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Ok let's mass flavour claim, ulti can give us the other two names.

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5tarscream posted...

Ultis claim sounds super broken yet his j formation is utterly useless. Everyone assumed crescents death was due to protecting Chris. All you added was that Corrik scanned and cleared the main guy championing your cause.
If its not bullshit its almost unfathomably convenient.

He also wants a flavour claim for the remaining two names Corrik's scan got.

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Lolo_Guru posted...

I have a problem with your assertation that there's a ninja, ulti, and it's really simple.

Why would a scum Han roleblock town Mzero in that situation?

Obviously to insure he doesnt track the other members that are not ninjas.

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Obellisk posted...

You should be Modkilled for even bringing this up.

Which means that you are full of shit.

We lynch ulti today boys.

Why should this be a modkill?

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2 minutes and counting

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Even though I confirmed you town? The betrayal!!

All will be explained at 8, I promise.

It's not betrayal until you actually produce something. I am still very much in your corner... for now.

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Probably not. While I have no problem lynching Ulti, I think 5tar is a better lynch today.

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red13n posted...

is it really that difficult to keep track of?

Yes.

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red13n posted...

because i am pretty sure you voted star a couple pages ago and didnt do anything else vote wise. So that unvote/vote didn't actually do anything.

It's just easier than keeping track of who my vote was on.

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red13n posted...

IGCD are you ok?

Yea, why?

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##Unvote
##Vote: 5tar

this seems like the best course of action we have at the moment.


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Obellisk posted...

Then again we'll never get to a final three with these numbers....

No lynch anyone?

We can hope that red blocks a kill.

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Fastbreak posted...

Uhh

Sure if that's what you wanted but no one wants to lynch him

I'm saying I want to lynch him either, I was just saying that based on what you guys are trying to get across to me is if we were to try and lynch both Mzero would be the logical first choice. Would it not?

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Obellisk posted...

Igcd, if it's a final three between me mzero and you... I would probs lynch mzero over you.

That's fair, I feel the same way.

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Fastbreak posted...

No that's not the correlation

Its that if red is being truthful he is town

If you think red is scum then he is lieing about having a roleblock so mzero is lieing with him so they would be scum together

Town red doesnt make town mzero, but scum red does make scum mzero

Ok, that makes sense. So we should lynch Mzero before we lynch red. If that were the path we took.

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red13n posted...

Imaging I quoted somewhere between posts 150 and 200. Then I posted it here. And then you read it.

Or better yet, imagine you're talking to an idiot and break it down so that idiot can understand.

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Obellisk posted...

Wait might have been topic 3
Han post 28, don't hammer till Ulti can show up
Han 127, defends Ultis absence.
Puns 130 speaks for Ulti

(topic 1 and 2 Ulti barely appeared)

Those are both players I would expect to want Ulti dead for not proving he is town.

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red13n posted...

We literally just did this.

So break it down even further for me. I wasn't sold on it earlier, obviously, help me understand.

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red13n posted...

IGCD we literally went over the fact that I am town unless you also think Mzero is scum with me. How the hell did that go over your head.

Break it down for me. Why do you have to be town if Mzero is?

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Obellisk posted...

Something to note, in the first two topics Han and Puns both stuck their necks out for Ulti.

Can you grab the posts? Or at least their numbers?

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UltimaterializerX posted...

You, me, MZero, Stu, and Red are off the table.

Add Sultan and you have a deal.

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Obellisk posted...

Why are Ulti, Tange and Myself off the table?

Why are you playing with the idea there is a ninja?

Because the people I listed are my strongest scum reads so far.

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Fastbreak posted...

Red should resolve himself take him out of that

This is a rough draft subject to change as days move forward.

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So we need 2 lynches and we have 10 players.
So 8 town. 2 scum.
-2 town.
6 town. 2 scum.
-2 town.
4 town. 2 scum.
-2 town.
Scum wins.
So we basically have 2 mislynches.
Sultan, Mzero and me off the table.
That leaves Ulti, red, Scare, lolo, Sbell, 5tar, Tange.
Of those 7 Scare, 5tar, Lolo, Red.

Is the way I would go as of this moment. This assumes that Mzero is actually tracker and if Scum has a ninja I assume they wait until their ninja has been scanned and then hope for a mislynch because Mzero hasn't produced results.

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Obellisk posted...

Yes, but I think def. 5 in 17.

For some reason I thought we had 15 players at the start. 5 is definitely it then.

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And we got 3 scum dead in a 4 possible 5 player scum team?

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Who all is alive that was "blocked" by Red?

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Leafeon13N posted...

I never want deep conspiracy mode, I just want a simple elaboration.

I dont have elaboration, because I dont know anything other than the fact that I am vanilla. From what I see so far is that Mzero is very likely town being kept around to clear the ninja. You on the other hand could still be scum because I don't remember you claiming. If you have fully claimed already you shouldn't have any reason not to share what it was.

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What I see happening here is red is trying to get me to go into my deep conspiracy theory mode which always ends up with me being lynched because people always misconstrue what I say and ignore me when they do it

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Leafeon13N posted...

Elaborate on how each of us is faking and could be scum.

Are you intentionally asking me questions you know I would have a hard time answering based on my history of playing or what?

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Leafeon13N posted...

I want you to post your thoughts on how a scum is in the claimed powers. Quickly, if you could.

They are faking their claim.

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##Vote: 5tar

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Blue_Inigo posted...

Only 5? Goddamn, losing weight is tough

Considering there is strength training involved, it is pretty good because he is building muscle while cutting fat.

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@red13n
@Leafeon13N

Claim and give results please.

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Obellisk posted...

I'd like to at least hold off till a) red has divulged what he has for us (as he's already a claimed power) & b) Ulti full claims first.

I do not trust Ulti (I dunno how you can) and I do not want him having any additional information prior to locking him in.

Ok, I can get behind waiting on red for the rest of the game to claim. But as for Ulti, let him claim last, I have already pointed out the reasons he would have for claiming last and the one where he is scum waiting for a safe role to claim after everyone isnt going to do him any favors.

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Obellisk posted...

Yeah with current knowledge, pending other claims. Scum claiming some type of power that was blocked would be suicide at this point, so unless some member of town would like to refute a claim in some way with 100% damning evidence by all means please do.

Which is why I think a mass claim is nothing but beneficial. We force scum to lock into claims and figure out what is what from there.

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You said the claimed blocks check out

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Obellisk posted...

And with no other claimed blocks (I am not asking anyone to claim here), that all checks out.

I see no reason to distrust the actions set forth.

Red, I would like clarification on your Night 2 action, and Night 3 would be nice as well (eventually)

Ok? If scum was blocked I doubt they are going to share that they were at this point in time anyway. There is a good chance that we have one scum in the claimed powers and one scum that will claim vanilla.

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MZero11 posted...

That may be true but do you really think I just bussed backup RBer Han for two game days?

Also how has red been anti-town?

First, I'd like your reasons for not massing. I shared my reasons to mass. I wouldn't put it past you. We are sitting in a situation where vanillas are being killed instead of powers. Maybe it is because all the power left is actually scum. That is why I think it is important to figure out what everyone is so we can hammer out the details. Odds are if you are tracker they have a ninja which means they would be keeping you alive just to pseudo clear their ninja. You have no reason to not want to see where everyone else stands.

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My hard disagree was towards Red being "very" town this game.

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MZero11 posted...

I mean, if we keep getting dead vanillas I don't really see the harm in keeping the role confusion alive and well. If there's useful information, claim it. If not, there's no benefit to me or red or anyone else claiming. And I have given thought to what red could be, but I am concerned that he's still alive. He's been very town this game though

Hard disagree, and you have a significant bias towards that confusion because you have claimed a power, that has yet to provide anything that can be substantiated at this moment in time.

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DoubleTangicide posted...

Also, come back to summersim, we miss you <3

What else is there for me to do other than shit talk people my team is up against?

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DoubleTangicide posted...

@IfGodCouldDie how is sultan confirmed town? Did I miss something?

His play dictates it.

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5tarscream posted...

IGCD Id love to see you actually do something yourself. A question, a read, a defense of somebody not based on somebody elses work.

That won't happen.

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MZero11 posted...

I mean, the whole thing started because I questioned you for saying we should mass today, so I did ask first. Also I could same the thing to you for refusing to answer my question

I stand corrected. The mass claim can help figure out the stupidity of all the vague claims we have gotten from half the game already. You haven't expressed any interest in figuring out what Red did to you night 1, despite him saying he is the reason you were roleblocked. Sbell has had a claim that he is not vanilla. Ulti has his claim which is "game breaking." There is a lot of confusion regarding claims and actions right now and a vanilla was killed with all this power on the board you'd think scum would have concerns about leaving so much power alive. With a mass claim we can sort that out and narrow down who makes sense and who doesnt.

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Obellisk posted...

... I guess he went home.

Went back to work.

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Obellisk posted...

IGCD what has Ulti actually done this game that makes you think he's town, other than mortally confirming you as town? (mind you I'm not challenging your alignment at this moment in time).

All I've seen him do is give the game a reason why he's still alive, hold town hostage with his "information" and beat his chest at "the scum team".

Sounds like typical Ulti scum if you ask me.

NAI. My read on Ulti is based on Chris' read of Ulti. Considering I laid out my thoughts of Ulti, maybe you should read them. In fact you overruled my thoughts on Ulti, just a few posts ago. Maybe read them before over ruling my points.

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ctesjbuvf posted...

I'll try this out sometime this week probably, no rush. I mean, I'm excited for this game more than anything ever, but I basically never care to play demos.

This will be the first demo I ever download to be honest.

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Obellisk posted...

You're overuled!

Ulti has given the game No information that wasn't already known or isn't confirmable. And at this point there is no ruse. Scum is informed minority, if in the slim chance he is town they don't care. But that doesn't matter because he's scum.

Why is Ulti scum at the moment? Chris seemed pretty sure he was town and Chris was on fire. Now I know Chris said he didn't want us using g his reads after he died, but that doesn't mean we should just outright ignore them either in my opinion.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I totally believe that there are enough reasons to mass claim, give me the reasons not to, and see if you can change my mind.

MZero11 posted...

State those reasons

Clearly I asked you first. I'm not sure why you are trying to start being difficult off the get go. That isnt going to help anyone other than scum. If you allow yourself to needlessly get involved in an argument with me instead of just giving me your reasons the waters are going to be muddied and it will make a mislynch of one or both of us easier.

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