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Alphamon posted...

RiderofHogs posted...

Alphamon posted...

This is straight up ethnic cleansing

Except you know.....without all the death.
And the people are actually breaking the law.

Serious question. What went wrong in your life that turned you so angry.

Damn.

The man making accusations of ethnic cleansing accusing someone calling him out on his bullshit of being angry...
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Antifar posted...

Seems to have been a mistake to use the hearing to push for an FBI investigation as the be-all and end all

Idk, we know he's a rapist. That's basically the only thing American citizens get these days.

And how do we know he's a rapist?

He was never even accused of rape, so that is a bit of a leap...
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It should be released to the public.

Thus far, though, the only people I've seen rejecting that idea were Dem senators - the same ones who made this a show trial to begin with.
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Herugrim posted...

You didn't site a single source so I have no choice but to ignore your 'data'.

Second it goes beyond strict rape. A woman can point a finger to get a restraining order. No evidence required whatsoever. That is enough to cost a man his job, and for the police to come and take his firearms. I've seen it happen.

Nobody should be persecuted without evidence.

Anyone can get a restraining order against anyone with no evidence - you just have to pay for it.
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teepan95 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

teepan95 posted...

CyricZ posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

No convictions without hard proof.

We already do that.

No revealing the name of the accused until convicted.

Until convicted? How would you suggest we handle this in the legal process?

In Germany, the media is not allowed to reveal a suspect's full name until they have been convicted. They usually use "[first name] [initial of last name]" instead. Maybe a similar system?

That's because Germany doesn't have First Amendment protections on freedom of the press.

I double-checked and it's a voluntary standard the press upholds, as opposed to a concrete law

So it'd work in the US if the media corporations weren't scum

You think that liberal news reporters, who've been attacking Kavanaugh since day one with zero evidence, would voluntarily choose to keep identities of those accused sexual crimes secret until conviction?
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Howl posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Howl posted...

OpShaft posted...

How do you get these stats? 50% of all convicted rapists could have been false, we wouldnt know.

I'm sure the number are probably close to accurate, just curious.

They arrive at those statistics by doing surveys of women who claim to have been raped but never reported them. That's how they arrive at the figures. The reliability of methods such as that are questionable but it's pretty clear that rapes largely do go unreported.

If you agree that the methodology is questionable, then you really can't make conclusions from it.

It DEFINITELY shouldn't be used to create policy that flies in the face of jurisprudence.

Oh I definitely agree with your assessment of that policy shouldn't be created based on it. It's just logically if they interviewed for example 500,000 women and 9,000 say they had been raped in their life but only 3,000 of them said they reported it, it stands to reason that under reporting is a real thing. Those numbers aren't accurate and I just made them up but the idea is the same.

I don't doubt that some women choose not to report it.

Think about this, though - how many hate crime hoaxes did we have post-Trump election? The left wants us to, and still does themselves, treat them as real.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

teepan95 posted...

CyricZ posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

No convictions without hard proof.

We already do that.

No revealing the name of the accused until convicted.

Until convicted? How would you suggest we handle this in the legal process?

In Germany, the media is not allowed to reveal a suspect's full name until they have been convicted. They usually use "[first name] [initial of last name]" instead. Maybe a similar system?

That's because Germany doesn't have First Amendment protections on freedom of the press.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Kineth posted...

Imagine if you put the time into productive shit instead of posting garbage.

You literally advocated this shit in Kavanaugh topics.
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Kazi1212 posted...

But SJWs only exist on the internet guys.

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Deadpool_18 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

LanHikari10 posted...

Alright, you go do that then.

You can pretty much use YouTube for everything car related now and figure it out yourself, just in a longer amount of time.

Not in the long term, if you actually want to stay away from a mechanic shop.

Why not the long term?

Because eventually, if you never want to go into a mechanic shop again, you're going to need a lift and a shit-ton of specialized tools.

The tools to remove an oil filter on a late-model Toyota are $150, for example.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

EpicKingdom_ posted...

darkjedilink posted...

EpicKingdom_ posted...

I decided not to pay $1,000 for a front-end alignment.

Why was it $1,000?

They told me I required lower control arms with ball joints + repack wheel bearings for a Ford Ranger 99 (or else the front-end alignment would be pointless).

Deal or no deal?

On a side note, all computer repair shops are also rip offs.

Where do you live, and what's their labor charge?

Unknown5uspect posted...

EpicKingdom_ posted...

I decided not to pay $1,000 for a front-end alignment.

Why was it $1,000?

They told me I required lower control arms with ball joints + repack wheel bearings for a Ford Ranger 99 (or else the front-end alignment would be pointless).

Deal or no deal?

On a side note, all computer repair shops are also rip offs.

They're not wrong about the alignment being pointless if you don't take of those parts first.

Idk about $1000. But I do know replacing lower control arms and ball joints can be a real pain in the ass.

$379.98 for lower control arms with joints x2.
$320.00 for Installation.
$200.00 for repack wheel bearings.

Total was closer to $933.23.

IDK about the wheel bearing repack, but, depending on where you live, that seems reasonable.
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Howl posted...

OpShaft posted...

How do you get these stats? 50% of all convicted rapists could have been false, we wouldnt know.

I'm sure the number are probably close to accurate, just curious.

They arrive at those statistics by doing surveys of women who claim to have been raped but never reported them. That's how they arrive at the figures. The reliability of methods such as that are questionable but it's pretty clear that rapes largely do go unreported.

If you agree that the methodology is questionable, then you really can't make conclusions from it.

It DEFINITELY shouldn't be used to create policy that flies in the face of jurisprudence.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

creativerealms posted...

Even today where more women report rape then ever we still have many women who can't being themselves to report their attack. This whole will they be believed mindset is part of it.

And it shouldn't be. Nobody has to believe them.

All that needs to happen is the legal system investigate their claims.

I have a huge problem with the idea that people would rather not make the accusation due to not being believed and have their attacker go free.
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CyricZ posted...

Howl posted...

So you'd be ok with the same language of "dispelling the police killing black people myth" then? Applied to that issue?

Data supplied, I'd have to accept it.

Wouldn't mean I wouldn't be allowed to call out particular police officers on how they handled their particular situations, anyway.

Twin3Turbo posted...

Except he's:

A. Usually on the side saying that police killings are overblown.
B. Police killings are not the only thing that people bring up in regards to police brutality against minorities.

Well yeah, but if CE is nothing else it's "don't judge me for my very obvious bias" so I figured I'd keep it to this topic.

The data has been supplied, time and time again.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

CyricZ posted...

Howl posted...

The pint is that the raw numbers even just at average are comparable to the total numbers of police killings and at the extreme low end are still hire than the total number of police killings of black people.

Uh, congratulations on comparing one number to another?

Howl posted...

Why is it ok to call that an epidemic every week

I never said it was. Like I said, this isn't the topic for talking about cop killings.

darkjedilink posted...

That's just as wrong as people suggesting we automatically treat the accusation as fact in cases of rape and sexual assault.

No, that's exactly what he's suggesting. We try a ton of cases in this country without "hard proof", which I might note is a concept he didn't define, so I'm making assumptions to suggest he means irrefutable physical evidence. The reason we even have these trials is to take what facts we do have and use them to have judgment calls made by a jury of our peers. Almost no trials will proceed with a "smoking gun", as it were. There's murkiness in all of them.

If he's suggesting "no conviction without physical evidence", that is literally suggesting a change in our judicial process, one that I might add will vastly favor the accused over the accuser.

I'm just curious how he intends to sell that.

No, I'm saying I agree with you on that. However, I'm saying his position to protect the accused is just as short-sighted and anti-justice as the leftist position as treating the accuser as infallible.
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CyricZ posted...

darkjedilink posted...

CyricZ posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

No convictions without hard proof.

We already do that.

Not true at all - thousands of men have been convicted of rape and sexual assault solely Hy the victim's testimony. Many have been exonerated.

My bad, I misread.

Instead I'll call Knowledge_King out on why specifically on the topic of rape would he be willing to suspend the concept of "beyond reasonable doubt" which serves all our criminal cases, and how he intends to market the idea of changing the procedures of trial by jury specifically for rape cases for the benefit of the accused.

That's just as wrong as people suggesting we automatically treat the accusation as fact in cases of rape and sexual assault.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

X-Pac_Heat posted...

My main thing isn't that they believed her but they automatically judged me as guilty on her word alone.

Fuck. That. Nobody has any right saying that is okay especially if you've never faced that shit

This

Didnt see this post earlier, I absolutely agree with the sentiment in that post. My cousins? husband was falsely accused of sexual assault, he similarly told me the worst thing about the whole ordeal was how he felt people just automatically judged him as guilty purely based on the accuser?s word. This is not even going into how his whole life was turned upside down because of it. So I totally get where you coming from, if TC had experienced something like this himself he would probably be singing a different tune than casually downplaying the seriousness of the 2-10% of false rape accusations that are out there, as if that?s some insignificant amount of individuals.

Statistics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anecdotes though

Is the media circus over UVA and Duke 'anecdotal?'. Or does that demonstrate a real, actual punishment to people who've done nothing wrong?
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CyricZ posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

No convictions without hard proof.

We already do that.

Not true at all - thousands of men have been convicted of rape and sexual assault solely Hy the victim's testimony. Many have been exonerated.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

LanHikari10 posted...

Alright, you go do that then.

You can pretty much use YouTube for everything car related now and figure it out yourself, just in a longer amount of time.

Not in the long term, if you actually want to stay away from a mechanic shop.
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Conflict posted...

John_Galt posted...

Shhhh

Let the poors think this was progress

Conservatives were the one applauding this and calling Bezos a hero, dumbass. Lol

Somehow I doubt that it was just conservatives, since Bezos is a liberal, and $15 an hour is what liberals want the new minimum wage to be.
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COVxy posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman has been parroting her polygraph as proof since the moment it was announced.

Well, I certainly haven't seen it. Would have commented if I did.

You've comented in his multiple threads on it...
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Coffeebeanz posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

Think about it - you just admitted that her story has changed four times. Why not 'go after' someone under that circumstance?

I think there's a very real possibility they could be false allegations. That's part of the reason why I support the FBI investigation. I also believe this benefit of the doubt applies to Kavanaugh, but this view appears to be not shared by others on this website.

Accusers don't get 'benefit of the doubt' in any legal setting whatsoever...

Why do you think rape accusers should?

Because of the social stigma involved with trying to come out and admit you've been raped. The last thing we need is for people to think that they're more likely to be punished for coming out then they are to get justice.

So, destroy all jurisprudence because of a social stigma?
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gunplagirl posted...

darkjedilink posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

frozenshock posted...

can it really get any worse?

A President given complete criminal immunity from SCOTUS.
Gerrymandering down to the house.
etc

Yes, it can always get worse.

This. Heck, the president could probably declare himself King for life and have political opponents, even elected ones, removed and then deny other parties from running a candidate for the newly opened position. With the majority of the seats they'd ultimately win in appeals and be able to freely rewrite the laws and Constitution as they please.

Only liberal justices would allow the President a lifetime term - conservative justices actually try to follow the Constitution.

I know you're a gimmick account but at least put some effort into your bs

Name a liberal Supreme Court Justice who actually abides by the Constitution as it is written. Name a single liberal-authored position that follows the letter and spirit of the Constitution.

Hell, their opinions on the Second Amendment ALONE prove my point perfectly.
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Unknown5uspect posted...

This is nothing YouTube, the right tools, a little ingenuity, and some time can't fix.

Never suggest YouTube as a primary source for mechanic information.

That's how people blow up AC compressors, fry electronics, and put the wrong type of brake fluid in their car.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

EpicKingdom_ posted...

I decided not to pay $1,000 for a front-end alignment.

Why was it $1,000?

They told me I required lower control arms with ball joints + repack wheel bearings for a Ford Ranger 99 (or else the front-end alignment would be pointless).

Deal or no deal?

On a side note, all computer repair shops are also rip offs.

Where do you live, and what's their labor charge?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

shockthemonkey posted...

Liberals want a non-corrupt, functioning government rather

Is that why more liberal politicians get convicted of corruption than conservatives? Because they aren't corrupt?
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TheKentster posted...

I've always wanted to actually watch the whole rise of the NWO and shit, I think that would change a lot of things

Hulk Hogan was, and still is, my favorite wrestler of all time. I remember seeing the Bash at the Beach where it was The Outsiders and 'The Third Man' versus Sting, Savage, and Luger.

I started jumping up and down in excitement when Hogan came down the runway, KNOWING he was going to help Savage destroy the Outsiders. Of course - they were best friends!

Then, outta nowhere, he lays out Savage, covers, and gets the 1, 2, 3. HOGAN WAS THE THIRD MAN! OH MY GAHD!!! WHAT IS HAPPENING!!!!??!!!

Then, he goes into his speech about hating having to pander the fans even though they're turning their back on him for leaving the WWF.

God, that was awesome.
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Skye Reynolds posted...

- use of cruiserweights and smaller wrestlers
- technical wrestling and chain wrestling
- the ability for minority wrestlers to be wrestlers instead of caricatures
- the ability for wrestlers to be given a second chance after leaving the WWE
- commentary which felt like sports commentary
- wrestlers' histories being brought up during matches
- memorable factions
- Nitro girls
- competition for the WWE

The early days of the NWO.
The Nasty Boyz.
Booker T being treated with respect.
Vader being treated with respect.
Pre-goth Sting.
Goth Sting.
All the iterations of The Four Horsemen.
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DanHarenChamp posted...

darkjedilink posted...

DanHarenChamp posted...

darkjedilink posted...

DanHarenChamp posted...

16-BITTER posted...

DanHarenChamp posted...

Im actually serious. May be a few years til I get to it but I eventually will.

Make sure you also save up for a full assortment of specialized tools, a hydraulic lift, an air compressor, etc depending on your make and model, how old your vehicle is and what you can expect to be doing.

I try to do as many of my own repairs as possible but there's some shit you just can't do properly without the right environment and equipment, even with the right know how. At that point, it's worth just paying somebody else to save you the headache

Yea, probably not in the next few years, but eventually I certainly will have enough saved for all of that.

Plus I like cars in general. This will give me the skills to work on classic cars, which is something I've always wanted to do. I have a cousin that does that for fun so maybe we can work on cars together. He's done a few projects so far. I'd love to fix up an old F250 highboy or a 67 mustang or something.

You do know that we're talking more money in tools than for a house, right?

Like, it's not uncommon for mechanics to refinance for far more than they owe on their house to pay off their tools?

Theres no way it can be more than a house in california.

I would bet that, if you're a professional mechanic, buying tools off the truck for fifteen years, in California, it's half as much as the average house.

My dad refinanced his house for triple what he still owed, in Minnesota, and dropped over $150,000 to pay off all his tools. When the housing bubble burst, he lost his house.

lmao. Please dude. I'm not opening a mechanic shop in my garage. Theres absolutely no way all of the tools combined for hobby and most repairs would be more than like 10-20k.

Well, then you won't be buying everything necessary to not need a mechanic ever again.
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DanHarenChamp posted...

its more like, lets say I take it to em for an oil change, they could easily be intentionally fucking shit up causing leaks and damage, or just straight up making stuff up like "this part is leaking" "this part is damaged" etc.

Do you have any idea how insanely illegal that is?

Like, do you even know where that meme comes from? It's almost entirely from anecdotal stories about lube shops on Route 66 back in the '50's.
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DanHarenChamp posted...

darkjedilink posted...

DanHarenChamp posted...

16-BITTER posted...

DanHarenChamp posted...

Im actually serious. May be a few years til I get to it but I eventually will.

Make sure you also save up for a full assortment of specialized tools, a hydraulic lift, an air compressor, etc depending on your make and model, how old your vehicle is and what you can expect to be doing.

I try to do as many of my own repairs as possible but there's some shit you just can't do properly without the right environment and equipment, even with the right know how. At that point, it's worth just paying somebody else to save you the headache

Yea, probably not in the next few years, but eventually I certainly will have enough saved for all of that.

Plus I like cars in general. This will give me the skills to work on classic cars, which is something I've always wanted to do. I have a cousin that does that for fun so maybe we can work on cars together. He's done a few projects so far. I'd love to fix up an old F250 highboy or a 67 mustang or something.

You do know that we're talking more money in tools than for a house, right?

Like, it's not uncommon for mechanics to refinance for far more than they owe on their house to pay off their tools?

Theres no way it can be more than a house in california.

I would bet that, if you're a professional mechanic, buying tools off the truck for fifteen years, in California, it's half as much as the average house.

My dad refinanced his house for triple what he still owed, in Minnesota, and dropped over $150,000 to pay off all his tools. When the housing bubble burst, he lost his house.
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DanHarenChamp posted...

16-BITTER posted...

DanHarenChamp posted...

Im actually serious. May be a few years til I get to it but I eventually will.

Make sure you also save up for a full assortment of specialized tools, a hydraulic lift, an air compressor, etc depending on your make and model, how old your vehicle is and what you can expect to be doing.

I try to do as many of my own repairs as possible but there's some shit you just can't do properly without the right environment and equipment, even with the right know how. At that point, it's worth just paying somebody else to save you the headache

Yea, probably not in the next few years, but eventually I certainly will have enough saved for all of that.

Plus I like cars in general. This will give me the skills to work on classic cars, which is something I've always wanted to do. I have a cousin that does that for fun so maybe we can work on cars together. He's done a few projects so far. I'd love to fix up an old F250 highboy or a 67 mustang or something.

You do know that we're talking more money in tools than for a house, right?

Like, it's not uncommon for mechanics to refinance for far more than they owe on their house to pay off their tools?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

CyricZ posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Yes, they were physically assaulted by protesters, for a rape they didn't commit.

Yeah sorry. Must have missed that.

darkjedilink posted...

The very first page states that if a woman consumes alcohol, she cannot give consent, and any sexual activity she participates in is therefore rape.

No, that's not what that says. It says "where a person is incapable of giving consent due to the victims use of drugs or alcohol". It's a vague statement and it's meant to be vague. It doesn't state that the moment one consumes alcohol that they are unable to give consent. The reason it exists is to provide credence that someone who is sufficiently intoxicated cannot give consent. It will still be up to the investigation to determine if they were sufficiently intoxicated. There will always be a level of judgment involved with these cases.

At the end of the day, the Obama Title IX letter wasn't binding. It was only ever just guidance, which is why it was so easy for DeVos to revoke it.

Because it's vague, we have to assume my position on it.

That's why vague laws are struck down.

And it doesn't matter how 'binding' it was - due to Presidential policy, innocent men were punished for nothing. That policy was crafted due to liberal ideas of 'guilty until proven innocent' as it relates to rape.
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MuayThai85 posted...

The rates are definitely extremely high. Labour rate at Toyota in Thailand is like $5/hour. I spent an extra $3 on top of the cost of parts to have my Ninja fixed at Kawasaki.

The rates are high so that the mechanic can actually get paid a decent wage.

And, TC, as a mechanic...

foreverzero212 posted...

LanHikari10 posted...

Alright, you go do that then.

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Coffeebeanz posted...

Think about it - you just admitted that her story has changed four times. Why not 'go after' someone under that circumstance?

I think there's a very real possibility they could be false allegations. That's part of the reason why I support the FBI investigation. I also believe this benefit of the doubt applies to Kavanaugh, but this view appears to be not shared by others on this website.

Accusers don't get 'benefit of the doubt' in any legal setting whatsoever...

Why do you think rape accusers should?
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COVxy posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

nemu posted...

Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk.

A sizable number of liberals used her taking and passing one as concrete proof that everything she said was true...

I don't think I've seen any such thing said a single time on CE.

ledbowman has been parroting her polygraph as proof since the moment it was announced.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

I did make that argument, actually. The interviewing prosecutor noted that the story she told Congress was rather significantly different from the stories she told her therapist, the polygraph and her husband. That certainly isn't proof it's false, but it does raise suspicion.

I just think it's wrong to go after a rape accuser if you're not absolutely 100% certain they're lying. It sets a bad precedent.

Our entire system of jurisprudence depends on the ability to face and interrogate the accuser. It's not 'wrong,' it's the only way to make sure the accusation is valid.

Think about it - you just admitted that her story has changed four times. Why not 'go after' someone under that circumstance?
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Tyranthraxus posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

darkjedilink posted...

So, we agree that there are more partial-birth abortions performed than abortion clinics destroyed by terrorists?

Nope.

Because the statistics kinda back that up...

Nope.

20 murders of abortion doctors since 1990, according to Wikipedia.

Kermit Gosnell committed how many illegal abortions, all by himself?
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Tyranthraxus posted...

darkjedilink posted...

So, we agree that there are more partial-birth abortions performed than abortion clinics destroyed by terrorists?

Nope.

Because the statistics kinda back that up...
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Dude is white as fuck.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Unless this claim has evidence, I'm going to assume it's false.

Especially given the source is an ex boyfriend.

This. I'm not buying it, unless someone is willing to come forward and testify under oath that Ford coached them on beating a polygraph.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Tiller? The guy doing over 3,000 abortions a year? Whom then-governor, future Health and Health and Han Services director Kathleen Sebelius called a 'hero?'

Sorry, I completely mind blanked on which event I was talking about so I tried to look it up on Google and found that I was also completely wrong about everything else.

Not only does more than one of these things happen a year on average, (in just the united states), the worst recent event is a shooting from 2015 (3 dead).

2017 and 2018 have been oddly peaceful for abortion clinics, for some reason.

So, we agree that there are more partial-birth abortions performed than abortion clinics destroyed by terrorists?
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Pepys Monster posted...

"I meant to kick your phone!"

Like that's any better. Liberals.

Liberals would support him going to jail for assault. Soooo

Not if someone called her a fascist.
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Doom_Art posted...

GreatEvilEmpire posted...

It's also being reported by the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/03/us/politics/blasey-ford-republicans-kavanaugh.html

I think it's disingenuous to refer to that as "coaching" for a polygraph

In any case the person who was allegedly "coached" denies it, so meh.

Given the GOPs behavior the last few weeks I'm inclined to say this is full of crap

'FAKE NEWS!' indeed!
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nemu posted...

Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk.

Because they have no actual evidence the party happened, much less that a crime took place, much less that Kavanaugh is the perp.
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robellr13 posted...

A black person hurting their own community is far more painful. Especially when its ignorance.

So, you don't like the idea of black women having opinions that aren't yours?

How very progressive of you.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Monolith1676 posted...

jborgan posted...

eggcorn posted...

"respect a womans right to choose!"
*woman chooses to express a different opinion*
"roadhouse kick the woman!"

It's better than killing doctors who perform abortions, or bombing abortion clinics, at least. But I don't expect logic from pro-lifers.

Guy's still shitty, though.

When was the last time that happened?

During Bush iirc

Tiller? The guy doing over 3,000 abortions a year? Whom then-governor, future Health and Health and Han Services director Kathleen Sebelius called a 'hero?'
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Questionmarktarius posted...

darkjedilink posted...

If you want to go with a spectrum of bad, he about taking billions of dollars from the US government to perform thousands of abortions per year? Is that shitty to you?

If the taxpayers are paying an average of $1,000,000 per abortion, that's pretty bad yeah.

My mistake - it's about a half a billion dollars a year in actual tax revenue, and another $350 million in Medicaid payments.

Should be zero, but I was incorrect when I said 'billions.' I'm sorry.
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jborgan posted...

jborgan posted...

eggcorn posted...

"respect a womans right to choose!"
*woman chooses to express a different opinion*
"roadhouse kick the woman!"

It's better than killing doctors who perform abortions, or bombing abortion clinics, at least. But I don't expect logic from pro-lifers.

Guy's still shitty, though.

If you want to go with a spectrum of bad, he about taking billions of dollars from the US government to perform thousands of abortions per year? Is that shitty to you?
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