Lurker > Dark_Spiret

bulked up on vitamins and a few other minor things. already had a ton of everything else.

im scared for my grandparents and my mother. they all have health problems let alone are in their 80's and 50's. me personally im fine. been prepping for years and im in fairly good shape.

the left side would just want to split up again in another 150 years considering how much infighting there is.

been a prepper since 2012. i already have most of the shit id need. I did start getting more vitamins though.

regardless im more worried about people going nuts and buying everything up or trying to harm others over bullshit than i am the virus.

i dont panick buy. i bought all this shit months/years ago. currently at 120 rolls. muahaha.

personally im a fan of 45's for home defense. glock 21 if you just want something that will do the job. 1911 if you want some style (dont forget about the 10rnd mags). if youre set on a revolver then a Smith and Wesson 686 plus is a good all around one. if you want something a little cheaper then Taurus makes OK stuff like their m66's, but i wouldnt put thousands and thousands of rounds through them (minus their pt92's which are legit very good).

if price is a serious issue look to police trade ins. as mentioned many agencies are trading in their .40's so you can find glock 22's and 27's for reasonable prices, maybe even sig 229's. also dont underestimate the used surplus market. a lot of stuff like makarovs, cz 82's and tokerovs tend to be older, but they have a long reputation, they work and you can get them for $200-250.

also dont forget about turkish guns. they tend to have $500+ quality in $300-400 packages.

with something as contagious as this its highly likely you are going to catch it anyway unless you live off grid and dont have a lot of interactions with people. hopefully before that point comes they will have a vaccine to help with it. with that id stock up on supplys that will help boost your immune system and fight the virus. multivitamins like C, B6, E ect. and try to stay active and as healthy as you can.

as far as stuff to stock up on to help delay that outcome- soap, hand sanitizer (alcohol, NOT the gel), face masks (n95, n100, you can go full respirator if you have the money, but dont forget a good supply air filters), plastic gloves and feet covers, bleach, disinfectant wipes and in general most other stuff youd get for sanitation.

however with something as large as this id also recommend stock piling general supplys in prep for potential panic buying especially with the stock market going crazy. stuff that you can survive on if you couldnt make it to the store or even get out of your home for that time (like getting locked in against your will) or if the stores sell out. lots of water, good amount of food (canned and freeze dried and in general stuff that will typically last a few years just siting around). dont get stuff thats going to spoil in a week. general hygiene stuff like toilet paper(!), paper towels, tooth paste, first aid supplys along with all the sanitation stuff mentioned above. basically anything you feel you need to use in your daily life id stock pile it hard now while you can.

if you have the money look into setting up a bug out bag. make sure you have a way to charge your cell phone and other electronics if the power goes out (solar chargers) and make sure if you drive that your tank is topped off as much as you can (even setting aside some gas just in case. gas will last 6-12months, remember to change it out).

it creates a certain type of sadness when that happens.

while i can be considered a prepper and have a lot of supplys if something does happen im not to worried about it in general.

something you have to consider is that its basically the flu on steroids which one of the major reasons its able to kill and spread like it is is because of the actual living conditions in china which are piss poor in a lot of areas with many not practicing safe hygiene and their governments just not giving a shit about many of them in general. this isnt really the case in a first world country, especially now that we know that the virus is a thing and are on high alert. a poor homeless person in san fran who might be showing signs would get a hell of a lot better care than one in china fallowing this ordeal.

hot

yes.

ban all the things.

yes and a hell of a lot of other drugs too.

deus ex invisible war. doesnt help that the first one is my favorite game.

given the darker subject matter im getting heavy rape vibes.

emblem boy posted...

It's just weird, and in terms of image, and seems like it harms the gun rights view.

Kinda makes it clear that it's more than just about gun rights

depend on how you actually view it. being able to form a militia is part of the 2nd. if you were to be in one chances are high youll look very similar to how those guys dress. lots of camo. lots of plate carriers, lots of glasses, hats and masks and lots of ammo pouches and guns.

while i dont agree how they went about it, lets be real here, they would have been labeled white racist terrorist anyway just by having any type of gun (or even not) and attending a gun rally. same thing happened in virginia. those who were on the inside of the fence unarmed in 99% plain cloths were still called right wing racist extremists and those who were on the outside who happen to have a firearm (even a mosin nagant or m1 garand or a 1897 shotgun) were still called terrorists using intimidation and fear.

Tmaster148 posted...

That's a lot of words to say there's a gun problem, but you want to underplay it.

when a problem can be solved through other means not related to what you think the problem is then yes that problem wasnt the real one.

not to the degree some would make you think. the US has a gun ownership rate of 120:1. US citizens have half of the entire worlds firearms. there is an estimated 400-500million in circulation in the US across 100+ million citizens. Just by shear volume it stands pretty high that guns are going to be used for some nefarious shit over anything else compared to other countries. however if guns were the primary factor then the US just by that shear volume would be an apocalyptic wasteland right now which its not. breaking down the actual numbers ~99.9% of total firearms in civilian hands dont harm anyone (including used in potential suicides).

if you also analyze the numbers you see that suicides account for 2/3rds of gun deaths which are a very difficult thing to account the method for especially when the 2 other methods that take up around 45% of total suicides also carry a high success rate when tried. factor in the 40% rate of someone who doesnt get help the first time (assuming they lived) tend to also try again and be successful. there is also no guarantee that someone wont switch over to another method. canada some years back tried to do studies on this when they tried their long gun registry and they found any effects to curve suicides be extremely negligible when most turned to hanging and poisons as an alternate method instead.

also something to consider is the level of homicide break downs. almost all of them are gang related (something like 75% according to fbi statistics) which involves gang bangers killing each other (although unfortunately some innocents do wined up in the cross fire) with another 10% being "justified" police shootings and another 5% being "justified" defensive gun uses. another ~5% is negligent deaths (kids finding their daddys hi-point). the rest is what youd consider to be traditional murders like mass shootings and domestic incidents which is what most people tend to think of when they think of a gun problem of which those actually take up a very small percentage.

most of the actual gun deaths can be solved through a large amount of other methods not directly targeting guns just because a lot of them stem through societal problems which are things that should be addressed anyway.

now that all said, do i think there is some level of warship or instant entitlement that allows people to be negligent with them? yes. a lot of people treat them as toys to be left around and dont fully understand what they have in their hands. this however instead of throwing regulations after regulations at the problem, can instead be taught. the problem here is that guns are now being heavily stigmatized to the point that a lot of people (on the left specifically) dont want them around pretty much anywhere. this can lead to more and more people being ignorant and negligent with them and in the case of kids leads to certain forbiden fruit type fascinations where accidents happen. in a country with more guns than poeple you CAN NOT treat the problem like that, its only going to lead to bad things. by and large you didnt have this type of problem 60+ years ago despite gun laws being even looser just because they wernt treated as toys and everyone had them and learned about them (including in school). IMO we need to bring back safety classes in schools, free gun range safety courses for new gun owners and increase add campaigns encouraging gun safety. combine that with a lot of the other societal issues that could be solved and youd probably eliminate 90% of total firearm deaths over the next decade without even touching anyones constitutional rights.

higher contagion rate and incubation period allows it to be spread faster and easier without people knowing. the virus itself is not incredibly deadly, but just because its so contagious means it can spread to more people which increases the likelihood of deaths.

debit for normal stuff
check for larger stuff
cash for when i dont want to leave a paper trail

Obviously not, officer.

~2.70

just rent is about 8%. i live in a shitty trailer though while saving up for something nice.

outside of a few lines of dialog and a couple story beats relating tot he first game, it stands on its own just fine.

and yes its a great game.

wolfy42 posted...

Maybe that is just WA though.

Most of the country isn't that "strict", mostly just the liberal coastal city states. Tho you can't buy a handgun at Walmart anywhere and what Guns you can buy(now relegated to hunting style rifles and shotguns only) still require a background check.

id rather throw my money in a fire.

he got her on the ground once without hitting her and she still kept coming. he got her on the bench without hitting her and she still kept coming. he backed off without hitting her and yet she still persisted. how much karma do you want to lose?

i dont know about kicking a downed individual, but based on what weve seen to that point it stands pretty strong that she would have gotten back up and continued hitting him. he made the choice to make sure she didnt get back up.

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

But if ya get one dont spend a ton and get in practice. Ya dont want your first use being a panic.

theres a few lines of thought on this. one is that you shouldnt put a price on your life or your familys life so dont concern your self too much with how much money you spend. get something that you know wil work which usually means something more quality which means a higher price tag. the other thought is that this is most likely going to be a gun (unless youre really into firearms) thats going to lay around doing nothing but collect dust and if you do need to use it it will be confiscated in the mean time until things get worked out which can also mean possible damages to it or it getting "lost" on its way back to you. basically if you intend it to be a defensive weapon expect it to be disposable to some degree.

up to the individual to make that choice, but i will say that cheap doesnt mean crap. you can get a lot of good quality police trade in's in the $300 range with minimal use as well as nice surplus guns in the $200 areas that have decades old proven track records (guy i know has carried a makorov for over a decade and still swears by it).

was going to go into a bunch of more detailed crap, but im too lazy and its not rocket science. so--
stay away from rifle calibers. theyll blow your ear drums out (556) and might hit little timmy 10 houses down (308).

shotguns-
cheap ass=maverick 88
ol faithfuls=mossberg 500/remington 870
need a tank?=590a1
got money?=beretta 1301 or fn slp
really got money?=benelli m4
got some class?=winchester 1897

skys the limit on handguns. go to the range and pick what feels best. notable brands=CZ, FN, Glock, H&K, Sig, Colt, Beretta, Ruger. hard to go wrong with anything by those makers. If youre a real cheap ass Taurus tends to have alright stuff, tho i wouldnt put thousands of rounds through them. also dont underestimate turkish guns, they tend to be higher quality than youd expect for their price.

in general its hard to go wrong with a glock 19. revolvers also make nice set it and forget it weapons tho obviously capacity will be a factor. if you want to go that route then a taurus tends to be solid like an m66. if its something you actually want to shoot regularly then bump it up to a ruger or smith and wesson.

lastly maybe be cautious in how you customize your guns and how they look. some states who arnt as gun friendly may try to pin something on you because your weapon looks scary or you carry some crazy unique type of ammo. if thats the case maybe dont try and get fancy, maybe even fudd it up a little.

as it should.

id like more...neutral sources to confirm this, but i wouldnt be surprised. there a lot of questionable stuff around this that you could make a case that Iran did it.

its one of those gams where you can throw a lot of shade at, but if it hooks you it REALLY hooks you. i easily have over 250hours in it.

Pepys Monster posted...

Japan had a shooting recently, and they're a very small country with the strictest gun laws in the world. Gun laws don't work.

"funny" enough it was a full auto assault rifle too.

they have other issues (some theyve redefined to make it seem better than it actually is) and they have other pros that aids in people not wanting to commit violence.
Umbreon posted...

But when it comes to guns these same Americans are like "We're totally powerless to stop this".

how far down the totalitarian rabbit hole do you want to go? in order to "fix" it means violating a lot of rights and putting bans on tons of materials and items. and even then based on our overall violent culture it might not do anything to begin with unless you also tackle the things turn poeple to wanting to commit crimes and violence. it might actually make things worse.

better than 2.