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Corrik7 posted...

Town "VANILLA". you say?

Good night, sweet prince.

This is absolutely not a reason to lynch anyone this game.

Read day 1 avengers mafia chris, it was a joke.

Hb I'll same time claim with you in 5 minutes.

That said, lea, if you didn't catch it and i dont think anyone mentioned it(how boring), you were the one other person on the hb lynch that gave independent thought.

I mean i can tell you there is a higher chance of you being town than scum if it'll make you feel better, but that'd also just be raw number semantics.

Lea3Lea posted...

People should have some opinion on me.

Not having a lean is still an opinion.

turbopuns3 posted...

Which I guess begs the question of what makes me seem town to you?

Just the general back and forths from you. They very much feel like a continuation of you from last game.

I probably need to check up on the miller claim reactions st some point with a little more vigor, but definitely a town lean right now.

turbopuns3 posted...

That's interesting to me because I feel Lea has commented on a much wider variety of topics and players than I have, probably at greater length, too.

I'm aware, doesn't mean I have a read on Lea. They have a habit of gaining confidence in a game with Chris. Easy person for them to latch onto.

turbopuns3 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

You are on the town side of my scale.

Is Lea town.

He hasn't moved left or right.

turbopuns3 posted...

Ok let's stop discussing Sheep Theory and get to the meat of it.

Red am I town.

You are on the town side of my scale.

pezloco posted...

Is HB the kind of player who should know there's a difference between town being anti-town and scum play?

He is absolutely 100% acutely aware of this, yes. Though antitown may be the wrong phrasing to use here.

Lea3Lea posted...

By instead condemning people for being "sheep" it sends a message to people not to join in, which hamstrings the effectiveness.

I think your logic here is reasonable to think but not true. If you get too many people being sheep and you think hb is town, the value of "hey these people were just sheep" goes down. Same with if hes scum tbh. Less value if there isn't more to differentiate in reason.

Lopen posted...

If Chris laid out a compelling case then why is there necessarily a need to add to it?

Thats part of the point you apparently failed to read Lopen. The case wasn't even particularly strong.

That is a bad autocomplete for substance.

Lopen posted...

The question should be less whether a lynch has sheep and whether the case on the lynch

Then talk about the substantial. You can follow onto a lynch without being sheep.

Lea3Lea posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

I'm not attacking anyone for doing something. I've openly attacked a group of people for doing nothing but be sheep.

By throwing shade at the first lynch to actually gain useful traction by saying everyone is sheep, regardless of voting reasons, it sure seems like your ideal day one is 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 votals for ~original thought~

My ideal day is a trail of independent thought. Say we allynch hb and just go chris said it lynch hb.

What do we gain from that lynch? Not much everyone had the same reasoning.

Say chris ends up scum even. Now you've dug an even bigger hole.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

I'm not attacking anyone for doing something. I've openly attacked a group of people for doing nothing but be sheep.

This is not what any of them have done this game btw

That is what they did in this scenario though. Only one of them provided any sort of independent thought even.

I'm not attacking anyone for doing something. I've openly attacked a group of people for doing nothing but be sheep.

We have a book on hb now. Highly motivated isn't in his repertoire.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Was me quantifying my vague statement. It was a couple of paragraphs down so I understood how you missed it.

Honestly, it's literally just restating what you already said in slightly longer form. Its not really much of an expansion on it.

Lea3Lea posted...

What's your great plan to find scum on D1, Red? I'm all ears!

Typically the plan is just lynch them.

Burn a sheep definitely just became an option for that.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

HB's reasoning for digging my post and his thoughts backing up why it stood out and giving me the benefit of the doubt just... seem off.

Actually this is reminding me of a game I played earlier this year where someone did that, let's vote HB.

So this is the main reason from that post that i see Chris callimg hb scum. Its vague and anecdotal. The sheep here have been noted.

Puns if i sink my teeth into you immediately final day last game do you get feisty like this or nervous?

turbopuns3 posted...

No? Why would I take it back

Honestly, because I kind of really was expecting a no miller game.

Alternatively, i was maybe expecting two or three millers.

It was no fun as scum being stuck with a guy basically confirmed town because he claimed miller. Figured we'd get some mold breaking.

Also early in topic real bad look for Lopen. Lots of distracting noncontent.

Also my phone autocorrected meta to mode it should know better.

Also i know we talked SK postgame but we also spent a bit talking about breaking the b8 miller mode. That definitely gives me doubt to us having a single miller claim.

I'm not sure anyone answered me if puns took back the miller claim or not. I'm also curious if anyone else claimed miller.

Wait is that saying we are getting a total number of endbosses close to 2 Final Mix?

Take all my money.

Basically, the idea that someone could even have some sort of SK tell or hint, especially on day fucking 1z is crazy. You literally just play as if town.

pezloco posted...

What exactly do you guys mean by SK hunting? Like that phrase to me says, hey I want to find the SK. I'm not saying there is an SK. I'm saying let's not forget one COULD exist. By the time D2 rolls around and we've all gone back to the idea it doesn't exist, we won't remember to bring it up again. So, if I repeatedly say it now. People will remember it if weird things happen later. If weird things don't happen, then it gets forgotten and we move on.

For one, we haven't actually had an SK on b8 in years,. Two, town hunts mafia, sk hunts mafia, mafia hunts town and sk.

If you are in topic hunting an SK, well, which of those categories do you suddenly fit?

Anyway that is back to work for me see you all later.

What did dowolf do

Only if town.

Ulti got pretty mean last game dont expect it to last.

Also corrik has lathered the butter hard on chris it has been noted.

Han you know better than to not bring the player list to the new topic.

Tom do you have any roommate power reads right now my trust in pez has been immediately tested.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Pez has a pet SK theory based off meta and he wanted to apply it. I would say we're not really hunting SK

That...sounds suspiciously like hunting SK to me.

Also i dont want to or have time to read through right now, has puns taken back that millier claim yet!

Why are we hunting SK.

turbopuns3 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Oh hell i am not going to have fun reading through 400 posts.

Hi red it is important that we connect early

I look forward to your analysis

At this rate its going to be like 800 before i get off of work.

Oh hell i am not going to have fun reading through 400 posts.

Clearly just cap and hydra a few slots.

MZero11 posted...

I just expect more from Town Red, especially since he got back from vacation. But there's not a lot that makes me think he's town OR scum, which isn't a great sign

If anything its been a bad mix of vacation and then work. I also had two days basically stolen from me due to airport shenanigans when my flight got canceled.

MZero11 posted...

I forgot to mention this before but by the time you explained how the situation was different than last game, I'm 99% sure IGCD had already admitted the fake scan so there wasn't really a reason to respond to it

I think i had said this before. Because i dont think i was demoralized at that point. Can check.

(it was the opposite of damning, even)

MZero11 posted...

uncountered tracker's scan

That was the whole point though. The scan was no longer damning.

And I'm going to reiterate that is where panth went yeah red your argument is good but I'm just going to ignore you and vote ulti anyway.

It was blatant scum awful and got him caught.

The other option is kill mzero without giving him say. Not very sound.

turbopuns3 posted...

Can you expand on this

At some point the game theoretically becomes x v y.

turbopuns3 posted...

Like I think all the rereading you've done was looking up stuff about yourself, not me or mzero.

I've done pretty much a full game reread. I'm not sure what more you are expecting. If i had an aha moment on either of you I'd have posted it.