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| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 8:52:22 PM #16 | Uglybass69 posted... How are we going to watch Buzzard now? thankfully buzzard is owned by oscillascope, not disney, and can be wherever they want it to be (amazon prime atm)! everyone here should watch it!!!! --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 8:49:02 PM #14 | BeyondWalls posted... Zithers posted...Kitt posted...Did the other topic get deleted? the poll options previously had parantheticals where i called people bootlickers, fanboys, and accused them of not liking movies. clearly this is trolling! --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 8:35:25 PM #9 | @PatrickMahomes https://twitter.com/thejoshl/status/1187061965727948802 here's that twitter thread again btw from a programmer who i think was part of this piece --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 5:33:43 PM #8 | obviously the mod was a huge disney stan --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 5:33:30 PM #7 | Kitt posted... Did the other topic get deleted? ya --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 5:12:35 PM #1 | what do you think about this you guys - Results (9 votes)
X-Men in the MCU!
22.22% (2 votes)
2
They can do what they want with their "content"
0% (0 votes)
0
They can do what they want with their "IP"
0% (0 votes)
0
I don't care because I don't watch old movies anyway
0% (0 votes)
0
I don't care because I don't like going to the theater
0% (0 votes)
0
I for one welcome our Disney overlords
11.11% (1 vote)
1
This is bad lol
66.67% (6 votes)
6
https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html Fox classics are going into the vault as well, for reasons the company wont publicly explain or justify. And Disneys vaultification of Fox titles is bad news for movie theaters that depend on repertory screenings to shore up their increasingly shaky bottom lines. The decision to broaden Disneys artificial scarcity tactic to include thousands of movies released by a onetime rival is a wounding blow to a swath of theatrical venues that used to be able to show them, and where film buffs were able to see them with an audience. In the preceding few months, Neff had heard rumblings in his Google group of film programmers that Disney was about to start treating older Fox titles as they do older Disney titles making them mostly unavailable to for-profit theaters. More and more film programmers and theater managers were reporting that they had suddenly and cryptically been told by their studio contacts that Foxs back catalogue was no longer available to show. Some got calls informing them that an existing booking had been revoked. More than one exhibition professional contacted for this article speculated that Disneys overall goal is to claim as many screens at a theater as possible for its newer titles, even if some of them are packing the house but others are selling just a handful of tickets per show. A former theater manager for a major chain, who asked not to be identified in this piece, says, It seems short-sighted, you know? But they do it, I think, just to keep a Sony title out, to keep a Universal title out. The Fox freeze out, he speculates, may be an extension of that tactic: Disney considers any screen thats taken up by an older movie, even one thats owned by Disney, to be a screen that could be showing the new Marvel or Star Wars title instead. Or showing Orangutans 4 to an audience of three. tl;dr - only non-profit theaters, museums, and specially approved anniversary screenings will be allowed for fox titles. if you are a for-profit theater that shows first-run titles of any kind (most indie theaters), you will not be permitted to screen them. presumably because disney wants you to subscribe to their streaming services. blech! --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 12:27:50 PM #15 | BeyondWalls posted... "The Vault" has always been a stupid and anti-consumer gimmick. "Buy that DVD now because it's going back in the Vault for another 10 years!" their IP they can do what they want with it etc --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 12:16:25 PM #13 | Zithers posted... PatrickMahomes posted...Are there even any new fox movies of value coming out? @PatrickMahomes https://twitter.com/thejoshl/status/1187061965727948802 He's actually responded to Bob Iger's "bullshit" comments about Scorsese and Coppola before it spirals into him talking about Disney withholding stuff from his theater. --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 12:07:42 PM #10 | TheGoldenEel posted... Capitalism was a mistake i honestly cannot tell if the first replies were just their gut reactions or they read my poll first and responded accordingly. but yeah i'm no master of economics however it is my understanding that capitalism is great to jumpstart an economy but eventually you will reach 'late stage capitalism' where all money and power is consolidated within the hands of a few, which is bad!!!! clearly!!! --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 12:06:06 PM #8 | PatrickMahomes posted... Are there even any new fox movies of value coming out? Fox Searchlight seems to be operating the same as it did before the Disney purchase. However it is my understanding according to a programmer I follow on Twitter that booking Searchlight titles (such as Oscar hopefuls Jojo Rabbit and A Hidden Life) is becoming harder to do as well. Or at least that the charges for booking are going way up. Will try to find the thread in a second. --- |
| Topic | hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters |
| Zithers 10/25/19 11:57:34 AM #1 | what do you think about this you guys - Results (1 vote)
(Fanboy) X-Men in the MCU!
0% (0 votes)
0
(Bootlicker) They can do what they want with their "content"
0% (0 votes)
0
(More annoying bootlicker) They can do what they want with their "IP"
0% (0 votes)
0
(Doesn't like movies) I don't care because I don't watch old movies anyway
0% (0 votes)
0
(Doesn't like movies again) I don't care because I don't like going to the theater
100% (1 vote)
1
(Unironic fanboy again) I for one welcome our Disney overlords
0% (0 votes)
0
https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html Fox classics are going into the vault as well, for reasons the company wont publicly explain or justify. And Disneys vaultification of Fox titles is bad news for movie theaters that depend on repertory screenings to shore up their increasingly shaky bottom lines. The decision to broaden Disneys artificial scarcity tactic to include thousands of movies released by a onetime rival is a wounding blow to a swath of theatrical venues that used to be able to show them, and where film buffs were able to see them with an audience. In the preceding few months, Neff had heard rumblings in his Google group of film programmers that Disney was about to start treating older Fox titles as they do older Disney titles making them mostly unavailable to for-profit theaters. More and more film programmers and theater managers were reporting that they had suddenly and cryptically been told by their studio contacts that Foxs back catalogue was no longer available to show. Some got calls informing them that an existing booking had been revoked. More than one exhibition professional contacted for this article speculated that Disneys overall goal is to claim as many screens at a theater as possible for its newer titles, even if some of them are packing the house but others are selling just a handful of tickets per show. A former theater manager for a major chain, who asked not to be identified in this piece, says, It seems short-sighted, you know? But they do it, I think, just to keep a Sony title out, to keep a Universal title out. The Fox freeze out, he speculates, may be an extension of that tactic: Disney considers any screen thats taken up by an older movie, even one thats owned by Disney, to be a screen that could be showing the new Marvel or Star Wars title instead. Or showing Orangutans 4 to an audience of three. tl;dr - only non-profit theaters, museums, and specially approved anniversary screenings will be allowed for fox titles. if you are a for-profit theater that shows first-run titles of any kind (most indie theaters), you will not be permitted to screen them. presumably because disney wants you to subscribe to their streaming services. blech! --- |
| Topic | Francis Ford Coppola says Marvel movies are despicable |
| Zithers 10/19/19 11:50:51 PM #49 | vigorm0rtis posted... Zithers posted... no, but that kind of money is still significant. and i don't think there was/is any resentment. scorsese, coppola, spielberg, and lucas were all friendly back in the day. especially coppola/lucas and lucas/spielberg. lucas almost made apocalypse now before star wars got funded. spielberg obv made the most 'blockbuster'-y as he virtually created the event with jaws and got the most monetary success. and i'm sure scorsese and coppola enjoy his movies. --- |
| Topic | Francis Ford Coppola says Marvel movies are despicable |
| Zithers 10/19/19 11:41:26 PM #44 | vigorm0rtis posted... Banjo2553 posted... the first two godfather movies made plenty of money. i think both finished in the top five of the annual box office for their respective years. lol i can't imagine a 3 hour rated R drama with no comic relief making $300m+ domestic right now --- |
| Topic | Francis Ford Coppola says Marvel movies are despicable |
| Zithers 10/19/19 11:23:23 PM #33 | rexcrk posted... Im gonna post what I said in this topic on another board: they make the comments because they are asked. scorsese originally drew ire from fans because he was asked what he thought of the marvel movies. he answered. same here with coppola. no one is jealous. i also like plenty of mainstream movies. just not superhero ones. pretty cool imo! --- |
| Topic | Francis Ford Coppola says Marvel movies are despicable |
| Zithers 10/19/19 11:00:44 PM #21 | Kensaimage posted... It all just comes off like sour grapes to me, to be honest. the guys who made goodfellas, taxi driver, raging bull, the godfather's, and apocalypse now are jealous of marvel movies lol --- |
| Topic | Francis Ford Coppola says Marvel movies are despicable |
| Zithers 10/19/19 10:59:58 PM #19 | sinners_demise posted... I liked Jack but that being said, has he made anything relevant since then? a lot of ppl will go to bat for twixt, tetro, and youth without youth. --- |
| Topic | Francis Ford Coppola says Marvel movies are despicable |
| Zithers 10/19/19 10:59:26 PM #16 | Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... What did we "learn" from Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, the list goes on and on and on. did you know that some words have more than one definition? pretty weird! --- |
| Topic | Francis Ford Coppola says Marvel movies are despicable |
| Zithers 10/19/19 10:38:52 PM #1 | https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/entertainment/coppola-backs-scorsese-in-row-over-marvel-films "When Martin Scorsese says that the Marvel pictures are not cinema, he's right because we expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some inspiration. go off king!!! --- |
| Topic | which game should i play on my xbox 360 |
| Zithers 10/19/19 5:30:50 PM #1 | pick one - Results (1 vote)
banjo kazooie
0% (0 votes)
0
beyond good and evil
100% (1 vote)
1
braid
0% (0 votes)
0
which should i pick and WHY have only played banjo but that was like 20 years ago - remember digging it a lot. rented from blockbuster and i don't think i ever beat it. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/13/19 12:00:52 AM #116 | dont think anyone compares to spielberg when it comes to high concept escapism. his run of jaws, et, raiders, and close encounters is a miracle. all 10/10 movies (have not seen 1941 or duel sorry) --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 4:27:55 PM #102 | RchHomieQuanChi posted... Zithers posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Zithers posted...btw who were the critics that loved black panther? still waiting for you to name some. i bet you don't even read criticism LOL. you probably watch stuckmann or RLM. given that all i have to do is say "marvel movies aren't good" to make 99.9% of people consider everything i say to be invalid, i assume many people don't take me seriously. they don't like to admit it, but people hate "art" and only want to experience and re-experience the familiar. things that make them feel cozy and don't make them think. tis a shame because i have plenty of great movie recs. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 4:05:08 PM #97 | RchHomieQuanChi posted... Zithers posted...btw who were the critics that loved black panther? still waiting for you to name some. i bet you don't even read criticism LOL. you probably watch stuckmann or RLM. you said "reputable film critics" so i can only assume you know who is reputable. rotten tomatoes considers youtubers and bloggers to be reputable enough to get counted towards the... "tomatometer" (embarrassing) even though they probably have pretty limited knowledge on the art of cinema. i'll consider this one an L for you. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 4:02:53 PM #96 | RchHomieQuanChi posted... Zithers posted... a24, annapurna, neon, bleecker street, oscilloscope, magnolia, and various other great distributors aren't owned by larger studios. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 3:56:32 PM #90 | RchHomieQuanChi posted... Zithers posted...>rushing out to see studio filmmaking when i say "studio filmmaking" i mean major studios, obviously. disney/fox, universal, paramount, sony, and warner bros. this is generally not lost on people who know anything about movies but i suppose i have to spell everything out for you, similar to how marvel movies spell out everything for their viewers. btw who were the critics that loved black panther? still waiting for you to name some. i bet you don't even read criticism LOL. you probably watch stuckmann or RLM. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 3:46:24 PM #86 | >rushing out to see studio filmmaking couldn't be me. especially since i've never bothered with the rocky series in the first place. unsane is incredible. its use of iphone cinematography is probably the only good example of it. really adds an extra layer of claustrophobia and cheap sleaziness to a pulpy story. plus it shits on the health "care" industry and pharmaceuticals. hell yeah. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 3:32:46 PM #81 | RchHomieQuanChi posted...
like who? --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 3:29:52 PM #79 | RchHomieQuanChi posted... Zithers posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Zithers posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Zithers posted... according to me, the cinephile. not sure how someone can watch great movies from the past few years like, say, mission: impossible - fallout, phantom thread, unsane, once upon a time in hollywood, burning, coco, brawl in cell block 99, etc and then watch black panther and go "yes, this is pure cinema and not a factory product" --- |
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| Zithers 10/12/19 3:23:08 PM #76 | RchHomieQuanChi posted... Zithers posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Zithers posted... well if they're fantastic and black panther is steaming garbage... then what went wrong? --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 3:21:06 PM #74 | RchHomieQuanChi posted... Zithers posted... i mean, there was nothing impressive about the movie in any fashion. so like i said, could just be that he's not good at making movies. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 3:09:07 PM #72 | Smashingpmkns posted... Zithers posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Zithers posted... right, and then i added that coogler might just be a bad or anonymous filmmaker, as i didn't see anything that differentiated black panther from the past marvel movies i saw. probably won't get around to watching fruitvale or creed to confirm this though. too many minnelli movies to watch. just recorded father of the bride this morning. gonna be dope as hell. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:51:36 PM #68 | Smashingpmkns posted... Zithers posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Literally any time he's speaking with MBJ. Or Danai as well. Coogler uses a ton of over the shoulder shots in his films, probably more so than any MCU director, and there are a ton in BP. Even the action scenes are very Coogler. The scene in the club is 100% Coogler lol she's pretty popular. so popular i have seen her in one movie. don't pay much attention to actor names in these movies tbh. black panther reminded me why i quit the series. i've explained why several times in this very thread. will do it one more time for you: it is an ugly movie with bad writing and bad directing and bad editing, like the previous ten entries that i saw. it is the antithesis of what i look for in a good movie. sorry that this upsets you and that you have to confront that maybe you only like something because of brand recognition and because you have devoted your personality to liking comic books and related ephemera. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:47:32 PM #66 | IloveJesus posted... Zithers posted...cinephiles use the word 'cinema' differently from normies. good definition of it by steven soderbergh: we can use a different word. art wouldn't be right, since all movies are art. specificity of vision is too long. sov. sauve. do you want to use the word sauve? no... that's too close to a shampoo company. how about sove? rhymes with stove instead of dove. not sure about that either. help me brainstorm. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:41:03 PM #63 | IloveJesus posted... The MCU is formulaic and safe. It's also got a heavier focus on profit than artistic integrity. However, those are hardly criticisms that are exclusive to the MCU. cinephiles use the word 'cinema' differently from normies. good definition of it by steven soderbergh: The simplest way that I can describe it is that a movie is something you see, and cinema is something thats made. It has nothing to do with the captured medium, it doesnt have anything to do with where the screen is, if its in your bedroom, your iPad, it doesnt even really have to be a movie. It could be a commercial, it could be something on YouTube. Cinema is a specificity of vision. Its an approach in which everything matters. Its the polar opposite of generic or arbitrary and the result is as unique as a signature or a fingerprint. It isnt made by a committee, and it isnt made by a company, and it isnt made by the audience. It means that if this filmmaker didnt do it, it either wouldnt exist at all, or it wouldnt exist in anything like this form. by this definition, the mcu is not cinema. nor is most of hollywood's output these days. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:30:04 PM #61 | Smashingpmkns posted... Literally any time he's speaking with MBJ. Or Danai as well. Coogler uses a ton of over the shoulder shots in his films, probably more so than any MCU director, and there are a ton in BP. Even the action scenes are very Coogler. The scene in the club is 100% Coogler lol no idea who danai is. can't remember these character's names as they aren't actually characters and are just plot devices. sorry. the conversational/expository scenes are all badly thought out in black panther. too much cutting, nothing interesting as far as blocking goes, etc. not to mention the hideous cgi in the background of every shot. and if coogler had enough control over the movie, he would have found a way to make it more visually compelling instead of having arduous exposition dumps in the lab or throne room. by club scene i assume you mean the long take that calls attention to itself. terrible. i bet you think lubezki is a great cinematographer too! maybe ryan coogler is just a bad director tho. havent seen friutvale or creed so can't say for certain. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:14:48 PM #57 | Smashingpmkns posted... Zithers posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Zithers posted... have no idea what you are referring to. don't they talk plenty in that movie? was it a minnelli-esque oner? a masterfully staged conversational scene like something from kurosawa? do you have any links to scenes from coogler's other movies where it's clearly a major part of his craft? --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:09:29 PM #55 | RchHomieQuanChi posted... Zithers posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Imagine not being able to tell the difference between director styles and considering yourself a movie buff lol where is the creative freedom in black panther? when is coogler allowed to flex his stylistic muscles? any scene(s) you can point towards? --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:08:57 PM #54 | OctilIery posted... Zithers posted.... i mean, a great example is brad bird, who was given immense freedom to mess around with ghost protocol, his first live-action movie. and it has some of the most mind blowing action scenes of all-time. uhhhh no he had a lot of experience doing it in animation. ghost protocol was his first time, you know, having to go to a location with cameras and actual human actors and having to figure all that out. in fact, they even let him conceive the final scene. they told him it had to take place in a car garage and that was the only stipulation. he choreographed everything himself. tom cruise letting directors have more creative freedom than kevin feige lol. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 1:48:09 PM #47 | Smashingpmkns posted... Zithers posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Zithers posted... when do you see coogler's signature style in black panther? --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 1:44:58 PM #46 | can't figure out the html for this newer quoting system sorry OctilIery posted... Zithers posted...Anonymously directed, hideous green screen environs, quips, too much editing, etc. 1. pretty objective if you watch the trailer - includes everything i mentioned 2. i mean, movies are art, i guess, but they're inching closer to just being marketing events. furthermore, they are certainly not cinema as us cinephiles define it. 3. no, that's what the mcu movies look like. again, pretty objective. maybe watch something made before the year you were born. or something in b&w, maybe even with subtitles. might learn a thing or two about good filmmaking. 4. her quote was They also told me, Dont worry about the action scenes, we will take care of that." sure doesn't sound like they were asking for her input! also i'm pretty sure most directors do take care of action scenes. by most directors i mean good directors who are given creative freedom, not ones who are micro-managed by bob iger and kevin feige. i mean, a great example is brad bird, who was given immense freedom to mess around with ghost protocol, his first live-action movie. and it has some of the most mind blowing action scenes of all-time. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:21:17 AM #37 | Smashingpmkns posted... Zithers posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Imagine not being able to tell the difference between director styles and considering yourself a movie buff lol on a script level, sure. on a formal level they are both incompetent. ugly, action scenes hacked to death, lots of coverage in dialogue scenes, etc. like every other marvel movie. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:12:02 AM #35 | Smashingpmkns posted... Imagine not being able to tell the difference between director styles and considering yourself a movie buff lol but the mcu directors aren't allowed to exercise any creative freedom??? they have to conform to kevin feige's house style. like, i watched black panther and it was exactly like the pre-2014 mcu movies and reminded me why i gave up on this stuff. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 2:01:58 AM #33 | not something i really noticed. great choreography tho. also has some good sound design. fwiw you can notice when she pins him that she also has a shiner and bloody mouth. but i'm not generally a stickler about 'realism' in movies... --- |
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| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 1:03:16 AM #29 | dave_is_slick posted... Zithers posted...Delirious_Beard posted...Zithers posted...said she was informed she didn't have to direct the action scenes because the stunt unit would just do it themselves LOL where was i elitist? was it when i said that a movie starring mma fighter gina carano as a badass special agent who gets into fist fights with dudes was awesome? seriously. what is elitist about wanting to be able to understand what is going on and wishing superhero movies would lean more into being fantastical? that sounds like a totally reasonable thing a normal person would want. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 12:58:37 AM #25 | Delirious_Beard posted... Zithers posted...said she was informed she didn't have to direct the action scenes because the stunt unit would just do it themselves LOL its weird to me that superhero movies don't buy into being superhero movies. instead they are overly serious, have gray/blue tinged color palettes (or sometimes the infamous blue/orange), instead of using exotic locales and superpowers they are having a realistic shootout on a highway, lots of shaky cam to try to induce versimilitude, etc. also notice how they cut every time someone gets hit. totally removes the weight of the fight. something like haywire has much better hand to hand combat. lots of long takes shot from a distance so you can see and feel the physicality of the actors as they beat the fuck out of each other. hell yeah that owns. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 12:45:38 AM #23 | Delirious_Beard posted... the only marvel movie you can really feel the style of the director is iron man 3 and shane black, but most viewers hated that movie because of course they did will admit to laughing a couple times during guardians. it was unspeakably ugly though and the ending was cringe-inducing. probably the best mcu movie of the 10 or 11 i've seen. iron man 3 is the last mcu movie i saw in a theater and i also strongly disliked it. oh well. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 12:31:58 AM #19 | Delirious_Beard posted... i really don't know how people are upset about martin's opinion when marvel literally took away creative control from edgar wright on ant-man because his vision didn't fit their generic MCU formula edgar wright is literally one of the best directors working today. then adam mckay (who is not that bad, liked the big short at least) passed on the project as well. think someone else did too before peyton reed finally took it on. ava duvernay passed on black panther due to lack of creative control. lucrecia martel passed on captain marvel or black widow, can't remember which, for the same reason. said she was informed she didn't have to direct the action scenes because the stunt unit would just do it themselves LOL. "but the directors are allowed to have freedom!!!" imagine actually think this holy shit. also fired patty jenkins off thor 2 to let alan taylor, the mastermind behind terminator: genisys, make it. hmmm. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 12:18:47 AM #15 | 008Zulu posted... So? Scorsese seems to be under the impression that every single movie has to be a thought provoking, artistic interpretation of the human mind/form. Or whatever his movies aim to be about. this may come as a surprise to you but genre movies can have artistic merit. scorsese is a big fan of musicals, westerns, gangster pictures (obviously), so not really sure why people act like he wants "high art" all the time when they see these comments. good writing, directing, editing, cinematography, etc is abundant in thousands of movies over the past hundred years and the mcu has somehow missed the mark despite having virtually unlimited resources. not a lot to ask for imo. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 12:16:12 AM #12 | DrizztLink posted... So you're talking out of your ass. considering i've seen half of the mcu, i'm not so sure i am! don't think i really need to spend another 25+ hours watching this crap to determine whether or not it's good considering how uncinematic they are. --- |
| Topic | Last week: Martin Scorsese compares Disney superhero movies to theme parks |
| Zithers 10/12/19 12:09:20 AM #8 | DrizztLink posted... Zithers posted...Dampproof posted...Zithers posted...It looks just like the MCU movies. Anonymously directed didn't see since i gave up on the mcu after 2014 i think. whenever winter soldier and gotg were released is when i had to tap out. glad to see there is approximately one movie out of.... 23? to have a distinct style though! --- |
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