Lurker > DoomTheGyarados

red13n posted...

Scare less rolefishing please. You know thats bad. And I'm going to remind you chris literally tried to kill your slot at the end of the day.

100% manipulative.

red13n posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Red, at what point does scum having information get outweighed by the ruckus you create in topic? Like I had very little to work with last game and my PoE was only one off from being 100% accurate.

If you're town you really, really should know how I feel about loose ends.

you literally lost last game because of not being willing to lynch corrik at his most obvious. Don't you even start about last game. hell, you made it hard on town by flat out deciding not to play. So get off your damn high horse.

Like hell I made it hard on town. It isn't my fault we had someone modkill himself, someone's wife go into child birth (not his fault either) or someone decide to make non aggression pacts with scum. Not playing early and conserving my energy was the proper play. Also I am sick of people who haven't made an impact in a mafia game in a decade tell me about "not lynching people." as if you have a list of victories you can be proud of where you made the hard decision.

Beside the point though, you're deflecting.
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Sir Chris

Red, at what point does scum having information get outweighed by the ruckus you create in topic? Like I had very little to work with last game and my PoE was only one off from being 100% accurate.

If you're town you really, really should know how I feel about loose ends.
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Sir Chris

Mafia is a game of pressure points, Blade. If I cannot even force Red to explain a clear contradiction then I might as well quit playing.
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Sir Chris

I just wanted Red to explain a simple contradiction in his logic. God not everything is rocket science.
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Sir Chris

I literally do not know what I should know.

Also Corrik comes back when I state I am going to be mostly gone to vote for me. I see that opportunistic streak, boy.
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Sir Chris

Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

My statement 'scummons are usually bullshit" is not so ironically informed by the fact that I just had it rubbed in my face that this is true.

I will die before claiming for you in any game, Corrik.

That can be arranged.

You couldn't do it when you caught scum Chris flat footed, good luck doing it to town Chris rookie :p
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Sir Chris

My statement 'scummons are usually bullshit" is not so ironically informed by the fact that I just had it rubbed in my face that this is true.

I will die before claiming for you in any game, Corrik.
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Sir Chris

ScareChan posted...

I highly doubt Chris and red are scum in this way together by the way

You are really naive if you think anything is beyond people who have known each other for 18 years, no matter how right you are now.
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Sir Chris

red13n posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Then perhaps you shouldn't put out bait for fish to bite, you don't know which one of those fish is going to swallow you whole. Stop parading to me about anti-town behavior when you mask your scumminess behind jest and bullshit.

i have reasons, they arent scummy.

the bullshit part is honestly just, well, it is bullshit.

Right, and I am stating I do not believe you. I think you are lying.
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Sir Chris

ScareChan posted...

I dont think that Red would open up to pressure, but if you fill me in on what it is we are pressuring for I may consider

and yeah a fake note is basic but I just dont feel red to pullthat type of play

He said:

1. It is suspicious that blade and chris are alive
2. Scum's kill was blocked

I said this was contradicting. He has refused to clarify.
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Sir Chris

I was incredulous that he returned to the topic just when mentioned and placed a vote when he clearly shouldn't have been caught up. But then he claimed Hugger and I mean... yeah that wasn't a fake claim imo
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Sir Chris

Corrik posted...

Chris, you were very active in the 5tarscream lynch correct?

Yeah I voted him when he returned to the topic.
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Sir Chris

Then perhaps you shouldn't put out bait for fish to bite, you don't know which one of those fish is going to swallow you whole. Stop parading to me about anti-town behavior when you mask your scumminess behind jest and bullshit.
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Sir Chris

Now is the last time you are going to have me until 10 pm basically so you better vent angst now.
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Sir Chris

Vote Red to force his mouth open.

Because he has been evasive all day and has done nothing. Also faking a note is pretty basic stuff.
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Sir Chris

Scare please help me make Red more open to answering questions.
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Sir Chris

ScareChan posted...

and honestly I think its odd to see a list like that from Red this early too

what promted that Red? Chris' PoE?

Not even the first time he has posted a list.
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Sir Chris

Like if I were to describe our games my town game is one of pure strength. In that if I catch you, you die. Your scum game is one of high agility. So you are able to raise the odds that I don't catch you. So you have literally avoided my question the entire day.

Answer the fucking question or die.
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Sir Chris

Because you post one lazy ass thought (blade and Chris are alive, suspicion. Also corrik) and then go "But Plum is so an SK kill and scum's kill was blocked."

These two thoughts do not make sense. You are hiding behind "oh I am being vague on purpose." Like I want to literally kill you because you have ducked this question all day. I can see the gears turning in Blade's head as well. You could have put this inquiry to bed really easy but you've been evasive as shit and evasive as shit is how I'd describe scum red.
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Sir Chris

Begging your pardon then, what's the point of even posting it?
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Sir Chris

Maybe I am just getting senile in my old age or something. Maybe I've lost my edge. I don't know. But I read your vague bullshit and I remember "vague bullshit is anti town" being classic town red thought process.
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Sir Chris

You know I am getting pretty sick of being told things like 'Chris should know.'

Red if you are town I don't know what the fuck you are doing.
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Sir Chris

Yeah I can be pretty fickle on Blade, it's true. I just read his posts tonight and was like "yeah that's probably not a scum Blade" and tossed him to the town pile.

Alakazam and Ashe haven't changed between posts.
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Sir Chris

If you aren't going to understand what a PoE is Scare I will go back to coding.
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Sir Chris

Blade made me feel happy with how he has posted tonight.
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Sir Chris

Hold on, I may have missed a Mzero post. Also these aren't scum suspects per se, I just have town reads on everyone else.
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Sir Chris

Alakazam is a "IN THEORY COULD BE SCUM" but who the fuck knows
Ashe is the third wagon on day 1 and hasn't done anything to clear themselves even if I am not outright suspicious
Corrik may just be this ineffective now, no metric to rate his town play
Mzero is just nothing
PJ is nothing but with a promise of effort
Red has been snipey in his comments but weak.

Come on Scare, stop fucking around.
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Sir Chris

Look I don't have the time to pretend to be second fiddle here, you get the pimp hand now.

1. Alakazamtrainer
2. Ashetan
5. Corrik
9. Mzero
12. pjbasis
13. red13n

4-5 scum from here imo. Welcome to my POE.
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Sir Chris

The problem is Zach is clearly in a pissy mood for whatever reason, literally attacking Blade for Blade town reading him. Let's think about THAT for a second. Yes people defending themselves is optimal but sometimes they need help.

I left it alone for a bit to see interactions. Blade engaged, Red continued to snipe, PJ is idling the fuck out. Can we stop fucking around now I don't have limitless time.
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Sir Chris

Anyway Scare I am happy that you know how to post more than twice a day unlike the average board 8er but if you are going to waste your effort on trashy arguments against people who with a little perspective are obviously town due to how they react to things then maybe go back to MU geesh.
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Sir Chris

Anyway time to be a better player than Scare for a moment, let's maim your Zach case real quick because I am in the mood to spar over cute kouhais.

1. Scummons look bad but statistically I am pretty sure whomever said town gets scummoned fairly often is right. See 5tar, frankly. As someone who talks a lot with people from Asia I don't like that as an excuse much (see Mzero last game) so him claiming all sorts of contradictory stuff was just trashy. He then claimed Hugger and honestly that was the cue to get the fick off of him.

2. Weak attacks are not the sole domain of scum. Weak town players can certainly make them just as easily, and often do. Zach is a relatively new playr and expecting him to bring forth strong intent is just bad play on your part.

3. Your best bud Tony had more fluff than anyone day 1, so attacking Zach for 'fluff' is disingenuous. As much as I wish we weren' so fluffy acting as if town does not produce a lot of fluff is absurd.

4. I went after Tony too. If you want to attack someone for going after Tony, I nominate myself. I could use the spar.

5. He wouldn't be the first person to want to lynch Zam out of frustration of Zam's poor play.

There we go, 1-5 of your points rebuffed effortlessly. Oh geesh maybe try not to be so trash at attacking people, scare-kun.
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Sir Chris

I am here to bus Zach, Scare. Just show me the sign.
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Sir Chris

Okay I am on call with my girlfriend but I took a break from work. Ask me things since I see Scare trying to TALK SHIT.
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Sir Chris

What are the good reasons to pressure you, Zach?
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Sir Chris

ColZach posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Also again, Zach reiterates the exact same points in the exact same post calling the exact same three people scum like a broken record.

Please come up with some actually new material I seriously mean it

You're not doing anything to help your supposed argument by repeatedly parroting hollow words that no one really cares about at this point. Seriously if you're town you're not doing your job today.

Its almost like the argument against me is stagnant because its terrible and doesnt hold water.

My scum reads today are what they are because most of today has been wasted now on pressuring me for bad reasons.

Shit at least Im HERE. We have plenty of town whove been dead today.

On the other hand maybe Scare is onto something.
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Sir Chris

ScareChan posted...

Also of note

No one has actually went against my case

all they have said is they though Zach was town before I came in

Curious

He is way too reactionary and pissed off to be scum imo.
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Sir Chris

I am actually a bit nervous. This game has an odd feel to it and I haven't quite grasped it like I want. I think zach is a mistake in direction though.
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Sir Chris

Are you even surprised?
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Sir Chris

Alakazam flavor meta is so useless. I really need to sit down with you one day and help you out.
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Sir Chris

Animaniacs scum team yesss
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Sir Chris