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TopicCOVID-19 2nd wave is going to hit America hard by July
TommyG663513
06/15/20 12:41:21 PM
#74
Yeah I don't expect this stuff ending anytime soon

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TopicAbout the newest Atlanta case
TommyG663513
06/14/20 11:50:37 PM
#231
RadiantAdolin posted...
Qualified immunity doesn't stop accountability though. It protects cops and other public servants who were acting properly and things went wrong anyway. I first learned of it in a class on parole and probation, where a former PO talked about how one of his charges was involved in a murder on an approved out of state trip, and qualified immunity protected him from litigation from the victim's families.

Yeah I I referred to qualified immunity as something that provides cops MORE legal protection. I never stated it was absolute.

Do you understand the difference between saying a lack of accountability and a total lack of accountability?

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TopicAbout the newest Atlanta case
TommyG663513
06/14/20 11:28:04 PM
#229
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
They are a protected class, that's what qualified immunity is.

No that isn't the same thing.

Also, qualified immunity is something that has been heavily criticized recently as it gives cops more legal protection. A big concern here is a lack of law enforcement accountability.

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TopicWatching shazam, never seen a DC movie
TommyG663513
06/14/20 11:09:31 PM
#24
Shazam was a great film. I felt some real emotion during a number of scenes. A very touching movie.

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TopicAbout the newest Atlanta case
TommyG663513
06/14/20 8:12:02 PM
#226
AlmightyCheeks posted...
so now we jump lump all cops as one now? thats like saying well this guy is black and resisted arrest so all blacks resist arrest and drive drunk. stop being an idiot

You realize there is a big difference between the two right? Law enforcement agencies have a lot of similarity between each other. They are organizations after all.

Like wtf is up with people treating law enforcement like they're a protected class. Just WTF. They are a profession. Their behavior and lack of accountability are what caused all of this

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TopicAbout the newest Atlanta case
TommyG663513
06/14/20 5:57:03 PM
#219
ThePrinceFish posted...
Atlanta PD should refuse to work until he is reinstated.

LOL

That would be interesting to see

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Topiccop abruptly stops walking in front of protester so the protestor walks into him
TommyG663513
06/14/20 3:21:54 PM
#114
VipaGTS posted...
Why do dumbasses defend escalation? Is yelling in the cops ear annoying? Yes. Here is what an adult would do...

1. move away from that person
2. turn around and talk to them
3. just ignore it and grow the fuck up

here is what you dont do
1. force contact so you and a gang of your friends can jump on him.

But #bluelivesmatter

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TopicAbout the newest Atlanta case
TommyG663513
06/14/20 3:18:56 PM
#184
Well this topic is blowing up.

Has anyone had a response to the Atlanta Mayor's comments on the situation? I believe she referred to the officer's actions as "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" or something to that effect. This was also within the context of her calling for the firing of said officer.

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TopicThis stupid song they added to the beginning of Return of the Jedi
TommyG663513
06/14/20 3:05:03 PM
#5
The Trent posted...
The song in Jabbas palace by the long lipped alien Lady
Yeah not an addition

Just added cgi?

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TopicWhat did Chris Columbus do that was so bad?
TommyG663513
06/14/20 2:59:33 PM
#8
He thought he was sailing to India

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TopicMarried people of CE. How much did your wedding cost?
TommyG663513
06/14/20 10:52:46 AM
#49
I have five older sisters and all of them are married. The cost of their weddings varied a bit, but were all fairly expensive with around 100 guests at a minimum. Watching all of these weddings take place definitely didn't leave a strong impression on me.

I've been with my girlfriend for 1.5 years now. She has stated on numerous occasions that she hates weddings and wouldn't ever want to have a big one. She has been in numerous weddings in the last year and she hates them. Her best friend got married in a courthouse and that was the only wedding my girlfriend liked.

It seems beyond insane to me to spend a lot of money on a wedding. It is just a party. There is no real lasting value in that investment. Marriage is simply not at all about the wedding.


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TopicNudist place today
TommyG663513
06/14/20 8:59:00 AM
#8
FF_Redux posted...
Wtf a woman placed herself just beside me since her frinds are near me, Got 3 naked ladies near me now. This is uncomfortable

Aren't you only into dudes?

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Topiccop abruptly stops walking in front of protester so the protestor walks into him
TommyG663513
06/14/20 8:48:33 AM
#86
Wow what brave officers........


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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/14/20 8:20:13 AM
#269
Houston posted...
"try to arrest him at a later date" --- what does that mean to you and what do you think that would look like? What if he didn't want to be arrested again?

You're talking about a guy who literally punched cops and wrestled with them on the ground, stole a taser off of one of them and then fired it at him.

Can you for one second even IMAGINE yourself doing something like this? This is a very violent person you're talking about and we don't even know if he had a record, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did and that's why he didn't want to be arrested.

You're defending violent criminals.

You're defending a person violent enough to pull out a gun and kill someone running away

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/14/20 1:36:15 AM
#226
Houston posted...
You're operating on unrealistic ideas. You're insinuating that people who resist arrest and violently assault police should be dealt with when they're in a better mood. You're saying someone who just committed felonious assault on officers should just be allowed to go free until police eventually catch up with them. We don't know anything about this person's living situation and whether or not he would have access to other vehicles. Or whether or not he would even be at the address listed on his driver's license.

If police let everyone go who resisted arrest and assaulted them, it would take an even large police force to track them down to attempt to arrest them again. Then what if they don't want to be arrested at that time, either?

Yeah it is really crazy that people are pondering alternatives to giving police the power to kill without consequence. This is clearly the best case scenario and we should be thankful this is as bad as it gets.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/14/20 1:34:21 AM
#225
They fired the cop who shot him and placed the other on administrative leave.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/14/20 12:38:42 AM
#207
ThisGuyAreSick posted...
I don't know but I'm worried for his town. He absolutely should not be carrying a gun with a right to shoot someone.

It really is disturbing. It is an interesting glimpse though. He seems extremely convinced that what he is doing is right.

We used to have another cop who posted on here a lot. His name was OWNgineer I believe. He would post similar stuff and he would get more unhinged when these use of force cases made headlines. I can't recall seeing him in a long time.

It just seems like the mindset of police and how they view their role is just so pervasive. Im not sure how you fix that.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/14/20 12:27:41 AM
#198
UnfairRepresent posted...
Note for anyone seriously arguing with DarkPrince:

He has claimed police are not racist because they shoot roughly 100 more white people than black people a year.

When asked about demographics or unarmed shootings he ran away. Then repeated the same line in another topic. He also refused to condemn Derek Chauvin until about 35 users forced him too after several topics and even then it was half-hearted while ranting about liberals.

He's also frequently flat out lied about the protesters and their actions and even been warned for it.

He's going to take the pro-cop side no matter what it is. If you want to argue with him go ahead but just know that no matter what you say he is not listening or arguing in good faith. He's just an angy man.

This. The guy has been seriously antagonistic on this board the last few weeks. I'm not sure what he thinks he is getting out of this.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:47:00 PM
#139
scorpion41 posted...
Lol so police are supposed to allow perps to attack them without consequences as long as the weapon isnt a 100% lethal projectile. Yeah okay...

Your straw man arguments are pretty extreme. No one has ever said anything close to the position you keep ascribing to them.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:38:52 PM
#108
Ser_Jaker posted...
Listen I get protesting. I think you guys in America are fucked and should be protesting the entire system. Racism is a small part of the system that is fucked in America.

But I just don't see how burning shit down is helping your cause.

Yeah it is more of just a side effect of mass protest. It can be difficult to protest on this level without some violence happening. Just acknowledging the reality.

It is difficult to discern how much the rioters and protestors are intertwined. They sometimes are the same people and sometimes not.

You also have the threat of third party agitators who just wish to destroy stuff under the cover of a crowd.

It is extremely difficult to understand why each individual is reacting how they are. It is just that there is a lot of cover while in a massive group to perform destruction.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:33:13 PM
#93
scorpion41 posted...
Man you guys...dude fired a WEAPON at the cops. Like I said before: I think people will only justify lethal force if the cop literally has a gun to his/her head. People even defended the Dallas sniper after he was killed by police.

Just referring to it as a weapon is very disingenuous. That is intentionally vague wording.

Do you feel that any and all use of weaponry (think about how wide that term weapon can be) against law enforcement should result in the use of lethal force against the suspect?

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:31:17 PM
#88
voldothegr8 posted...
My comment was directed at the guy who responded to you who thinks it was justified

Ah my bad. Misunderstood

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:30:40 PM
#87
ThanksUglyGod posted...
How do you fail a sobriety test yet still manage to steal a cop's taser?

Those cops should be fired at the very least just for being dunked on.

Observations like this don't get pointed out enough.

A lot of these cop killings just come off like incompetence more than anything.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:28:28 PM
#82
legendary_zell posted...
Why were armed agents of the state sent to wake up a guy sleeping in his car at a drive through? That's what led to this situation. Without weapons and the threat of arrest and death, none of this happens. Maybe that's what we should be talking about rather than bemoaning how hard it is to be a cop now that people are just starting to hold them accountable?

Yeah this. The idea of the police being called to a wide variety of issues doesn't seem all that beneficial.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:27:22 PM
#80
voldothegr8 posted...
Then you're part of the problem

What problem? The problem where the police killing black people when alternatives are available results in massive civil unrest?

This is simple. Tasers are less than lethal. They are also single use and this guy is drunk and untrained in using it. He also is shot while running away.

Do you really see no other possible alternative than the cop needing to shoot to kill?

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:18:56 PM
#67
KillerKhan420 posted...
Which is stupid. You can kill someone in a variety of different ways...

Oh ok, let them just run off....it's like it never happened when they leave your view.

No, running away just means lethal force isn't justified. No one said the cop should let him go.

Make a real attempt at a discussion without resorting to straw men.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:16:52 PM
#61
scorpion41 posted...
Im pretty much convinced that people believe the only time a cop is allowed to use lethal force is when a gun is literally pointed at their head.

Just no. You're trying to reframe the argument to suit your own ends and no one has that viewpoint. Basically, a straw man argument.

The argument here is whether using a less than lethal weapon against a cop should justify lethal force.

I find this pretty simple, because combatting use of a less than lethal weapon with a lethal one is pretty clear escalation on the cops side.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:14:38 PM
#57
Middle hope posted...
If you taser a cop and they are down for the count, what's stopping the suspect from then taking the cops gun while they are defenseless? Especially in this case where hes already been shown to be a drunken belligerent who like to steal cops weapons?

I saw that he had attempted to use the taser and it failed. Then the suspect tried to flee.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:10:17 PM
#49
WizardPowers posted...
unless those posters lied then I may be wrong.

Grabbing at a cops waist where they keep their weapons to justification to be shot. Actually taking the taser and trying to shoot then with it is 100% justified

Can't say I agree with you there. Tasers aren't deadly generally, but guns tend to be. You're also missing the part where he was shot in the back.

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:08:54 PM
#45
Houston posted...
There is. I saw it on the news today. I'm sure you could find it online somewhere.

Please share if you have any idea where it is

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:08:21 PM
#43
Makeveli_lives posted...
Again I'm waiting on some body cam footage. If he actually grabbed it and tried to shoot, justified.

You feel shooting a taser at a cop means he is justified in killing you?

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:07:53 PM
#41
Houston posted...
Stacey Abrams being disingenuous. What ended in death was a man that resisted arrest, fought with police on the ground, stole a taser and then tried to shoot them with it.

Clearly you're leaving out a detail or two....

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TopicProtests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:07:13 PM
#36
WizardPowers posted...
So an actual justified shooting?

Jesus that's bad timing

You must have missed the part where they shot him in the back when he was running away.

Even if you missed that part... Do you think stealing a less than lethal weapon should result in lethal force?

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TopicDiaper Force strike again as they fatally shoot an unarmed black man in the back
TommyG663513
06/13/20 6:35:25 PM
#52
Chicken posted...
So if I go up to you and yank your phone out of your hand and run away with it, Im not at fault at all because you were stupid enough to let me steal it?

Just no. This analogy fails on numerous levels.

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TopicCuomo Says New York Has 'Tamed The Beast' Of Coronavirus
TommyG663513
06/13/20 6:32:38 PM
#2
Let's celebrate with a giant gathering in the streets

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TopicDo you think Tucker Carlson should be cancelled?
TommyG663513
06/13/20 6:31:56 PM
#34
Tucker Carlson needs to finally take a poop so he stops looking so constipated

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TopicDiaper Force strike again as they fatally shoot an unarmed black man in the back
TommyG663513
06/13/20 3:38:59 PM
#26
SauI_Goodman posted...
I don't justify what the cops did here but just to clarify something that was said earlier in the topic: sleeping in your car intoxicated in some states is indeed a crime. it's a stupid law, but i'm just stating facts. obviously nobody should get shot for it.

Yeah this and he was asleep in a drive thru lane that he was obviously blocking.

Can't really say he was only sleeping in a parked car when he was in a drive thru lane.

I also agree that it doesn't justify the killing. Cops are still very much at fault for shooting a guy in the back.


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TopicDiaper Force strike again as they fatally shoot an unarmed black man in the back
TommyG663513
06/13/20 3:35:37 PM
#25
They guy was asleep in his car in the middle of a drive thru. That is usually a strong bet that he was drunk.

A few cops should be able to handle a passed out drunk dude without shooting and killing him.

They shot him in the back. People who are real immediate threats tend not to face the opposite direction of their target.

Oh boy I wonder how this will effect the current state of civil unrest. It is almost like the people who are supposed to protect us contribute heavily to this.

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TopicR.I.P. The Playstation Vita
TommyG663513
06/13/20 3:17:40 PM
#52
I still feel very sad that the Vita failed. We need more competition in the handheld market and no I'm not talking about cell phone games. We need a video game dedicated competitor to Nintendo in the handheld market.

I've just always had a soft spot for handhelds as they constituted the vast majority of my early gaming. My first was the Sega Game Gear and then later a Game Boy Color before I ever owned a home console.

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Topic'It's time to kick police unions out of the labour movement. They aren't allies'
TommyG663513
06/13/20 11:27:46 AM
#9
Police unions are the one union liberals don't support and the one union that conservatives do support.

That should tell you an awful lot

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TopicQualified Immunity denied for 5 Officers in Wayne Jones Shooting
TommyG663513
06/13/20 10:11:14 AM
#5
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well he wasn't on the sidewalk at all technically.

But yeah. The police completed esclated it. The guy was a confused Schizophrenic who didn't understand what was going on and so kept trying to run away from the people attacking him. As such the police beat the fuck out of him then murdered him for not complying

Yeah jail those pigs


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TopicQualified Immunity denied for 5 Officers in Wayne Jones Shooting
TommyG663513
06/13/20 10:06:47 AM
#2
All over not quite being on a sidewalk?

Comply or die advocates have been rather quiet lately

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TopicDave Chappelle put up a new comedy special on Youtube for free.
TommyG663513
06/13/20 9:16:01 AM
#71
cjsdowg posted...
It is not a comedy per say. It is a more a Ted talk with a few jokes thrown it. It was very good, and I think for people who legit don't understand what is going on. As for some who get it , it felt nice hearing someone speak about it . If you don't care or just hate the people protesting just cus .. then you will not like it.

This has been a growing trend in comedy and I am very sick of it.

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