Lurker > HanOfTheNekos

DoomTheGyarados posted...

No lea had to target me before day was over

Oh.

Obellisk posted...

Wait you cN see if they are visited by scum OR if they visit scum?

Thats weird.

Does it specify the difference?

No. If either or, they return Dirty. If neither happens, they return Clean.

I guess the question is if Lea invites people and they get invited at the top of night phase, does that count as a visit happening during night, day, or not counting as a visit.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Sorry, been at rehearsal.

I'm Jeffrey Epstein, kid pimp. Can target a player at night and learn if they were visited by or visited Scum.

Obv targeted Chris who came up as dirty.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hbthebattle posted...

But that's not what you've been saying all game
For example

Once again, you're literally intentionally misinterpreting what I said to paint it as something different.

htaeD posted...

also I find it odd again that Han has no idea how much Scare affected reds death

I was focused on the people whose votes weren't on Hb but were around at end of day. I ignored the votes on Red.

Hbthebattle posted...

But you've been "sure" Lea is scum before that was revealed

Is this your first game playing with me?

Lea looked worst aside from Chris. Of course I'm going to fucking put pressure on her. The claim all but confirmed it for me.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Oh wait Scare said that? lol

Does Scare play that loosely in regards to power roles?

Anyway, in truth, both are equally responsible. But once again, you're intentionally misrepresenting what I said to fit your agenda.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Why are you so afraid of the other 47 hours and 55 minutes?

I'm not.

Why are you acting like Chris alone is responsible for the Red lynch instead of the people pushing the Red lynch or the people who were actually on the red lynch?

I'm not.

You don't talk about MZero or Scare despite them being more responsible than Lea or Chris, not to mention the literal quadvoter.

I've specifically spoken about MI. Were MZero or Scare around end of day? I've been focused on the people who could have saved Red by voting you, but didn't. And then the whole Chris/Lea/Puns thing came out and I've been sure Lea is Scum since.

I mean, it's theoretically possible that IGCD is Scum here and not you, but you're wayyyyyyyyy more likely.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Leanansidhe posted...

Is that really the the quip you wanna make when you've been calling people 100% town and scum all game?

I always do that! And to be fair, it's 105% Town, not 100% Town.

Hbthebattle posted...

Hm maybe the person whose been trying to push a lynch based on the last 5 minutes of the day is scum

Why are you so afraid to have the end of day analyzed, hmm?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Lea, only a Sith speaks in absolutes.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Lynching scum is always my top priority. Also I had lea and puns ready to make me look like a day vig today for fun but I decided to be transparent instead. Good luck trying to spin that one.

Why would I try to spin that? I really don't think you're Scum.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Obellisk posted...

Han I'm concerned with because normally he'd be down my throat

One of these days you're going to realize that I'm not suspicious of you every game. Hell, I think the last time I was, you said I always went after you and there were like, three games before that one where I didn't?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

It just seems odd to let the guy who you were pretty sure was Town and also claimed Cop die as opposed to a guy whose day 1 contributions were ignoring that pressure voting is a thing and making things up. At the very least, forcing a tiebreaker situation lets you draw more reads from other people in how they handle it, especially with a claimed Cop in that pool.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

You really have to stretch for me to look bad from how I handled red. But it seems like we want to stretch so hey what can I do

You let the claimed Cop whom you had stated was Town all day die. No matter how you swing it, that looks bad.

Regardless, I think you're most likely Town. But 'not knowing why people suspect you' isn't really sensible?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I will admit I dont even know why so many people suspect me. I literally have been super straight forward!

I mean, you do look the absolute worst from yesterday's lynch.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Okay, so a Scum (unblockable, except theoretically by unlikely Mayor?) kill that has to recruit two Town to agree with it, but still can go off if those two Town die.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Chris really ought to do a better job reading the end of last day and my actions this day, tbh

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Leanansidhe posted...

Han, the Ghost Council is currently looking at you on the crimes of illegal levels of confidence in your reads. Will you claim, or will you disappear?

##unvote

##vote: Scare

I'm not doing shit until Puns asks. And I imagine that after getting a night's rest, Chris will realize how off-kilter his last post on me was.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hbthebattle posted...

Theres more to yesterday than the last 5 minutes

Yeah, it's weird that Chris is ignoring that.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Note, he claims to prefer Blade but is voting HB.

Well, unlike some people, I didn't want to the claimed Cop to die :P

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I'm not saying it has to be two Town, but they said Lea has to be the one to bring the target to vote. So yes.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I believe Chris was stressed out, less than I believe that Lea posted four times without seeing votals.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I actually think Chris is likely Town though.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

TotallyNotMI posted... Why would scum try to kill town HB over claimed cop? With 4 minutes left after the claim it isn't hard to go 'oops' - as evident by how many have today?

I'm not saying they would. I'm saying that people didn't, which is Scummy.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

TotallyNotMI posted...

I kind of feel like HB would be a bad move?

He was in the lead with no movement until I quad voted. It didn't feel like a scum lunch the way it sat there imo

There was time for something. The something was just you.

Doesn't stop people from choosing to vote others instead of him to save claimed Cop.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Blade is another good push but honestly we're probably going to end today by lynching Hb.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hbthebattle posted...

Again, you can try to distance yourself from the Red lynch all you want, but nobody is fooled.

You're really not good at this.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

If Scum has a quad voter, I don't think it shows itself like that.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hbthebattle posted...

Han's the one who's been exaggeratedly angry

I'm actually surprised I'm not more angry. Really, you should be dead at this point and Cop is dead instead of you. Pretty aggravating tbh

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

turbopuns3 posted...

Does anyone think it's a bad idea to bonus lynch han

I don't know, there are good arguments. Such as me not putting together an argument using everything that's happened days 1-3 on Blade. Or thinking that IGCD is Town. But that one's not as good as my lack of using Day 3 events to put together an attack on someone Day 1.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Obellisk posted...

No one's ever tried to be my fake Mason. :(

That's because I always have to think you're Scum, instead!

benjamin3740 posted...

Han do you still feel IGCD is 100% town?

105% from how he's acted today. Surly, anti-Town, angry aggressive IGCD is his Town MO to a T. Only thing holding me back from saying 110% is that his position at end of day 1 is close to being as bad as Hb's.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Basically for anything about red to be problematic someone not red but with votes has to be scum. Which atm leaves hb and igcd. so voting anyone for not helping red is just derivative!

It's new information. Better to pressure and push to find out who actually tried to have Red killed than to spend the day on the info we had at the time of Red's flip.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik, try reading all the posts that have happened since.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Oh I'm sorry I didnt realize han was me and knows me alignment.

shh don't tell them we're the same person, they'll ban us for using two different accounts to play the game

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hbthebattle posted...

So you planned to ask Han how he was so sure killing you was Anti-Town, right? Shouldnt this be self-evident? Why would a town player not think their death was anti-town?

oh my god will you just afk already instead of filling up topics with useless posts

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

IfGodCouldDie posted...

If you guys don't do it I'm just going to afk.

please don't

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

No no no. It's stupid. Killing off IGCD in the middle of the day with no flip is a terrible anti-Town move.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Yeah but he died asap

well that sucks

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

If I had my way igcd would already be dead

You confirm the flip won't happen until night hits?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

also I see where Blade is coming from but I can totally see all three doing this as scum.
Its not likely mind you, but this setup does not damn the remaining two if one of them flips scum.
And avoiding scrutiny is easier for them. Especially with the cop gone

They're not all three Scum. Probably just Lea.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Obellisk posted...

Getting them to play along and not make it look like you are clearly full of shit.

Pay attention Han, this is simple math.

How is that a risk? It's literally a meme to have people fake-claim Masons. All it takes is two people deciding to run along with somebody pulling something like this out of their ass, and if they're proven to be a liar, people will just let it go because it's a wacky play.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


This is just more good arguments for you being Scum, tbh

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Obellisk posted...

You are doubling up on people playing along. There is a greater risk is what I'm saying.

risk of what?

turbopuns3 posted...

How are they counter? I don't know either of their alignments

I suppose that's fair.

I still don't think Chris is Scum here. Lea almost certainly is, though.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I got ninja'd.

Anyway, this is an interesting way to balance Scum extra kill.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Obellisk posted...

Assuming we are to believe this. Mind you, faking a masonry is one thing, faking three is way too big of a gamble.

How is faking a three-way Masonry any different from faking a two-way? You just say "hey, I recruited these guys into a mason chat" and then they both go along with it.

turbopuns3 posted...

I want to point out that I wasn't bragging about my past escapades. I was actually just complaining that because of that event nobody ever wants to believe me about even the most mundane things

Anyway yeah I was recruited into a chat by lea, and chris is there also

So why do your existing posts on the day seem counter to this informatino?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

gonna wait on puns to confirm this tbh

Still seems fake.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I mean I have two other people lol

idk based on what puns has said so far it seems like you're lying

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Correct. A lynch

Can you be more specific? It's important to know if you're telling the truth about this or lying.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I'm not following. Are you implying you three have a night kill that you can decide on and use together?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

oh I didn't read that lol

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hbthebattle posted...

where no one knew what the hell was going on.

this might actually be the dumbest thing you've said all game. And you've said some doozies!

DoomTheGyarados posted...

The non reaction by han and igcd of a major role reveal is interesting.

how is you claiming vanilla major?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

MI voted 4 times.

So? And reading your analysis, you're still ignoring that Red was perfectly savable.

With ALL of the people who were around to do it, SOMEBODY has to be Scum. Unless you think 7 people decided that claimed Cop should be lynched just cuz. In fact, the lack of movement is probably evidence in favor, and not against like you're making it out to be. Moment somebody ties it up, any of the people in wait who didn't pop onto Hb could throw their vote onto Red.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

You guys are asking the wrong questions. You are focusing on a minute period of time where we can't even be sure all of the scum were heavily active instead of going based off the day broadly. It's ok luckily I woke up on the right side of the bed today so I will delve into this.

Hardly. Plenty of time, along with plenty of people who made the choice. Almost assuredly a chosen lynch by Scum. Fuck, Hb doesn't even have to be Scum for that, though he probably is.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

turbopuns3 posted...

Never heard anything other than "tags"

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I'm not? But I wasn't on him at end of day and wouldn't have been on him at end of day. And if IGCD was at 5 and you were at 4, I might've even switched to IGCD, who I believe is Town, because a maybe Cop Red would've been worth more.

Like, I don't know what you're trying to do this game Hb. You consistently ignore completely obvious things. It's unsettling because... you're the guy from Avatar who asks "can your science explain why it rains?"

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic