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AsucaHayashi posted...

because a small number of games before a single entry became a large number of games after said single entry.

given that small number is larger than your games that came after it. Can't wait for you to pretend you didn't say this.

That's also not an explanation of how you can "lead" to things that were already there. The word you're looking for is "catching up". With overwatch Blizzard caught up to valve with TF2, which valve already abandoned for the more active lootbox simulator of CSGO(which came out years before OW and also had lootboxes).
AsucaHayashi posted...

yes, after their shares took a nosedive from the BF2 debacle. still the same single company.

ubisoft, activision, and microsoft are a single company?

AsucaHayashi posted...

you mean long after loot boxes became big?

yes, that's been my point the entire time. Valve brought Lootboxes with TF2. EA went, "great idea", added it to Fifa. And the rest is history that leads up to BFII.

Your point is lootboxes were "small" then now "tons" despite 2/3 of your examples that "followed" overwatch having dropped them by now.

AsucaHayashi posted...

and yet there are still tons of games with lootboxes in them.

so now a few games is tons? but you just said all the games before overwatch with lootboxes is "small" but now it's "tons"? can't even finish your post without contradicting yourself.

that's 0/9 and now you aren't even waiting between post to contradict yourself. You sure try really hard to avoid admitting your beloved pc mustard race savoir valve is the greediest developer outside of mobile

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Freddie_Mercury posted...

I don't even have a reddit account

So even easier for you, don't go to reddit.


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AsucaHayashi posted...

quote me where i said that the games that had lootboxes after OW were the first entries in said franchises.

AsucaHayashi posted...

led to an onslaught of games from several different companies across several different genres and franchises both paid and f2p.

so how it "leading" if they were already there?

AsucaHayashi posted...

phased out from what? one single game from one single game company in 2017?

ea has kept lootboxes out of their games beyond fifa and madden since. Ubisoft pulled them from their games. Microsoft pulled them from forza and gears. Eagerly await your post where you said it was just one game. Of course, no change from Valve, who continues to sell fan mods in loot boxes.

BFII is the straw that broke the golden gooses back.

so we're up to 0/8. Please keep swinging and missing because you can't support what you say and it makes you super angry to admit that valve is the greediest company in gaming outside of mobile.

AsucaHayashi posted...

so any political topic that were resolved faster than covid-19 legislation at a time when the world wasn't in lockdown is now considered more important than covid-19?

given things don't actually operate at that pace, you might pick up on the point. But, well, that requires you to think. And contrary to what you think, lodging your head up your ass to go BUT BLIZZARD, is not in fact thinking.

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Freddie_Mercury posted...

its on the front page

your front page is only subreddits you subscribe to. don't want to see joe rogan's subreddit? don't subscribe to it.

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AsucaHayashi posted...

you not understanding the context of my initial post is not my problem.

you not being able to explain it without contradicting yourself is yours.

AsucaHayashi posted...

already provided a list. you blatantly ignoring it isn't my problem.

your list of games that wasn't the first entry of lootboxes in those games? yes you blatantly

ignoring it is your problem.
AsucaHayashi posted...

already provided a list that supports the claim where it's adopted by several big name companies, games and franchises.

your list of games that wasn't the first entry of lootboxes in those games? yes you blatantly

ignoring it is your problem.

and that's still nothing on how they went from "big" to phased out in about a year.

so that's an 0/7. Going to try again?
AsucaHayashi posted...

also, imagine comparing fucking covid-19 legislation to lootbox legislation of a few companies xd.

you're stance literally requires on you saying lootbox legislation is more important than covid to get the legislation done faster then we can figure out what to due with 11% unemployment.

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AzurexNightmare posted...

Imagine memorizing the name of a random stranger online.

imagine not reading the username of op and making this shit post.

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for quite some time, it comes with hulu basic for me as well so it's a great value for me. i paid for pandora for a few years before spotify. I wouldn't be surprised if i've been with spotify for a decade but no idea how to check my account. I was for sure using it when i was in Utah so that should be at least 7 or 8 years.

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yup that's how the word few works. But hey look that's 6 times now you can't answer a direct question.

Still waiting on you to define "big" in a way that doesn't contradict yourself.
still waiting on an explanation of how overwatch brought it to all these games and genres that already had them
still waiting on an explanation of how you come from "big" in may 2016 (apparently it was an instant success and immediately adopted by everyone, damn publishers have some quick turn around time!) to being abandoned, patched out, and phased out of future game plans by november 2017. Also only between this time it got big enough for legislation to rapidly react to the problem of lootboxes. I mean, we're what 5 months into a quarantine with unemployment benefits about to cut off and politicans can't act on that. But lootboxes. Bam, they were on that shit in MONTHS after overwatch took it from ??? to "big".

you can support what you say right? or do you just want to keep avoiding backing up what you say because it hurts you feelings to admit that Valve is the greediest developer outside of mobile.

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AsucaHayashi posted...

but it was a huge deal and it was adopted by the entire industry.

not until much later after new policies. Apart of which was the success of shivering isles. It took quite some time until cosmetic DLC came back.

Also sure is strange how you ignored the other90% of the post because you can't admit you're talking out of your ass. Can't explain what "big" means that doesn't contradict everything else you've said. Can't support how overwatch was the game that sparked it into all these other franchises and genres...that already had them. And can't explain how within a few months of OW we have BFII putting a hard brake on the practice. Except of course for beloved Valve who continues to sell community mods in a loot box because they are the greediest developers outside of mobile.

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horse armor wasn't popular or accepted. that's the point of the topic.

TF2 made lootboxes popular and accepted. So publishers started trying to use it.

Then you went, NO MY BELOVED VALVE ISN'T RESPONSIBLE IT'S ALL BLIZZARD FAULT WITH OVERWATCH.

also that's 3 times you've dodged

how did they go from "big" to outsed from the indusrty in under a year according to your time.

how did OW "make them big" and "bring them to all these franchises" when those franchises had lootboxes before. Quote the 4 paragraphs int he wiki article above the one you did. You know where it talks about how Call of duty had lootboxes in 2014.

so add to your list of things you can't answer, what specifically does "overwatch made it big" mean. Since it doesn't mean popular. It doesn't mean accepted. It can't mean unaccepted, since that was BFII. It can't mean first. It can't mean what publishers pointed to say we should add these, since they already did that before overwatch. So what do you want to move the goal post to what your failed point you can't support because you've been talking out of your ass because you don't want to admit that valve are the greediest developers outside of mobile.

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AsucaHayashi posted...

didn't become big until blizzard hit it off with OW

AsucaHayashi posted...

s when my example literally led to an onslaught of games from several different companies across several different genres and franchises both paid and f2p.

AsucaHayashi posted...

didn't become big and therefore normalized until after OW which released in may 2016

still waiting on a reply to since you want to move the goal post to pretending you haven't been saying it's been popularized by overwatch in 2016, then the gaming industry immediately within months copied it into every game, then immediately a few months later backed off, and addressed how ow wasn't even blizzard first dive into lootboxes.


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hey look tc went out of his way to find something to be offended by he can easily just not subscribe to and never see.

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please explain how it was popular and unaccepted.

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melbourne

TOPIC LIST

but why did you bury the best part?

Only adding to the stupidity of the whole scenario, Patton confirmed that when officers attended the residence, 16 people at the party had attempted to hide.

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so you think they weren't accepted and popularized? That's your new goal post?

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i played 5 and new dawn recently. They were fun and I appreciated they weren't these 200 hour slogs. It was a nicce crisp 15-20 hours. Though, I liked Just Cause more than Far Cry.

Far cry 3 is currently $3 on PS4, i'll probably pick it up and give it a run through.

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in my 30's now, yes
in my early 20's, probably depends on how young you look. but 14 year olds tend to look more childish.

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AsucaHayashi posted...

OW adds lootboxes which are then picked up by the entire fucking industry

the entire industry that already had them, literally including blizzard 2 years earlier with HotS and however much before that with hearthstone? yeah that happened because valve brought them out of obscure asian mmo's and gave publishers the go ahead that this was profitable and gamers would tolerate it. Up until the point you think they were accepted then a few months later rejected.

SevenTenths posted...

think, then post.

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AsucaHayashi posted...

imagine hinging your entire argument on two companies with two games when my example literally led to an onslaught of games from several different companies across several different genres and franchises both paid and f2p.

like you hinged your entire argument on one game of over watch? think, then post.

Now try again or just stop posting since we know it causes you physical pain to admit when you're wrong.

Lunar_Savage posted...

I believe the issue at the time was that it was priced at $2.50 but the problem was that Micro$oft and the other companies at the time only sold a rock bottom of $5 worth in their digital currency. So at the end of the day, you were paying $5 no matter what. Tack that on top of the other shit the horse armor caused and you have a shit storm that I remember thoroughly.

and it would be $5 for like 525 point so you'd always have points left over, compelling you to spend more to spend your points.

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literally make vegy mod

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so, 0/4 and you needed to make up a quote. Are you brospehps alt? sorry for feeding a troll. my bad guys.

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again, literally no one who isn't a politician or an executive at corporations supports corporate bailouts.

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WashYourHands posted...

imagine not trusting women bc you got jacked by a prostitute

imagine believing him

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COVxy posted...

I can't state anything because I don't know how you are defining "stands for something". If you do not mean policy, I have no fucking clue what this means.

that's 3 post. You could have said literally anything. But instead, 3 times, you posted "I can't actually say anything Biden stands for because the only thing he's said is he's not trump and that's not really a stance. I don't want to talk about his stance on crime cuz it's kinda bad especially in wake of george floyd. I don't want to talk about his stance on abortion since his voting history is the opposite of what he says. i don't want to talk about his stance on health care, since it's weaker than warren and bernie. I don't want to talk about immigration because his stance there is hey we didn't put them in cages like trump so don't pay attention to anything else like how obama and biden deported more people in their first 2 years than trump did in his first 2 years"

so, 4th times a charm. What does biden stand for? what compelling reason does biden give for a vote beyond, he's not the other guy. There's a lot of people who aren't the other guy. I'll be exercising my right to vote on one of them, and it won't be used on Biden even though he will very likely win.

Lebronwon posted...

People are still saying some of his arguments now. Like this tweet from Andrew Yang a couple days ago.

yang has been saying it for a lot longer. That's what he stood for during the primaries, UBI. The point was if anything was going to happen, it would have happened. It clearly hasn't and won't. Compromise is a dirty word in modern politics. So the two parties can't ever just pass what they agree on. Someone has to "win" by getting some shit rider in that benefits their party and not the people. And every time, no matter if it's the GOP who 'wins' or the DNC who 'wins', it's the people who lose.

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OffTempo posted...

Can someone explain what this PPP loan/scam deal thing is? Out of the loop when it comes to famous people.

the government offered extremely low interest rate loans that would become grants if you used them to pay for payroll. (PPP being payroll protection program). The intent of the loans was to help small business cover employee wage cost during the lockdowns. But because they had such low rates even if you misused them for things not payrol. Everyone and their grandma tried to apply for one (there literally was a post here about a user who rents out his 2nd home through airbnb who applied). Since the fund were limited and the stipulations were weak as fuck, the funds were gobbled up by these people and companies that wanted the low interest rate loan. While the actual small business that are struggling through lockdowns were denied because they couldn't act as quickly or grease the right noses.


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COVxy posted...

Lol. How are you defining "stands for something"?

that's 2 post your incapable of stating anything.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

It's actually comical how many ridiculous excuses you need to pull out of your hat because you can't accept reality.

SevenTenths posted...

you should read an entire post before you start responding. You've yet to make a single post that actually reflects what was written.

COVxy posted...

But this is bullshit. Just because you don't know his policy doesn't mean it doesn't exist. People said the same shit after Hillary won the primary.

The fact that you couldn't actually state what he stands for is all the proof that's needed. And policy isn't the same as standing for something. And policy isn't a great argument for Biden, when he has the track record of voting against his policy (a similar problem Hillary had). Because it creates doubt that your views have actually changed and that you aren't just saying it because you need to say it in order to win.

Also, don't assume people are ignorant, I make an effort to research things before I post about them. I'm plenty familiar with Biden's voting record and his campaign stances.

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EnragedSlith posted...

The Warren supporters that I personally know were extremely pissed that Bernie bros insisted she drop out because it was "understood" that they would support Bernie and she was "stealing" his election. It was a conceited, spoiled, and misogynistic view of the primaries.

there's absolutely no doubt 100% wouldn't put Bernie over Biden in an actual democratic voting system. The lone survey of 300 odd people after she dropped out i think was something like 5 out of 10 had bernie, 3 out of 10 had biden and the other 2 were other. I'm to lazy to google it again it could have been 5-4-1. Which is why i've never claimed what would happen, merely pointed out the fact that Biden didn't have a majority of support and the voting system in place isn't about picking the candidate you agree with most. It's about picking the one you dislike the least. Biden stands for nothing. His campaign is literally nothing. Even trump had his dumb wall. Every other DNC candidate stood for something, and standing for something means people will disagree with you.

the DNC's plan is to put out some stale white bread and hope enough people go fuck that disgusting molded turd sandwhich over there. And it should work. But it should have worked 4 years ago too. Trump's bundling of corona should make it even easier. And i'm not sure if Biden having a penis is helping him compared to hillary. I'd would wager there are more sexist people who wouldn't vote for Hillary based on gender than feminist who would vote for her because she was a woman. But I have no meaningful way to verify that and unlike brospeph I don't use my ass as a source. Running biden against trump is just such a complete and utter disappointment from the DNC. You have an opportunity to run an actual progressive candidate who stands for meaningful progress because trump has done such a shit job and #votebluenomatterwho is kinda the whole no matter who.

Running Biden opens the same risk as Hillary, that polls are going to say Biden is going to win so easily that people don't go out and vote because people really don't want to vote for Biden, they just want to vote against Trump.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

You clearly don't since that happened in mid march, which gives us multiple primaries which were not impacted by COVID and only contested between Biden and Bernie. Remember how that went?

that didn't happen until mid march here's a primary from mid march to prove my point.

so it's not just other people's post you can't finish reading, you don't even do it with your own.
Southernfatman posted...

The people against this who go "but how are we gonna pay for it!?" never say shit about our bloated military budget, corporations abusing loopholes and such to avoid taxes and get benefits, all the various bailouts, etc.

what world do you live in where people are pro corporate bailout? you could have tried to stop at the military budget and you'd almost have a point.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

The part where you said he beats Biden with another persons votes.

so the part that exist in your imagination because
SevenTenths posted...

you should read an entire post before you start responding. You've yet to make a single post that actually reflects what was written.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

What part of the primaries going down to just Bernie and Biden after super tuesday don't you understand?

you mean after bernie stopped campaigning because of covid? yeah i understand that part quite well.

So i'll take that as your ass was your source, thanks for confirming.

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where did i say bernie wins?

SevenTenths posted...

you should read an entire post before you start responding. You've yet to make a single post that actually reflects what was written.

Also still waiting on something to support your claim that most of warren voters would out biden above bernie on a ballot that doesn't rely on the atrocious first past the post voting system.


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they aren't a thing. They're a SCAM created by LIBERAL STARBUCKS to trick us into reading their LIBERAL PROPAGANDA.

Welcome to the #woke life.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Yeah I understand that you think Warren split Bernie's vote

because she factually did.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Most of Warrens supporters went to Biden, not Bernie, after she dropped out.

source required

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Even using your terrible logic, you'd have to include Bloomberg in Biden's totals.

so

SevenTenths posted...

due to a broken first past the post voting system.

SevenTenths posted...

you should read an entire post before you start responding. You've yet to make a single post that actually reflects what was written.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

lol why is he giving Warren's votes to Bernie when most of her supporters went for Biden when she dropped out? Why not include Bloomberg?

A lot of bernie supporters on this board lost their minds during the primaries.

SevenTenths posted...

Obama had Biden's candidates drop out before super tuesday, and Bernie and Warren split enough votes for Biden to win due to a broken first past the post voting system.

Yay democracy!

SevenTenths posted...

you should read an entire post before you start responding. You've yet to make a single post that actually reflects what was written.

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specialkid8 posted...

I still can't figure out why nerds in general and CE specifically are always so butt flustered about microtransactions.

because companies are going to focus on what is most profitable . Which often means releasing new skins. Or say a game like Path of Exile, inventing new currencies to fill your stash to get you to buy stash.

When gamers want the focus to be on providing fun and balanced (if online/competitive) content. They want the gameplay loop and/or story to be what drives profit because that means those need to be higher focuses to the publishers.

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AsucaHayashi posted...

and lootboxes(which is just another offspring of mtx) didn't become big until blizzard hit it off with OW

lol
SevenTenths posted...

it literally was pc and valve and tf2 that normalized loot boxes. They did it before EA added them to fifa. And it was plucked from PC mmo's in asia.

Sorry, this one is all pc mustard race who told EA, yup, gamers will make this profitable, add it in boys.

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EnragedSlith posted...

Posting memes on social media doesn't equate to a political movement. Yay grassroots!

Super Tuesday Results

Alabama
Biden: 286k
Bernie+Warren: 100k

America Samoa
Bernie+Warrent 42
Biden: 31

Arkansas:
Biden: 92.5k
Bernie+Warren: 74k

California
Bernie+Warren: 2.7m
Biden: 1.6m

Colorado
Bernie+Warren: 528k
Biden: 236k

Maine
Bernie+warren: 98k
Biden: 69k

Massachusetts
Bernie+Warren: 680k
Biden: 473k

Minnesota
Bernie+Warren: 336k
Biden: 287k

North Carolina
Biden: 572k
Bernie+Warren: 462k

Oklahoma
Bernie+Warren: 118k
Biden: 117k

Tennessee
Biden: 215k
Bernie+Warren: 182k

Texas
Bernie+Warren 859k;
Biden: 716k

Utah
Bernie+Warren: 115k
Biden: 40k

Vermont
Bernie+Warren: 100k
Biden: 35k

Virginia
Biden 705k
Bernie+Warren: 448k

So even ignoring the american samoas because like 300 people voted and they don't get an electorate vote that's

Biden 4 states and 5.4 mil votes
Bernie+Warren 9 states and 6.9 mil votes

SevenTenths posted...

But yay first past the post voting!

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AsucaHayashi posted...

doesn't really matter where it started(i'm sure i read somewhere that sims had it long before) but where it started gaining serious traction and influencing the rest of the industry and it definitely wasn't on PC.

it literally was pc and valve and tf2 that normalized loot boxes. They did it before EA added them to fifa. And it was plucked from PC mmo's in asia.

Sorry, this one is all pc mustard race who told EA, yup, gamers will make this profitable, add it in boys.

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From 1968 to 2004, Virginia voted for the Republican Party candidate. Then, in the 2008 and 2012 elections, the state voted for the Democratic Party. The same trend continued in the 2016presidential elections.

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Because outside of Obama they have overwhelmingly been red since Johnson.

you should read an entire post before you start responding. You've yet to make a single post that actually reflects what was written.

Damn_Underscore posted...

Looking at the states in the 60s, 70s, and even the 80s when only Minnesota was never a red state is a terrible metric.

"I don't like your facts so let me move the goalpost, we need to use a narrower set of data so it's more accurate!!" ~ said someone who doesn't like when reality doesn't fit his false perception.

and even using your "only since 2000", they went red everytime but obama and e-gads, florida voted for hillary in that democratic primary. Though in typical DNC fashion, those delegates from florida didn't get to count anyway because florida dared to have their primary before Iowa. THough at least in that case the DNC worked against democracy to ensure we did get the better candidate of Obama. Even if he failed to be that hope and change he campaigned on.

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ModLogic posted...

your pc: "i cannot allow you to play bad games my boy"

why are they letting him play witcher 2 then?

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EnragedSlith posted...

Because there are more people who support Biden over Bernie than the other way around.

there are more people that support Bernie or Warren over Biden. But yay first past the post voting!

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TheApexPredator posted...

why is it Biden going against Trump?

Because Biden did better in red states the DNC isn't going to win, Obama had Biden's candidates drop out before super tuesday, and Bernie and Warren split enough votes for Biden to win due to a broken first past the post voting system.

Yay democracy!

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not it cost $15 for 1 piece of cosmetic armor. Sure am glad good guy Valve brought this out of Asia and to the world!

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sweet barbacoa

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Crono99 posted...

Remember the 2008 bailout?

banks are making about 70 billion in fees on the loans (paid by the gov't). ON top of billions given out in absurdly low interest rates to people who don't need them.

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Ving_Rhames posted...

How do you guys know when someone is warned? Like, when they get warned I assume their post is deleted right? I been on GameFAQs too long to not know these tips n tricks

the creepers do it by following everyone and seeing when the level changes. OP probably did it by posting in the topic and seeing it gone from his amp.

or op is another alt of octi

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i mean, that's exactly what you want to happen in a capitalistic society. Companies competing with each other to get your money. Which either drives down price or drives up quality. You think you wouldn't get better internet pricing if the government didn't protect the regional monopolies of comcast and Verizon, and whichever ones they haven't absorbed yet?

though using Chinese clones to make a point about capitalism isn't going to send the message you think it's sending.

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BudDupree48 posted...

all it does is shitpost about politics. I dont think he does anything else that is remotely interesting

sometimes he shit post about the police being right.

It's octilerry's alt. And the topic he was warned for didn't violate the ToS in anyway shape or form, but the mods get really angry when you criticize them. His mains warning was 100% fair, next.

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CruelBuffalo posted...

Even if you add up Warren and Bernie votes (assuming incorrectly that they would all go to Bernie) its still not enough to beat Bidens support.

friendly reminder

Friendly reminder, Biden recieved less than 50% of votes on super tuesday

reminder biden only recieved 8.3% of votes in New Hampshire and 13.7% in iowa before Obama got the people siphoning off votes from Biden to drop out

reminder the only states biden got a majority in were democratic strong hold states of Alabama, Virginia, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, and Florida

For those counting, that's a bunch of red states and Michigan. Only after Bernie stopped his campaign for Covid did Biden start taking blue states with a majority like Oregon.

reminder warren+bernie got more votes than biden in California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Vermont, North Dakota, and Washington.

now start hammering refresh your twitter feed so you find something to be offended by.

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