
#87
OctilIery posted...
darkjedilink posted...
OctilIery posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Agreed. Send them all to Detroit. That city is practically empty. Thousands of abandoned homes for the taking!

Honestly, any that would be willing to relocate should be given the option, but many have family where they are.

Then their families can house them, and not cost taxpayers money, right?

Nope.

Why not?
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TopicCan someone tell me why some are trying to push Pelosi out?
darkjedilink
11/22/18 12:05:41 AM
#111
She's ancient and crazy.
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TopicOregon Black Man who PUNCHED and KILLED a RACIST White Man is NOT CHARGED!!
darkjedilink
11/21/18 11:40:40 PM
#102
gmanthebest posted...
White guy threw the first object, fair, next.

This.
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TopicNeo-Nazis Have No First Amendment Right to Harassment, Judge Rules
darkjedilink
11/21/18 11:39:08 PM
#275
Kineth posted...
Preaching hate shouldn't be tolerated.

That's why nobody likes you.
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TopicNeo-Nazis Have No First Amendment Right to Harassment, Judge Rules
darkjedilink
11/21/18 11:37:42 PM
#274
Kineth posted...
Good. Looks like the courts agree that punching Nazis is ok.

No, they don't. Like, not at all.
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TopicWHy do people think Israel shouldn't be a country?
darkjedilink
11/21/18 9:48:16 PM
#53
EliteLevel posted...
darkjedilink posted...
rikasa posted...
They decided they have to exist on top of a country that already existed and a lot of people are upset that they're murdering innocent people because they want the real estate.

Yes, a lot of people are mad that Palestinians are murdering innocent people by the hundreds on a daily basis because they want the real estate.

So why do people want Isreal gone?


I will always support Israel over Palestine every time. But what you posted is fucking ridiculous. Back it up with evidence.

There was just another rocket attack, bruh.
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TopicDetroit judge drops 6/8 charges in female genital mutilation case
darkjedilink
11/21/18 9:47:09 PM
#117
Ozai_Was_Right posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ozai_Was_Right posted...
s0nicfan posted...
An update of sorts: the lawyer of the doctor charged with letting people use his office to perform the procedure believes it's totally not as bad as circumcision. Also describes it as a religious procedure protected under the constitution.
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/21/669945997/judge-says-federal-law-against-female-genital-mutilation-violates-u-s-constituti

"We're thrilled with the court's well-reasoned and thoughtful opinion," Mary Chartier said. "We are confident that a trial would have shown that the religious procedure done in these cases was protected by the Constitution and far less invasive than male circumcision. No matter what future court proceedings may still occur, we're committed to fighting for as long as it takes to prove Dr. Attar is innocent."

Is he wrong? Don't we allow Jews to bite off baby foreskin with their bare teeth?

Uhhh, no?

Like, not at all, bruh.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/baby-dies-herpes-virus-ritual-circumcision-nyc-orthodox/story?id=15888618

New York City is investigating the death last September of a baby who contracted herpes after a "ritual circumcision with oral suction," in an ultra-Orthodox Jewish ceremony known in Hebrew as metzitzah b'peh.
In a practice that takes place during a ceremony known as the bris, a circumcision practitioner, or mohel, removes the foreskin from the baby's penis, and with his mouth sucks the blood from the incision to cleanse the wound.


Well, I mean...

Read what you posted, and read what you linked.

Note the HUUUUUUGE fucking difference.
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TopicFriendly reminder that giving homeless people homes is cheaper than not.
darkjedilink
11/21/18 9:45:35 PM
#83
OctilIery posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Agreed. Send them all to Detroit. That city is practically empty. Thousands of abandoned homes for the taking!

Honestly, any that would be willing to relocate should be given the option, but many have family where they are.

Then their families can house them, and not cost taxpayers money, right?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
TopicDetroit judge drops 6/8 charges in female genital mutilation case
darkjedilink
11/21/18 6:17:54 PM
#108
Ozai_Was_Right posted...
s0nicfan posted...
An update of sorts: the lawyer of the doctor charged with letting people use his office to perform the procedure believes it's totally not as bad as circumcision. Also describes it as a religious procedure protected under the constitution.
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/21/669945997/judge-says-federal-law-against-female-genital-mutilation-violates-u-s-constituti

"We're thrilled with the court's well-reasoned and thoughtful opinion," Mary Chartier said. "We are confident that a trial would have shown that the religious procedure done in these cases was protected by the Constitution and far less invasive than male circumcision. No matter what future court proceedings may still occur, we're committed to fighting for as long as it takes to prove Dr. Attar is innocent."

Is he wrong? Don't we allow Jews to bite off baby foreskin with their bare teeth?

Uhhh, no?

Like, not at all, bruh.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
TopicWHy do people think Israel shouldn't be a country?
darkjedilink
11/21/18 6:14:00 PM
#49
rikasa posted...
They decided they have to exist on top of a country that already existed and a lot of people are upset that they're murdering innocent people because they want the real estate.

Yes, a lot of people are mad that Palestinians are murdering innocent people by the hundreds on a daily basis because they want the real estate.

So why do people want Isreal gone?
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TopicWHy do people think Israel shouldn't be a country?
darkjedilink
11/21/18 6:02:15 PM
#48
averagejoel posted...
because ethnostates are bad and apartheid is also bad, and israel is both

Everything after the comma is false.
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TopicStormy Daniels Says Trump Has 'Ruined' Her Career
darkjedilink
11/20/18 9:53:56 PM
#18
TheCEmanCometh posted...
Her career was over anyway. She was at the point the only thing that would revive it was banging a black guy but she is a dodger so that was never happening.

Are you suggesting that the only white women in porn who fuck black guys are the ones who're used up and their career is on the wane?
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TopicWhat was Elizabeth Warren's original claim about her heritage?
darkjedilink
10/17/18 1:29:04 PM
#39
ledbowman posted...
voldothegr8 posted...

Are you trying to confirm her consistent story? Because that's what that video does. Please keep posting it.

That she considered herself a person of color, and filed legal documents claiming such.

Yes, very consistent.
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TopicUK plane passengers stop deportation of gang rapist
darkjedilink
10/17/18 1:25:05 PM
#30
hotcegaI posted...
But the passengers who thought they were doing a good deed were unaware that the man they were defending had been sentenced to nine years in jail for his part in a vicious gang rape of a teenage girl and that another member of his gang later fought for Islamic State in Syria.

the irony of people saying the people in the article are ignorant and then not reading it are kinda cute

I don't see the irony.

Are you suggesting their ignorance of the reasons he's being deported make their bitchfit okay?
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TopicWhat was Elizabeth Warren's original claim about her heritage?
darkjedilink
10/17/18 12:09:07 PM
#25
Sayoria posted...
Still voting Warren. Fuck Diehl.

You woul know about pretending to be something genetics prove you aren't.
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TopicThe 1/1024 is the upper end of a 99% confidence interval
darkjedilink
10/17/18 12:07:55 PM
#13
Squall28 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Squall28 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, are you arguing that she's Cherokee?

Nope.

Then what's the point? She's still white, and not her University's 'FIRST TENURED PROFESSOR OF COLOR!!!!! ' like they bragged about.

I'm asking people to stop using the 1/1024 figure.

No.
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TopicWhat was Elizabeth Warren's original claim about her heritage?
darkjedilink
10/17/18 12:05:05 PM
#21
Squall28 posted...
Post where she says she is native American, and not that one of her ancestors is.

When she told Harvard she was Native American, and not white.

Harvard then celebrated her as the first Harvard tenured professor of color.
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TopicWhat was Elizabeth Warren's original claim about her heritage?
darkjedilink
10/17/18 11:19:13 AM
#19
Squall28 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Her claim was she's Native American.

Source?

Elizabeth Warren....

And also contributing to a Native American cookbook. THE HORROR!

I thought you lefties hated cultural appropriation?
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TopicCherokee Nation: Elizabeth Warren's DNA test is useless
darkjedilink
10/17/18 11:17:27 AM
#84
ledbowman posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Who gives a fuck what they have to say? Shes not claiming tribal affiliation. They dont get to make the rules on DNA and ancestory.

She's repeatedly claimed she's Cherokee...

She never claimed to be full tribal Cherokee. Fuck outta here.

Did I say she did? No. However, she has claimed for decades to be of Cherokee descent, which is 'tribal affiliation.'
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TopicThe 1/1024 is the upper end of a 99% confidence interval
darkjedilink
10/17/18 11:14:44 AM
#9
Squall28 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, are you arguing that she's Cherokee?

Nope.

Then what's the point? She's still white, and not her University's 'FIRST TENURED PROFESSOR OF COLOR!!!!! ' like they bragged about.
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TopicThe 1/1024 is the upper end of a 99% confidence interval
darkjedilink
10/17/18 11:13:42 AM
#8
Tmaster148 posted...
Squall28 posted...
Darkman124 posted...
right, but the source focusing on that is ben shapiro's rag, also famous for imbecillic bullshit like "the first law of thermodynamics proves renewable energy isn't real"

it's more or less what you expect from illegitimate sources


That figure is being spread everywhere though. I see barely any mention at all about 1/64 and only 1/1024.

Because the right wants to be dishonest about this.

If you want to talk about political honesty on this, why don't the leftists covering this mention that no actual Native American DNA was used in the comparison at all?
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TopicThe 1/1024 is the upper end of a 99% confidence interval
darkjedilink
10/17/18 11:12:31 AM
#6
So, are you arguing that she's Cherokee?
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TopicCherokee Nation: Elizabeth Warren's DNA test is useless
darkjedilink
10/17/18 11:11:32 AM
#80
Alpha218 posted...
Who gives a fuck what they have to say? Shes not claiming tribal affiliation. They dont get to make the rules on DNA and ancestory.

She's repeatedly claimed she's Cherokee...
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TopicWhat was Elizabeth Warren's original claim about her heritage?
darkjedilink
10/17/18 11:10:35 AM
#17
Her claim was she's Native American. This claim is backed up by her listing herself as Native American on college forms, said college naming her their first 'tenured professor of color,' and contributing to a Native American cookbook.

Her DNA test proves she's no more Native American than almost any other White person in America.
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TopicLol FBI provides 1 physical report for senate to share
darkjedilink
10/04/18 1:52:54 PM
#94
Coffeebeanz posted...
I think the DNC should go after these lies as long as they can. Lying is a legitimate reason to not be a SCOTUS appointment.

Do you really want to hold 'lying' up as a standard, after supporting Obama, Clinton, Rosenstein, and Come?
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TopicLol FBI provides 1 physical report for senate to share
darkjedilink
10/04/18 1:48:50 PM
#91
Doom_Art posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I do think it would make the Democrats look exceptionally petty to nail him for perjury because he under-stated his drinking and partying habits, but if it keeps him out of the SCOTUS and keeps Donald Trump locked up with BS for a while, I think it's worth it.

If it is politically advantageous for the Dems and gives the GOP a headache then I'm all for it

As long as you admit that you have no morals, go ahead.
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TopicLol FBI provides 1 physical report for senate to share
darkjedilink
10/04/18 1:38:27 PM
#78
VipaGTS posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
VipaGTS posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
And in any case, I still think there's a very real possibility Ford was telling the truth.

But since I can't say for certain, objectively I have to assume Kavanaugh's innocence.

He seems like an emotional manchild, though.

You can assume his innocence (or rather consider him not guilty) but did he rape someone should not be the end all be all here. This isnt a criminal investigation. Its highly likely that he also lied under oath if the reports of what his college classmates are saying are true.


Hey man if you want to go down that route, I'm actually all for it.

I mean that is literally the route we should be going down. Thats the entire point of this investigation. His integrity as a person and how that translates to him being a judge is partly whats in question here.

So, you think it's an acceptable course of action to throw out a bunch of uncorroborated sexual assault allegations, hoping something might stick, JUST to catch someone in a lie?
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TopicLol FBI provides 1 physical report for senate to share
darkjedilink
10/04/18 1:31:20 PM
#71
P4wn4g3 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I "shill" for the truth. That thing literally nobody, on either side, actually seems to care about.

We fucking care for the truth, that's why we want transparency in this high profile investigation, that's why we want a full criminal trial. It won't happen because fucking politics.

It won't happen because no prosecutor would put their reputation on the line by attempting to prosecute the allegation with no evidence or eyewitness testimony to corroborate it.

They don't even have an address where it took place.
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TopicLol FBI provides 1 physical report for senate to share
darkjedilink
10/04/18 1:29:35 PM
#66
P4wn4g3 posted...
Eyewitness testimony is evidence in criminal court. Not surprising you wouldn't have picked up on that though. And frankly I'd be surprised if your own mother talks to you, let alone assault victims, so you'll have to excuse me if I dismiss your opinion on her story as garbage.

Eyewitness testimony is evidence. She doesn't have any eyewitness testimony to corroborate her allegations.
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TopicLol FBI provides 1 physical report for senate to share
darkjedilink
10/04/18 1:00:09 PM
#38
P4wn4g3 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Antifar posted...
Seems to have been a mistake to use the hearing to push for an FBI investigation as the be-all and end all

Idk, we know he's a rapist. That's basically the only thing American citizens get these days.

And how do we know he's a rapist?

He was never even accused of rape, so that is a bit of a leap...

Oh ok, sexual assaultist. I guess when you murder puppies on the daily you really gotta know where those fine lines are.

And, again, how do we know this? No evidence has been presented, and it sounds like the FBI didn't find much to corroborate such a claim - if they had, the Dems wouldn't be bitching.

Evidence has been submitted. Just because you didn't watch Ford's testimony doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just because Kavanaugh won't be tried criminally doesn't mean he didn't do it. She had a pretty air tight testimony that sounded pretty similar to those of women I've talked to who have been assaulted, which is basically what the Democrats said as prosecuting attorneys and the republicans failed to comment on in the hearing.

Oh, you're one of those people who think that an uncorroborated accusation is evidence that someone is a criminal.

And her story wasn't 'airtight' in the least.
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TopicLol FBI provides 1 physical report for senate to share
darkjedilink
10/04/18 12:53:52 PM
#29
P4wn4g3 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Antifar posted...
Seems to have been a mistake to use the hearing to push for an FBI investigation as the be-all and end all

Idk, we know he's a rapist. That's basically the only thing American citizens get these days.

And how do we know he's a rapist?

He was never even accused of rape, so that is a bit of a leap...

Oh ok, sexual assaultist. I guess when you murder puppies on the daily you really gotta know where those fine lines are.

And, again, how do we know this? No evidence has been presented, and it sounds like the FBI didn't find much to corroborate such a claim - if they had, the Dems wouldn't be bitching.
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