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benjamin3740
12/28/18 5:43:02 PM
#151:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Sheep007 posted...
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It should worry any member of town they are not listening to confirmed town with unknown cop scans in their pocket tbh.

There is no cop scan on me and if Red said his scans it would confirm that


Yeah but it doesnt matter. Maybe he has one on john. Or he doesnt. Either way lynching you 100% helps town according to town with more knowledge than me if you are town I am sorry but you are poe'd for being on a bad place and it has to be resolved.

Oh, well at least you can see where I'm coming from then
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DoomTheGyarados
12/28/18 5:44:26 PM
#152:


I even mean maybe John is scanned innocent!

Ben please stop being silly.
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 5:46:14 PM
#153:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
It should worry any member of town they are not listening to confirmed town with unknown cop scans in their pocket tbh.

He clearly DOESN'T have a scan on sheep, or he'd have been clear. No reason to hold onto that at all. In fact the wording of "Johnbob isn't flipping today" makes me think he probably has a guilty on johnbob. The strat now is that he wants to clear the pool of unknowns so he can hold onto his reveals for some epic "I would like to solve the sentence" post, I guess? >_>

I've learned I can't just blindly trust town to do the right thing.


Ben, please stop and vote Sheep. This isn't blind trust this is literally confirmed motivated red who is just as good as me at the height of my town powers (and also about 5% as common)

Guess I'm an anarchist because I hate everything about this. Oh well, I just like to be right. So as long as that happens I'll forgive everyone

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ScareChan
12/28/18 5:47:12 PM
#154:


ben chris whyis scare bad boi

scare is good

for why red

pls
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Hbthebattle
12/28/18 5:47:33 PM
#155:


Scare bad boy because he wont vote
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Hbthebattle
12/28/18 5:49:18 PM
#156:


Ben, please answer me. Who other than John do you think are likely scum?
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ScareChan
12/28/18 5:49:25 PM
#157:


scare held off vote because red said he wanted time and no hammers
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htaeD
12/28/18 5:50:18 PM
#158:


Scare I dont know what you are doing, but stop it.

Also dont ask me. if Red is gonna be vague, so am I.
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 5:52:40 PM
#159:


He said John isn't flipping today. That means NOT an innocent scan confirmed
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Hbthebattle
12/28/18 5:53:30 PM
#160:


Ben please stop ignoring my question.
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 5:53:58 PM
#161:


ScareChan posted...
ben chris whyis scare bad boi

scare is good

for why red

pls

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ScareChan
12/28/18 5:54:24 PM
#162:


red said he was mad at me, I wanted to know why

I thought all my night actions were logical and I have been putting in work everyday so I dont knowwhats the issue
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 5:54:57 PM
#163:


Hbthebattle posted...
Ben, please answer me. Who other than John do you think are likely scum?

It's down to Ashe, God, and Sheep
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 5:55:26 PM
#164:


Ashe is far from surefire town. Not even close to HB levels
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Sheep007
12/28/18 5:55:52 PM
#165:


If John is scum then it's probably with Chris and one of the Ashe/HB/Scare conspiracy options. John/Chris/HB is probably the really out there scum team but even then I don't particularly see it.
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Hbthebattle
12/28/18 5:55:54 PM
#166:


benjamin3740 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Ben, please answer me. Who other than John do you think are likely scum?

It's down to Ashe, God, and Sheep

Are you worried at all that 2/3s of those are on the same lynch as you?
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 5:55:58 PM
#167:


Hbthebattle posted...
Ben please stop ignoring my question.

I'm at work on the clock at the moment
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 5:59:26 PM
#168:


Hbthebattle posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Ben, please answer me. Who other than John do you think are likely scum?

It's down to Ashe, God, and Sheep

Are you worried at all that 2/3s of those are on the same lynch as you?

No because sheep being scum is far removed from John being scum. Plus they've been conditioned to bus because of Chris' post
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:01:54 PM
#169:


Hbthebattle posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Ben, please answer me. Who other than John do you think are likely scum?

It's down to Ashe, God, and Sheep

Are you worried at all that 2/3s of those are on the same lynch as you?

Ben is wrong about one of his solid townreads, I'm almost certain. Don't see a John/God/Ashe team whatsoever.

Also another thing which people seem to have forgotten, I'm just generally really salty that people still want to kill me after I led a counterlynch (when I was the top option) on a valuable scum role D2 when I could've chosen almost anyone on the Ed lynch. Like, I just don't see a scenario in which anyone as town thinks "oh yeah that's obviously three scum" especially when two of the scum (and Chris who also has a decent chance of being scum) were parked on me all day.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/28/18 6:03:42 PM
#170:


I believe you.
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 6:04:38 PM
#171:


Sheep007 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Ben, please answer me. Who other than John do you think are likely scum?

It's down to Ashe, God, and Sheep

Are you worried at all that 2/3s of those are on the same lynch as you?

Ben is wrong about one of his solid townreads, I'm almost certain. Don't see a John/God/Ashe team whatsoever.

Also another thing which people seem to have forgotten, I'm just generally really salty that people still want to kill me after I led a counterlynch (when I was the top option) on a valuable scum role D2 when I could've chosen almost anyone on the Ed lynch. Like, I just don't see a scenario in which anyone as town thinks "oh yeah that's obviously three scum" especially when two of the scum (and Chris who also has a decent chance of being scum) were parked on me all day.

Which one? And yeah Chris is indeed an interesting anomaly
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 6:05:34 PM
#172:


Sheep007 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Ben, please answer me. Who other than John do you think are likely scum?

It's down to Ashe, God, and Sheep

Are you worried at all that 2/3s of those are on the same lynch as you?

Ben is wrong about one of his solid townreads, I'm almost certain. Don't see a John/God/Ashe team whatsoever.

Also another thing which people seem to have forgotten, I'm just generally really salty that people still want to kill me after I led a counterlynch (when I was the top option) on a valuable scum role D2 when I could've chosen almost anyone on the Ed lynch. Like, I just don't see a scenario in which anyone as town thinks "oh yeah that's obviously three scum" especially when two of the scum (and Chris who also has a decent chance of being scum) were parked on me all day.

Which one did you lead?
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:07:43 PM
#173:


Look, Ben, I know sheeping Chris and Red is a good idea in theory at this point, but I'm almost sure Chris is scum. You've said yourself that based on my alignment Chris is probably scum. If you're gonna trust in your own reads in any game, now is probably the time. I feel like I'm the only person who's aware of how easily we could throw this current situation away by just following the big players and it's really frustrating cause I don't want to lose yet another game as town due to midgame malaise.

benjamin3740 posted...
Which one? And yeah Chris is indeed an interesting anomaly

Well, Chris wasn't on that list so I'd most likely say him. But there's a chance of MZero or HB and maybe Scare, although the last one resolves itself as has been covered before.
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 6:08:13 PM
#174:


The first quedtion was sup posed to be "which town read am I wrong on"

Besides chris
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:08:34 PM
#175:


benjamin3740 posted...
Which one did you lead?

DYL. I was the first vote on him, early in the day, and I largely tried to call attention to and bring people round to voting him when I was leading.
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 6:08:38 PM
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 6:09:19 PM
#177:


Sheep007 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Which one did you lead?

DYL. I was the first vote on him, early in the day, and I largely tried to call attention to and bring people round to voting him when I was leading.

Oh. ...I felt like I led that one. But no one else seems to think so
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:11:32 PM
#178:


I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/28/18 6:12:16 PM
#179:


Sheep007 posted...
I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 6:12:41 PM
#180:


Sheep007 posted...
Look, Ben, I know sheeping Chris and Red is a good idea in theory at this point, but I'm almost sure Chris is scum. You've said yourself that based on my alignment Chris is probably scum. If you're gonna trust in your own reads in any game, now is probably the time. I feel like I'm the only person who's aware of how easily we could throw this current situation away by just following the big players and it's really frustrating cause I don't want to lose yet another game as town due to midgame malaise.

benjamin3740 posted...
Which one? And yeah Chris is indeed an interesting anomaly

Well, Chris wasn't on that list so I'd most likely say him. But there's a chance of MZero or HB and maybe Scare, although the last one resolves itself as has been covered before.

I already trust in my reads. But I'm giving up and letting Red have the day. Mzero is very likely town if Johnbob is scum, but I guess that does change if john is town
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:13:07 PM
#181:


benjamin3740 posted...
Sheep007 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Which one did you lead?

DYL. I was the first vote on him, early in the day, and I largely tried to call attention to and bring people round to voting him when I was leading.

Oh. ...I felt like I led that one. But no one else seems to think so

You probably did a fair bit of work, since you're the only other person I think I remember making an effort to lynch him. A bunch of others just hopped on at the end iirc.
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:15:04 PM
#182:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.

I'm not sold on the idea of basically the entire scum team bar one trying to kill me D2, though. It seems a bit too much like putting all their eggs in one basket and there were surely easier targets even if I looked the worst on paper.
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Hbthebattle
12/28/18 6:15:08 PM
#183:


Wow anyone else think its odd IGCD only starts contributing when its time to parrot Sheep? When hes repeatedly refused to give his reads and thoughts unless heavily pressed in the past

Food for thought.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/28/18 6:17:19 PM
#184:


Sheep007 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.

I'm not sold on the idea of basically the entire scum team bar one trying to kill me D2, though. It seems a bit too much like putting all their eggs in one basket and there were surely easier targets even if I looked the worst on paper.

You mean like how Chris honestly believes the entire scum team minus plum was on Ed?
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IfGodCouldDie
12/28/18 6:17:34 PM
#185:


Hbthebattle posted...
Wow anyone else think its odd IGCD only starts contributing when its time to parrot Sheep? When hes repeatedly refused to give his reads and thoughts unless heavily pressed in the past

Food for thought.

Please answer my question.
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 6:18:16 PM
#186:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.

I'm not sold on the idea of basically the entire scum team bar one trying to kill me D2, though. It seems a bit too much like putting all their eggs in one basket and there were surely easier targets even if I looked the worst on paper.

You mean like how Chris honestly believes the entire scum team minus plum was on Ed?

He never said that.
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Hbthebattle
12/28/18 6:20:31 PM
#187:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Seriously, is nobody noticing all the scummiest people are on the John train?

The consensus for PoE seems to be me, John and sheep. Where else would Sheep and I go if we are all scum together?

You mean this question? Obviously the answer seems to be Chris, based on how youre pushing him.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/28/18 6:20:47 PM
#188:


benjamin3740 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.

I'm not sold on the idea of basically the entire scum team bar one trying to kill me D2, though. It seems a bit too much like putting all their eggs in one basket and there were surely easier targets even if I looked the worst on paper.

You mean like how Chris honestly believes the entire scum team minus plum was on Ed?

He never said that.

He did though.
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:21:38 PM
#189:


benjamin3740 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.

I'm not sold on the idea of basically the entire scum team bar one trying to kill me D2, though. It seems a bit too much like putting all their eggs in one basket and there were surely easier targets even if I looked the worst on paper.

You mean like how Chris honestly believes the entire scum team minus plum was on Ed?

He never said that.

I don't think he said that but he did say the majority of it probably was. As it stands, it's either 2 or 3 out of 6/7 which is pretty good numbers if a scum wants to mislynch people from there.

Hbthebattle posted...
Wow anyone else think its odd IGCD only starts contributing when its time to parrot Sheep? When hes repeatedly refused to give his reads and thoughts unless heavily pressed in the past

Food for thought.

Anyone else think it's odd HB has done almost nothing but tunnel me for 3 days straight and has repeatedly stated certainty about something he is most definitely incorrect on?
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IfGodCouldDie
12/28/18 6:22:07 PM
#190:


Hbthebattle posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Seriously, is nobody noticing all the scummiest people are on the John train?

The consensus for PoE seems to be me, John and sheep. Where else would Sheep and I go if we are all scum together?

You mean this question? Obviously the answer seems to be Chris, based on how youre pushing him.

I'm not pushing anyone.
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Hbthebattle
12/28/18 6:22:26 PM
#191:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sheep007 posted...
I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.

I'm not sold on the idea of basically the entire scum team bar one trying to kill me D2, though. It seems a bit too much like putting all their eggs in one basket and there were surely easier targets even if I looked the worst on paper.

You mean like how Chris honestly believes the entire scum team minus plum was on Ed?

He never said that.

He did though.

You realize he voted Plum D3, right?
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:23:10 PM
#192:


John has still not claimed and it's very close so I'd like to see that in his first post when he comes in.

@Johnbobb (I don't like pinging people but eh)
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Neablis
12/28/18 6:24:35 PM
#193:


Why am I not trustworthy :( I am basically confirmed town going for John. That has to count for something.

I will be in and out until eod, sheep could be scum it's true. I think John is slightly more likely at this point.

And I thought I was one of the main dyl pushes early XD.

In any case sheep why are you trying to claim some hand in the dyl lynch when if not for corrik ar would of went to extra innings? You helped give the tie in the final minutes so any push you helped with on dyl kinda falls through
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:24:35 PM
#194:


Hbthebattle posted...
You realize he voted Plum D3, right?

Plum was almost certainly scum and no matter how much anyone pushed the people on Ed they would have no excuse for picking them over Plum.
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Hbthebattle
12/28/18 6:24:55 PM
#195:


IfGodCouldDie posted...

I'm not pushing anyone.


IfGodCouldDie posted...
red13n posted...
1. Ashethan
2. benjamin3740
8. Hbthebattle
11. Johnbobb
13. MZero11
19. Sheep007
17. ScareChan

9. htaeD
10. IfGodCouldDie
14. Neablis
15. red13n
20. DoomTheGyarados (replaced Terra-enforcer)

So thats what you have so far. Anyone else you want to remove from the top list or are you ready to start making decisions?

You can remove Chris from the bottom list. I'd end day early if his lynch was at -1 right now.


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Seriously, is nobody noticing all the scummiest people are on the John train?

The consensus for PoE seems to be me, John and sheep. Where else would Sheep and I go if we are all scum together?

This post rings some major alarm bells for me. If John flips scum, I'd like people to look at HB and Chris.

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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:25:48 PM
#196:


Neablis posted...
Why am I not trustworthy :( I am basically confirmed town going for John. That has to count for something.

I will be in and out until eod, sheep could be scum it's true. I think John is slightly more likely at this point.

And I thought I was one of the main dyl pushes early XD.

In any case sheep why are you trying to claim some hand in the dyl lynch when if not for corrik ar would of went to extra innings? You helped give the tie in the final minutes so any push you helped with on dyl kinda falls through

Because he likely wouldn't have been up for lynch if not for him being my counterlynch. Me changing at the end doesn't change that.
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Hbthebattle
12/28/18 6:28:08 PM
#197:


Pretty strange that Sheep changed last minute to the person with the weaker scum power, dont you think?
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Sheep007
12/28/18 6:28:27 PM
#198:


HB, when I flip town (again, I don't care if you "know" I won't, just answer the bloody question), what'll be your thoughts on Chris? How will that be changed from your current thoughts on Chris?
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Neablis
12/28/18 6:28:27 PM
#199:


It changes everything though sheep.

Plum was the obviously weaker scum role and you limp jumped off because you hated the train.

I give you you were the real counterwagon for most the day though as I said before
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benjamin3740
12/28/18 6:30:16 PM
#200:


Hbthebattle posted...
Pretty strange that Sheep changed last minute to the person with the weaker scum power, dont you think?

I did it. Scare did it. So no its not that strange
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