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MZero11 posted...

Neablis posted...

MZero11 posted...

Neablis posted...

mzero why didn't you ever check JB?

I'm pretty confident in JB being scum, so I would rather check players I had a lesser read on. I also went mostly for players who had already claimed vanilla (Reg D1, Sheep D2, and God D3). JB did eventually claim yesterday, but I thought he had enough suspicion on him that I could check a player I was less confident on

Well now you put me in a conundrum, I do like your answer and agree with you on JB.

So who am i missing at this point that I should be looking at? HB?Ashe?

Its a interesting situation

I mean God or Ben could still be scum that didn't/couldn't act the night I slept with them

this is true, or they could of acted alternative nights.

In any case i still want to lynch JB i think in any case

Ashe is a bit strange to me, voting record before sheep was amazing. Had a few posts I agreed with but has largely flown under the radar.

Granted it has been a busy time of the year as well but yesterday voting with the confirmed town and leaving basically on sheep sat a bit wrong with me as well.

In any case talk to me about ashe then death.

We would not lose a lynch either by no lynch at this point obviously, I think its worth talking about however I think we do have some leads to actually try to hit scum today as well.

MZero11 posted...

Neablis posted...

mzero why didn't you ever check JB?

I'm pretty confident in JB being scum, so I would rather check players I had a lesser read on. I also went mostly for players who had already claimed vanilla (Reg D1, Sheep D2, and God D3). JB did eventually claim yesterday, but I thought he had enough suspicion on him that I could check a player I was less confident on

Well now you put me in a conundrum, I do like your answer and agree with you on JB.

So who am i missing at this point that I should be looking at? HB?Ashe?

Its a interesting situation

more than likely in that situation mzero would probably be shot, which wouldn't be a horible thing per se...its one less person in the suspect list.

Personally I sort of believe mzero today, it points to IGCD being town right now... which casts a pretty big doubt on what i'm thinking about the game.

mzero why didn't you ever check JB?

@Hbthebattle why igcd over JB today so far?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Death was john/mzero here at deadline?

You could of asked me :'(

Mzero was asleep I believe, john switched to sheep to save himself near the end I believe

Will you tell me IGCD why you jumped off of JB and onto sheep, and also could you inform me who you think scum is today and what the last scum are of course in that statement as well?

thats funny a bit....

i'll be honest.

If there is a guilty scan on JB....I am going to be so salty we lynched sheep instead.

I do not think (i can't remember) if ashe has claimed at this point

. Ashethan
2. benjamin3740
8. Hbthebattle
10. IfGodCouldDie
11. Johnbobb
13. MZero11

This is basically the list of "unconfirmed" people. I took chris out as there is a check on him, and withanother check with red which I hope is in this group we can take someone else out as well.

whatcha think death? I currently have Ben as town in this situation, I also think that mzero is more likely town than JB , I think Hb is probably town I did not like his push on sheep that much though so there is some doubt but his voting record and I believe the scum team prodded at him as well d1.

This just leaves in my mind the scum team would have to be some form of combination of Ashe/JB (or mzero i suppose)/ IGCD.

Who could I be wrong on here or need to reread?

Like just to expound a bit, most of the time i think i would not really be looking at Ashe, really clean game. besides the sheep lynch has seemed to always be on the correct side of everything has made little to no waves, it almost just seems to clean to me. They have just existed almost, some posts i've read I have went yeah this sounds like town but yesterday especially with how Ashe voted sheep and then just didn't have any other impact made me really question this read i guess.

Really quiet in here today

Ashe, take me through your thoughts of yesterday and the previous few days? Where are you in the game really besides one of jb or igcd is scum? who else is scum?

Morning,

I think we should lynch JB today, ##vote: JohnBobb

I am currently working under the idea the scum team is something like John/IGCD/Ashe at this point.

In any case i'll be around some this morning.

Tbh I think sheep has been moderately town today but I think it's better to not have a tie.

So we should lynch jb in any case XD

Maybe so, maybe I'm just being paranoid currently.

Still dont like the sheep lynch atm though

Like hb feels like the scum who feel a mislynch and throw everything they have in an attempt to get that mislynch.

It's just so strange how his push is coming across, even his weird strange you would jump into the weaker scum role.

It's just a crap push to ne.

So, I dont think I want to vote sheep today tbh.

I hope I'm wrong and he turns up scum.

I have a couple of misgivings today I feel a bit crazy atm tbh. Hb feels off in his push.

Ashe not being around for most of the day also sorta runs me badly tbh.

It changes everything though sheep.

Plum was the obviously weaker scum role and you limp jumped off because you hated the train.

I give you you were the real counterwagon for most the day though as I said before

Why am I not trustworthy :( I am basically confirmed town going for John. That has to count for something.

I will be in and out until eod, sheep could be scum it's true. I think John is slightly more likely at this point.

And I thought I was one of the main dyl pushes early XD.

In any case sheep why are you trying to claim some hand in the dyl lynch when if not for corrik ar would of went to extra innings? You helped give the tie in the final minutes so any push you helped with on dyl kinda falls through

##vote: Johnbobb

Just for proper things

red13n posted...

Neab, one thing I would consider, and admittedly, I'm not sure how it affects your thinking(And I'm not trying to affect it, just give you notice). If scum didnt have anyone that cared, it is very possible plum was allowed to play blind for day 1.

You know this is why I am struggling with sheep. If scum had just given up by the time the dyl lynch happened for instance totally demoralized could be that they didnt care if any town got pushed.

I think though, and my understanding could be warped. I feel like if sheep was/is scum he would be someone who cared to try to get a lynch off of a scum partner into a townie or at leas th head that way. D1 he did help il n this but do did other confirmed town, d2 he goes from a stronger role in dyl to a weaker in plum.

Sadly that is a negative for someone already on thin ice. We have a red check d3.

Past d2 though sheep has always been the counter wagon.

Its interesting but frustrating if true.

Chris, me saying I disagree with the POE would be quite...wrong of me. I love poe.

I think in this case however we have to look at how d2 played out, it is giving me the biggest pause.

Plum had already bussed his teammate d1 so that's not exactly a Greta point I am about to make. But the way the lynch played out with plum going hard like he did on sheep. Especially trying the voted up before we got a dyl wagon really going.

It really feels like to me sheep was the counterwagon on the day for scum.

I truly believe johnbob is the better lynch, I understand wanting to clear up the ed wagon tbh, but its past a point where that is only what we should do.

I just do not think this is the optimal path

Sheep007 posted...

I have plenty of enthusiasm right now and did most of D1/D2. Wrong place wrong time... I'll give ya that.

I think your level of enthusiasm was different this game than the past few games. You feel more subdued and we didnt line up to to much this game as we went through.

Tbh the reg shot made you look bad because of the semi hard defense. I mean everyone sides with scum at some poi t though

If you have a red check on sheep I would like to hear it tbh.

I am not super convinced sheep is scum...like I think there is a possibility. D2 makes more sense to me as sheep being the sc um m counterwagon than we have three scum up for lynch that day.

I think he does have problems such as a lack of enthusiasm and being wrong place wrong time.

But there are several moments I think I just do not know.

I am more sure of jb I think.

Sheep007 posted...

Neablis posted...

I mean I'm not fundamentally against a sheep lynch, I think jb is a better lynch however as we are pretty sure that one of jb and mzero are scum

This is an awful trap to fall into. It's rarely that simple and it's so easy to mislynch twice using it. I've fallen back into it several times after thinking "no I won't think that again".

Let me put it this way, the way mzero is reading the game makes me think that he is most likely to be town.

JB is just putting posts together and not interacting and seems to be skipping posts. He is not invested in the game and his belting history is roughly like yours but I think slightly worse, and his reactions to the game just about seal it for me.

Really I know you want to be a martyr and I'll admit you probably will be lynched but I really think JB is the best lynch today even outside one of mzero/jb.

I mean I'm not fundamentally against a sheep lynch, I think jb is a better lynch however as we are pretty sure that one of jb and mzero are scum

##vote john

ScareChan posted...

would like to hear why john

Sure there is a few reasons

First I think he makes sense in the POE. There are two or three people I haven't really cleared. The three would be mzero/sheep/johnbob (yes I think igcd could be town), I think that one of mzero/jb are scum. Mzero was attacked by reg, jb was sort of ignored by most of the scum team. He also ended up on the wrong side of the lynch most if the time.

He also had an over reaction to dyl getting lynched, and just seems well over the top for town.

He also is just casually reading and not paying attention. His reads make it seem like he is just existing and trying to slide by also.

In any case why would t you want to lynch hkm?

I think we should lynch john @Sheep007 I expect your vote on him when i look again

I just dont think jbob is actually reading the game at this point.

ScareChan posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

I dont think there are many more though
4 masons is already pushing it

yeah but if someone tries to lie then death can confirm or deny them too right now

Correct and if they lie red or death confirms who is what.

Hell who knows what shads scans are at this poi t

I think the rest should just mash claim tbh.

If someone who isnt already confirmed claims thief death just puts us closer. Right now what three people left are confirmed town or close enough with a good many others who are townish based off of actions taken during the game?

I sort of like a mass claim

Hey I hope all you guys have a great christmas.

Hey guys, il be here closer to eod no worries!

May I ask which action ok chris or at least tell us before eod ?

I'm glad I killed reg even if he wouldn't of ever been inducted probably. Really did help the group

Where did he go cor? Or just know he moved

##vote scep

Interesting

And corrik can confirm or deny this info I hope in any case with scep

I know I said this earlier.

But it's super interesting to me that we are seeing so many confidants as vanilla and the thieves themselves and the big bads.

And sheep ended up as a random teacher

It doesnt prove anything just yeah

Scep claim or you will be lynched, I know I said I'm going to bed.

But I was dumb to corrik earlier and wanted to join his crusade ftw.

I think red sifted his role as our fine feline mascot and then changed d2 with a plan to add more people to the Mason chat.

And with the traitor dead already I think its safeish to think they are both townish

Anyway I will be around tommorow see you guys then.

It would be silly if we had 3 scum up for lynch yesterday

ScareChan posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

Ah, how nebulous.

Well, I am not a phantom thief. Why does that matter though, wasn't that Death's role that cared?

So you know the nuances of death role but not why people suspect you or sheep ?

Oooo

Let's break it down, corrik claims to have a red check on you.

So blocker is dead, we have three confirmed townies and a claimed scanner.

Just claim corrick can end up confirmed and if he is lying red can counter the info and we have scum cor caught.

Sceptilesolar you are under much scrutiny thoughts quickly

No just both of you claim and we can make sense of it tbh

Plum is not claiming

You and red have competing scans just both claim the action and we probably have scum in one of those.

@DoomTheGyarados chris we need you in the drama

Excellent topic title btw scare

We basically have red claiming what amounts to a scan on plum as town and corrik claiming he has a scan on plum of scum.

Oh the drams